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For those of you who run your own blog network or use separate C-Class IP's on your host - which host do you use? I'm currently with SEOHosting.com but considering a different provider for an upcoming project - anyone have any feedback on other providers?
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    I use anyone other than an SEO host.

    Hostgator
    Stable Host
    FatCow
    iPage
    Hosting Orca
    Geek Storage
    Hosting Cove

    Those are just a few of my hundred or so hosting accounts that I have.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bent SEO
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I use anyone other than an SEO host.

      Hostgator
      Stable Host
      FatCow
      iPage
      Hosting Orca
      Geek Storage
      Hosting Cove

      Those are just a few of my hundred or so hosting accounts that I have.
      But if, for example, you want to put up 20 sites with separate C-Class IP's - where do you go?
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by Bent SEO View Post

        But if, for example, you want to put up 20 sites with separate C-Class IP's - where do you go?
        I go to 20 different hosts.
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        • Profile picture of the author Bent SEO
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          I go to 20 different hosts.
          Fair enough - thanks for the feedback.

          Anyone else have feedback on 1 host offering SEO hosting options with multiple C-Class IP's?
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        • Profile picture of the author Slazengeer
          Don't put all your sites on same host even if they are offering you different class C ips and don't even look at those hosting providers that are offering exclusive seo solutions.

          You can have a search in google for $2 hosting or anything else and you will get tons of great hosting providers at cheap price. I am presently hosting 21 sites on different hosting providers ranging from $12 - $30/year.
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          • Profile picture of the author Bent SEO
            Originally Posted by Slazengeer View Post

            Don't put all your sites on same host even if they are offering you different class C ips and don't even look at those hosting providers that are offering exclusive seo solutions.

            You can have a search in google for $2 hosting or anything else and you will get tons of great hosting providers at cheap price. I am presently hosting 21 sites on different hosting providers ranging from $12 - $30/year.
            Definitely! I do this for a good deal of sites, however some I also cluster since there are so many - I would run out of host eventually...

            Thanks for the feedback everyone.
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            • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
              Originally Posted by Bent SEO View Post

              Definitely! I do this for a good deal of sites, however some I also cluster since there are so many - I would run out of host eventually...

              Thanks for the feedback everyone.
              You'll run out of websites to setup before you ever run out of hosts.

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              • Profile picture of the author Bent SEO
                Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                You'll run out of websites to setup before you ever run out of hosts.

                Start here

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                Thanks for that link Mike - that makes my search significantly easier...
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              • Profile picture of the author Slazengeer
                Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                You'll run out of websites to setup before you ever run out of hosts.

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                A lot of hosting providers at WHT are new ones so you need to be careful before ordering their services. Just my 2 cents.
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                • Profile picture of the author Bent SEO
                  Originally Posted by Slazengeer View Post

                  A lot of hosting providers at WHT are new ones so you need to be careful before ordering their services. Just my 2 cents.
                  Thanks for the heads up - I'll do a bit of poking around into each before singing up.
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                • Profile picture of the author micksss
                  Originally Posted by Slazengeer View Post

                  A lot of hosting providers at WHT are new ones so you need to be careful before ordering their services. Just my 2 cents.
                  True, check how long they have been around and their post history on the forum before you jump on any too good to be true shared hosting deals.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Bent SEO
                    Originally Posted by micksss View Post

                    True, check how long they have been around and their post history on the forum before you jump on any too good to be true shared hosting deals.
                    Good call for sure.
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                • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                  Originally Posted by Slazengeer View Post

                  A lot of hosting providers at WHT are new ones so you need to be careful before ordering their services. Just my 2 cents.
                  I used to spend a lot of time researching the hosts and looking for reviews. What I do now instead is just sign up with any that I cannot find major complaints on. Then if I have any issues, even fairly minor ones, in the first two weeks, I request a refund and move the site to another host. If I am having issues in the first few weeks, that can be a sign of things to come.

                  Generally, I only have an issue with maybe 1 in 15 or 1 in 20 of the hosts that I use.

                  I've just found it to be a more efficient use of time.
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        • Profile picture of the author montozza
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          I go to 20 different hosts.
          Words of wisdom are often so simple, but people always look for a more complcated solutions.

          Great eye-opening sentence Mike. Thanx for this tip. It is so obvious yet I never thought about it. I keep all of my "main websites" on one hosting provider and using "seo hosting" companies for class-c.

          And now I just realized - why to do that when is more secure to have more hosting accounts for trustworthy companies.
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    • Profile picture of the author Slazengeer
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I use anyone other than an SEO host.

