Google need to be Regulated NOW

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Google needs to be regulated in someway now because

1. They have too much influence over the world .

2. They generate revenue by manipulating search engines for there benefit, caring more about money than how it helps the public ( i actually thought more about this one, maybe thats a little harsh )

3. They exploit UK and other tax laws.

I know you are going to give me all this they area compnay BS and I agree.. but its a massive part of society now and they should be regulated.
#google #regulated
  • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
    One question: Were your sites hit?
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    • Profile picture of the author nesvarbu
      Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

      One question: Were your sites hit?
      Thought the same )
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    • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
      Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

      One question: Were your sites hit?
      This. 100%.

      Google need to be regulated because your site just get hit by the Penguin update.

      Lol.
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    • Profile picture of the author jimkirk1943
      Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

      One question: Were your sites hit?
      love it !!!
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      Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

      One question: Were your sites hit?
      Dammn! Epic.
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      • Profile picture of the author bostoncitymass
        I agree they should be regulated.

        I mean let's think about this logically. Google is a business that is in the business of making money....shame on them.

        I have been breaking every Google terms of service since I could say backlinks, and now they have the nerve to penalize my site because I was doing stuff they told me not to? Shame on them.

        How can they get away with tanking my dog training site, that I have sent 4,000,000 profile links, and comment links to that sells a crappy ebook from clickbank that was written by a fake person, who would make Caesar Milan cry based on the crappy misinformation contained in the book. Shame on them.

        We need the Gov't to step in immediately to stop this madness.
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        • Profile picture of the author webby0031
          Originally Posted by bostoncitymass View Post

          I agree they should be regulated.

          I mean let's think about this logically. Google is a business that is in the business of making money....shame on them.

          I have been breaking every Google terms of service since I could say backlinks, and now they have the nerve to penalize my site because I was doing stuff they told me not to? Shame on them.

          How can they get away with tanking my dog training site, that I have sent 4,000,000 profile links, and comment links to that sells a crappy ebook from clickbank that was written by a fake person, who would make Caesar Milan cry based on the crappy misinformation contained in the book. Shame on them.

          We need the Gov't to step in immediately to stop this madness.
          What are you talking about ? been on the crack pipe again ? is this your site ?
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    • Profile picture of the author webby0031
      Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

      One question: Were your sites hit?
      Not really anything major. few up places a few down, nothing unusual. Total traffic down 5% across all sites. seems pretty much ok
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    Originally Posted by webby0031 View Post

    Google needs to be regulated in someway now because

    1. They have too much influence over the world .

    2. They generate revenue by manipulating search engines for there benefit, caring more about money than how it helps the public

    3. They exploit UK and other tax laws.

    I know you are going to give me all this they area compnay BS and I agree.. but its a massive part of society now and they should be regulated.
    Nah, seriously man?

    1. Only in your world. Most of the world have never even had a computer, never mind internet. But for the small part of the world your talking about, it's a matter of personal choice which Search engine to use.

    2. They generate revenue by displaying pages on "THEIR" website however they see fit. Just like you do on "YOUR" website.

    3. No they don't. I posted the News report the other day on the main forum. They sat down, looked at the Tax system. And found the best method of accounting to pay the least amount of Taxes. And everything they do is well within the legal framework of any given country. Your telling me, you an everyone else on the planet does not do the very same thing?

    If you don't like the game. Then don't play the game.
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    • Profile picture of the author webby0031
      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      Nah, seriously man?

      1. Only in your world. Most of the world have never even had a computer, never mind internet. But for the small part of the world your talking about, it's a matter of personal choice which Search engine to use.

      A matter of personal

      2. They generate revenue by displaying pages on "THEIR" website however they see fit. Just like you do on "YOUR" website.

      3. No they don't. I posted the News report the other day on the main forum. They sat down, looked at the Tax system. And found the best method of accounting to pay the least amount of Taxes. And everything they do is well within the legal framework of any given country. Your telling me, you an everyone else on the planet does not do the very same thing?

      If you don't like the game. Then don't play the game.
      Poor post mate..

      1. what a stupid argument

      2. again irrelevant to the point I am making.

