Who said SEO dead / Link Building dead?

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Dear Friends at Warrior Forum,
I just created a testing wordpress blog and created say 5 post on it and then did a few link building with tiered link building concept and i got results like this screenshot as follows:



So this post to clear few doubts:
1. Tiered link building still works.
2. Web 2.0 blogs still works fine.
3. Even I ranked a EMD sub domain too
4. Link building and SEO still works...

Compeition was medium on this keyword too so not low competition...

My ranks got up from nearby 400 to 25 in just 2-3 weeks time only...

I just shared this live screenshot of yesterday time itself due to time zone difference otherwise screenshot was taken just few hours back

My this post is dedicated to them whoever have had any animal update and are scared that link building or SEO is dead now.. No its not dead just you need to be smarter dont pust 1000s of links direct to your main site or site which you want to rank

Hope this will encourage many of my friends at Warrior Forum too...
Have my best respect...
#building #dead #link #seo
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    Good job man!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexzeto
      Fast but not safe,backlinks will always work until the next Penguin update,you can have the same results just adding high quality content to your blog.

      After penguin 3.0 could you update this thread ?
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by Alexzeto View Post

        Fast but not safe,backlinks will always work until the next Penguin update,you can have the same results just adding high quality content to your blog.

        After penguin 3.0 could you update this thread ?
        Ok. Go rank for "health insurance" by doing nothing but "adding high quality content to your blog". Let us know how that works out for you.
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        • Profile picture of the author Lokahi
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          Ok. Go rank for "health insurance" by doing nothing but "adding high quality content to your blog". Let us know how that works out for you.
          It's not very difficult to rank high in Google search for low competition long tail keywords. But, as you suggested, intensely competitive keywords (such as 'health insurance') would be nearly impossible to rank high for, with just content alone. However, the quality of backlinks is still most important. Mass backlinks from irrelevant or low value sites will almost always get you penalized.
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          • Profile picture of the author andishm
            Originally Posted by boosters View Post

            I am doing the same job only remember use unique content on tier 1 and blast your tier 1 with shitty links as a tier 2... that's it.
            Yes my vote goes to something similar Tiered link building. Personally my vote goes to "Money Robot Submitter" for the same... a new but really great software to work with.

            Originally Posted by igl0w View Post

            SEO is dead = its hard to do now for many people
            Yes, well said... You are absolutely right its hard to many people but not dead.

            Originally Posted by Lokahi View Post

            It's not very difficult to rank high in Google search for low competition long tail keywords. But, as you suggested, intensely competitive keywords (such as 'health insurance') would be nearly impossible to rank high for, with just content alone. However, the quality of backlinks is still most important. Mass backlinks from irrelevant or low value sites will almost always get you penalized.
            Yup, relevant and quality of links matters...
            Well said... Mass backlink to moeny site directly mean spam death of that site nowadays...
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      • Profile picture of the author andishm
        Originally Posted by Alexzeto View Post

        Fast but not safe,backlinks will always work until the next Penguin update,you can have the same results just adding high quality content to your blog.

        After penguin 3.0 could you update this thread ?
        I am waiting for any penguin version to eat this wordpress blog they cannot right now. I have spend more than 7-8 yrs. time in SEO and have seen all updates etc etc.... I just done this case study as a motivation for others to not to give up with SEO

        I just see a lots of threads in Warrior Forum saying SEO dead / Link building dead i just want to have some positive energy for all my friends at Warrior Forum showing them live what i did they can also do the same...

        I have created only a few 80 Tier1 links and they are 50% full of generic links and rest LSI only 10% say Main keyword so welcome any animal update anytime
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  • Profile picture of the author Hossain
    Even old straight forward link wheels are still working. Nowadays no need to release new Algo updates/filters. Just give a fake announcement in Matt's blog that google is unfolding a new update within next 1 week or so. Bang! Folks will start claiming they are experiencing rank loss. Some will start claiming web 2.0s are now dead article directories are now dead blah bla bla. And here in WF we will start seeing threads like "SEO is dead, now What??"










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  • Profile picture of the author seekdefo
    It works man. I have my own case studies to prove that. Btw good job
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    • Profile picture of the author bryan012
      SEO will not dead, it will be just more tough, more competitive and more technical.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Position #25 most likely gets the same amount of traffic as position #400.
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    • Profile picture of the author andishm
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Position #25 most likely gets the same amount of traffic as position #400.
      Respected Senior Member Yukon,
      I will not have traffic until I have top 5 or say top 3 ranks with me. I will keep updated with the latest screenshots to share the new updates of as soon as ranks improve as my SEO Work still going on and i am not finished with my tiered link building yet..

