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So do you think My site is a victim of negative SEO

by Dmreed4311
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This site was ranked #1 for a long time, I never had to do any offsite SEO because it is a small market and it ranked on its own, Well now this site is gone and no where to be found. A quick look at google webmasters tells a tale.

#negative #seo #site #victim
  • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
    Originally Posted by Dmreed4311 View Post

    A quick look at google webmasters tells a tale.
    What tale?
    It doesn't say anything that can shade any light on SEO.

    What is your keywords base?
    What ranks you in SERP and how you get to #1 place?

    :confused:

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      Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

      What tale?
      It doesn't say anything that can shade any light on SEO.

      What is your keywords base?
      What ranks you in SERP and how you get to #1 place?

      :confused:

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      What are you talking about, there are almost 70k backlinks I had nothing to do with and now my site is gone from the rankings.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Originally Posted by Dmreed4311 View Post

        What are you talking about, there are almost 70k backlinks I had nothing to do with and now my site is gone from the rankings.
        Well if you think its because of those links. Conatact the owners of those sites and ask for a site wide removal of them. If that fails to have them removed, use the Google Disavow tool and disavow on a domain level easy enough.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dmreed4311
          Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

          Well if you think its because of those links. Conatact the owners of those sites and ask for a site wide removal of them. If that fails to have them removed, use the Google Disavow tool and disavow on a domain level easy enough.
          That is the route I will take, thank you. just weird how porn sites are linking to my carpet cleaning site.
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      • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
        Originally Posted by Dmreed4311 View Post

        What are you talking about, there are almost 70k backlinks I had nothing to do with and now my site is gone from the rankings.
        Well, first of all never ask questions if you already have answers.
        Second, what da F*** backlinks have to do with SEO?

        We have backlinks and yet our site is coming up in SERP because we have
        strong keyword foundation without which our and your site is nothing.

        If you have problem, it's coming from Hummingbird that see your keywords
        as something week and expendable in favor of stronger keywords.



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        • Profile picture of the author Dmreed4311
          Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

          Well, first of all never ask questions if you already have answers.
          Second, what da F*** backlinks have to do with SEO?

          We have backlinks and yet our site is coming up in SERP because we have
          strong keyword foundation without which our and your site is nothing.

          If you have problem, it's coming from Hummingbird that see your keywords
          as something week and expendable in favor of stronger keywords.



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          Did you just ask "what da F*** backlinks have to do with SEO?" ?
          I think you did
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          • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
            Originally Posted by Dmreed4311 View Post

            Did you just ask "what da F*** backlinks have to do with SEO?" ?
            I think you did
            Yes, I did because SEO 101 is clear what is what
            PR = back links
            SERP = content



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            • Profile picture of the author pdrs
              Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

              Yes, I did because SEO 101 is clear what is what
              PR = back links
              SERP = content



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              how to join the WF and prove you know absolutely nothing in 28 posts or less.
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              • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
                Originally Posted by pdrs View Post

                how to join the WF and prove you know absolutely nothing in 28 posts or less.
                Really?
                Reading a few of your "creations" in WF I have no problems to say that light post with all these
                posters, for sale flyers have more knowledge than you and at least you open your mouth
                for something more than just talking and eating, use it to prove your points Mr. Troll

                :rolleyes:

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                • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                  Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

                  Really?
                  Yeah really. You need to stop posting. its painful reading your posts. Everyone could see the problem with 64,000 links from racyspace and then you follow it up by saying backlinks have nothing to do with SEO.
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                  • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
                    Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                    Yeah really. You need to stop posting. its painful reading your posts. Everyone could see the problem with 64,000 links from racyspace and then you follow it up by saying backlinks have nothing to do with SEO.
                    That's right nothing and specially in his case whereas links are out of his control..
                    I don't see OP showing any evidence he got something from G. except backlinks count
                    so, where is any proof that this is not just simple adjustment made because of keywords?
                    Why everything must be back links?

                    :confused:

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                • Profile picture of the author Ben Acharyaa
                  Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

                  Really?
                  Reading a few of your "creations" in WF I have no problems to say that light post with all these
                  posters, for sale flyers have more knowledge than you and at least you open your mouth
                  for something more than just talking and eating, use it to prove your points Mr. Troll

                  :rolleyes:

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                  What point? you know **** all about seo and your replies here proves it. Not the best idea to call others troll when you know nothing about the topic.
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                  • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
                    Originally Posted by Ben Acharyaa View Post

                    What point? you know **** all about seo and your replies here proves it. Not the best idea to call others troll when you know nothing about the topic.
                    You wanna prove that you're smarter than a 5th grader, then why don't you take out
                    from you mouth whatever you're sucking on and prove me wrong or get lost.

                    And BTW you genius, are you agree that Matt never said that:
                    backlinks never were 1/200 part of the serp algo as@Dmreed4311 claims?
                    Here is your chance to show how really "smart" you are.