      3. Correct, but a scam

      If i dont like the game? are you serious ? makes no sense..
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  • Profile picture of the author MsHeart
    Google is a business, like yours. If you were running the world, you also wouldn't want to be regulated.
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    • Profile picture of the author webby0031
      Originally Posted by MsHeart View Post

      Google is a business, like yours. If you were running the world, you also wouldn't want to be regulated.
      If i was running the world I would be regulated
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      • Profile picture of the author Avalonesa
        When you run the world it is impossible to be regulated, the regulators would be like toothless tigers.

        Its all a big show, but nothing really gets done. Havn't you guys learned anything about how things work at the top?
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        • Profile picture of the author webby0031
          Originally Posted by Avalonesa View Post

          When you run the world it is impossible to be regulated, the regulators would be like toothless tigers.

          Its all a big show, but nothing really gets done. Havn't you guys learned anything about how things work at the top?
          The great Google Conspiracy Theory
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
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    When I took a big hit last year I was an emotional wreck... just like you I was starting threads about the big bad Google... it's a natural reaction!

    The best thing is to switch your PC off and take a few days away from this IM/SEO game. Go and enjoy life and try and put things behind you. Thereafter get back on your bike and start afresh if that is what you want! Adjust your strategy or completely overhaul it... you will know what to do once you have refuelled
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    • Profile picture of the author webby0031
      Originally Posted by IM Ash View Post

      @webby0031

      When I took a big hit last year I was an emotional wreck... just like you I was starting threads about the big bad Google... it's a natural reaction!

      The best thing is to switch your PC off and take a few days away from this IM/SEO game. Go and enjoy life and try and put things behind you. Thereafter get back on your bike and start afresh if that is what you want! Adjust your strategy or completely overhaul it... you will know what to do once you have refuelled!
      Thats great advice mate fo people who have been penguin-ed , I though have not been affected, I have just been reading more about they way they operate and what british politicians say. I do agree with them
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      • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
        Originally Posted by webby0031 View Post

        Thats great advice mate fo people who have been penguin-ed , I though have not been affected, I have just been reading more about they way they operate and what british politicians say. I do agree with them
        Ahhh, my bad! :confused: Maybe someone else reading who did take a hit will gain some value from my comment!
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  • Profile picture of the author ogenox
    If you ask me, they should be regulated only because they plan to shut down Google Reader. I still cannot believe that they decided to do that, especially because they know that it was used mainly by more experienced and more versed internet users, akka geeks. :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author bobncsu
      Originally Posted by ogenox View Post

      If you ask me, they should be regulated only because they plan to shut down Google Reader. I still cannot believe that they decided to do that, especially because they know that it was used mainly by more experienced and more versed internet users, akka geeks. :rolleyes:
      i feel the same way! lol
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Sorry. I don't want to live in a completely socialist society. Free market will take care of itself.

    Apple held the majority of the smartphone market. They stopped innovating. Now they are losing market share dramatically. If Google fails to provide a service people like and continue to use, same thing will happen to them.

    As far as taxes... all big corporations do it. Apple is one of the worst, but everyone loves Apple. They can do no wrong. Of course they have to put suicide prevention nets outside their factories... but yeah, no big deal.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      Apple held the majority of the smartphone market. They stopped innovating. Now they are losing market share dramatically. If Google fails to provide a service people like and continue to use, same thing will happen to them.
      As far as taxes... all big corporations do it. Apple is one of the worst, but everyone loves Apple. They can do no wrong. Of course they have to put suicide prevention nets outside their factories... but yeah, no big deal.
      Google shoves profits offshore, then supports Obama...not being political,
      just saying...They do the practices he preaches against, and they
      support him! Go figure.

      Funny thing. Nobody likes hearing that Mike. About innovating. Google
      seems to never stop. Apple, well, they no longer have Steve Jobs.
      That in itself can stop a train.

      Blackberry. Man I loved that thing....5 years ago, if anyone had
      told me that people would be ditching their crackberrys, I'd
      say they were nuts. Now I love my android phone.

      Nobody likes google here because they feel google is responsible
      for their business.