      So I am hopeful that it shall be in top 5 or top 3 soon say in 1 week or so...
      Rest we see it soon too... How it goes...
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  • Profile picture of the author ashvinpeerbits
    great job , but seo will not die, but google is very strict about content so don't use spinning content, use only fresh and quality content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Concepteurs
    In internet marketing links are most important thing, which is help connect other network and passed link juice to previous network. So, how could be possible SEO is dead. Optimization and marketing over search engine are made for each other and never fails. They weave always links back.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexzeto
      Originally Posted by Concepteurs View Post

      In internet marketing links are most important thing, which is help connect other network and passed link juice to previous network. So, how could be possible SEO is dead. Optimization and marketing over search engine are made for each other and never fails. They weave always links back.
      Good luck thinking that links are most important,forget about the content,website user friendly,forget everything right ?

      Links will pass link juice,link juice will make your page get PageRank,and that is all !!!

      By the way,pagerank dont mean &$@-$&@ !

      Pages wirh PR 0 outrank pages with PR 6 all the time...
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      • Profile picture of the author andishm
        Originally Posted by Hossain View Post

        Even old straight forward link wheels are still working. Nowadays no need to release new Algo updates/filters. Just give a fake announcement in Matt's blog that google is unfolding a new update within next 1 week or so. Bang! Folks will start claiming they are experiencing rank loss. Some will start claiming web 2.0s are now dead article directories are now dead blah bla bla. And here in WF we will start seeing threads like "SEO is dead, now What??"
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        Well said... I agree... That is why i created this post to have some positive energy why we feel that scared when things are still working


        Originally Posted by seekdefo View Post

        It works man. I have my own case studies to prove that. Btw good job
        Thanks.... Yes SEO and link building still works well.


        Originally Posted by bryan012 View Post

        SEO will not dead, it will be just more tough, more competitive and more technical.
        Yes, SEO is more technical task now days are gone when you blast 100000 links and boom you get rank. I did this with just SEO software used and thats it... Even only created a few links only on tier1 to not to have too many spammy links

        Originally Posted by ashvinpeerbits View Post

        great job , but seo will not die, but google is very strict about content so don't use spinning content, use only fresh and quality content.
        Sorry, but unique article if spun properly still work in my view... Say you want to submit to 60 web 2.0 blogs then I dont think its practically possible to have 60 hand written articles for them... But spun shall be good quality...

        Originally Posted by Concepteurs View Post

        In internet marketing links are most important thing, which is help connect other network and passed link juice to previous network. So, how could be possible SEO is dead. Optimization and marketing over search engine are made for each other and never fails. They weave always links back.
        Search engines take breath via links so yes links will still work and will work

        Originally Posted by davethompson View Post

        Good Job its a clear slap on those people who says that seo is dead and it has no future but i want to tell them that Internet Market is the biggest market in the world and the SEO business will increase day by day.
        My main motive to create this thread is the same to have some positive energy spread out so that people who see SEO dead and can see that no SEO still works and just we need to be smarter now...

        Originally Posted by Alexzeto View Post

        Good luck thinking that links are most important,forget about the content,website user friendly,forget everything right ?

        Links will pass link juice,link juice will make your page get PageRank,and that is all !!!

        By the way,pagerank dont mean &$@-$&@ !

        Pages wirh PR 0 outrank pages with PR 6 all the time...
        I agree quality content is ++++ but without good amount of quality backlinks even quality content itself cannot do anything good atleast in high competition keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author andy1234
    Hi
    Looking good, and I have to say that I get similar results...even without link building
    Would be interesting to know how competitive keywords you target?
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  • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
    Yes, SEO (link building) is NOT dead! You need to be persistent in link building and not get discouraged if you don't see the good result in the SEO game.

    If you are lazy in the link building effort, you can hire someone do it for yours.
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    Good job for actually testing something rather than just listening to advice or worse, doing nothing at all and being stuck in a limbo
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    SEO is dead = its hard to do now for many people
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    • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
      Originally Posted by igl0w View Post

      SEO is dead = its hard to do now for many people
      Unfortunately there is some truth to that point of view.

      The talented and experienced still have the upper hand and many have evolved, but for the guy that was caught on the bottom of the food chain it's a tough, cold world in link-based SEO.

