More than one backlink from same site = good?

by Heathj
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Do more backlinks from a reputable site in your niche = better juice? Or have I gotten all the juice I can get from that site, once I got one backlink from them?

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  • Profile picture of the author azad
    Multiple backlinks from same site helps. Its means more PR flowing to your website.
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    • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
      Originally Posted by azad View Post

      Multiple backlinks from same site helps. Its means more PR flowing to your website.
      Actually, I think it's the opposite. There's a point of diminishing returns. That's not to say you shouldn't get a few links from the same site (different pages.) But I'm pretty sure they become less and less useful after awhile.
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    • Profile picture of the author patco
      Originally Posted by azad View Post

      Multiple backlinks from same site helps. Its means more PR flowing to your website.
      Yes, unless you have your website in a LOT of pages... This will tell Google that your website could spam this website for getting listed in EACH page. That's why after all the Google updates, a better way to get quality backlinks is via blogpost
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        Originally Posted by patco View Post

        Yes, unless you have your website in a LOT of pages... This will tell Google that your website could spam this website for getting listed in EACH page. That's why after all the Google updates, a better way to get quality backlinks is via blogpost
        You have over 1,000 posts on warrioruforum.com. That's
        1057 backlinks from warriorforum.com. And counting.
        3 link sig, actually over 3,000.

        If you were worried about google and spam, you would not
        be spamming...er...posting a google product link here.

        Anyone who states nonsense about links on same domain, and has spammed...
        er posted on this forum over 1000 links, well, what do I always say?

        Nobody with any amount of sig links here should be talking about how
        links on same domain are harmful.

        People have voted. They think that having a brazilian amount of links on
        wf is a good thing.

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  • Profile picture of the author squadron
    Links for different pages from the same site are just fine if the content is relevant to the destination and the domain authority is strong.
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  • Profile picture of the author HostStage
    Better PR flow that's for sure. SEO wise, the context does matter though. So if you get several backlinks from semantic alike pages, it would definitly help.

    Footer links or sidebar ones, doesn't help that much but for PR.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevejhon1
    It Is Good, But To Get More Benefits You Should Try To Get Backlinks From Different Domains.
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  • Profile picture of the author Backlinko
    If you're looking for pure PR juice, then you can hit the same domain over and over again.

    But if you want to rank the page, you're better off getting links from as many quality domains as possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author seophalanx
      Yes, its true! If you will build link from different pages of same website, the result will be fruitful and effective. But while creating such links one must be aware that niche are related, otherwise Google may penalize your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author seoace
    You get more "PR Juice" from your 2nd,3rd, etc backlinks from the same site. However, factor in the diminishing returns in the "PR Juice".
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  • Profile picture of the author SandraElam
    you can have multiple backlinks from the same domain but I think if you have 7000 backlinks just from 1 domain that will affect your website ranking and Google may think you are spamming a website...just an opinion
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  • Profile picture of the author freeadstime
    There is a video on Google webmaster tools YouTube channel about this question. Matt Cutts the head of Google's spam team says each link counts.
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  • Profile picture of the author STLSEO
    Yes, you can have more than 1 backlink from the same domain.

    However, Google gives the highest value to the first link indexed. If you have over 50 backlinks from the same domain, Google tends to devalue most of those links, and sometimes doesn't even consider them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Make Money Ninja
    There is a point where more backlinks from a site provide no more value.

    So for example, 1 link might provide X value, 5 links might provide Y value, but 5000 links might not provide much value than Y.

    So for example, in most cases 10 site wide links, might be 10k backlinks, but they might not be worth more than 100 good links from single pages on websites.

    It's hard to speak in absolutes, i hope you get the picture.
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  • Profile picture of the author weston2012
    I post 1 comment link here Amazing website navigation (24 examples)

    only one backlink showing me in attachment image.
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  • Profile picture of the author danparks
    Originally Posted by BonusSEO View Post

    Matt cutts answered a question on this recently. I don't usually take too much notice of what he says but in this case I found his answer to be pretty concise.

    Multiple links on a site like a blog roll for example are taken on a site by site scenario.

    If it is related it can be beneficial, if it is not then it could negatively affect your site.

    One thing he did mention was that they have this pretty much wrapped up in the current algorithm so just a heads up.

    Personally I find it beneficial either way but maybe I have been lucky.
    I too don't take Matt's words as gospel. But yes, sometimes I think you can glean a little useful information from what he says. I didn't see the video myself, so I don't know if what you state is 100% accurate as to what he said. However, if he did in fact say that blogroll links could "negatively affect your site" then that's not a good way of doing things. It's pretty obvious to everyone that blogroll links are ads. They aren't contextual links in articles, they're each just a few words that link to a site. Usually several of them, unrelated topics, together on a page. They're obviously ads. So, sure, it would make sense if Google did not consider them a positive as far as rankings. However, negative? No. Businesses are allowed to advertise (and encouraged to by Google (AdWords, paid-for listings at the top/side of Google search results pages)). So, blogroll links should be ignored by Google for SEO purposes, but they shouldn't "negatively impact" search results. No positve, no negative, just ignored and treated for exactly what they are - paid-for ads.
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    • Profile picture of the author danparks
      Originally Posted by BonusSEO View Post

      I will see if I can dig out the video for you to take a look at.

