Magic Submitter VS SenukeX CR Lifetime

13 years ago

In the current scheme of things, NONE. Both softwares are great and IF USED IN THE RIGHT WAY can surely help in your rankings but the truth is people think and use it as if they will get instant results without any work being done.

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I heard that magic submitter is cheaper and build backlinks more naturally and make a diverse sources of backlinks in blog,video,rss..more.

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kaytav

13 years ago

No softwares... Submission through softwares can cause you problems and will lower your rankings.

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But software can do things faster and easier than manually. Manually wastes a lot of time.

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uzojvp

13 years ago

I wanna know if this happend to me alone. Paid for the trial of Magic submitter but what I notice is that some of the web2.0 and article directory, forum, press release and some other, its not all that get created if you try creating all the accounts. For instance if you using trial version which only allows you to create only maximum of 10 profile on each of the networks. Its not all the 10 that gets created most times its like 5 that gets created except for bookmarking that have an 100 % account creation but every other I tried have like 50-60% account creation success rate. And again even when you have an 60% account creation rate, when you finally send the article its get like 40% success rate.. This is my personal experience using MS, I don't know about senuke bcos have not used uit before...

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SEMaster

13 years ago

Both software does great job, but Magic Submitter is half of the price as compare to senuke. So there is no point of paying double for the same thing.

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MikeFriedman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by kaytav

No softwares... Submission through softwares can cause you problems and will lower your rankings.

That is complete nonsense. It's not the software that is the problem. It is what you tell the software to do.

To the OP, wouldn't pay for a lifetime license for either one. Lifetime does not mean forever. Lifetime means for the life of the product. In this industry, things tend to have a fairly short lifetime. These products have already been out for a few years. Chances are that some new product will overtake them before too long or the developers will scrap these and create something better.

Also, with MS, you can signup on Clickbank and buy the product through your own affiliate link. Then you get it for half the monthly fee which comes out to like $30/month.

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SEMaster

13 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

That is complete nonsense. It's not the software that is the problem. It is what you tell the software to do.

To the OP, wouldn't pay for a lifetime license for either one. Lifetime does not mean forever. Lifetime means for the life of the product. In this industry, things tend to have a fairly short lifetime. These products have already been out for a few years. Chances are that some new product will overtake them before too long or the developers will scrap these and create something better.

Also, with MS, you can signup on Clickbank and buy the product through your own affiliate link. Then you get it for half the monthly fee which comes out to like $30/month.

100% agree with blue texts.

But you cant receive your affiliate commission from cb until you got 5 orders from different credit cards.

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MikeFriedman 13 years ago

Originally Posted by SEMaster

100% agree with blue texts.

But you cant receive your affiliate commission from cb until you got 5 orders from different credit cards.

Okay, I have several products I sell on ClickBank, so I forgot about that. You are right. You cannot be a new member of ClickBank and get the commission. However, if you are already a seller...
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kaytav

13 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

That is complete nonsense. It's not the software that is the problem. It is what you tell the software to do.

To the OP, wouldn't pay for a lifetime license for either one. Lifetime does not mean forever. Lifetime means for the life of the product. In this industry, things tend to have a fairly short lifetime. These products have already been out for a few years. Chances are that some new product will overtake them before too long or the developers will scrap these and create something better.

Also, with MS, you can signup on Clickbank and buy the product through your own affiliate link. Then you get it for half the monthly fee which comes out to like $30/month.

What I meant was, Most sites in the softwares are low quality sites. If you wanna use softwares, it is important to choose the proper sites.

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magicsubmittertutorials

13 years ago

There are some valid points in this thread.

Its what you do with the software that matters.

Regarding low quality sites, you can choose not to submit to those or use them for 2nd and 3rd tier link building.

Anyone that says link building software's are dead might as well say manual link building is dead too. (which is simply not the case).

I use magic submitter simply to automate what would otherwise take months to accomplish.

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MikeFriedman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward

Hi,

I wouldn't buy Magic Submitter because it is difficult/clunky to use

I wouldn't buy SENukeXCR because of the high cost (I have it since version 4 back in the day)

But I would buy Ultimate Demon which is considerably cheaper, and easier/quicker to setup campaigns IMO.

Yeah, there is also UD, and I agree with that. I like it better.

Originally Posted by magicsubmittertutorials

There are some valid points in this thread.

Its what you do with the software that matters.

