Penalized Site....Shall I continue with it ..Need help

by Pravir
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I have a two word branded domain with around 40 pages with unique content. But the site was penalized by the Google in the recent algorithm update. All the pages are index and showing in Google but none of the pages are showing for any of the keywords.

I have lot of unique written content with me and want to develop it as an authority site but I am confused...shall I go with this domain and develop it or shall I get .net or .org version of the same domain as it would be easy for me to get rankings with new domain.

Plz advise


Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Are you SURE it's been penalized?

    What's the URL?
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  • Profile picture of the author larryboy03
    Originally Posted by Pravir View Post

    I have a two word branded domain with around 40 pages with unique content. But the site was penalized by the Google in the recent algorithm update. All the pages are index and showing in Google but none of the pages are showing for any of the keywords.

    I have lot of unique written content with me and want to develop it as an authority site but I am confused...shall I go with this domain and develop it or shall I get .net or .org version of the same domain as it would be easy for me to get rankings with new domain.

    Plz advise


    Thanks
    It's probably not penalized unless you have had any links warnings or thin content messages.

    My recent niche site lost all rankings for around 3 weeks then came back ranking better and driving more traffic than before. The site was only 2-3 months old.

    I seen this as the Google dance. My ranking went from page 1 down to page 23+ then came back stronger, so keep adding content.

    If all your pages and posts are still in the search engine then your not penalized.

    Check Google webmasters for messages first.
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    • Profile picture of the author Pravir
      Originally Posted by larryboy03 View Post

      It's probably not penalized unless you have had any links warnings or thin content messages.

      My recent niche site lost all rankings for around 3 weeks then came back ranking better and driving more traffic than before. The site was only 2-3 months old.

      I seen this as the Google dance. My ranking went from page 1 down to page 23+ then came back stronger, so keep adding content.

      If all your pages and posts are still in the search engine then your not penalized.

      Check Google webmasters for messages first.
      There is no warning or message in my webmaster tool. I used to get little traffic from google but now it is down to almost zero....
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  • Profile picture of the author tcrews
    Just because it lost it's ranking doesn't mean it's penalized. You site is still indexed by Google. Btw, the tool you mentioned is not reliable. I've tested two of my sites and both came as penalized.
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  • Profile picture of the author FranksToys
    It is up to you if you want to recover the site or try to. The only way to recover websites these days is to have your toxic links removed.

    If you dont want to remove the links or dont want to pay someone to do it then you should move on.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    If it's "penalized" (as in: manual action) or not...is pretty much irrelevant. I had/have several sites where I KNOW they were penalized but never got a msg on webmaster tools.

    I would not rely only on webmaster tools because there are several ways a site might get penalized..after manual review etc...and who tells you that you will always get a msg on WMT? Do you take Google's word for it?

    The best way to know whether it's penalized or possibly got down-ranked automatically from their algorithm...is if you ask YOURSELF because you know what you did in the past.

    If you screwed up your link-profile with SEO software and spamming...and you KNOW there are probably 1000s of spammy backlinks....then it's moot to speculate. It will be very difficult and will take a long time to remove so many bad backlinks..

    40 posts/pages is not a whole lot. It would be on you to over-think whether it would make more sense to start from scratch, NEW domain....new content (rewrites etc.)....it might take you as long TRYING (!) to clean-up a helplessly screwed up link profile...in the same time you can make a new site. Obviously it will depend on your domain's age, former rankings etc. If it's "penalized" and you don't see any rankings even for phrases and articles where you KNOW they should rank...damage is already done......would you want to build an "authority site" with that as a basis?

    Would you like to contact hundreds of webmasters in China and abandoned blog networks asking them to remove your spam links...so you can after several months submit disavow links to Google...or simply say "screw it" and make a new site instead?

    Cleaning up a bad link profile which grew over months or years is by far NOT EASIER and not faster than making a site with 40 pages entirely new.

    Tip: Get a good, established PR (PR3-5, whatever your budget) domain with an existing link profile...remake the old site. The 40 articles are rather quickly rewritten. You will have a powerful new PR x domain and a clean link profile.
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    • Profile picture of the author Pravir
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      If it's "penalized" (as in: manual action) or not...is pretty much irrelevant. I had/have several sites where I KNOW they were penalized but never got a msg on webmaster tools.

      I would not rely only on webmaster tools because there are several ways a site might get penalized..after manual review etc...and who tells you that you will always get a msg on WMT? Do you take Google's word for it?

      The best way to know whether it's penalized or possibly got down-ranked automatically from their algorithm...is if you ask YOURSELF because you know what you did in the past.

      If you screwed up your link-profile with SEO software and spamming...and you KNOW there are probably 1000s of spammy backlinks....then it's moot to speculate. It will be very difficult and will take a long time to remove so many bad backlinks..

      40 posts/pages is not a whole lot. It would be on you to over-think whether it would make more sense to start from scratch, NEW domain....new content (rewrites etc.)....it might take you as long TRYING (!) to clean-up a helplessly screwed up link profile...in the same time you can make a new site. Obviously it will depend on your domain's age, former rankings etc. If it's "penalized" and you don't see any rankings even for phrases and articles where you KNOW they should rank...damage is already done......would you want to build an "authority site" with that as a basis?

      Would you like to contact hundreds of webmasters in China and abandoned blog networks asking them to remove your spam links...so you can after several months submit disavow links to Google...or simply say "screw it" and make a new site instead?

      Cleaning up a bad link profile which grew over months or years is by far NOT EASIER and not faster than making a site with 40 pages entirely new.

      Tip: Get a good, established PR (PR3-5, whatever your budget) domain with an existing link profile...remake the old site. The 40 articles are rather quickly rewritten. You will have a powerful new PR x domain and a clean link profile.

      Thank you for your insight ... I have 47 links pointed to my domain with 5 different domain as shown by OpenSiteExplorer and I don't consider any of them as a spam link.. Though it is not big task to clean this but still I am not sure whether I can recover my site.

      I think its better to start from scratch again... I appreciate your TIP to get a established PR domain, this is something I use to do but finding a similar branded domain is difficult.
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  • Profile picture of the author squadron
    Originally Posted by Pravir View Post

    ... but I am confused...shall I go with this domain and develop it or shall I get .net or .org version of the same domain as it would be ...

    Thanks
    It's certainly worth a go. Domain names are cheap, and if it's a Wordpress site it won't take long to migrate the content.
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    • Profile picture of the author Pravir
      Originally Posted by squadron View Post

      It's certainly worth a go. Domain names are cheap, and if it's a Wordpress site it won't take long to migrate the content.
      Yes I am also thinking to go with a new domain but I will not migrate the content as all the content are indexed under this domain. Either I will get it rewrite or will put fresh content.
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  • Profile picture of the author krishparmar
    Get the new domain with samilar name and transfer all your content to new website...Also put 301 redirect of your panalize website to any of your website...after 15-20 days remove the 301 redirect from main website and see that they are index or not..also you can put deindex all your backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Pravir
      Originally Posted by krishparmar View Post

      Get the new domain with samilar name and transfer all your content to new website...Also put 301 redirect of your panalize website to any of your website...after 15-20 days remove the 301 redirect from main website and see that they are index or not..also you can put deindex all your backlinks.
      Redirecting the penalized domain pages to new domain ...doesn't it make negative impact on new domain as well ???

      Though I submit the disavow form to google today ...let see if it works..if not I will go for the new domain
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  • Profile picture of the author Bharathipriya
    I dont think migrating to a new domain is a good idea. If i have to take the decision, i wont, since all the efforts i have taken with the old domain will be simply lost.
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