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by jbthemummy
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So you started a website, it didn't work out and now you want to start another project.

You have a much more clear vision on this project and actually have a lot of real content to provide for people.

However, you don't want to get rid of your last website because although it's producing zero income and kind of a waste of time, it does have a PR rank of 3 and a domain age of 10 years. Also, since due to some initial backlinking that you did, Google really 'respects' the site. The only reason you want to keep this site is because of the initial link juice it provides to any new project you start.

However, for this site to continue being the 'link juice provider' steady content or updates are necessary.

Now the question is . . .

What business (The fastest way possible) would you turn a site like this into something that will provide regular content (Automated or Semi AutomateD)(So you can use it as a link booster for your new projects).

I was thinking to turn this into a directory / resource site (Provided by RSS Feeds) and my USP would be "Get a backlink from a 10+ year old human managed directory" or something.

Current niche is: Online Business / Self Help

What do you experts suggest?
#business idea #tips
  • Profile picture of the author emelef
    Depends on what type of site it is but you could offer guest blogging spots which will give others the back links they need. Otherwise can you not use this site as the base for your new venture... PR 3 is a pretty good place to be starting from!
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  • Profile picture of the author jbthemummy
    I basically talk about my SEO experience, tips, etc and self help stuff. I just want to concentrate on my passion for DJing now so wanted to get this take care of as a residual site (I can charge ppl to be including in this directory) or perhaps get rid of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by jbthemummy View Post

    you don't want to get rid of your last website because although it's producing zero income and kind of a waste of time, it does have a PR rank of 3 and a domain age of 10 years.
    The domain age of 10 years is clearly potentially worth something to you.

    The current page rank very much less so - it may not, in fact, be worth anything at all, for quite a few reasons. First, when you put something different on the site, the existing backlinks may well not be context-relevant to it any more, and if they're not, it probably won't be maintaining its PR at the next update anyway; secondly, we can all see for ourselves from the ever-increasing regularity with which lower-PR pages are outranking higher-PR pages in Google's SERP's that it's a very small factor in SERP's rankings anyway; thirdly, websites don't "have page ranks" anyway: only pages have page ranks, and it's only one page anyway, even if it's from the site's home page.

    Originally Posted by jbthemummy View Post

    The only reason you want to keep this site is because of the initial link juice it provides to any new project you start.
    Not for me: I wouldn't necessarily expect its link juice to transfer to "any new project I start". But I might well want to keep it because of its age, I admit.

    Originally Posted by jbthemummy View Post

    What business (The fastest way possible) would you turn a site like this into something that will provide regular content (Automated or Semi AutomateD)(So you can use it as a link booster for your new projects).
    I don't expect my websites to provide content. I expect to provide content myself, to put on them.

    Originally Posted by jbthemummy View Post

    I was thinking to turn this into a directory / resource site (Provided by RSS Feeds) and my USP would be "Get a backlink from a 10+ year old human managed directory" or something.
    You may find people gullible enough to buy them, on that basis (countless others seem to), but only newbies who have no effective understanding of SEO and don't even know that the linkjuice they'll get is in inverse proportion to the number of links on the page, and that links from pages on which links are sold will have no real long-term value for them. Some of them may not even know that PR is an attribute of pages rather than "sites" or "domains". But you have to ask yourself (and if not, I'll ask you) whether it's really a good long-term, viable strategy to be doing something against which Google so outspokenly and consistently warns internet marketers. Are you not concerned that Google might think/notice/realize that you're effectively selling backlinks, and simply de-index the site, as they've done to so many thousands of others? It isn't my idea of fun.
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    • Profile picture of the author jbthemummy
      Are you not concerned that Google might think/notice/realize that you're effectively selling backlinks, and simply de-index the site, as they've done to so many thousands of others? It isn't my idea of fun.
      I was thinking more of a directory with live rss feeds from sites (SEO Moz, Ramith Sethi, etc) that new seos and online business owners actually find relevant.

      Maybe I should just sell it on Flippa? Ouch!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      First, when you put something different on the site, the existing backlinks may well not be context-relevant to it any more, and if they're not, it probably won't be maintaining its PR at the next update anyway
      This is utterly false. Content relevance has absolutely zero to do with pagerank.

      Originally Posted by jbthemummy View Post

      I was thinking more of a directory with live rss feeds from sites (SEO Moz, Ramith Sethi, etc) that new seos and online business owners actually find relevant.
      Not generally a good idea but you could certainly keep it, flow juice to a page that is relevant to your new site and then link to it from there to your new site and give it a boost. That would not create any great risk of anything.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        This is utterly false. Content relevance has absolutely zero to do with pagerank.
        I didn't actually say (or even imply) that it did.

        I said that the context-relevance of the pages on which the backlinks appear are relevant to the linkjuice value to the recipient page. And it is. If I have an arthritis site, a backlink from a page discussing rheumatology is worth incomparably more to me than a backlink from a page (of the same PR as the rheumatology page) discussing asparagus-farming. You can bluster about that and say "utterly false" as much as you like, but you can't stop it from being true - however uncomfortable it may be from the perspective of what you're here to promote; it's still objective, factual, universally acknowledged and independently verifiable.

        Just a little tip for you, Mike, yet again (even though it's apparently never been helpful for you in the past, when so repeatedly offered by so many of your fellow-members in so many threads on so many occasions): sometimes it helps to read a post, and think about it, before posting a reply to it one of your customary, apparently instinctive attempts to belittle someone.
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  • Profile picture of the author patco
    10+ years is really good. Let me congratulate you! Why don't you go with Affilaite, there are some really good products/softwares that will help you get a lot of sales (to promote these products in your website!). With a domain with 10+ years old age, you should have a really good ranking for some good keywords! Why do you need to change your website at all?!?
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      I didn't actually say (or even imply) that it did.

      I said that the context-relevance of the pages on which the backlinks appear are relevant to the linkjuice value to the recipient page. And it is. If I have an arthritis site, a backlink from a page discussing rheumatology is worth incomparably more to me than a backlink from a page (of the same PR as the rheumatology page) discussing asparagus-farming.
      For rankings, yes, that type of link would be a lot more valuable. For just passing PR onto the target page, relevance plays no role whatsoever.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        For rankings, yes, that type of link would be a lot more valuable.
        This was all I said.

        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        For just passing PR onto the target page, relevance plays no role whatsoever.
        Thanks, Mike: that's not in dispute here, of course.
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