Regarding low quality sites, you can choose not to submit to those or use them for 2nd and 3rd tier link building.

You cannot choose not to submit to them. They are all low quality.

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magicsubmittertutorials 13 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

You cannot choose not to submit to them. They are all low quality.

So tumblr, wordpress, livejournal, wetpaint etc are all low quality???

Strange views those mate
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- MikeFriedman 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by magicsubmittertutorials
  
  So tumblr, wordpress, livejournal, wetpaint etc are all low quality???
  
  Strange views those mate
  
  I certainly wouldnt consider them high quality links on their own. Nothing bit PR n/a and PR 0 links.
  
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  Originally Posted by MikeFriedman
  
  I certainly wouldnt consider them high quality links on their own. Nothing bit PR n/a and PR 0 links.
  
  I saw many wordpress, tumblr, wetpaint sites with high pr. For the start yes they are low quality. But what if you give them strength with tier backlinking and then use them in your MS? Then still they count as low quality (as you said above)? No i don't think so.
  
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Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

That is complete nonsense. It's not the software that is the problem. It is what you tell the software to do.

To the OP, wouldn't pay for a lifetime license for either one. Lifetime does not mean forever. Lifetime means for the life of the product. In this industry, things tend to have a fairly short lifetime. These products have already been out for a few years. Chances are that some new product will overtake them before too long or the developers will scrap these and create something better.

Also, with MS, you can signup on Clickbank and buy the product through your own affiliate link. Then you get it for half the monthly fee which comes out to like $30/month.

Agree. Buying the life of the product but magic submitter and senukex is too famous to be drop out from the SEO market. Both software has an history of years to build backlinks automatically

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MikeFriedman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by CTRTheme

Agree. Buying the life of the product but magic submitter and senukex is too famous to be drop out from the SEO market. Both software has an history of years to build backlinks automatically

Yes they both have been around for a few years, which is exactly my point. Something better will be out soon I am sure.

In fact, I would say that GSA SER is already better than both of them.

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Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

Yes they both have been around for a few years, which is exactly my point. Something better will be out soon I am sure.

In fact, I would say that GSA SER is already better than both of them.

Nope Magic submitter + GSA SER = offpage SEO

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Mike Anthony 13 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

Yes they both have been around for a few years, which is exactly my point. Something better will be out soon I am sure.

Already is happening. I know you gave up on MS a few months back but I must report as of last month - so did I. Cancelled it.

I now see no reason to pay monthly fees for that kind of software. I really thought MS would at least try and keep up but the only main thing they have added in the last 6 months is inclusion of two third party programs that I can only guess there is some financial bonus for including. Alex has all but refused to integrate with any other rewriting software than his own (which is waaaaay behind) or any content creation kit outside of one spinabble service I would not touch.

Their recording functions now SUCK compared to other programs who have caught and passed them by. Licorne still in relative beta has already caught them up and would surpass them if they include recording javascript sites.

Seems to me the one time purchase developers (those that at least have that option) are doing a better job of keeping up. Theres an incentive to create sales where its much easier to sit back and coast on subscription dollars.

GSA I was high on but I dunno right now it just seems like nothing but a spam machine. I never got it to do what I needed.

SO I would go with UD or licorne (when it actually releases although in beta it might be a steal) for web 2.0 (ocassional bookmarks if you must) and for recording my own sites I go with winautomation and/or Zennoposter (which if their customer support and developer attitudes didn't positively suck I would recommend wholeheartedly - someone has even developed an web 2.0 addon for a one time fee that I might check out to save time recording )

These kinds of links are no longer deserving of monthly fees and SenukeXCR - even lifetime? horrible way to spend your money. you could have a good small network for that
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MatthewWoodward

13 years ago

Hi,

I wouldn't buy Magic Submitter because it is difficult/clunky to use

I wouldn't buy SENukeXCR because of the high cost (I have it since version 4 back in the day)

But I would buy Ultimate Demon which is considerably cheaper, and easier/quicker to setup campaigns IMO.

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Ernies

13 years ago

I haven't tried SENukeXCR, but I was slightly disappointed in Magic Submitter because of the number and variety of backlinks I got. You really have to spend time learning the program.

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cypherslock

13 years ago

Don't forget you can program your own list of sites into MS as well as have niche specific sites found for you. MS is very powerful and yeah takes time to learn...but so what? you're in a marathon not a race.

