low allintitle page count = easy to rank

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I was told buy a video info product seller that if I want to rank a youtube video, I should look for keywords with low "allintitle" page counts (less than 100) and this would ensure a fairly easy page 1 rank. I thought that backlinks, domain authority and content were all big factors as well.

Any thoughts?
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  • Profile picture of the author shailender
    Certainly you're right, but sometimes your "YouTube" video ranks without doing any link building. There could be many reasons... low competition, well optimized video etc. We all know that Google love to display videos for search terms, so if your video is using same keyword which has been searched by searcher then your video could easily show up on first page.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

    I was told buy a WSO seller that if I want to rank a youtube video, I should look for keywords with low "allintitle" page counts (less than 100) and this would ensure a fairly easy page 1 rank. I thought that backlinks, domain authority and content were all big factors as well.

    Any thoughts?

    The WSO seller you talked to is a moron. "allintitle" has NOTHING to do with the level of competition for a keyword.
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    • Profile picture of the author ColouredRice
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      The WSO seller you talked to is a moron. "allintitle" has NOTHING to do with the level of competition for a keyword.
      Not necessarily, using both "allintitle" and "allinurl" of your keyword is a good general indicator of how many people are trying to optimize their site/video to compete with you.

      Other than how many competitors you have though, it doesn't really tell you how competitive the keyword is.
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      • Profile picture of the author hockeyplayer85
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        Originally Posted by ColouredRice View Post

        Not necessarily, using both "allintitle" and "allinurl" of your keyword is a good general indicator of how many people are trying to optimize their site/video to compete with you.

        Other than how many competitors you have though, it doesn't really tell you how competitive the keyword is.
        ^this

        Also, sounds like a reasonable idea. Afterall, many Youtube videos rank without any backlinks at all - I might give this a shot myself :p
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by ColouredRice View Post

        Not necessarily, using both "allintitle" and "allinurl" of your keyword is a good general indicator of how many people are trying to optimize their site/video to compete with you.

        Other than how many competitors you have though, it doesn't really tell you how competitive the keyword is.
        Exactly my point. It makes no flipping difference how many results are returned by those silly searches. All that matters is how difficult it is to outrank the 10 sites on page one. Number 11-5,000,000 don't matter.
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    • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      The WSO seller you talked to is a moron. "allintitle" has NOTHING to do with the level of competition for a keyword.
      This 100%.

      The only competition that matters is on page 1, and, to a greater extent, the top 3.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Allintitle will return pages that aren't even listed on the first search page while traffic is doing a regular search. Average traffic doesn't search allintitle.

    I use intitle on the top ranked organic domains just to get an idea how serious the top ranked domains are about the keyword, but that's still a very rough point of view, regardless, I like to know what I'm dealing with.

    Example, If my keyword was best seo & say Warrior Forum ranked #1 for that keyword I would search for:

    intitle:"best seo" site:www.warriorforum.com
    The downside of that search is If the keywords are reversed seo best (just an example), so I'll usually reverse the keyword phrase, or even search intitle on the #1 ranked domain for each individual part of the keyword phrase.
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  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

    I was told buy a video info product seller that if I want to rank a youtube video, I should look for keywords with low "allintitle" page counts (less than 100) and this would ensure a fairly easy page 1 rank. I thought that backlinks, domain authority and content were all big factors as well.

    Any thoughts?
    This is the worst advice I have ever seen on WF. Like Mike says, the only competition that matters is page #1. I use SEO Quake to analyse my competition. That's all you need.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by smodha View Post

      This is the worst advice I have ever seen on WF. Like Mike says, the only competition that matters is page #1. I use SEO Quake to analyse my competition. That's all you need.
      Not only is that all you need but after searching practically every keyword tool out there I found none of them gives you better data than that.

      titles, PR, the actual positions. URLs on one page. how places and video is playing into the first page etc all with looking at the first page with quake installed.

