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Back linking Layers

by Retiring Ironman
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I understand the concept of back linking in general, and I am pretty sure I grasp back linking in layers in order to protect your money site. Where I get confused is the content your putting out on each layer, as well as which layers are important.

In regard to the content should it be 300-500 range in regards to a web 2.0 layer or 800-1000?

Should it be authored by me / or an alias of me?

When it comes to a tumbr account / blog, can it be my tumblr account or does it need to be someone else's blog that I post an article on?

any ebooks you could suggest that could point me in the right direction of this would be awesome.

Thanks!
#back #backlinking #layers #linking
  • Profile picture of the author Alexzeto
    Layer 1 or layer 2 or even layer 3 or 4,google is figuring out tier link building,I dont understand why people work so hard to create spammy backlinks,one day or another your website will get hit,google is not stupid.

    Good luck with your layers...
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    • Profile picture of the author Retiring Ironman
      To be honest, the thought of creating all those layers seems exhausting. I haven't started back linking at all at this point. I am in it for the long hall, with a 3 year plan in terms of any type of good return. I've been concentrating on posting 5-6 800-1000 word articles on my site each week with a goal of building an authority site.

      Am I missing out by not having a back linking strategy, or will that come naturally for me through my content that I post on my own site?

      The last thing I had planned on posting was anything spammy, my back link content would be as good as my site content. however, in my mind that always seemed like kind of a waste since it wouldn't be on my site.

      i appreciate your help!
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexzeto
        Originally Posted by Retiring Ironman View Post

        To be honest, the thought of creating all those layers seems exhausting. I haven't started back linking at all at this point. I am in it for the long hall, with a 3 year plan in terms of any type of good return. I've been concentrating on posting 5-6 800-1000 word articles on my site each week with a goal of building an authority site.

        Am I missing out by not having a back linking strategy, or will that come naturally for me through my content that I post on my own site?

        The last thing I had planned on posting was anything spammy, my back link content would be as good as my site content. however, in my mind that always seemed like kind of a waste since it wouldn't be on my site.

        i appreciate your help!

        I think the right speed for content should be 1 post per day,with at least 700 words,in the first month you are going to feel tired,but after the first month you are going to get used to it,you just need to create a habit of writting everyday.

        Social media is the most powerful type of backlinks,just because they are created by humans and not robots or spammy softwares,if your content is good,people will share,and them your website will become authority website.

        In my case,for each page that I create for my site,I create a youtube video with the link of the page in the description,youtube link do count for SEO,they are nofollow but they do affect ranks!

        That is just my way to build quality content with a simple but effective youtube backlink to my website.
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      • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
        Originally Posted by Retiring Ironman View Post

        To be honest, the thought of creating all those layers seems exhausting. I haven't started back linking at all at this point. I am in it for the long hall, with a 3 year plan in terms of any type of good return. I've been concentrating on posting 5-6 800-1000 word articles on my site each week with a goal of building an authority site.

        Am I missing out by not having a back linking strategy, or will that come naturally for me through my content that I post on my own site?

        The last thing I had planned on posting was anything spammy, my back link content would be as good as my site content. however, in my mind that always seemed like kind of a waste since it wouldn't be on my site.

        i appreciate your help!
        You are on the right track. You want both a naturally attracting traffic frame of mind and a backlinking strategy. It's not a waste since you want to also think about site promotion. Someone suggesting your site as a resource can be more powerful than the actual site.

        "Build it and they will come" is just wishful thinking. Maybe, maybe not.

        "Build it, and build roads to it so they can find it" is more realistic.

        Originally Posted by Alexzeto View Post

        Layer 1 or layer 2 or even layer 3 or 4,google is figuring out tier link building,I dont understand why people work so hard to create spammy backlinks,one day or another your website will get hit,google is not stupid.
        That's why you don't make spammy properties in your layers. If you spam to your main site, yes it's going to get hit. That's why you make quality layers. Site promotion should be your mindset when creating layers or tiers, not so much the link juice that flows to your site.

        I just don't get what this whole thing is about Google "figuring out" tiered linking. They have already figured it out a long time ago. It's handled exactly the same way as every other site on the web is handled. The entire web is a tiered network.

        Originally Posted by Alexzeto View Post

        I think the right speed for content should be 1 post per day,with at least 700 words,in the first month you are going to feel tired,but after the first month you are going to get used to it,you just need to create a habit of writting everyday.
        The amount of words has nothing to do with anything. You also don't have to post every day. Focus on the appropriate amount of content that will attract and inform users, not statistically how many words it is or posts per week you make.

        Originally Posted by Alexzeto View Post

        Social media is the most powerful type of backlinks,just because they are created by humans and not robots or spammy softwares,if your content is good,people will share,and them your website will become authority website.
        No it's not. Your site will not magically become an authority website by virtue of social media alone.

        Originally Posted by Alexzeto View Post

        In my case,for each page that I create for my site,I create a youtube video with the link of the page in the description,youtube link do count for SEO,they are nofollow but they do affect ranks!
        You might attract some visitors with YouTube but it won't affect rank unless those visitors link to your site.