      I wonder why godaddy spends millions in TV ads...
      Kayak? Travelocity? Priceline? Orbitz? Overstock? Same thing...

      Seriously. Don't those people know about the free traffic they
      can get just by shmoozing google? Oh wait. Those ARE real
      businesses....

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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    Governments need money.

    Regulation gets money.

    Google has money.

    One day Google will face more and more regulations designed at transferring money to the government.

    Google will slip the noose and find a loophole to get out of it
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  • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
    Originally Posted by webby0031 View Post

    Google needs to be regulated in someway now because
    If you don't want other people opinions about a topic, don't start it in an open forum...

    Every response you've posted above has been either rude or didn't make sense at all.

    And for starters, you should do research before starting threads like this and you would have seen that Google is one of the most regulated companies by the SEC and FTC in the United States and is regulated by several bodies in the United Kingdom as well.

    So what exactly do you mean that they aren't regulated? Oh wait... let me guess... your little website has been spamming blogs and forums and now is ranking as good anymore. I'm sure you wish that someone important enough to make a difference would stand up for your little website, but it's not going to happen because at the end of the day, Google still owns itself. If they choose to change their algorithm they have every right to do is as long as they are working with the law.
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  • Profile picture of the author heintje
    Google will only be 'regulated' when Bing and Yahoo get their act together and increase their market share
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    • Profile picture of the author ilikepie
      Originally Posted by heintje View Post

      Google will only be 'regulated' when Bing and Yahoo get their act together and increase their market share
      Problem is that to many people with shitty quality websites try to manipulate the SERP. While others with decent quality and who behave well get a minimum amount of visitors. But let's be honest almost everyone on this forum manipulates the SERP (or at least is trying it). So I don't understand why people complain. When you play with fire you get sometimes burned, you knew you were taking (some) risk..
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    • Profile picture of the author bryguy
      Or once webby builds the next dominant search engine and then ensures that others properly regulate him...

      Originally Posted by heintje View Post

      Google will only be 'regulated' when Bing and Yahoo get their act together and increase their market share
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  • Profile picture of the author chandan_dutta
    Technology is evolving too fast and we should be able to adopt new changes. Anyway, if a business depends only on Google, then that can't be said a long-term and successful business strategy. Last Google update [April 2012] affected me too and I was really disappointed that time. But not anymore!

    There are so many online business out there who doesn't depend on Google at all. Forget about SEO..
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  • Profile picture of the author ilikepie
    Originally Posted by webby0031 View Post

    Google needs to be regulated in someway now because

    1. They have too much influence over the world .

    2. They generate revenue by manipulating search engines for there benefit, caring more about money than how it helps the public ( i actually thought more about this one, maybe thats a little harsh )

    3. They exploit UK and other tax laws.

    I know you are going to give me all this they area compnay BS and I agree.. but its a massive part of society now and they should be regulated.
    1. Which big company has not big influences? That is what you get when you are big.

    2. You talk about manipulating, something what 99 percent of the users of this board also do. Manipulating the SERP by building backlinks or something else which has influence on the SERP (e.g. social websites).

    3. Define exploit? They pay low tax on a certain income which is 100 percent legal. If you should blame someone for this then you should blame the government(s). Instead of working together and improving society they create chaos.

    I assume your websites got hit by the recent updates. But I bet you violated the Google guidelines which a pretty clear. When you get caught, yeah that sucks but you knew the risk certainly if you aim only on organic traffic. No need to cry or to be outraged against people like Cutts. Like he is personally responsible for all Google doings.
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Webby? You also have the feeling that the whole world is against you?

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  • Profile picture of the author sarged2
    Google should throw away all their shit algos, and make an auction for their search results. So depending on competition we could rent a certain serp position for a query. Then mix up the results with some official and verified websites, like wikipedia and other bullsh. That would instantly kill all the spammers, and get them billions of bucks. Lol These douchebags actually need to admit that ranking can and are actually being bought, and that their algos are crooked anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author TZ
    Originally Posted by webby0031 View Post

    Google needs to be regulated in someway now because

    1. They have too much influence over the world .

    2. They generate revenue by manipulating search engines for there benefit, caring more about money than how it helps the public ( i actually thought more about this one, maybe thats a little harsh )

    3. They exploit UK and other tax laws.

    I know you are going to give me all this they area compnay BS and I agree.. but its a massive part of society now and they should be regulated.
    Nah......you need to be regulated
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    It's funny that every single person on this forum wants to be successful with their own business, yet when sites like Google or Microsoft are successful (for the most part) some people jump on them like it's a witch hunt.

