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How to rank EMD's ?

by G0nzalez Banned
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I have an EMD site that is new, with a few unique articles on it, how to rank it for my specific keyword that is in the low competition.
Will building backlinks work for it? or Google defenetly banned EMDs?

I will add unique content to it every single day and share it on social networks and so on. But it's ok to have a EMD nowadays?
#emd #rank
  • Profile picture of the author alistair
    I've got a couple of emd sites that rank 1 and 2 on Google for the keyword, both low competition 5-600 monthly views and both have about 8 or 9 posts on which is unique content plus the usual pages including a disclaimer, and both about 1 year old. Both use the same theme and both have the same structure, as in the layout of my posts. All I've ever done in way of backlinking is bookmarked my posts with Onlywire submitter when I publish them.

    One disappeared for a a few weeks a couple of months back after consistently ranking in position 4 & 5 but has been back in top spot the last few weeks, don't ask me why. I know somebody wanted to buy it but I wasn't selling so whether that had anything to do with it I don't know.
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  • Profile picture of the author jxam69
    Google cracked down on low quality EMDs, but it seems many on this forum missed the 'low quality' part, or they simply don't realize why Google considers their EMDs to be low quality - which in turn leads to this myth about EMDs not being any good any more.

    I'm not an EMD expert, but I can tell you I have one ranking at #2 for a moderately competitive term with no more than a few niche specific free directory listings, and a few Facebook and Twitter posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author abdul786
    Google has not banned EMDs. They have just taken away the unnecessary ranking advantage that used to be given to EMDs in past.

    Just build the right backlinks and social signals and you'll see your website within top positions.
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    • Profile picture of the author Demetrius
      Originally Posted by abdul786 View Post

      Google has not banned EMDs. They have just taken away the unnecessary ranking advantage that used to be given to EMDs in past.

      Just build the right backlinks and social signals and you'll see your website within top positions.
      You are absolutely right. I can see a lot of EMD sites ranking well in search results. A lot of people think EMD is banned. These kind of hypes spreads very fast and misguide the people.
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  • Profile picture of the author TuNguyen
    Originally Posted by G0nzalez View Post

    I have an EMD site that is new, with a few unique articles on it, how to rank it for my specific keyword that is in the low competition.
    Will building backlinks work for it? or Google defenetly banned EMDs?

    I will add unique content to it every single day and share it on social networks and so on. But it's ok to have a EMD nowadays?
    Google hasn't banned EMDs, they have just lost their little EMD bonus (allegedly).

    You can rank EMDs the same way you rank any other websites.
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  • Profile picture of the author innozemec
    yeah, EMDs are not that valuable as before, but brand new registered domains still do great job..

    you can rank it, as you rank any other page - backlinks
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      They never lost their bonus because they never had a bonus
      to begin with. Parlor tricks by domain resellers made it seem so.
      The rest of the real world was not buying, nor caring. When
      real people figured this out, they then fell on the "EMD is must be crap"
      bandwagon, even going as far as claiming google said it.

      I mean, it can't be because their EMD reality just wasn't there, right?
      They had to blame someone.

      Nobody with any brains ever put their faith in some EMD snake oil
      salesman.

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author abdul786
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        They never lost their bonus because they never had a bonus
        to begin with. Parlor tricks by domain resellers made it seem so.
        The rest of the real world was not buying, nor caring. When
        real people figured this out, they then fell on the "EMD is must be crap"
        bandwagon, even going as far as claiming google said it.

        I mean, it can't be because their EMD reality just wasn't there, right?
        They had to blame someone.

        Nobody with any brains ever put their faith in some EMD snake oil
        salesman.

        Paul
        Disagreed.

        EMDs use to appear in top results (on page 1) with little to no backlinking in past with just an unchanged paragraph of text for months even.

        I'm talking about ranking EMD for the exact domain keyword in Google, not just any keywords.
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        • Profile picture of the author paulgl
          Originally Posted by abdul786 View Post

          Disagreed.

          EMDs use to appear in top results (on page 1) with little to no backlinking in past with just an unchanged paragraph of text for months even.

          I'm talking about ranking EMD for the exact domain keyword in Google, not just any keywords.
          No. I disagree. No real world searches for real world items by any real world
          searcher was EVER, except in rare, rare, cases, ever just tossed up because
          of the domain. And I have been saying this to everyone who posted their
          parlor trick. (Look it up.)

          In fact, the more people I called out, the more mad they got. Pity the
          fools that swallowed this koolaid.

          Real people don't search for useless terms that virtually all people touting
          EMDs had.

