Forum Signatures are dangerous..

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It is true that Google SLAP forums signature links.

I already added my link (to my SEO site) to my signature here, and I often see drops when I do new posts over here, I didn't mind that and I thought it is just Google dance, but I experienced it about thrice. Then I removed my signature and participate here... then no changes on my ranks.

Anyhow, after latest penguin 2.0, I wanted to test and added my signature link, within 2-3 days, my ranks were dropped to over 5-8 pages from PAGE 2.

So, it is clear proof same as Google webmaster tool example, the FORUMS SIGNATURE links are being considered as SPAM by Google, even that is related to Niche or not.
#dangerous #forum #signatures
  • Profile picture of the author squadron
    Originally Posted by Theeban View Post

    So, it is clear proof same as Google webmaster tool example, the FORUMS SIGNATURE links are being considered as SPAM by Google, even that is related to Niche or not.
    Sounds like a great source of links for negative SEO !
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  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    Forum signatures are a brilliant source of targeted traffic and that's what I use it for. The problem is (and I see this across many forums) people over-optimize their signatures and that's a violation of Google's ToS. Signatures like "Foreclosure Miami", "Houston Real Estate" etc. will incur the unnatural links penalty.
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    • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
      Originally Posted by smodha View Post

      Forum signatures are a brilliant source of targeted traffic and that's what I use it for. The problem is (and I see this across many forums) people over-optimize their signatures and that's a violation of Google's ToS. Signatures like "Foreclosure Miami", "Houston Real Estate" etc. will incur the unnatural links penalty.
      Maybe I'm brain dead because of the hour, but I don't quite get what you mean by over optimized.

      I don't see the difference "My Stunning Apartment!" vs. "Foreclosure Miami" or "Houston Real Estate"
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      • Profile picture of the author smodha
        Originally Posted by RobinInTexas View Post

        Maybe I'm brain dead because of the hour, but I don't quite get what you mean by over optimized.

        I don't see the difference "My Stunning Apartment!" vs. "Foreclosure Miami" or "Houston Real Estate"
        The difference is that "My Stunning Apartment!" isn't the keyword I'm ranking for. In fact, I'm not ranking for any keyword - I'm purely utilizing WF traffic.

        There's more info here...

        "Forum comments with optimized links in the post or signature, for example:
        Thanks, that’s great info!
        - Paul
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    • Profile picture of the author Backlinko
      Originally Posted by smodha View Post

      Forum signatures are a brilliant source of targeted traffic and that's what I use it for. The problem is (and I see this across many forums) people over-optimize their signatures and that's a violation of Google's ToS. Signatures like "Foreclosure Miami", "Houston Real Estate" etc. will incur the unnatural links penalty.
      Totally this.

      Most people have an anchor text link to a completely unrelated site. Doesn't look remotely natural.

      Not to mention that forum signature links are worthless from an SEO perspective (even from related forums). But they're great for targeted traffic
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      • Profile picture of the author zon27
        One of my competitors backlink data is filled with backlinks from relevant forum posts. and his website is unaffected after penguin update and increasing in rank.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hansons
    The main benefit of signature link is getting traffic, instant traffic as well.

    It helps in SEO too if you are using quality forums and you aren not creating too many posts in one day.

    It helps in building brand name of your business too.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Really, an SEO Consultant/Specialist asking about forum sig. links? :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author smodha
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Really, an SEO Consultant/Specialist asking about forum sig. links? :rolleyes:
      And a VA. I'd be worried if he was working for me...
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    People should do their own testing.

    I added 'The Academy of IM Excellence" to my sig and home page. That's a non-competitive search term. I rank.