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Lanx

13 years ago

UD sorta lifetime license is like 300? i used all 3, eh true i didn't spend massive amounts of time with all 3 like 2/3 months each and those were the beginner days, i'm throwing my pony in with licorne.
i really can't give you a good review on the 3 again i used them so/so for 3months each like 1/2 years ago, just pointing out that ud does have a sorta lifetime license as well.

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DBMEDIALLC

13 years ago

I like UD, but SENuke seems to be more reliable and faster at the registrations + submissions. It's a lot more money, but you can always try out that BHSVPS service, I've heard good things. As far as Magic Submitter, I've never tried it but I've heard that it's a bit clunky.

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Super Money Maker

13 years ago

I prefer Senuke it has a lot of features that other tools don't have.

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MikeFriedman 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Super Money Maker

I prefer Senuke it has a lot of features that other tools don't have.

Like what?
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Originally Posted by Super Money Maker

I prefer Senuke it has a lot of features that other tools don't have.

I have tried using magic submitter + GSA SER never fail to make #1 ranking in google currently.
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cypherslock 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Super Money Maker

I prefer Senuke it has a lot of features that other tools don't have.

Oh, you mean like double the price? MS has WAY more flexibility than SEN (I've used both). It is not a value proposition in my eyes. Used GSA too, might have to pick that up. Reality is they're all just tools. It is in your strategy that you find success. These tools just make implementation quicker.
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magic submitter + GSA SER

The best combination ever, I have used these 2 softwares together and totally owned no. 1 in google.

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smodha 13 years ago

Originally Posted by CTRTheme

magic submitter + GSA SER

The best combination ever, I have used these 2 softwares together and totally owned no. 1 in google.

If this is true then why do you care about MS vs SENukeXCR?
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- MatthewWoodward 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by smodha
  
  If this is true then why do you care about MS vs SENukeXCR?
  
  And why are they buying another tool if they already have a #1 formula? ^^
  
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- CTRTheme Banned 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by smodha
  
  If this is true then why do you care about MS vs SENukeXCR?
  
  How about GSA SER vs magic submitter? which one is better?
  
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  smodha 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by CTRTheme
  
  How about GSA SER vs magic submitter? which one is better?
  
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patco

13 years ago

They are nowadays a waste of time... The work should be done manually for perfect results. Ranking a website is easy if you know what to do, but working with Softwares is useless because about 75% of webmasters use those softwares and also create such backlinks from the same websites... Do you think a backlink that you get from a page with 50,000 OBL for example (or websites that point back to a LARGE number of websites) is useful? No! Just do it in the right way -> Manually!

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WraithSarko

13 years ago

Originally Posted by patco

They are nowadays a waste of time... The work should be done manually for perfect results. Ranking a website is easy if you know what to do, but working with Softwares is useless because about 75% of webmasters use those softwares and also create such backlinks from the same websites... Do you think a backlink that you get from a page with 50,000 OBL for example (or websites that point back to a LARGE number of websites) is useful? No! Just do it in the right way -> Manually!

50,000 obl? you have never used SeNuke or Magic Submitter have you? tell the truth.

Have you manually ranked for any of the terms in your sig?

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Manual backlinks seriously wasting time -.- like you are posting and posting links again.

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cypherslock

13 years ago

Right, Patco... creating automatic backlinks are a waste of time...that's why Kelly Felix and Mike Long and others have made bank with it. And if you take the time to get your own site list, then what and where you post is unique. The key is in your knowledge and how you plan your attack. Simply spamming will get you nowhere.

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Hey guys I need more review on both senukex and magic submitter as I'm buying one of them.

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MikeFriedman 13 years ago

Originally Posted by CTRTheme

magic submitter + GSA SER

The best combination ever, I have used these 2 softwares together and totally owned no. 1 in google.

Originally Posted by CTRTheme

Hey guys I need more review on both senukex and magic submitter as I'm buying one of them.

You already said you like Magic Submitter + GSA. So why would you need more reviews on both?

Also there are already tons of reviews on the forum for both and elsewhere on the internet.
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- yukon Banned 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MikeFriedman
  
  You already said you like Magic Submitter + GSA. So why would you need more reviews on both?
  
  Almost every post s/he made contradicts itself as the threads get longer...
  
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gearmonkey

13 years ago

I haven't used SEnuke, but I can vouch Magic Submitter. I use it everyday and the learning curve was easy. I like it!