      Hostgator
      Stable Host
      FatCow
      iPage
      Hosting Orca
      Geek Storage
      Hosting Cove

      Those are just a few of my hundred or so hosting accounts that I have.
      Hi Mike, great list. Expecting some more hidden gems like Hosting Cove, which is offering hosting for $12/year along with free domain. Actually a steal
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    • Profile picture of the author chris_87
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I use anyone other than an SEO host.

      Hostgator
      Stable Host
      FatCow
      iPage
      Hosting Orca
      Geek Storage
      Hosting Cove

      Those are just a few of my hundred or so hosting accounts that I have.
      For the shared hosting sites, how do you get a decent speed? I have tried shared hosting before using blue host and even at the upgraded level it wasn't as responsive as I would have liked.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by chris_87 View Post

        For the shared hosting sites, how do you get a decent speed? I have tried shared hosting before using blue host and even at the upgraded level it wasn't as responsive as I would have liked.
        You are talking about for hosting private network sites?
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        • Profile picture of the author chris_87
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          You are talking about for hosting private network sites?
          This was for a regular business website. I had to switch over to get decent speeds even after upgrading on blue host.

          However, moving forward I am mostly concerned for hosting for a network site. If speed isn't as much of an issue for the network, then it wont be a problem.
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            Originally Posted by chris_87 View Post

            This was for a regular business website. I had to switch over to get decent speeds even after upgrading on blue host.

            However, moving forward I am mostly concerned for hosting for a network site. If speed isn't as much of an issue for the network, then it wont be a problem.
            Speed does not matter for network sites. You are not trying to rank them.
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            • Profile picture of the author chris_87
              Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

              Speed does not matter for network sites. You are not trying to rank them.
              Thanks Mike. I am assuming the list you gave up at the top of this thread (hostgator etc) was referring to hosting for your network sites. What hosting sites do you recommend for money sites?

              Thanks
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              • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                Most are really not that bad.

                I've had good experience lately with StableHost, HawkHost, and WebHosting Buzz.
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                • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                  Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                  Most are really not that bad.

                  I've had good experience lately with StableHost, HawkHost, and WebHosting Buzz.
                  Ditto on stablehost and hawkhost (never used webhosting buzz). Crocweb, monstermeg, obhosting, hoststellar eleven2 all decent for PBNs.

                  Frankly the only time you really go wrong is with resellers (they don't really have their own servers or even know how to maintain them) and kiddie hosts. it does not take that much for a host to keep a site online good enough for a PBN. I pretty much stay away from all the hosts recommended at these host review sites. The really big hosting farms are mostly a disaster. Site 5 is an exception.

                  Don't know why it is (besides the extra setup it requires) but I have never come across a really bad litespeed host (not denying they are out there just never come across one yet)
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by chris_87 View Post

            However, moving forward I am mostly concerned for hosting for a network site. If speed isn't as much of an issue for the network, then it wont be a problem.

            Chris, Speed as Mike said does not matter. I get similar things from a few people I build networks for and though 95% of them listen some of them just cannot get it and I would like to stamp it on their heads.but here it is

            NOTHING THAT RELATES TO RANKING MATTERS FOR A PBN SITE.

            PBNs are for passing on authority not ranking. Therefore

            speed does not matter

            putting a whole heap of crappy plugins for SEO does not matter (they just slow down the site and half the time the stubborn customers end up wrecking their site and blaming me)

            Having a niche related domain (I get this quite a bit as if pages and content do not determine relevance - I guess its the exact domain match thing ) does not matter.

            Frequency of content update does not matter EXCEPT when you want google to crawl the page again for new links. Freshness has nothing to do with PBNs,

            Although for the future it might matter even a spammed link source won't matter (if it did tiered link building would be completely dead)

            So frankly if a PBN passes on some relevance of content around the link (and some anchor text relevance and juice then the job of the PBN is done.

            having decent content is an issue of protection for your network and not junking up the internet but honestly unfortunately crappy content networks work as long as they don't get reported - for now.

            Just think ranking factors and PBNs as two different things.
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  • Profile picture of the author Romina82
    Mostly I use bluehost or godaddy.
    Otherwise I have my personal administrator for the consulting websites biz.
    Important to check that you have the backup feature (if possible set to automatic like daily) since you will have multiple sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lokahi
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    Stable Host
    FatCow
    iPage
    Hosting Orca
    Geek Storage
    Hosting Cove
    X10Hosting
    Premiere Hosting

    As he stated above these are the best - added a few on
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
    I've been with SEOHosting for a while. They used to be a part of Hostgator, then they become independant, but that's a moot point since now I know the venture capitalist group EIG has bought them, and lately my sites have been down a lot. Today was the last straw. I'm moving!

