How many backlinks are necessary?

13 years ago

From each category? You need to create backlinks almost every day (if you have time) in order to be on top pages.. Moreover check that you did NOT get a backlink from PR8 and PR9 pages, but you get a backlink on a page with PR 1 or 2 max. The whole domain has a PR8 or PR9

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millert25

13 years ago

Why not get a pr8 or pr9 backlink? For example, If I create a profile on the forums at adobe.com and put my website in as my blog link, it is a follow link point to my site, and it will be a pr9 link. What's wrong with that?

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Gareth Mailer

13 years ago

Originally Posted by millert25

Why not get a pr8 or pr9 backlink? For example, If I create a profile on the forums at adobe.com and put my website in as my blog link, it is a follow link point to my site, and it will be a pr9 link. What's wrong with that?

A lot.

Is the ACTUAL page you're placing the link on a PR9? Of course not, it's a brand new page. PageRank is assigned at the page-level, although there's a widely held belief it's assigned at the domain level, too (just not publicly). Either way, stop treating PageRank as the be all and end all of SEO; what would you rather have, a PageRank 0 link form BBC.co.uk, or a PR4 link from a spammy directory?

Second, Google has probably a better idea of what constitutes a valuable link than either you or I are capable of imagining. It's a bit like all of the sub-domains on Wordpress.com, which some may believe enables them to piggyback off the value of the main domain but that obviously isn't the case, Google treats the sub-domain, in many instances, as a separate site.

Third, page segmentation - read about it.

Fourth, it's an easy to acquire link, which probably means it's already been exploited big style and spotted, too.

*again, I haven't even bothered looking at how the forum over at Adobe.com is constructed but take it from experience i.e. 8 years of this, if it's a ridiculously easy to acquire and non-relationship dependent i.e. supplier, link, it probably won't pass much value. This is one instance where backlinks analysis tools fall down i.e. passing on 'trust' value from sites like Blogspot and Wordpress.

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millert25

13 years ago

Wow, that's some really good info there and I appreciate it. To answer your first question, I would think it would be better to have a true pr4 backlink from a spammy directory than a 0 from an accredited website, am I right?

I appreciate the info., and I have looked into page segmentation which is really interesting. So is the big picture you're trying to convey that back-linking is dead for the most part?

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RimaNaj2011 13 years ago

It depends on a lot of factors but you need quality backlinks. Don't even waste time with article directories, web 2.0, none of that. High PR in content links are the best.
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Gareth Mailer

13 years ago

Originally Posted by millert25

Wow, that's some really good info there and I appreciate it. To answer your first question, I would think it would be better to have a true pr4 backlink from a spammy directory than a 0 from an accredited website, am I right?

I appreciate the info., and I have looked into page segmentation which is really interesting. So is the big picture you're trying to convey that back-linking is dead for the most part?

No, absolutely not - what you are doing i.e. linking from profiles/on forums I wouldn't exactly classify as link building in the first place, it's always going to produce REALLY low quality links.

Links are still, by far and away, the most weighted factor - you just need to build out a strategy that works for you i.e. assumes the amount of risk you are willing to assume, and a strategy that probably involves writing lots of unique content

See my posts in the last few days for a bit more info.

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georgefuller

13 years ago

well actually there are no such thing as number of backlink. its all about the quality of links and quality of site also the relevancy of the links and contents of the site. for example. 5 BL with pr 3 and Different IP's Vs 20BL with pr3 WIth one 1IP.

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jasono

13 years ago

Depends on the competition of your chosen keywords and your competitors in your niche. You have to surpass them.

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RossIT

13 years ago

are you sure its dofollow? everyhting on nature.com appears to be nofollow?

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kumarvijay

13 years ago

Back links are necessary for improving the search ranking but only generate the back links from the niche websites.

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affilorama-portal

13 years ago

You really should not count the number of quality backlinks you build for your site. I suggest you focus more on finding more quality and authority links so you build more links and at the same time also build your credibility online.

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asimmanj

13 years ago

agree, now google is focusing on just quality other than the spammy webiste with thousands of obls or hacked or low quality website, Just do some quality and find some quantity

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hirithk

13 years ago

Hi,

Every day you have to create backlinks, these backlinks should be quality links. the website heaving more than 1000 backlinks will be good.

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smodha 13 years ago

Originally Posted by hirithk

Hi,

Every day you have to create backlinks, these backlinks should be quality links. the website heaving more than 1000 backlinks will be good.

This isn't true. I don't build 1000s of links/day and outrank sites all the time, sites with 1000s of link profiles.