    Look around at all the Google failures, they've blown multi million dollar budgets to test things over the years. Googles success didn't happen by accident.

    I guess it's just another Google did me wrong thread, because the average person on the web doesn't have a problem with anything Google does.
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Although I hate web spam and really dont care when peoples crappy sites are dropped.... uhhh, I do agree with the OP.

      Regulation does need to happen with the big G.

      They are too powerful and if they decide you are in competition with them they can de rank or even de list your site.

      I have heard a few stories where both they and their other companies (YT) have done things like this.

      Regulation has already started in EU Google deal with EU regulates search results – report — Tech News and Analysis
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by goindeep View Post

        Although I hate web spam and really dont care when peoples crappy sites are dropped.... uhhh, I do agree with the OP.

        Regulation does need to happen with the big G.
        So be the first guy to step up.

        Start blocking Google traffic to your sites, all you have to do is place a noindex HTML tag in your site-wide header.

        Your assuming Google is all the worlds web traffic, when in reality Google is a fraction of the traffic on the web.
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        • Profile picture of the author goindeep
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          So be the first guy to step up.

          Start blocking Google traffic to your sites, all you have to do is place a noindex HTML tag in your site-wide header.

          Your assuming Google is all the worlds net traffic, when in reality Google is a fraction of the traffic on the web.
          Im not so sure I understand what you are saying.

          Please explain.
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by goindeep View Post

            Im not so sure I understand what you are saying.

            Please explain.
            I'm saying you don't have to wait for some countries Gov. to spank Google, when you have complete control over the traffic Google sends to your own sites. Regulate Google by blocking Google traffic, that'll show them you serious about them having too much control over the web.
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            • Profile picture of the author goindeep
              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              I'm saying you don't have to wait for some countries Gov. to spank Google, when you have complete control over the traffic Google sends to your own sites. Regulate Google by blocking Google traffic, that'll show them you serious about them having too much control over the web.
              Interesting...

              Maybe we should have a google free day where all web marketers do this... hmmmm.

              Nah, on 2nd thoughts that wouldn't work.
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  • Profile picture of the author squadron
    I remember the days when Yahoo, Altavista and Looksmart were the most popular search engines. Google only has as much power as we give it.

    Start using a different search engine and make it your mission to tell 20 people per day: "Google is broken, use Bing." Put it in your email signature, put it on your business cards, get a t-shirt printed.

    At least you will feel a little better.
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Originally Posted by squadron View Post

      I remember the days when Yahoo, Altavista and Looksmart were the most popular search engines. Google only has as much power as we give it.

      Start using a different search engine and make it your mission to tell 20 people per day: "Google is broken, use Bing." Put it in your email signature, put it on your business cards, get a t-shirt printed.

      At least you will feel a little better.
      That would work if the other search engines didnt copy Googles listings. Lol.

      They had proven several times that when inserting fake map listings other engines would copy them.
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  • Profile picture of the author webdevpro
    Yeah it will be better if people start using an alternative to Google like Bing or similar, but unfortunately there is none that will be close to Big G in terms of relevancy in search results.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by webdevpro View Post

      Yeah it will be better if people start using an alternative to Google like Bing or similar, but unfortunately there is none that will be close to Big G in terms of relevancy in search results.
      Don't get me wrong, ghost towns (ex: Bing) are fun tourist attractions, but kinda defeat the purpose when trying to generate web traffic.
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  • ya can you please let us know whether our website has been penalized or not?
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  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    To be honest, Google doesn't care about your website unless you're paying them for Adwords.
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    • Profile picture of the author KirkMcD
      Originally Posted by smodha View Post

      To be honest, Google doesn't care about your website unless you're paying them for Adwords.
      Even then, they don't care about you.
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  • Profile picture of the author ashishthakkar
    One question: Were your sites hit?
    Maybe his/her sites weren't supposed to be hit.