      There's still plenty of things out there that work however. It's just a matter of finding or affording them.

      Fortunately it almost forces new marketers to build a real 'tool set' for marketing and learn things like conversion optimization and some copywriting early on in their career.

      That's only a good thing in my point of view because many 'marketers' had really just become professional link builders with very few other marketing assets to use.

      I particularly feel with that scenario because it was a weakness of mine that I have had to work diligently to improve upon.
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    I really don't care for anything but top 10 positions. You are also talking about nothing but one site. I am definitely not saying backlinking does not help. I have seen on MANY sites, that it does, but position #25 on a random keyword tells you nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author boosters
    I am doing the same job only remember use unique content on tier 1 and blast your tier 1 with shitty links as a tier 2... that's it.
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  • Profile picture of the author andishm
    Just an quick update ranking on 14th right now for the same keyword...
    Will keep forum updated on the same...
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    • Profile picture of the author hipeopo02
      Originally Posted by andishm View Post

      Just an quick update ranking on 14th right now for the same keyword...
      Will keep forum updated on the same...
      unless I am reading that graph wrong your keyword gets 3 figure searchs a month?

      just let us know when you rank at least 3rd
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      • Profile picture of the author andishm
        Originally Posted by hipeopo02 View Post

        unless I am reading that graph wrong your keyword gets 3 figure searchs a month?

        just let us know when you rank at least 3rd
        It is the competition of SERP top 10 which matters more than searches per month to have harder to rank or not ....and there shall be no surprise to the same.

        As said its a medium competition keyword. Sorry the thread have nothing to sell. It is created with a motive to help others to ensure SEO still works..

        Or if anybody interested in how i did it then too most welcome... thats it...
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        • Profile picture of the author Shift5
          Good job,SEO is not dead. You should just need to be smart on getting quality links.
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        • Profile picture of the author hipeopo02
          Originally Posted by andishm View Post

          It is the competition of SERP top 10 which matters more than searches per month to have harder to rank or not ....and there shall be no surprise to the same.
          ok. lets both compete for nothing and see how much that is worth.

          being on page 2 for a word that gets 20 mil searches a month is not the same as being on page 2 for a word that gets 500 searches a month.

          I'm saying you might be shooting up in rank so fast because there is nothing really to gain unless you are in those top few spots. G knows this.
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          • Profile picture of the author andishm
            Originally Posted by hipeopo02 View Post

            ok. lets both compete for nothing and see how much that is worth.

            being on page 2 for a word that gets 20 mil searches a month is not the same as being on page 2 for a word that gets 500 searches a month.

            I'm saying you might be shooting up in rank so fast because there is nothing really to gain unless you are in those top few spots. G knows this.
            Why not you made a case study similar to motivate others and make 20 million search page 1 or say top 3 would be very nice... Very soon once the site is top ranked in top 3 I will show may be my traffic / earnings too why not...

            This thread is made with a motive of passing positive energy that link building and SEO both still works and dont get in nervous that things are dying in seo now...

            Thats it... Have my full respect being a friend in Warrior forum
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            • Profile picture of the author hipeopo02
              Originally Posted by andishm View Post

              soon once the site is top ranked in top 3 I will show may be my traffic / earnings
              I would have just waited until then and then your case could be better presented.
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              • Profile picture of the author andishm
                Originally Posted by hipeopo02 View Post

                I would have just waited until then and then your case could be better presented.
                Thanks for showing interest, surely I will update the thread with more updates a soon as more achievements reached and results of the same too, as required.
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  • Profile picture of the author A S M
    Good job .. keep it up ! ... what linking method you using ? you got a network ?
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    • Profile picture of the author andishm
      Originally Posted by BizDevSolutions View Post

      Good job .. keep it up ! ... what linking method you using ? you got a network ?
      In my view private high pr personal blog network required only when you need to make any high competition keyword fight

      For this medium competition keyword I used tiered link building using Money Robot software

      Web 2.0 on tier1 and then rest kind of links on tier2... Wait for 2 weeks and results are with me.. I am just waiting to finish tier 2 and I believe it will end up with good results may be top 3

      This is not the first time i worked with tiered link building so quite sure that it must end up with some good results
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      • Profile picture of the author emigre
        Originally Posted by andishm View Post

        In my view private high pr personal blog network required only when you need to make any high competition keyword fight

        For this medium competition keyword I used tiered link building using Money Robot software

        Web 2.0 on tier1 and then rest kind of links on tier2... Wait for 2 weeks and results are with me.. I am just waiting to finish tier 2 and I believe it will end up with good results may be top 3

        This is not the first time i worked with tiered link building so quite sure that it must end up with some good results
        If you don't mind sharing, around how many Web 2.0s did you do, and were they for your sites' inner page or split with homepage and inner page. Tks.
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        • Profile picture of the author robinmymbd
          Recently I Ranked a Medium competition Keyword by ONLY Web2.0 Submission & Some Social Share.

