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Magic Submitter Captcha Costs

by TomBuck
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I have had magic submitter for a few weeks and I like the software and its all good, but I'm going through captchas so fast! I have around 5/6 sites on campaigns and about 2/3 client sites which means the scheduler is pretty much maxed, but the problem is I brought 5k captchas from deathbycaptcha and went through them in 2 days and I think I must be going through 3k a day if not more.

How can I cut my captcha costs? I think DBC is cheap but don't want to be spending $3+ a day just on captchas.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    Link spamming is expensive.
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    • Profile picture of the author TomBuck
      Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

      Link spamming is expensive.
      Classic.....

      Does GSA Captcha breaker work with MS? I've heard really good things about it. Though I've never used it myself.
      I don't think so. Of the options on MS I think it was the cheapest but I'm just surprised how expensive its becoming. Im not link spamming but MS is my main promotion technique so its runs for all my sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
        Originally Posted by TomBuck View Post

        Classic.....



        I don't think so. Of the options on MS I think it was the cheapest but I'm just surprised how expensive its becoming. Im not link spamming but MS is my main promotion technique so its runs for all my sites.
        'Spamming' is too strong of a word. You're placing links on sites which allow you to place links on them. The trouble is, these are very low quality website and hundreds of other webmasters are putting links there too.

        What happens after a month or so is, the linking pages get de-indexed. You keep dropping links, which causes you to build more and more. It's a cycle. The whole time you'll be paying out the nose for 'Captcha solving' and the results will keep declining.

        At that point you'll realize the futility of it all and look for other tactics.
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        • Profile picture of the author TomBuck
          Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

          'Spamming' is too strong of a word. You're placing links on sites which allow you to place links on them. The trouble is, these are very low quality website and hundreds of other webmasters are putting links there too.

          What happens after a month or so is, the linking pages get de-indexed. You keep dropping links, which causes you to build more and more. It's a cycle. The whole time you'll be paying out the nose for 'Captcha solving' and the results will keep declining.

          At that point you'll realize the futility of it all and look for other tactics.
          Fair enough points but not all of the pages will get de indexed, if its unique content why is it going to get de indexed?

          Also this is one of the only types of SEO promotion you can automate, you can't automate "begging" for links off webmasters or real blog commenting can you. I'm a huge advocate of few relevant high quality links, but this method is difficult to do and I only have one site which is currently doing it. It is a successful site but due to the nature of the promotion its impossible to promote all of my sites that way. The next best thing, is automation!
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          • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
            Originally Posted by TomBuck View Post

            Fair enough points but not all of the pages will get de indexed, if its unique content why is it going to get de indexed?

            Also this is one of the only types of SEO promotion you can automate, you can't automate "begging" for links off webmasters or real blog commenting can you. I'm a huge advocate of few relevant high quality links, but this method is difficult to do and I only have one site which is currently doing it. It is a successful site but due to the nature of the promotion its impossible to promote all of my sites that way. The next best thing, is automation!
            I've been there, done that, and bought the T-Shirt. I personally dropped Magic Submitter because of the monthly price and the Captcha solving costs. The benefits were minimal.

            But you gotta do what you gotta do If it's working, then the costs will be worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    Does GSA Captcha breaker work with MS? I've heard really good things about it. Though I've never used it myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    If creating a 1000 links for, lets say $5.
    Is not making a return on investment. Well...

    Those junk links have just spoken for themselves.
    The whole takes too long thing is wrong too. I'm ranking pages in high comp 60k search+ markets, with 20-30 links. No problem.
    It's just that 1 of my links. Are probably worth 44,874 times more than one of my competitors links. And I only build about 10 of them a day, so it doesn't take too long at all.
    If you really want to go that way and use software on a budget. Try using one of the SEO vps providers, who have built in software and free captcha decoding.
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    • Profile picture of the author TomBuck
      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      If creating a 1000 links for, lets say $5.
      Is not making a return on investment. Well...