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FakeItTilYouMakeIt

Banned 13 years ago

I hope SOMEBODY is reading this. Not saying any names. I am too much of a control freak to allow for auto creation. As for auto submission... meh if I'm already creating/having someone else create whatever I'm going to post then they can go ahead and post it too. Basically why would I waste my time trying to get a link from a site that is so unimportant to my big picture that I would consider automizing my submission. probably a crap link jmo maybe, maybe for directories... dunno

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Mike Anthony

13 years ago

Originally Posted by FakeItTilYouMakeIt

Basically why would I waste my time trying to get a link from a site that is so unimportant to my big picture that I would consider automizing my submission. probably a crap link jmo maybe, maybe for directories... dunno

Actually they come in VERY handy if you are working with your own network and can record your own sites. So in some setups you can work them with to place non crappy links. the ones they come with - yes pretty much crap links. So if they cannot record as well then they are not generally worth the fees

Truce?

Your recommendation of talking SEO was sound enough

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Truce

And so you know, I found your post above very helpful. I hadn't thought about the possibility of the software being able to record the links, that would be something useful in my case. Gave me something to think about, so thanks!

Edit: Going back over it. Means it's teachable right?

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Mike Anthony

13 years ago

Originally Posted by FakeItTilYouMakeIt

Truce

And so you know, I found your post above very helpful. I hadn't thought about the possibility of the software being able to record the links, that would be something useful in my case. Gave me something to think about, so thanks!

It pains me to say this but should you need a simple but cheap solution you might try the single threaded version of Zennoposter. It pains me because it is pretty widely known that the developer is even more of a prick than you think I am....ROFL.

However at $89 you could do worse for recording your own sites. Its a lot easier to learn than it used to be primarily because of this guy

DexLab SEO - YouTube

who goes into alot of details but the recording is fairly simple.

Originally Posted by FakeItTilYouMakeIt

Edit: Going back over it. Means it's teachable right?

No comprende.

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Lanx

13 years ago

gsa and magic submitter serve 2 different purposes, it's better if instead both worked together. in terms of value i'd put gsa way ahead of all of them.

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Originally Posted by Lanx

gsa and magic submitter serve 2 different purposes, it's better if instead both worked together. in terms of value i'd put gsa way ahead of all of them.

Should I use both GSA SER and Magic submitter together will it affect my ranking?
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cypherslock

13 years ago

Wait. Above you said: "magic submitter + GSA SER

The best combination ever, I have used these 2 softwares together and totally owned no. 1 in google."

So, you've already used them. I'm confused by your question. If you've used them already then you should know the answer...

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Originally Posted by cypherslock

Wait. Above you said: "magic submitter + GSA SER

The best combination ever, I have used these 2 softwares together and totally owned no. 1 in google."

So, you've already used them. I'm confused by your question. If you've used them already then you should know the answer...

I want to get other IM views and results

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nest28

13 years ago

Why would anyone pay a lifetime fee for software this is obsolete.

Obsolete-No longer produced or used; out of date. That just about some up the type links these push button systems produce.

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cypherslock

13 years ago

I can tell you that just using Magic Submitter and my own written content has gotten client sites ranked as well as my own and they stick (my one software site has remained #1 for 5 months, beating the main site and the WSO thread, a client site I took from nowhere to #1 is still #4 and 5 on the first page for their terms, and I've not touched them for months as I don't work for free). Ultimately, if you see results using the software and have your own twist, that's really all that matters. If it works for you, keep using it

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Originally Posted by cypherslock

I can tell you that just using Magic Submitter and my own written content has gotten client sites ranked as well as my own and they stick (my one software site has remained #1 for 5 months, beating the main site and the WSO thread, a client site I took from nowhere to #1 is still #4 and 5 on the first page for their terms, and I've not touched them for months as I don't work for free). Ultimately, if you see results using the software and have your own twist, that's really all that matters. If it works for you, keep using it

May I know how you use magic submitter?

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Lanx

13 years ago

i got tired of bs software that charges monthly like senuke/ud/ms.
i licorne/gsa/article kevo

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Originally Posted by Lanx

i got tired of bs software that charges monthly like senuke/ud/ms.
i licorne/gsa/article kevo

O.0 all 3 software got lifetime fees you do not need to pay monthly fees.
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Lanx

13 years ago

licorne becomes monthly when they get out of beta and include the campaigner, hopefully it's soon so i can have fun playing around with it, currently kevo is more powerful than licorne.