          I just follow this & get ranked
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        • Profile picture of the author andishm
          Originally Posted by emigre View Post

          If you don't mind sharing, around how many Web 2.0s did you do, and were they for your sites' inner page or split with homepage and inner page. Tks.
          Ofcourse you shall never build backlinks to homepage only, so nodoubt you shall build links for your inner pages as well
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        Originally Posted by andishm View Post

        In my view private high pr personal blog network required only when you need to make any high competition keyword fight

        For this medium competition keyword I used tiered link building using Money Robot software

        Web 2.0 on tier1 and then rest kind of links on tier2... Wait for 2 weeks and results are with me.. I am just waiting to finish tier 2 and I believe it will end up with good results may be top 3

        This is not the first time i worked with tiered link building so quite sure that it must end up with some good results
        is money robot really good? I get trial copy but it didn't work. after 6 hours (or more), all submission progress is 0%!! are you affiliated with money robot?
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        • Profile picture of the author andishm
          Originally Posted by setsune View Post

          is money robot really good? I get trial copy but it didn't work. after 6 hours (or more), all submission progress is 0%!! are you affiliated with money robot?
          Yes I use Money Robot, MS, SenukeX etc... It does not mean I am affiliated with all of them... I can see that Money Robot is having a decent amount of success rate as well as a good list of web 2.0 sites in it. Which is what helped me at Tier1 to get this thing done to page 1 in 2-3 weeks.

          In the past I have even written many posts about MS too, it donot mean I am affiliated with them... too... Rest in my test run i got more than 40+ web 2.0 backlinks as that time number of web 2.0 sites were less so in total i made 80 tier 1 links of web 2.0 by running 2 tasks of web 2.0 that time using Money Robot Submitter.

          It may be your internet explorer problem as Money Robot so far i know require Internet Explorer to run as they dont work with sockets so far i know... Better you talk to their support team if you have any issues with them. Sorry but this is not a Money Robot support forum thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrustedSEO
    Hi,

    All that the original post proves is that Google indexed your site. Google always favors new sites. It's referred to as a Google Honeymoon.

    Glad to see you've learned about it. This has nothing what so ever to do with proof that tiered link building still works. Though I know tiered linking works and works well, this post just doesn't prove anything.
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    • Profile picture of the author andishm
      Originally Posted by TrustedSEO View Post

      Hi,

      All that the original post proves is that Google indexed your site. Google always favors new sites. It's referred to as a Google Honeymoon.

      Glad to see you've learned about it. This has nothing what so ever to do with proof that tiered link building still works. Though I know tiered linking works and works well, this post just doesn't prove anything.
      Dear friend,
      I will have screenshot shared of ranking after 1 month too no issue, as i know what tiered link building plan i used it so we just let wait for 1 month and to confirm Honeymoon period is over or so As Honeymoon is not new name for me too... and that is not in this case as keyword ranked after indexed 14-15 days...
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    In what country is standing 25th considered being a success?
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    • Profile picture of the author andishm
      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      In what country is standing 25th considered being a success?
      I will surely share the another screenshot once its in top3/top5 for eg..
      results/traffic too
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Originally Posted by andishm View Post

        I will surely share the another screenshot once its in top3/top5 for eg..
        results/traffic too
        That does not answer my question.

        When I get a photo of Kim Kardashian bending over for me, I will surely post it too. But until then I won't post anything. Or even share my thoughts about it. I definitely wouldn't make a case study type thread about it.
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        • Profile picture of the author andishm
          Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

          That does not answer my question.

          When I get a photo of Kim Kardashian bending over for me, I will surely post it too. But until then I won't post anything. Or even share my thoughts about it. I definitely wouldn't make a case study type thread about it.
          Thank you very much... for your view and have my full respect being a senior at Warrior Forum but... It is your opinion that you dislike the idea sharing live screenshots... Every one has own opinion...

