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Do you think this link profile is dangerous?

by maninthemiddle
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Hi, I started to manage a website that is facing a traffic drop since a few months and I was guessing if that is due to the link profile the old webmasters have built:

- More than 80% of links are dofollows coming from a PR4 syndication site (more than 100.000 links coming from there).

- The second biggest source is a PR2 abandoned website sending more than 8.000 dofollow links from the footer. Anchor text is URL (not optimized).


Do you think that any of those sources may be triggering Penguin attention? I am afraid to remove them since they have a lot of weight in the total links count... Should I try?
#dangerous #link #penalty #penguin #profile #syndicate
  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    Why did you buy the domain if it looked to have a dodgey link profile in the first place?
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    Originally Posted by dsan View Post

    Hi, I started to manage a website that is facing a traffic drop since a few months and I was guessing if that is due to the link profile the old webmasters have built:

    - More than 80% of links are dofollows coming from a PR4 syndication site (more than 100.000 links coming from there).

    - The second biggest source is a PR2 abandoned website sending more than 8.000 dofollow links from the footer. Anchor text is URL (not optimized).


    Do you think that any of those sources may be triggering Penguin attention? I am afraid to remove them since they have a lot of weight in the total links count... Should I try?
    Yes, many of my clients have seen a similar traffic drop and most of those clients have had a lot of site wide links pointing to their website, most probably from low quality domains.

    I guess syndication and sitewide links do not really work too well these days.

    Generally speaking, the high PR domain should have good quality links coming in from a lot of different sources, not just a handful.
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    • Profile picture of the author maninthemiddle
      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      Why did you buy the domain if it looked to have a dodgey link profile in the first place?
      Well I haven't bought the domain, I am just managing the site.


      Originally Posted by YasirYar View Post

      Generally speaking, the high PR domain should have good quality links coming in from a lot of different sources, not just a handful.
      Good point. Do you think that removing a big sitewide could harm if it has big weight in your profile? I've seen some websites with optimized sitewide incoming links that rank good for the sitewide anchor keywords.
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      • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
        Nah, removing sitewide links quickly can actually get you to rank lower since you are deleting a lot of links at the same time.

        My advice: Build quality links AND remove the sitewide links slowly.

        Or better yet, start with a new domain name.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        Originally Posted by dsan View Post

        Well I haven't bought the domain, I am just managing the site.
        Why do people do client SEO and site management via the WF?

        Complete ripoff.

        Paul
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        • Profile picture of the author maninthemiddle
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Why do people do client SEO and site management via the WF?

          Complete ripoff.

          Paul
          I think that questions in forums like this one may help the guy that started the thread and other people coming here looking for similar answers too. I don't see the negative point.
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  • Profile picture of the author marrick
    There are things need to be checked before removing sitewide links. If those links are built to manipulate rankings (which I see is the case) then removing them all at once would be much better since they don't carry much weight when it comes to link value.

    So my advice is clean first the link profile by removing those low quality links and start a fresh link building campaign.
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    How many positions did they drop in rankings?

    What about the anchor text of those 100K+ links from the PR4 site?

    Do those links drive any traffic?

    If the site tanked to page 5/6+ for most of the keywords then you don't have much to lose and thus get them removed unless they drive a lot of traffic obvious.

    One of the best ways to find out if a site has a penalty is by building a few strong links and see what happens with the rankings for a few weeks, if nothing happens you can be pretty sure you got a penalty and likely caused by those sitewide links yes.
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    • Profile picture of the author maninthemiddle
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      How many positions did they drop in rankings?
      Not easy to check that because the site is a blog with hundreds of posts. The dropping has been noticed in search traffic.

      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      What about the anchor text of those 100K+ links from the PR4 site?
      The anchor texts are the title of each post since the link source is a syndication site.

      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      Do those links drive any traffic?
      No traffic at all coming from there.

      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      One of the best ways to find out if a site has a penalty is by building a few strong links and see what happens with the rankings for a few weeks, if nothing happens you can be pretty sure you got a penalty and likely caused by those sitewide links yes.
      Good advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author online only
    So you basically have 2 bad sitewide links? I wouldn't sweat too much about it...
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