    If sigs were being 'penalized' I wouldn't rank, right?
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  • Profile picture of the author run
    I need traffic. Forum Signatures are something that Google might overlook (don't care), that's just my guess (I might blame at this), but I don't think Google hates forum signatures that bad as soon as the signatures in a relevance one. Blasting forum profiles with signatures everywhere by using automatic softs or manually done, will be consider spam in my opinion. Not include the benefit of targeted traffic!
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    I just wanna tell you that most of the links in the signature are trash and/or a trap to make you pay!
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  • Profile picture of the author SASA Techno
    Forum signature is use best because visitors landing in your page that's link so when ever use a signature with keyword so in search engine your keyword rank also increasing.
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  • Profile picture of the author rakhi2012
    I think yes , I agree with you but without signature how to create quality of backlinks ?
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    • Profile picture of the author GodMode52
      Originally Posted by SASA Techno View Post

      Forum signature is use best because visitors landing in your page that's link so when ever use a signature with keyword so in search engine your keyword rank also increasing.
      Originally Posted by rakhi2012 View Post

      I think yes , I agree with you but without signature how to create quality of backlinks ?
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  • Profile picture of the author jaisonjohn
    Natural type pattern link that includes your keyword i.e. means having a sentence with keywords and link to the same in such a manner that looks natural for Google instead of just having keywords with links.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by jaisonjohn View Post

      Natural type pattern link that includes your keyword i.e. means having a sentence with keywords and link to the same in such a manner that looks natural for Google instead of just having keywords with links.
      Yeah, like having links to a bingo website on an internet marketing forum. Completely natural. :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author smodha
      Originally Posted by jaisonjohn View Post

      Natural type pattern link that includes your keyword i.e. means having a sentence with keywords and link to the same in such a manner that looks natural for Google instead of just having keywords with links.
      You haven't learnt anything I told you from your previous post about forum signatures...
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  • Profile picture of the author apnavarun
    I also use signature links but I do not post too many. I didn't find any bad impact till now but sometime my traffic increases. ( although no evidence). Google might see different sites differently.
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  • Profile picture of the author hirechrisgunn
    You've got to weigh the situation. How much does Google actually penalize you because of your spammy forum signatures, and what kind of traffic are you seeing come to your site. The whole point of being on a forum is to learn about others in the same niche, and the signature line is just another way of adding to the blend of resources. Until I know that it's penalizing me beyond the traffic that comes to my sites, then I'm not concerned.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulgl
    Google does not hate sig links. Not sure why anyone would believe that. If you do, you just do not read what google publishes. Seems to be an epidemic. Wht google says about sig links, is that they detest over-optimized sig links. I assume that means ANY link, actually, that is over-optimized. That's what they said about anchor text. Not that you need varied text, which everyone went gaga over. What is over-optimized?

    Most best fantastic wii game revies that are number one in the galaxy

    Cause and effect are so mixed up here on the WF from time to time.
    I made all the signals this morning on my way to Staples. I just got
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Irrelevant links are the best, keep up the great work.

    Google knows all Warrior Forum members are looking for bingo, wallpaper, & cell phone covers.

    Anyone have a recipe link for stuffed pork chops? Anyone? Bueller?
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    • Profile picture of the author markwillson400
      Forums Signatures are the best source for getting backlink if we get from high authority forums...but it's not dangerous...According to me create a good profile in every high authority & after that create signature..It'll beneficial for your website..Am I right guys?? Reply me??
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  • Profile picture of the author patco
    Targetted traffic is the thing people are looking for when they use forum signatures. Having a signature could NOT get your website banned or blacklisted otherwise I could quickly "ban" my competitors! It will only help your website get a higher ranking if the backlink is do-follow and if the forum is related to the thing promoted...
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  • I must agree about forum signatures not really bad for G ranking. I think the same rule applies to all sites you placed your backlinks to- do not over optimize your links. And yes, forums should be considered one of the sites you get direct traffic from and not build backlinks.
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  • i strongly believe that forum signatures helps very much in ranking, i have tried i myself for many of my clients and everytime i get very quick rankings
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    • Profile picture of the author smodha
      Originally Posted by kilobytestechnologies View Post

      i strongly believe that forum signatures helps very much in ranking, i have tried i myself for many of my clients and everytime i get very quick rankings
      So you don't think your signature is over-optimized and violates Google's ToS?
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Bradley
        Originally Posted by smodha View Post