      Even tools that give you most of that information don't give you all on a single page without having to click around in much slower applications.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by smodha View Post

      I use SEO Quake to analyse my competition. That's all you need.
      ...and that will get you a fraction of the details about a ranked page. A web page can be boosted in the SERPs with internal pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author CatherineMay
    I apologize if this sounds like a stupid question, but what's the best way to determine what "page 1" really is? Will SEO quake show me a true page 1 that doesn't reflect my own internet activity?
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    • Profile picture of the author Craig B
      Originally Posted by CatherineMay View Post

      I apologize if this sounds like a stupid question, but what's the best way to determine what "page 1" really is? Will SEO quake show me a true page 1 that doesn't reflect my own internet activity?
      Make sure your cookies are cleared when you're keyword researching. Search history can affect your search results.

      Also, your location has an affect if local search results show up or if you are trying to rank in a different country.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by CatherineMay View Post

      I apologize if this sounds like a stupid question, but what's the best way to determine what "page 1" really is? Will SEO quake show me a true page 1 that doesn't my own internet activity?
      I use CCleaner (free) to clear any trace of browser history & then use Chrome Incognito as the browser. I think firefox also has an incognito mode (private browsing).

      When I'm doing manual keyword searches, I'm constantly opening/closing new Incognito browsers per new keyword so the SERPs aren't skewed by my browser history. I think Chrome Incognito keeps a temporary history per browser session, even If Google says it doesn't.

      Keep in mind, most traffic will probably have some browser history/cookies.
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  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    Google Incognito is the simplest solution to get a better picture of page #1 competition. You could also clear cookies/cache for your peace of mind but I think Incognito mode if fine.
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    • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
      Originally Posted by smodha View Post

      Google Incognito is the simplest solution to get a better picture of page #1 competition. You could also clear cookies/cache for your peace of mind but I think Incognito mode if fine.
      I use incognito + check from a few different locations through my VPN. Seems to be enough to get a realistic look @ rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author RavishingRajni
    How should allintitle be used?

    Allintitle: keyword
    OR
    Allintitle "keyword"
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulintheSticks
    I was booted off the private Facebook group that was included with my purchase of this video ranking info product for posting this thread on the group. Doh!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
      Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

      I was booted off the private Facebook group that was included with my purchase of this video ranking info product for posting this thread on the group. Doh!
      Name and shame so. You owe the fool nada. He owes you a refund too.
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    • Profile picture of the author online only
      Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

      I was booted off the private Facebook group that was included with my purchase of this video ranking info product for posting this thread on the group. Doh!
      That's awful. They should have apologized on you or smth for providing junk-information.

      I have never understood the WSO sellers. They tend know about everything, but not deeply enough. So they mix up some crap and make it live.

      I'm not talking about all the WSO sellers, but vast majority of them. IMHO, launch a WSO when you are an expert on a specific niche/technique/subject.

      For example, I know about PPC, SEO and WordPress. I'm not a "Guru" nor expert. Now, is it wise to create a WSO called "Get $1,034842,492 a month using PPC, SEO and Wordpress blog!". - Nope, it's wrong.

      Instead I would create something deep and very comprehensive on a specific thing or just leave it there.

      Sorry for offtopic, but it really pisses me off when I see another thread saying "MY EXACT STRATEGY How I Earned a Billion THIS Month" and the WSO price is $5.99 :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author TheBigBee
        Originally Posted by online only View Post

        ... it really pisses me off when I see another thread saying "MY EXACT STRATEGY How I Earned a Billion THIS Month" and the WSO price is $5.99 :rolleyes:
        This is so funny, but so damned true!
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      • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
        Originally Posted by online only View Post

        Sorry for offtopic, but it really pisses me off when I see another thread saying "MY EXACT STRATEGY How I Earned a Billion THIS Month" and the WSO price is $5.99 :rolleyes:
        What's even worse is the eBay sellers with pictures of boats, fancy cars, huge houses, women with gigantic implants, etc.

        "HOW I EARN $1,829,714.81 A MONTH. SO EASY YOUR 96 YEAR OLD GRANDMA COULD DO IT!!!!!!"

        Buy it Now price? 99 cents.
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  • Only way to really find out is to test but I would agree that this smells a little funny.
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  • Profile picture of the author GaryCarlyle
    I think its obvious that in any business that the demand VS supply ratio is maybe the most important factor. Good question though.
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