      Hmmm I have had my blog comments on blog rolls before which was completely natural so not sure.

      Let me see if I can get the video for you anyway wouldn't mind taking a look at it myself.

      Footer links are another issue again I suppose.
      Thanks, if you find a link to that video I would like to take a look at it.

      I've seen websites that display "most recent comments" in a sidebar. If that's what you're referring to, I wouldn't consider those to be the same as what most people think of as "blogroll" links. What I think of as blogroll links are those links that appear in the sidebar in a column, and are all of the nature of "Earn Big Money," "Low Interest Loans," "Gread Deals On Furniture", each linking to a selling site. Not short content pulled from the site (maybe that is classified as "blogroll" but it's not what I'm thinking of).

      This next thing has nothing nothing to do with anything Matt or Google says, but in regards to footer links, I personally think (with no proof) that Google should classify footer links the same as blogroll links. I've developed websites for others, and when I do that I always include a link back to my site in the footer of each page. I don't do it for SEO purposes, I do it as free advertisement. Maybe someone visiting the site will like the site, and then click on the link to get more information about the developer of the site. If the footer link helps SEO-wise, great. But I don't expect it to. It's simply a free way to hopefully get a little direct traffic ("direct" as in someone gets to my site through that link and not through a Google search). *Hopefully* Google views things the same way, and simply ignores those links SEO-wise, and doesn't "punish" my site in some way. It would be really bad practice if they did frown on that kind of link and punish me because I've got 20 links on 20 pages of a site. I didn't do it for SEO purposes or to game SEO. It's an ad.

      Originally Posted by Larry Leggett View Post

      Matt Cutts is a employee of Google and he is not going to reveal any secret about getting ranking. Just have a look at the signature links of @patco. They are about weight loss, funny pictures etc. None of those sites are relevant to the niche or theme of this forum. Still all his blogs have got good PR. How would you explain that?
      Absolutely agree with you Larry. It's not in Google's best interest to reveal details of their search algorithms or just what they're up to as far as how they rank sites. I absolutely take everything Matt says with a grain of salt. Some of it might be true, some might be lies, some might be in the middle. I do think though that it's worthwhile to track everything he says, and to try to "read between the lines" and try to gain some insight from his words. It's a very aggravating, irritating, frustrating thing to do, and I probably seldom get it right or really figure it out, but I still play the game.
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  • Profile picture of the author Larry Leggett
    Matt Cutts is a employee of Google and he is not going to reveal any secret about getting ranking. Just have a look at the signature links of @patco. They are about weight loss, funny pictures etc. None of those sites are relevant to the niche or theme of this forum. Still all his blogs have got good PR. How would you explain that?
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  • Profile picture of the author ardor
    Originally Posted by Heathj View Post

    Do more backlinks from a reputable site in your niche = better juice? Or have I gotten all the juice I can get from that site, once I got one backlink from them?
    In doing more backlink from same site may be good but you should consider the way to make it more natural. If you can have links in different site that would help you have more links at all rather than focusing in one site is away better of increasing your chance to get to the top RANK..

    Backlinking would not be that easy for anybody who take it seriously and get it done on the right way but if we share ideas from others who had this experience and are expert in doing backlinking, it will be best to get their opinions apply those that have been successful to this business.

    I read a book about Killer Link Building which had been used by some companies who just started doing SEO that would allow them expand their knowledge and understanding on how SEO works. I prefer if you can also get a copy of the book and read points to help you more about backlinking.

    Drop me a line if you want to have a free copy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Simin
    Same IP's means count as one links. right?
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  • Profile picture of the author bundalov
    A lot of people who ask for link exchange demand that I put their website link on ONE post only, usually on front page and that's it. They don't want to have their link on every page on my website.
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  • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
    why not? it's good bro. more than one backlink as long as the backlink does not look unnatural is perfectly fine
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    • Profile picture of the author Larry Leggett
      Originally Posted by alvinchua91 View Post

      why not? it's good bro. more than one backlink as long as the backlink does not look unnatural is perfectly fine
      How to make sure that a link is looking natural or unnatural ?
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  • Profile picture of the author dennis09
    This thread is almost as good as watchin a monkey f*ck a football. More nonsense please.
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    • Profile picture of the author satrap
      Originally Posted by dennis09 View Post

      This thread is almost as good as watchin a monkey f*ck a football. More nonsense please.
      Well, if you are certain its nonsense, why not help a newbie and explain to them how this whole thing works, instead of letting nonsense take over?...
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      • Profile picture of the author dennis09
        Originally Posted by satrap View Post

        Well, if you are certain its nonsense, why not help a newbie and explain to them how this whole thing works, instead of letting nonsense take over?...
        Because this has been debated and talked about so many times and just like everything else it gets a bit nauseating. And trust me on this, as a newb the search button is your friend. (Not referring to you btw)

        To the OP,

        If you're doing white hate then I doubt you'd be able to get anywhere near 5,000 links from a reputable authority site. If it's a single sitewide link or comment widget then those links will give you a temporary boost but then become discounted after some time. The only other thing I can see you doing to get this many links is possibly comment spamming the entire blog or blasting spun articles to it. Which would make sense judging by the quality of your links so far (sig).

