A question after wining a high pr domain at godaddys

by stolf
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Okey, so I won a expiring pr 4 domain last night a godaddys. When I check the WOIS for the domian it say it expired 2013-09-01 which is over a month ago, and im not getting access to the domain until 2013-10-14, does this mean the site been offline for over a month and probably the pr and backlinks are gone?

I know their havent been any pr updates in a long time, but the domian looked decent when I checked it at ahrefs, it has around 700 backlinks to it, and registration date is 2011.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    If all you used was Ahrefs, you may have just bought a dud.

    I would run the links through something like SpyGlass that tells you if the links are still there or not. Ahrefs data is not up to date enough.

    As for the site being offline over a month, I would not worry about that much. As long as the links are still there, you should be fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Originally Posted by stolf View Post

    Okey, so I won a expiring pr 4 domain last night a godaddys. When I check the WOIS for the domian it say it expired 2013-09-01 which is over a month ago, and im not getting access to the domain until 2013-10-14, does this mean the site been offline for over a month and probably the pr and backlinks are gone?

    I know their havent been any pr updates in a long time, but the domian looked decent when I checked it at ahrefs, it has around 700 backlinks to it, and registration date is 2011.
    Somethings you should have already done

    A) Do an info search thats - Info:domain.com. Is it still indexed? (if its not that does NOT mean its no good it just gives you a clue as to how long its been down and in some cases it will show that the domain was "faked" - misnomer many auctions are not really faked just had a redirect.

    B) check quality of backlinks - quantity means nothing but you should have checked for links that are still there so that part of the questions you should know.

    PR should have gone nowhere in that period of time. In fact most will stay indexed
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    • Profile picture of the author stolf
      Thanks for the help guys!

      Did like you said and runned spyglass on the domain.Looks like a lot of spammy links, but after analysed 1400 links this is what it found:

      5 pr 3 backlinks
      5 pr 2 backlinks
      11 pr 1 backlinks

      All the others are 0 or N/A.

      And when I do a search Info:domain.com It wont find the domain, only if i do a site:domain.com it finds it but its the auction that show up.

      What do you guys recommend to do next to keep the high pr backlinks?Should I make new pages and use the old url which the good backlinks pointing at?
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      • Profile picture of the author stolf
        And It seems like they had a forum on the site because most of the pr 0 and N/A backlinks pointing at domain.com/forum/#####, but the good backlinks all pointing to the homepage.

        So what I should do Is to focus on keeping the 21 backlinks that have a pagerank and get new content as soon as possible on the domain right?
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by stolf View Post


        5 pr 3 backlinks
        5 pr 2 backlinks
        11 pr 1 backlinks

        All the others are 0 or N/A.
        Hopefully you did not pay PR4 money for it because thats not a Real Time PR4. Depending on how many links on the source page it might not even be a PR3
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        • Profile picture of the author stolf
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Hopefully you did not pay PR4 money for it because thats not a Real Time PR4. Depending on how many links on the source page it might not even be a PR3
          Yeah I suspected that, I paid around $100 for it so not that much tho.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by stolf View Post

            Yeah I suspected that, I paid around $100 for it so not that much tho.

            Yeah too much for that domain though.
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            • Profile picture of the author stolf
              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

              Yeah too much for that domain though.
              Maybe, but Im still glad I bought it because its a great domain name, and I will use the domain to promote a new ebook.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by stolf View Post

        Thanks for the help guys!

        Did like you said and runned spyglass on the domain.Looks like a lot of spammy links, but after analysed 1400 links this is what it found:

        5 pr 3 backlinks
        5 pr 2 backlinks
        11 pr 1 backlinks
        Make sure it aren't some spammy blog comments, I would expect that when having spammy links in general. You could've created that yourself in a few minutes.
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    Can anyone give me a link forSpyGlass? I can't seem to find it any more.

    It seems like most of these high PR domains are really junk I have bought a few, and researched many more, and 90+% of them turn out to be fake, as best as best as I can tell. Not that I am any expert or anything. I always defer to Mike for stuff like that.
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    • Profile picture of the author stolf
      Originally Posted by timpears View Post

      Can anyone give me a link forSpyGlass? I can't seem to find it any more.