          I've said it time and time again. Ebay, craigslist, zillow, kayak, amazon, wikipedia,
          go.com, about.com, yahoo answers, okcupid, zap2it, fandango, and on and on,
          NEVER cared one iota about an EMD. Why? Because they were stupid?

          People in the real world do not search for
          best-wii-games-for-kids-with-dogs-in-yellow-houses.com.

          Of course my kicker at the end of all replies was this:
          They post this stuff on a forum called warriorforum.com,
          then tout the magic of EMDs? Give me a break. The 2 biggest
          IM forums, digitalpoint and WF, NEVER gave a rat's behind about
          an EMD.

          So why on earth would any fool ever drink that kool aid? I dunno.

          Paul
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          • Profile picture of the author abdul786
            Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

            No. I disagree. No real world searches for real world items by any real world
            searcher was EVER, except in rare, rare, cases, ever just tossed up because
            of the domain. And I have been saying this to everyone who posted their
            parlor trick. (Look it up.)

            In fact, the more people I called out, the more mad they got. Pity the
            fools that swallowed this koolaid.

            Real people don't search for useless terms that virtually all people touting
            EMDs had.

            I've said it time and time again. Ebay, craigslist, zillow, kayak, amazon, wikipedia,
            go.com, about.com, yahoo answers, okcupid, zap2it, fandango, and on and on,
            NEVER cared one iota about an EMD. Why? Because they were stupid?

            People in the real world do not search for
            best-wii-games-for-kids-with-dogs-in-yellow-houses.com.

            Of course my kicker at the end of all replies was this:
            They post this stuff on a forum called warriorforum.com,
            then tout the magic of EMDs? Give me a break. The 2 biggest
            IM forums, digitalpoint and WF, NEVER gave a rat's behind about
            an EMD.

            So why on earth would any fool ever drink that kool aid? I dunno.

            Paul
            Disagreed.

            If i have the domain internetmarketing.com , i can rank it more faster and better and with less amount of backlinks than abcdeforum.com for the keyword "internet marketing". It's that simple!

            You are talking about brands. If i had million billion dollars in my pocket, would i be stupid/desperate to make money by buying EMDs? I will go for the brand name and establish it. These are two totally different things which are good until not mixed up.

            Abdul

            EDIT: DigitalPoint & WarriorForum - Please keep them aside. We are only talking about whether Exact keyword matching domains can be ranked easily or not. You can rank any domain in the world whether EMD or not but the little bit advantage was there, still there and will remain there for EMDs probably.
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          • Profile picture of the author heavysm
            Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

            Real people don't search for useless terms that virtually all people touting EMDs had.
            The very nature of EMD's made it so your site is largely just around the topic of the domain. How is that in anyway useless if people are staying on the blog and finding value? It seems you have a very warped view of EMD's sir.
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  • Profile picture of the author LloydMS
    The only thing I'd do differently with an EMD is be a bit more careful about on page optimization and not overdoing the usage of your keyword. Since your keyword is already in the domain, I'd be even more careful than usual about keyword over optimization.
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    • Profile picture of the author Maecenas23
      EMDs will continue to be a powerful tool if you test a lot and see which is the best way to push them up. Don't overoptimized your page and keep your anchor text at under 30% but with the most powerful links. Diversify the anchor text by using some cheap ( but not idio ) services like the ones from Fiverr.
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  • Profile picture of the author eekje87
    i own 2 new emd sites both ranking #1, created the 1st week of Januari 2013.
    1 has a keyword with 44k monthly local hits, the other just 9k.
    But the key is to get a mix of different backlinks and social signals. Also you need a quality emd lik the others here say, example: trololol.com instead of tro-lo-lol.com or 1trololol.com

    goodluck
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    EDM where never banned but rather devalued.

    From the way it is today, both EMD and non EDM ranks alike,
    that is just what Google did.

    A simple search on Google will still reveal lots of EMD ranking so well.
    They retained their position because the owners did not just use the ranking power
    EMD use to have but rather did a good SEO on the site as well.

    It's just as simple as this:

    For example, if in the past you need 100 links to be on page 1 of Google
    with an EDM site for the word "click", you will require about 300 of those
    same links to be on page 1 of Google for non EDM.

    But today, you need 300 links to rank EDM and non EMD on page 1,
    no partiality anymore. A domain is a domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author jfambrini
    Even though it is said that only low-quality EMD were hit but in my experience my EMD sites keep ranking very high on secondary keywords but tanked ONLY on exact match keyword. I used to be between number 1 and 5 on all short tail and long tail keywords related to my EMD keyword but am now on page 2 and above since the update despite linking, under-optimizing of keywords and diversifying incoming anchor text.
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