        Originally Posted by HeadStartSEO View Post

        Basic tiered link building strategy:

        Tier 1 Links

        Only high quality, contextual links from authoritative domains
        10-15(max)% "money keyword(s)"
        20-25% longtail keywords
        The rest are generic, branding or "naked url" links

        Tier 2 Links

        Contextual if possible
        20% "money" kw(s)
        50-60% longtail kws
        The rest are generic

        Tier 3

        Use any available link sources
        Almost all money keywords and longtails
        Dofollow if possible, but not required
        ^^^^
        This is probably the only good advice you'll find in this thread. I would search more threads as it's a pretty common subject. Search for 'tiered linking'.

        Originally Posted by Hossain View Post

        Ridiculous! In another thread you said you are taking clients who are willing to spend 10k/month and now you are talking about keyword diversity??

        So you admit you are building backlinks from low quality sources so that diversity is necessary for you?
        Are you arguing just to argue? Cause that just made no sense.
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        • Profile picture of the author Hossain
          Originally Posted by jinx1221 View Post

          Are you arguing just to argue? Cause that just made no sense.
          Lol. If it don't makes sense to you then you might be one of those "anchor text diversity" lovers. Here I meant if anyone gives expensive SEO service then he must not build backlinks from low quality sites. We assume he has a good collaboration with authority site owners or he knows how to get backlinks from high authority sites. If so then he should not be worried of anchor text diversity? I ranked many sites using just 1 keyword as anchor text after Panda, Penguin etc. etc. and never found any problem with that. This anchor text diversity is another myth that now we should forget specially once you are getting backlinks from authority sites. Well I admit I could be little more specific.
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          • Profile picture of the author Clint Faber
            Originally Posted by Hossain View Post

            Lol. If it don't makes sense to you then you might be one of those "anchor text diversity" lovers. Here I meant if anyone gives expensive SEO service then he must not build backlinks from low quality sites. We assume he has a good collaboration with authority site owners or he knows how to get backlinks from high authority sites. If so then he should not be worried of anchor text diversity? I ranked many sites using just 1 keyword as anchor text after Panda, Penguin etc. etc. and never found any problem with that. This anchor text diversity is another myth that now we should forget specially once you are getting backlinks from authority sites. Well I admit I could be little more specific.
            Would love to see some of your case studies about this..... you do offer some case studies of proven examples of to support your allegations ya? Always open to learning more about others experience that are different than mine.
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            • Profile picture of the author ChristianSites
              Iron - I've read your posts on this forum, and appreciate what you're trying to do. I do think, however, you might be missing out.

              Perhaps you would want to create a "skyscrapper" (nik0's terminology, I believe) piece, which could take 1-2 weeks to produce. Then, post this on your site and find some blogs in the fitness niche. Simply say "Hey, I stumbled across your blog, liked ____. Perhaps your readers would benefit from this: [skyscrapper]."

              I've successfully used this to begin relationships and get good links. At the stage you're at, that's all I would do right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clint Faber
    I wrote a couple of books on this, so when I say I a SEO man, you would agree. Once you get the general idea of how things should be structured. It isn't really that complicated and you won't be caught up in the dual layer confusion.

    If you're starting a new campaign on the most important things to do is look natural to have some good diversity and positive public relations on social forums while building your back links.

    This information will help you out if you take advantage of it
    There's a lot more action say to help but don't want to overwhelm you at the moment as I have been known to do that.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeadStartSEO
    Basic tiered link building strategy:

    Tier 1 Links
    • Only high quality, contextual links from authoritative domains
    • 10-15(max)% "money keyword(s)"
    • 20-25% longtail keywords
    • The rest are generic, branding or "naked url" links

    Tier 2 Links
    • Contextual if possible
    • 20% "money" kw(s)
    • 50-60% longtail kws
    • The rest are generic

    Tier 3
    • Use any available link sources
    • Almost all money keywords and longtails
    • Dofollow if possible, but not required
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexzeto
      Originally Posted by HeadStartSEO View Post

      Basic tiered link building strategy:

      Tier 1 Links
      • Only high quality, contextual links from authoritative domains
      • 10-15(max)% "money keyword(s)"
      • 20-25% longtail keywords
      • The rest are generic, branding or "naked url" links

      Tier 2 Links
      • Contextual if possible
      • 20% "money" kw(s)
      • 50-60% longtail kws
      • The rest are generic

      Tier 3
      • Use any available link sources
      • Almost all money keywords and longtails
      • Dofollow if possible, but not required
      SEO is not that hard dude,kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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    • Profile picture of the author Hossain
      Originally Posted by HeadStartSEO View Post

      Basic tiered link building strategy:

      Tier 1 Links
      • Only high quality, contextual links from authoritative domains
      • 10-15(max)% "money keyword(s)"
      • 20-25% longtail keywords
      • The rest are generic, branding or "naked url" links

      Tier 2 Links
      • Contextual if possible
      • 20% "money" kw(s)
      • 50-60% longtail kws
      • The rest are generic

      Tier 3
      • Use any available link sources
      • Almost all money keywords and longtails
      • Dofollow if possible, but not required
      Ridiculous! In another thread you said you are taking clients who are willing to spend 10k/month and now you are talking about keyword diversity??

      So you admit you are building backlinks from low quality sources so that diversity is necessary for you? :p
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  • Profile picture of the author seomaster5
    I also wanted to know about backlinking layers thanks for this information.
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