          Will soon update this thread once i have more thing to show for anyone having rank coming from 409 to 25 if that is something nothing special its everyone's own opinion but for me... after having those updates rank right now is 14th and i will soon have it posted once i am in top 3/5 or like that... Page 1...
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          • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
            Originally Posted by andishm View Post

            Thank you very much... for your view and have my full respect being a senior at Warrior Forum but... It is your opinion that you dislike the idea sharing live screenshots... Every one has own opinion...

            Will soon update this thread once i have more thing to show for anyone having rank coming from 409 to 25 if that is something nothing special its everyone's own opinion but for me... after having those updates rank right now is 14th and i will soon have it posted once i am in top 3/5 or like that... Page 1...
            I just know where your leading this thread. And it is not a good place for you to be.
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  • Profile picture of the author JackeyRoe
    Of course seo still works, the guys who said seo and link building is dead, I suppose they are so lazy and "no time" to learn seo, even do seo job.
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  • Profile picture of the author subisa852
    SEO is not dead it just that the strategy that online marketers uses now is not the same back in 2009. The strategy is keep on updating and upgrading.
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  • Profile picture of the author BennyP
    SEO won't die. What you need to focus on when building links is longevity and quality. You need links to chase you. Best place to start is getting a big social media presence. SEO and social will become further integrated, they won't kill each other off.
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    • Profile picture of the author uawizard
      A good link to have is one that you or your service provide has access to control

      2.0's are rockin it, match that with some higher pr backlnks, then further link diversification from there...

      The new SEO combines both social and backlinking, its the recipe that counts...
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  • Profile picture of the author Bent SEO
    I don't understand why everyone tries to fight the updates - why not just build top quality content and find related sites and send out quality blog post with high authority - build links the way links are naturally built instead of clamoring around after a penguin update to fix your sites.

    Hint: The penguin updates will never stop. Google will never just give up on web spam. Build quality now that will last for years.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexzeto
      Originally Posted by Bent SEO View Post

      I don't understand why everyone tries to fight the updates - why not just build top quality content and find related sites and send out quality blog post with high authority - build links the way links are naturally built instead of clamoring around after a penguin update to fix your sites.

      Hint: The penguin updates will never stop. Google will never just give up on web spam. Build quality now that will last for years.
      100% agree with you.

      SEO is not that hard,nowdays you can rank without a single backlink,just high quality content.
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      • Profile picture of the author A S M
        Originally Posted by Alexzeto View Post

        100% agree with you.

        SEO is not that hard,nowdays you can rank without a single backlink,just high quality content.


        Sure .. if your ranking a phrase like "oh ma gawd wtf is this dude posting!" ... that might be able to rank with high quality content only
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    • Profile picture of the author Irmscher
      Originally Posted by Bent SEO View Post

      I don't understand why everyone tries to fight the updates - why not just build top quality content and find related sites and send out quality blog post with high authority - build links the way links are naturally built instead of clamoring around after a penguin update to fix your sites.

      Hint: The penguin updates will never stop. Google will never just give up on web spam. Build quality now that will last for years.
      OMG, I just love people like you on the forum, I call them Google candy-kids.

      The more you spread your strategy to the public, the best for us.
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      • Profile picture of the author stevenburn
        Link Building is not dead in despite of ALL of the later upgrades by Google including this later help article edit. As I explained above, Google's whole calculation was based links and that is still the #1 factor figuring out rankings. However, the tide is absolutely altering and its clear Google is scrambling to include more calculation indicators to move far from their dependence on connections to rank websites.
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    • Profile picture of the author cedric174
      Originally Posted by Bent SEO View Post

      I don't understand why everyone tries to fight the updates - why not just build top quality content and find related sites and send out quality blog post with high authority - build links the way links are naturally built instead of clamoring around after a penguin update to fix your sites.

      Hint: The penguin updates will never stop. Google will never just give up on web spam. Build quality now that will last for years.
      i agree too..
      good quality content + (a few) high quality backlinks will make you a winner ..
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    • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
      Originally Posted by Bent SEO View Post

      I don't understand why everyone tries to fight the updates - why not just build top quality content and find related sites and send out quality blog post with high authority - build links the way links are naturally built instead of clamoring around after a penguin update to fix your sites.
      .
      What a tired, nonsensical argument. 'Build links' the way they're 'naturally' built.

      Man, listen to yourself some time.