My link building is very random. There will be days where I don't backlink and my sites are fine.
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SEO Eddie

13 years ago

It completely depends on how competitive the keywords are that you are trying to rank for, and the quality of the links you are building. There is no magic number to guide you I'm afraid.

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InitialEffort

13 years ago

It doesn’t matter how many backlinks you have, as long as you’re acquiring links from different authority websites. Diversify your links by building from different types of sites with a mix of do-follow and no-follow web 2.0s, wiki, social bookmarking, press releases, blog posts, document sharing, etc. Focus more on building quality links over quantity. Search engines give more authority to sites with strong and high-quality links.

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nik0

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by millert25

I have found some good articles online and have successfully created about 20 backlinks from 20 different social book marking sites with decent PR. I have also created backlinks from some good PR8 and PR9 sites like nature.com, adobe.com, etc. I am just wondering if anybody could give me some information on how many backlinks from each category are necessary? I am still experimenting cause I'm pretty new at this but any advice/help would be appreciated, thank you!

Wow you really made some great back links there. Let's add it all up shall we:

20 PR n/a bookmark links
handful of PR n/a forum profile links.

And all successfully, you'll get there for sure!

To reach any goals I would say you need at least 100.000 of them!

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Mike Anthony 13 years ago

The answer to the OPs question is 27

The rest of you are all a pack of newbs.
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ilee

13 years ago

I'm pretty sure it's 42...

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

The answer to the OPs question is 27

The rest of you are all a pack of newbs.

Btw Mike, just bit the bullet and gave you some money.

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Mike Anthony 13 years ago

Originally Posted by ichl13

Btw Mike, just bit the bullet and gave you some money.

I like donations with nothing required in return...... thanks.

P.S. good timing. Have update videos coming online this week.
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- ilee 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Mike Anthony
  
  I like donations with nothing required in return...... thanks.
  
  No problem, I'm all about helping struggling IMers out
  
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- nik0 Banned 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Mike Anthony
  
  I like donations with nothing required in return...... thanks.
  
  P.S. good timing. Have update videos coming online this week.
  
  About time, same like that white hat method that we are waiting forever for!!!
  
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  Gareth Mailer 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by nik0
  
  About time, same like that white hat method that we are waiting forever for!!!
  
  Don't you know? If you create GREAT content, people will link to you - happens automatically, you know?
  
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  nik0 Banned 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Gareth Mailer
  
  Don't you know? If you create GREAT content, people will link to you - happens automatically, you know?
  
  Oh creating, that's same like Mashed up content?
  
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  Mike Anthony 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Gareth Mailer
  
  Don't you know? If you create GREAT content, people will link to you - happens automatically, you know?
  
  Who told you???
  
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  Mike Anthony 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by nik0
  
  About time, same like that white hat method that we are waiting forever for!!!
  
  We? Who ever included you?
  
  Plus I figured I would give you a month or two before the method wipes out your business...Since you insist........the programmers are working on some glitches. Yes I increased the mystery. Programmers? For a white hat technique? yep
  
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markwilson4074

13 years ago

Its the link diversity which counts in ranking not the number of links. Its always better to have backlinks from a number of unique and diversified sources to get best results.

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Boricua

13 years ago

Originally Posted by millert25

I have found some good articles online and have successfully created about 20 backlinks from 20 different social book marking sites with decent PR. I have also created backlinks from some good PR8 and PR9 sites like nature.com, adobe.com, etc. I am just wondering if anybody could give me some information on how many backlinks from each category are necessary? I am still experimenting cause I'm pretty new at this but any advice/help would be appreciated, thank you!

Decent PR? That's great..but what's decent PR for links in your niche right now? You can work on eventually, but for now consider checking top 10 Google rank sites for your concluded money keywords, then among the many! A good starting option will be to focus on acquiring links that'll be worth it now and links very likely to be worth it months from now. A review on this forum sub-category will do wonders for your research, to re-confirm check the links that are working by 'test' from other fellow warriors here. It eases the research and test on your end. Gl

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Stephenbolt

13 years ago

I think it completely depends on how viable the keywords are that you are trying to rank for, and the superiority of the links you are building. There is no magic number to guide you where I can help. You have to daily keep getting some back links every day, the more you have the better it is. Getting a few only will help only a bit. Rankings are judged by how many back links you have and so yes you have to keep getting them.

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JohnConorX

13 years ago

Though it depends on the competition if your niche, building quality backlinks gives you a long run... you will never get penalized or have any sort of problem in future if you have the top quality backlinks...