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I am considering buying a domain with "fake PR" of 5. I know for a fact that the PR is being redirected with a 302 from another site.

But it has been this way for over 2 years. Apparently the redirect is never going to be removed.

Now the site is also in Google's cache as legit and also with info:[domain]

Every "check pagerank" checker brings back the site as having legit PR of 5.

My question: Does anyone know -- with the redirect staying in place and all the above factors, does this site actually pass on PR 5 strength to links put on it?
#fake #pagerank #real
  • Profile picture of the author paulgl
    Real is not fake.

    Your case, the 302 redirect would not be faking PR.

    Check the google cache and the backlinks.

    PR flowing from one domain to another is not fake PR.
    Any PR push from another domain, would certainly continue
    to hold and grow, if one were making backlinks to the old domain.

    If that was ever turned off, that would mean that the backlinks
    would be gone *poof* and the site would lose PR.

    I would not touch that crap with a 10 foot pole.

    It's like asking if I buy a PR7 site, and know that in one month all
    backlinks will be wiped out, should I buy the domain?

    Of course not.

    On a side note..concerning how to fake PR

    fake PR is not done by a 301, 302, 303,...307 or whatever.
    It is done by a script that redirects to a high PR only when
    the googlebot is crawling it. All others (humans) see the normal webpage.
    Thereby, humans think it's a real page with high PR. What they
    don't realize, is as soon as the script is gone, and the script MUST
    be gone for google to index it, then the real PR shows up, most
    of the time a little later. It can't be done using one of those
    redirects, as that would not give the fake PR. 302 to 307 are
    just other ways around old code and browsers. The googlebot
    does not work like a browser.

    It is this short window of opportunity that the fake PR shows up
    and hoodwinks people.

    No online PR checker, and I mean no online PR cannot be fooled.

    Only google owns internal checker cannot be fooled, but google
    is not going to make that available, as it would divulge a plethora
    of well guarded secrets.

    There are ways of knowing whether a site has real PR, for the
    most part.

    First, the page should be indexed and in the google cache. As
    I mentioned above, sometimes this is not exactly perfect. The
    google cache might not be updated as the site is redirected.

    Second, a quick view of google backlinks is certainly a tip off.
    If you see none, or a handful, bingo. Fake PR.

    Third, age of website. I see a lot of fake PR sites out there that
    are less than a month old.

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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by Dan Ellenwood View Post

    But it has been this way for over 2 years. Apparently the redirect is never going to be removed.
    Unless you own both domains you don't know how long the redirect will continue to be in place.

    I seriously doubt anyone would continue paying for a domain renewal year after year for a redirect to another persons domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    So you are looking at site A. Site B is the one with the actual PR and it is being redirected to site A.

    Is that what you are saying?

    In that case, the PR of site A is "real", but unless it has good PR links of its own coming to it, the second that the redirect is turned off, the PR goes away.

    If you do not own site B, that means you really have no control over this.

    In other words, it would be a waste of money to buy site A if you are buying it for the PR only.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Ellenwood
      Good points here, this is why I asked.

      Your case, the 302 redirect would not be faking PR.

      Check the google cache and the backlinks.

      PR flowing from one domain to another is not fake PR.
      Any PR push from another domain, would certainly continue
      to hold and grow, if one were making backlinks to the old domain.

      If that was ever turned off, that would mean that the backlinks
      would be gone *poof* and the site would lose PR.
      It is coming from a government domain in a different country which continues to be important. It looks like some government worker (or former worker) put the redirect in and then forgot about it -- it has been there over two years. The domain I now have (I just bought it as an experiment) is over four years old and has not been dropped.

      Unless you own both domains you don't know how long the redirect will continue to be in place.
      Exactly. I am hoping it will stay for a while (or forever) as apparently the current government workers that deal with the domain don't even know it exists.

      So you are looking at site A. Site B is the one with the actual PR and it is being redirected to site A.

      Is that what you are saying?
      yes

      In that case, the PR of site A is "real", but unless it has good PR links of its own coming to it, the second that the redirect is turned off, the PR goes away.

      If you do not own site B, that means you really have no control over this.

      In other words, it would be a waste of money to buy site A if you are buying it for the PR only.
      The government site has awesome PR links coming to it. I am doing this with my eyes wide open trying to take advantage of the PR while it lasts -- while the redirect is still in place.

      So I am assuming all you people are saying that this domain will give legitimate PR 5 juice while all these factors are in place?
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