      It seems like most of these high PR domains are really junk I have bought a few, and researched many more, and 90+% of them turn out to be fake, as best as best as I can tell. Not that I am any expert or anything. I always defer to Mike for stuff like that.
      Tim, this is where I download it from Download SEO SpyGlass: Link Popularity Tool, Check Backlink with External Link Checker and it worked fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

    If all you used was Ahrefs, you may have just bought a dud.

    I would run the links through something like SpyGlass that tells you if the links are still there or not. Ahrefs data is not up to date enough.

    As for the site being offline over a month, I would not worry about that much. As long as the links are still there, you should be fine.
    I agree with Mike Friedman here, you should be worried more about the authenticity of the site PR you bought then the date it expired.

    If you have bought a fake PR site it's as good as using article directories for backlinks.

    You need to always check the domain authority of a site, the amount of quality links linking to the site before obtaining it.

    Originally Posted by timpears View Post

    Can anyone give me a link forSpyGlass? I can't seem to find it any more.

    It seems like most of these high PR domains are really junk I have bought a few, and researched many more, and 90+% of them turn out to be fake, as best as best as I can tell. Not that I am any expert or anything. I always defer to Mike for stuff like that.
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    • Profile picture of the author mkayius
      Originally Posted by johnben1444 View Post

      I agree with Mike Friedman here, you should be worried more about the authenticity of the site PR you bought then the date it expired.

      If you have bought a fake PR site it's as good as using article directories for backlinks.

      You need to always check the domain authority of a site, the amount of quality links linking to the site before obtaining it.



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      Could an expired domain have a PR3 without having backlinks ? I found the domain listed on one of those websites that deal with expired websites, check its PR using a few different PR checkers (although on that website it said the Domain`s PR could not be validated), and all show that is of PR3, but no backlink. The domain seems pretty old, and I bought it just like any other domain, no auction or whatever.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by mkayius View Post

        Could an expired domain have a PR3 without having backlinks ? I found the domain listed on one of those websites that deal with expired websites, check its PR using a few different PR checkers (although on that website it said the Domain`s PR could not be validated), and all show that is of PR3, but no backlink. The domain seems pretty old, and I bought it just like any other domain, no auction or whatever.
        No links = No PR.
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        • Profile picture of the author mkayius
          Ok, so I`m confused! Several PR checkers say it has PR3. What PR checker is reliable in this case? Should I avoid high PR domains without backlinks just to be sure or what ?
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            Originally Posted by mkayius View Post

            Ok, so I`m confused! Several PR checkers say it has PR3. What PR checker is reliable in this case? Should I avoid high PR domains without backlinks just to be sure or what ?
            PR checkers are useless for determining if the PR is real or not. They are too easily fooled by redirects.

            You have to inspect the backlinks and see that there are links with PR pointing to the site.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by mkayius View Post

            Ok, so I`m confused! Several PR checkers say it has PR3. What PR checker is reliable in this case? Should I avoid high PR domains without backlinks just to be sure or what ?

            Mike has already answered correctly that you need to check the backlinks. The other side to the coin however is that since Yahoo explorer closed down a few years back no link checker gives full coverage. Spyglass is alright I guess and alot of people use because it has a free version but even with the webmeup integration it still misses ton loads of links.

            Frankly its at the point where you need Spyglass, ahrefs and majestic combined to find all the links and even then you will miss many.
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            • Profile picture of the author mkayius
              Thanks guys! At least this part has become a bit more clear to me.....

              EDIT: I wonder if I purchase a high PR domain like WhateverKwd.com and add content about ...I don`t know...."soap discounts" to use for a backlink to my DiscountSoap.com, would this be a good backlink for my site?

              I guess a tutorial/ebook/blueprint about all this topic would help a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sellaholics
    Is it on the same C class? Server? I guess you could get "a link" like that. A lot of other factors make it a good one.
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