    Most crappy or blackhat site owners never complain when their site gets hit coz they know why...
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by ashishthakkar View Post

      Maybe his/her sites weren't supposed to be hit.

      Most crappy or blackhat site owners never complain when their site gets hit coz they know why...
      You have got to be kidding. Last penguin update we had TON loads of people complaining even though they knew they had spammy links.
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  • Profile picture of the author dennis09
    Originally Posted by webby0031 View Post

    2. They generate revenue by manipulating search engines for there benefit, caring more about money than how it helps the public ( i actually thought more about this one, maybe thats a little harsh )
    Anybody else notice the irony in #2
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by dennis09 View Post

      Anybody else notice the irony in #2
      I am sure the OP would have had an answer to that but it would seem he himself has been - regulated.
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  • Profile picture of the author netherlands10
    Some good points here. The fact is Google is regulated to a certain extent already. What should be addressed are when such companies enter a niche with no better product, huge budgets (they can afford to lose) and force prices (and margins) to the bottom. It happens in all industries, on and offline, and it's a real concern for SMEs. The solution though, like anything else, is to build something (and hopefully patent it) which they either can't compete with or have to buy.

    Seeing as I touched on it, patent abuse (US especially) is another major issue and something Apple, Google and Samsung are grossly guilty of. Huge teams patenting all manner of things, even existing production methods, just to trip up competition and protect niches which might never even exist. Even in situations where the patent should never have been awarded, try being the SME who attempts to defend themselves against suspected patent misuse - the legal costs alone would, and do, cripple most.
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  • Profile picture of the author bluecoyotemedia
    Originally Posted by webby0031 View Post

    Google needs to be regulated in someway now because

    1. They have too much influence over the world .

    2. They generate revenue by manipulating search engines for there benefit, caring more about money than how it helps the public ( i actually thought more about this one, maybe thats a little harsh )

    3. They exploit UK and other tax laws.

    I know you are going to give me all this they area compnay BS and I agree.. but its a massive part of society now and they should be regulated.
    Webby

    it's NOT Googles Fault!!! it's the people's fault.

    why??

    All google did was use one of the most influential words in the English language

    FREE!!!

    you see the masses of people and I would even speculate you are also part of the problem is that people would do just about anything

    for FREE

    all you have to do is give up your privacy, your spending habits, basically your online presence. etc

    they have grown to todays monster because of this one main point

    they offer services for free or near free and in a short amount of time they became what it is today.

    similar to todays government
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  • Profile picture of the author inetguru_987
    Their a company who offers a free product for most of their users. They have full rights to do whatever it is they want with their product. If people don't like it then they will use another product. It is really that simple. No regulation needed, let the people regulate.

    It can be a little heart breaking when you drop in the SERPs but I have nothing but praise for Google and its users. They have made me a very rich man.
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  • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
    Originally Posted by webby0031 View Post

    Google needs to be regulated in someway now because

    1. They have too much influence over the world .

    2. They generate revenue by manipulating search engines for there benefit, caring more about money than how it helps the public ( i actually thought more about this one, maybe thats a little harsh )

    3. They exploit UK and other tax laws.

    I know you are going to give me all this they area compnay BS and I agree.. but its a massive part of society now and they should be regulated.
    1. They only have influence because they offer free services that millions of people willingly choose to use every day. As soon as someone else offers a better product, Google will lose market share.

    2. You don't know what you're talking about.

    3. I'm sure Google is only as questionable in their tax filings as every other large international company.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      What's funny, is that google is regulated. By the feds and the
      state of California. Regulated heavily. Also by the EU, China, etc.

      But so is MS, apple, samsung, and others. They all pay heavy fines, get
      sued, have more regulations imposed,...

      As soon as you people realize that google is a huge, highly respected,
      cost efficient, well run, publicly held company, that has the best and
      brightest people working for them, the better.

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