      So called 'high-quality' content and 'high-quality' backlinks you place to your own site are not enough to avoid Google algo changes.

      There's no magic bullet that's going to keep a website at the top of Google forever.
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  • Profile picture of the author clarkfaint
    SEO is definitely not dead. But yeah spot #25 means you still have some work to go before you consider this a win. Out of curiosity is this just a churn & burn site?
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  • Profile picture of the author tansks
    Do you already hit first page?
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    Coming soon

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  • Profile picture of the author Dokemion
    Most basic SEO campaigns are still working. Other old linkbuilding strategy has little or already has no effect when it comes to ranking. To avoid wasting so much time even money investing on linkbuilding you have to carefully choose your links.

    Threads like "SEO is Dead" or "Link building is dead" is a conspiracy created by some internet marketers for "Marketing Purposes". Just to ignore them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
    Thanks andishm. it was necessary to prove it. lot of people talk about this thing but they have no clue.
    Great report
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  • Profile picture of the author Lokahi
    I say that they are not dead. I feel that link building is very important to seo. This is a great way to get some good traffic to your site and really get your site on the map!
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    • Profile picture of the author hipeopo02
      over 10 days since your last post, andishm. What's new with your site's rankings?
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      A crappy product or service by people that disappear from the forum for a long period of time to make it look like they were working on something so when they come back you will want to click on their crappy product or service link

      CLICK HERE! LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author JonPKibble
    I've been reading this forum for a long time and don't recall anyone saying that SEO or link building was dead. Seriously, who said this?
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    • Profile picture of the author hipeopo02
      Originally Posted by JonPKibble View Post

      I've been reading this forum for a long time and don't recall anyone saying that SEO or link building was dead. Seriously, who said this?
      The OP said it.



      And it worked because here you are.
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      • Profile picture of the author andishm
        Dear All Friend,
        First of all thanks for participating in this thread and replying... and giving few time to have some positive energy that Big G Do whatever but it will still worth to work for SEO as that is what gives us free traffic.

        FOR your information about me I have ranked my website in top 3 position on highest competition niches keywords for years and years... We all know that the SEO industry is not that stable since last few 1-2 years due to many updates and me myself is not alone who have been hit by any updates etc etc... But I still created this thread to have some test going on and pass some positive energy to all of my Warrior Forum friends with words that "link building and SEO both still works" thats it


        Sorry was busy with some other work anyways being A OP I am trying to answer everyone's query in my point on view on this thread...

        Originally Posted by BennyP View Post

        SEO won't die. What you need to focus on when building links is longevity and quality. You need links to chase you. Best place to start is getting a big social media presence. SEO and social will become further integrated, they won't kill each other off.
        In my view having Social media is not a bad idea many research and surveys of big companies already proven that Social media is a ++ for SEO however since my thread is for link building in my test project i didnot tried any SMO or Social Media Optimization yet

        Originally Posted by uawizard View Post

        A good link to have is one that you or your service provide has access to control

        2.0's are rockin it, match that with some higher pr backlnks, then further link diversification from there...

        The new SEO combines both social and backlinking, its the recipe that counts...
        I agree web 2.0 + high pr links still works...

        Originally Posted by Bent SEO View Post

        I don't understand why everyone tries to fight the updates - why not just build top quality content and find related sites and send out quality blog post with high authority - build links the way links are naturally built instead of clamoring around after a penguin update to fix your sites.

        Hint: The penguin updates will never stop. Google will never just give up on web spam. Build quality now that will last for years.
        Yes penguin may never stop but still SEO will never end until Search Engines are there in this internet world I think... Personally in my view any kind of link building done by you for your website still comes to gray hat link building so if anyone having confusion that there is any kind of specific white hat link building then atleast I donot believe in white hat link building

        Originally Posted by clarkfaint View Post

        SEO is definitely not dead. But yeah spot #25 means you still have some work to go before you consider this a win. Out of curiosity is this just a churn & burn site?
        First of all this is not churn and burn as I have 7 yrs of SEO experience and have seen all the major updates very closely... Yes I agree 25th spot is nothing.. but I will update the thread once it hit say 1st page or top 3 for sure... Also since i am not planning to be caught by any animal thus i am not in hurry to go there and make some noisy links and have the site back to 30th page, so working slow donot mean that you are not working...

        Since my link building is based on concept of tiered links it will have its value and worth as time passes and as more tier1/2 i creates...