    Here's the list of all the hosting companies they bought:
    Endurance International Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I'm probably going with glowhost simply because they're not on the list. It really sucks having the sites down. And I've been hearing about it from my clients...


    Edit: I'll give it to them that their support is very fast and gets issues resolved. They just did it while I was writing this post. Still, sites are NOT supposed to be down! And not that often either.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    2 to add that get my +1

    http://www.dreamhost.com/
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    Both not bad and good pricing. The GUI on dreamhost can be a bit tricky though.
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  • Profile picture of the author multiplecloud
    @Bent SEO So you need different location/server for diverse your website in each server, right?
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  • Profile picture of the author koubain
    create an other account on SEOHosting.com he is the best
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  • Profile picture of the author squadron
    Originally Posted by Bent SEO View Post

    For those of you who run your own blog network or use separate C-Class IP's on your host - which host do you use?...
    I see what's on special on eBay. You can get good deals for less than $10 per year. I only ever put one site on each host to spread risk.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by mrPinky View Post

      I am usiing xrumerhosting for one of my websites and it's doing pretty good, it's been a long time and no problems so far. I hope this helps...cheers!
      ROFL..... I thought it was pretty funny if they actually included their name in their nameservers . I mean what a bullseye that must put on their customers' sites. SO I just had to look and it got even funnier. Funniest web host home page I have EVER seen. Big and bold on page one

      Bulletproof Servers – Spamming, Emailing, Adult, Torrents Are Aloud

      No Spoofing, No Botnets, and No Denial Of Service Attacks Aloud
      Better turn down the music if you attack them. Torrents better be quiet too. Got to keep it really quiet like

      ROFL
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  • Profile picture of the author ikuret75
    There are a lot of $1 hosting - they are not reliable but for the purpose of PBN that's OK. But if you want some quality you should get something around $3/mo.
    With my experience, Webzpro $3.35/mo is good.

    Also, besides the hosts that were already mentioned, there are some sites with good (real) reviews.
    Mochahost $1.95/mo
    Wooservers $1.67/mo
    alphabit $3/mo

    I was using a SEO hosting but switching to many hosts instead.
    Whoever using a SEO hosting, do a reverse IP check with your IP and you would be horrified to see how many PBNs are on that IP.
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  • Profile picture of the author kpmedia
    Mochahost has had terrible reviews for several years now.
    No idea what happened to them.
    I would suggest staying far away from that mess.
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    • Profile picture of the author ikuret75
      Originally Posted by kpmedia View Post

      Mochahost has had terrible reviews for several years now.
      No idea what happened to them.
      I would suggest staying far away from that mess.
      Thanks for the info. I didn't know that!
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    • Profile picture of the author kpmedia
      Originally Posted by panda62 View Post

      the best in my opinion is bulletproofvps
      I'm trying to do lots of research before buying host and usually always pick host from a company with good reputation
      This smells like spam to me.

      Domain Name: BULLETPROOFVPS.COM
      Registry Domain ID: 1844253518_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
      Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
      Update Date: 2014-01-25 17:20:59
      Creation Date: 2014-01-25 17:20:59
      Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-01-25 17:20:59
      Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
      Registrar IANA ID: 146
      Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
      Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
      Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
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      Registrant Name: Josh Nicholson
      Registrant Organization: Jasha Inc.
      Registrant Street: 48 Hughes Street
      Registrant City: Saint Thomas
      Registrant State/Province: Ontario
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      Registrant Country: Canada
      Registrant Phone: +1.5196333438
      Registrant Phone Ext:
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      So, this "host" isn't even 3 weeks old, and you recommend it as best? Right... :rolleyes:

      Looks like some pretty poor research right there!
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  • Profile picture of the author chris_87
    Does using SEO Hosting leave a big footprint that Google can either a) currently read or b) will be able to read in the future?

    It sounds like it is a safe alternative now; however, moving forward I have some reservations with SEO Hosting because your "neighbors" are all going to be blog networks. It won't look natural.

    Compared to managing domains across multiple shared hosting.

    Thanks in advance to everyone for their time and input.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      There is no actual footprint. But this is the big problem.

      Originally Posted by chris_87 View Post

      I have some reservations with SEO Hosting because your "neighbors" are all going to be blog networks.
      Google knows that about the only people using SEO hosts are people running networks. They have targeted them in the past and will continue to do so.

      All they have to do is sign up as a customer and they can start getting the server info.

      I've seen myself where 80-90% of all the sites on one IP address were deindexed overnight.
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