      Those junk links have just spoken for themselves.
      The whole takes too long thing is wrong too. I'm ranking pages in high comp 60k search+ markets, with 20-30 links. No problem.
      It's just that 1 of my links. Are probably worth 44,874 times more than one of my competitors links. And I only build about 10 of them a day, so it doesn't take too long at all.
      If you really want to go that way and use software on a budget. Try using one of the SEO vps providers, who have built in software and free captcha decoding.
      And these 20-30 links cost how much? Ranking for 60k competition with only 30 links? TEACH ME BROOOOO........ Or was that a slight exaggerating VPS.?
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Originally Posted by TomBuck View Post

        And these 20-30 links cost how much? Ranking for 60k competition with only 30 links? TEACH ME BROOOOO........ Or was that a slight exaggerating VPS.?
        They have never really cost me anything, but time in developing the technique. To be honest the 30 was an exaggeration. It normally takes a lot less. I don't spend that much time counting to be honest, but the numbers of good links needed to rank for anything really, can be very low.

        And I'm not here to teach you that kind of stuff. I could set a $5000 an hour rate if you want, with a 200 hour minimum training period. Cash upfront for the full course.
        But again to be honest. probably even that rate wouldn't really tempt me to disclose anything I do.

        The point is, start making "good links" instead of churning out 10s of thousands of shitty ones.
        The second point is. If your de-captcha bills are running so high that its having a significant impact on your monthly SEO budget. Than your building the wrong links, in the wrong market, for the wrong website.
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    • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
      Originally Posted by serprider View Post

      I installed magic submitter on my vps at bhsvps.com ... they have their own captcha cracking service for free with subscription... just gotta have a licensed copy of the software and use their bypass captcha or DBC key. I get around 75-80% success rate and I don't have to pay a dime.
      Your signature file leads directly to 'BHS Solutions' with no affiliate code. That sort of makes it look like that's your site.
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    • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
      Originally Posted by serprider View Post

      I am not an affiliate but I am also not the owner. Just a customer who promotes the site when I can... It is a good value thought why the heck not help them out a bit... Was just suggesting them to the OP.. He does not have to check it out that is his choice.
      I see. You're a customer who has added their service to your sig file. Not too many customers like that
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      • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
        Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

        I see. You're a customer who has added their service to your sig file. Not too many customers like that
        Wow!! An actual natural link that Google wants!! Well, maybe not that link, but, you know .. if you think about it, it's almost an irony!
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        • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
          Originally Posted by jinx1221 View Post

          Wow!! An actual natural link that Google wants!! Well, maybe not that link, but, you know .. if you think about it, it's almost an irony!
          Indeed it is ironic. A spam VPS service getting a 'natural link' from a satisfied customer. This is one for the 'I wasn't born Yesterday' files
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            Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

            Indeed it is ironic. A spam VPS service getting a 'natural link' from a satisfied customer. This is one for the 'I wasn't born Yesterday' files
            Well, you know what they say, white is the new black
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            • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
              Originally Posted by serprider View Post

              So what your trying to say is that one of your customers who was satisfied would not spread word of your services? I thought that was how businesses grew? I guess back in what circa 1992 everyone used and affiliate link to promote their business Maybe you expect to get paid for promoting a service or business you recommend to others. You must be that guy who walks into a restaurant... "Excuse me I sent my friends in here to eat the other week because you have the best Bison Sliders I have ever tasted!... I would like my $3.99 commission please." I accept Skrill and LR .
              Obviously you have a vested interest in pushing this 'service.' A quick look at your posting history indicates that.

              You've been called out - everyone can see you for what you are - now give it a rest before you look even sillier than you already do.

              Nobody in this world is excited about 'a Black Hat VPS' LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author igl0w
    captcha costs can kill one.. use CB or CS..
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Captcha Breaker does work with Magic Submitter, they've got instructions available.
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    bhsvps.com runs their captcha service with magic submitter..
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  • Profile picture of the author johnbrown12
    In this way,Spamming will be very expensive
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  • Profile picture of the author newtonguywoodiii
    You did a good job there. There are so many individuals who would be willing to be your captcha data entry staff. If you want a cheaper rate, then I suggest you hire an outsourcing company or an independent contractor from India, Philippines and Vietnam. Their rates are relatively low compared to the rates in the first-world countries.
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