        Originally Posted by tansks View Post

        Do you already hit first page?
        Nope yet, actually was busy with some other work however will start working on this project back but good news is rank is stable still so will continue to work and keep you all updated and posted

        Originally Posted by Dokemion View Post

        Most basic SEO campaigns are still working. Other old linkbuilding strategy has little or already has no effect when it comes to ranking. To avoid wasting so much time even money investing on linkbuilding you have to carefully choose your links.

        Threads like "SEO is Dead" or "Link building is dead" is a conspiracy created by some internet marketers for "Marketing Purposes". Just to ignore them.
        Yes, thats why i created this thread just dont read any such threads they pass on negative energy and that is what Big G Want to kill SEO directly/indirectly... and pay them for paid ads thats it...

        Originally Posted by Moneymaker2012 View Post

        Thanks andishm. it was necessary to prove it. lot of people talk about this thing but they have no clue.
        Great report
        Thanks for your support bro! Will keep continue posted and updated

        Originally Posted by Lokahi View Post

        I say that they are not dead. I feel that link building is very important to seo. This is a great way to get some good traffic to your site and really get your site on the map!
        Yes link building and seo still works...

        Originally Posted by hipeopo02 View Post

        over 10 days since your last post, andishm. What's new with your site's rankings?
        As said above site rank is stable as i didnot made anymore tier1 but will start continue working on it back.. and i hope shall have it in top 10 soon. I dont want to burn my site so didnot tried anything which can call any robotic algo to eat it and make it died

        Originally Posted by JonPKibble View Post

        I've been reading this forum for a long time and don't recall anyone saying that SEO or link building was dead. Seriously, who said this?
        I have been on Warrior Forum since long time I have seen many such posts says SEO dead or negative energy passed.. This thread is created with a motivation to all friends that still there is a way to get in tops that's it period Don't believe in anyone says so dead/link building not work anymore...
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  • Profile picture of the author andishm
    Hey Friends,
    I have a good news I am on 1st page for my main keyword now ranking # 8th today....
    At the same moment of time since i worked for LSI too a lots of other keywords too causing good ranks too

    I will like to have it on top 3 then may be we can have some myths clear of SEO:
    1. Quality content works?
    2. Big G do have grammer checker?
    3. Link building works or not... ?
    4. Social Media a must for SEO?
    5. Tiered link building works or not...?
    6. Where to start SEO right way?

    and many more questions which anyone can have... At the same moment of time I am trying to have it ranked for top 3 for most of my LSI and other related keywords too.. Once I am all done may be i share the URL and all the keywords ranking

    At this moment i have to still work on few things more... and same time will think that will it be good for my test url and keywords to show to public or not...

    However the aim of the thread is still the same have pass some positive energy to all of my warrior forums that dont get afraid with Animals... they are just animals and the Zoo is best place for them so dont get scared we can still rank and bank...


    Many of my criticizers also claimed to show if i earn why not may be i show you that thing as well as soon as it get top rank i am sure my affiliate is gonna pay me upto 100 USD per sell then we share that graphs or data too for them who want to see that too...

    Its all a motivational thread other than this here is no motive...
    So friend i will be trying my best and share you as soon as I am top 3 and gets my 1st affiliate sell too

    In meantime anybody having any question please read this whole thread if your question you think yet not answered and you have a unique question i would be happy to help and answer
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  • Profile picture of the author joymills
    SEO is not dead at all, you just need to change your strategy, you can focus on low search volume keywords instead of high search volume keywords.
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    • Profile picture of the author andishm
      Originally Posted by joymills View Post

      SEO is not dead at all, you just need to change your strategy, you can focus on low search volume keywords instead of high search volume keywords.
      Yup, great idea...
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  • Profile picture of the author royalstar23
    Good Job... Yes, i believe the SEO is not dead, We just need to work smartly.
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    • Profile picture of the author dexture
      thanks for sharing you exp here , i see this problem sometime here on this forum (If you dont share then crticize others who share ).

      nice worked
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  • Profile picture of the author ynoto
    Good job man!
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  • Profile picture of the author andishm
    Dear Friends...

    I Just did it....

    My wordpress test blog created few weeks back ranking 4th now on its main keyword which was a medium competition keyword,

    Ranking 4th in google.com for primary keyword targetted right now



    Really happy post many animal updates that i was able to rank keyword with just 80 tier1 backlinks approx.
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  • Profile picture of the author itdon
    great sharing but i have one question what is the Tiered link building?
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