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Originally Posted by Lanx

licorne becomes monthly when they get out of beta and include the campaigner, hopefully it's soon so i can have fun playing around with it, currently kevo is more powerful than licorne.

There are lifetime license for magic submitter, UD and senukex

Magic submitter: 1250 usd
UD: 300+ usd
Senukex: 1200~1900 usd
Article kevo ? cheap
Licorne? Never use b4.

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shifat

13 years ago

Well if someone want me to chose between this two then it will be a hard one to pick.If it comes to speed then i would choose senuke xcr with both of eyes closed

but for quality link building i will always pick MS over Senuke xcr.

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nightrider85

13 years ago

Originally Posted by shifat

Well if someone want me to chose between this two then it will be a hard one to pick.If it comes to speed then i would choose senuke xcr with both of eyes closed

but for quality link building i will always pick MS over Senuke xcr.

Yes, if compare the price and what both of them could do, I would prefer Magic Submitter as well....

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jeremyhenderson

13 years ago

Does anyone know if there are warriors for hire to set up a campaign for me in Magic Submitter? I have existing tier 1 sites like blogger.com, tumblr, wordpress.com and my own self hosted wordpress sites. I will be writing original content and then spinning it and posting to those sites with links back to my money site. Any ideas?

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RossIT

13 years ago

im looking to invest in a software as im getting a few clients that want me to do their SEO for them, but i need something that can do all the submitting to web2.0's 20+ for me as doing this for my own 2 websites is time consuming enough let alone doing it for others too!

I am writing my own unique content not spinning it in anyway, i just need software that can submit it to them all quickly and then help with 2nd + 3rd tier linking any suggestions?

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nightrider85

13 years ago

Originally Posted by RossIT

im looking to invest in a software as im getting a few clients that want me to do their SEO for them, but i need something that can do all the submitting to web2.0's 20+ for me as doing this for my own 2 websites is time consuming enough let alone doing it for others too!

I am writing my own unique content not spinning it in anyway, i just need software that can submit it to them all quickly and then help with 2nd + 3rd tier linking any suggestions?

Magic submitter can submit your non spun article to blog 2.0 and do as what you mentioned above...

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Other software that could do the same jobs and also big rivals to MS are SEnuke, Ultimate Demon.

But I don't have any much experience with them...hope that helps ya..

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RossIT

13 years ago

Originally Posted by nightrider85

Magic submitter can submit your non spun article to blog 2.0 and do as what you mentioned above...

My personal review about Magic Submitter is Magic Submitter Review

And if you want to know how I set up my campaign from scratch, check my signature below...it will answer you question above...

Other software that could do the same jobs and also big rivals to MS are SEnuke, Ultimate Demon.

But I don't have any much experience with them...hope that helps ya..

thanks for the info i will check it out, i dont have much cash to throw at software just yet as i only have a couple of people paying monthly support. but as i grow i dont mind spending out on something a bit more expensive that ticks all the boxes.

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nightrider85

13 years ago

Originally Posted by RossIT

thanks for the info i will check it out, i dont have much cash to throw at software just yet as i only have a couple of people paying monthly support. but as i grow i dont mind spending out on something a bit more expensive that ticks all the boxes.

You're welcome dude...

If you want to learn about SEnuke or Ultimate Demon..You can refer here http://www.matthewwoodward.co.uk/tutorials/the-ultimate-guide-to-tiered-link-building-part-1/

This is a real SEO master at backlinkings...

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MatthewWoodward

13 years ago

Originally Posted by nightrider85

You're welcome dude...

If you want to learn about SEnuke or Ultimate Demon..You can refer here
http://www.matthewwoodward.co.uk/tutorials/the-ultimate-guide-to-tiered-link-building-part-1/

This is a real SEO master at backlinkings...

Thanks for sharing my tutorial

Happy to answer any questions OP

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Simin

13 years ago

I had Used Both... SeNukeXcr Win with no doubt.....

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nightrider85 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Simin

I had Used Both... SeNukeXcr Win with no doubt.....

Really ?? Can you give us some points.

Why SENUKE Xcr better than MS??? I would like to hear from a real user experience and perhaps will help our friend here to make his decision...
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trade4861

13 years ago

Hey, just a question. If Im on the first page for dozens of keywords but in spots like #9 and #10....will any of these programs get me first position with little work, or at least closer the first spot?

From what people say, it takes a long time to learn the programs, hate to waste my time for nothing.

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12 years ago

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