        On the other hand, if you do have relationships with other relevant blogs then you'd be better served by funneling the PR through only a few links. 3-4 depending on how many links you can get. You're basically creating a link pyramid on the site itself before funneling the PR to you. This is a better approach because PR flows internally much easier than it does to external URLS.

        And do yourself a favor and disregard people throwing out magic numbers. I don't have a lot of time to respond to everything here but that one made me cringe and giggle at the same time. Amazing really.
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  • Profile picture of the author webboost
    If there is too much from the same site it looks really spammy.
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    • Profile picture of the author HanifQ
      In the long scheme of things, the number 'Unique Linking Domains' to your site is gonna have a measurable impact on how strong your link profile is...

      SEOMoz and opensiteexplorer give a lot of weight to this metric, and they are pretty much the largest SEO company in the world with TONS of data to work with.

      With that said, if you get multiple links from the same domain, its not a big deal as long as its 1)contextually relevant and 2)Mozrank of the domain is 3+ (authority) and 3)you're linking to different pages on your site.

      There are many authority sites that link to other authority sites HUNDREDS of times, but its usually contextually relevant and they link to different inner pages/articles, which is very natural.

      If the same site is always linking to your homepage dozens of times, that could be an unnatural signal but there's no hard and fast rule...you just have to use common sense and follow the blueprints/metrics of other high ranking sites in your niche.
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      • Profile picture of the author dennis09
        Originally Posted by HanifQ View Post

        In the long scheme of things, the number 'Unique Linking Domains' to your site is gonna have a measurable impact on how strong your link profile is...

        SEOMoz and opensiteexplorer give a lot of weight to this metric, and they are pretty much the largest SEO company in the world with TONS of data to work with.

        With that said, if you get multiple links from the same domain, its not a big deal as long as its 1)contextually relevant and 2)Mozrank of the domain is 3+ (authority) and 3)you're linking to different pages on your site.

        There are many authority sites that link to other authority sites HUNDREDS of times, but its usually contextually relevant and they link to different inner pages/articles, which is very natural.

        If the same site is always linking to your homepage dozens of times, that could be an unnatural signal but there's no hard and fast rule...you just have to use common sense and follow the blueprints/metrics of other high ranking sites in your niche.
        Minus the Mozrank stuff i thought this was a very good post.

        Confucius says: "Balance-When placing a link, always do it in reference to your link profile."
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        • Profile picture of the author HanifQ
          I appreciate your input Dennis09 and your praise...

          By the way, I only mention the Mozrank of 3+ within the following context, and you can feel give your input and/or disagree with me...

          Some SEO Managers(from firms trusted by SEOMoz and major players) believe that IF a site has hundreds of backlinks, and almost ALL of those backlinks are coming from sites with a low Mozrank, it may be an indicator of low quality link building tactics.

          Again, this is on the condition of a site having a fairly large backlinking profile WITHOUT high authority links....if its a smaller site with just a handful of backlinks, then it doesn't matter because its understood that a small/non-authority/local site isn't likely to attract high profile links.

          Please share your thoughts on this Dennis09 (and anyone else who has an EDUCATED, researched opinion on the issue).
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          • Profile picture of the author dennis09
            Originally Posted by HanifQ View Post

            I appreciate your input Dennis09 and your praise...

            By the way, I only mention the Mozrank of 3+ within the following context, and you can feel give your input and/or disagree with me...

            Some SEO Managers(from firms trusted by SEOMoz and major players) believe that IF a site has hundreds of backlinks, and almost ALL of those backlinks are coming from sites with a low Mozrank, it may be an indicator of low quality link building tactics.
            Keyword: indicator. Keep in mind that SEOMoz isn't Google and many times their metrics are inacurate. Not to mention that they can be easily manipulated.
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            • Profile picture of the author HanifQ
              True, in the overall scheme, Google is Google is King, no one really knows what they're really up to. So in that sense, Mozrank is just an estimate, or a guess of what Google may be looking for, and they can be wrong.
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  • Profile picture of the author meenuweb
    I think multiple links from same domain does not harm your site .it will be better if backlinks come from different domain will add more value.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hansons
    Even internal linking in your site would help, if you are linking to other pages of the same site, you would get benefit, it should be relevant, natural as well.
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