        So you don't think your signature is over-optimized and violates Google's ToS?
        Perhaps he should be more concerned that his user name/company name has a bollock in it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
    Well, this is a great way we use forum signature for the purpose of getting more quick traffic to our site and to promote our products here. I don't find it that bad for google to consider it as spammy.
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  • Profile picture of the author PaidAllDay
    I think the point of a signature is not to increase your SEO but to promote to the people that read your posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author engagedotscrm
    I too heard about this news long before.
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  • Profile picture of the author lennyk1313
    Targeted traffic is what the signature is primarily used for. Just don't over-optimize it, and you should be fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChevyCam
    Does google bot even can see the difference between example - link in post body and signature link? I think it can't see a difference...
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  • Profile picture of the author Dead Body
    no doubt quality of forum link is low but they are not penalised by Google ever.
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  • Profile picture of the author coolomi
    Building Forum's signature links in bulk with same anchor text is really hurts. Quality and relevance does matter.
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    • Profile picture of the author PROmotions LLC
      Originally Posted by coolomi View Post

      Building Forum's signature links in bulk with same anchor text is really hurts. Quality and relevance does matter.
      This is a tough habit to break. On forums, your signature should be written for humans, not search engines.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joebrown
    if you spam it long and hard youll eventually see negative outcomes.

    but if you really use the profile, it doesnt really matter. Im in a lot of forums and I have signatures for them in those markets. I guess its just counted as a sitewide link
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  • Profile picture of the author PROmotions LLC
    I am going to chime in here again because ALOT of people are attracted to this thread due to the name "Forum Signatures are Dangerous." Forum signatures are not dangerous if used correctly. If you are making signatures for backlinks, they are very dangerous. If you are using them for direct traffic, they are the opposite of dangerous. Before you read on please bare in mind MY SIGNATURE is written the way I wanted to write it and what works best for me:

    Forum Signature That Will Drop Your Rankings:

    Buy Snacks | Cheap Snacks | Buy Cheap Snacks | Snacks Buy | Snacks | Purchase Snacks

    Notice it is just a bunch of "Keywords" in a row with dividers.

    Forum Signature That Might Help Your Rankings & Direct Traffic:

    Click Here to get great snacks!
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    • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
      Originally Posted by PROmotions LLC View Post

      I am going to chime in here again because ALOT of people are attracted to this thread due to the name "Forum Signatures are Dangerous." Forum signatures are not dangerous if used correctly. If you are making signatures for backlinks, they are very dangerous. If you are using them for direct traffic, they are the opposite of dangerous. Before you read on please bare in mind MY SIGNATURE is written the way I wanted to write it and what works best for me:

      Forum Signature That Will Drop Your Rankings:

      Buy Snacks | Cheap Snacks | Buy Cheap Snacks | Snacks Buy | Snacks | Purchase Snacks

      Notice it is just a bunch of "Keywords" in a row with dividers.

      Forum Signature That Might Help Your Rankings & Direct Traffic:

      Click Here to get great snacks!
      You're definitely a budding expert on flashing forum signatures. That's over 120 posts since you joined a few days ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author PROmotions LLC
    3 Days ago, and only slept once LOL. WF is addicting. I am no "Flashing Forum Signature Expert"
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  • Profile picture of the author shanrocks1985
    I think of you get forum signature link from popular forum like warriorforum , there will not be any harm and google will consider as Quality link
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  • Profile picture of the author paulbutler
    A few sig links a day fine. I believe the red flag comes up when google sees hundreds of links in sigs pop up within a day that you may get penalized.
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  • Profile picture of the author dudeco
    Forum sigs do not cause bad SEO, unless it is a frowned upon site or a "bad neighborhood". Again, Penguin is all about "relevance, relevance, relevance", so as long as those links are within your reasonable realm of relevance, you are fine. As for how MUCH link juice they provide? That is the bigger question...
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    If you're going to direct members to 'click the link in your sig' this is what they'll see.
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