                    :rolleyes:

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                    • Profile picture of the author Ben Acharyaa
                      Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

                      You wanna prove that you're smarter than a 5th grader, then why don't you take out
                      from you mouth whatever you're sucking on and prove me wrong or get lost.

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        • Profile picture of the author pdrs
          Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

          Second, what da F*** backlinks have to do with SEO?
          Best thing I've read on here in 2013
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    Looks like a real easy cleanup if it was. But that chart could indicate anything, like maybe a few sites just gave you site-wide links from a site with lots of low quality pages, or a low quality site in general.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dmreed4311
      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      Looks like a real easy cleanup if it was. But that chart could indicate anything, like maybe a few sites just gave you site-wide links from a site with lots of low quality pages, or a low quality site in general.
      Ya it just seems odd that these sites linking to mine are porn hosting sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Originally Posted by Dmreed4311 View Post

        Ya it just seems odd that these sites linking to mine are porn hosting sites.
        Stop hanging out on porn sites and sharing your links
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        • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
          Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

          Stop hanging out on porn sites and sharing your links
          For years freaking Matt C. told webmasters that G. understand that they can do nothing
          about who links to their sites and that backlinks are just a small 1/200 part of SERP Algo and we
          don't need to worry and to pay attention to that insignificant amount and now after creating back links
          PR monstrosity, they want the same Webmasters to clean created by G. mess.

          Now you tell me when "do no evil" prostitute was right on a message then or now?



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          • Profile picture of the author Dmreed4311
            Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

            For years freaking Matt C. told webmasters that G. understand that they can do nothing
            about who links to their sites and that backlinks are just a small 1/200 part of SERP Algo and we
            don't need to worry and to pay attention to that insignificant amount and now after creating back links
            PR monstrosity, they want the same Webmasters to clean created by G. mess.

            Now you tell me when "do no evil" prostitute was right on a message then or now?



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            When did matt ever say that backlinks were 1/200 part of the serp algo?
            I think if that was true no one would ever in the history of SEO create one backlink because it would be pointless.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
            Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

            For years freaking Matt C. told webmasters that G. understand that they can do nothing
            about who links to their sites and that backlinks are just a small 1/200 part of SERP Algo and we
            don't need to worry and to pay attention to that insignificant amount and now after creating back links
            PR monstrosity, they want the same Webmasters to clean created by G. mess.

            Now you tell me when "do no evil" prostitute was right on a message then or now?



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  • Profile picture of the author attorneydavid
    Originally Posted by Dmreed4311 View Post

    This site was ranked #1 for a long time, I never had to do any offsite SEO because it is a small market and it ranked on its own, Well now this site is gone and no where to be found. A quick look at google webmasters tells a tale.
    You need to go by # of linking domains not links. This is a basic SEO misconception. 500 single links from 500 domains > then 3.2 million for 30 domains all else equal.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Fastreplies,

    Google has stated that backlinks are one of over 200 signals they use in determining rankings. However, all signals are not equal, so backlinks are not 1/200th of the ranking.

    Now please tone down your comments and keep from attacking other members.
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    • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      Now please tone down your comments and keep from attacking other members.
      Then tell other member if they have different opinions to come up with evidence and not just
      blah blah blah song

      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      backlinks are not 1/200th of the ranking
      So, you are saying that MC never said that backlinks just 1 of 200 ranking factors?
      Or you're saying that backlinks are not at all part of the 200 items of ranking factor?

      :rolleyes:

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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

        Then tell other member if they have different opinions to come up with evidence and not just blah blah blah song
        I'm not talking to other members. I'm talking to you.

        Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

        So, you are saying that MC never said that backlinks just 1 of 200 ranking factors?

        :rolleyes:

        fastreplies
        Read my post again. I said backlinks are 1 of over 200 ranking factors. However, all the ranking factors are not equal. Nobody knows any kind of percentages, but backlinks could easily be 40-50% of the rankings or more.
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        • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          backlinks could easily be 40-50% of the rankings or more.
          Right, they could be less that 1%?
          So claiming that backlinks is the sole reason is as stupid as to claim that white is not
          white but black.

          Hey, I open for debates and as long other "guy" knows what are proper rules...
          be my guest, lets dance



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        • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          However, all the ranking factors are not equal.
          You don't have to tell that to me, I know this but I have my reasons that based on experience and facts
          Just check this post and you'll see what I mean.
          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post8807441

          If you want more proofs, I have a whole bunch of then that will show that backlinks just a small
          if any factor in SERP realm. So, just ask me.



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          • Profile picture of the author Ben Acharyaa
            Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

            You don't have to tell that to me, I know this but I have my reasons that based on experience and facts
            Just check this post and you'll see what I mean.
            http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post8807441

            If you want more proofs, I have a whole bunch of then that will show that backlinks just a small
            if any factor in SERP realm. So, just ask me.



            fastreplies
            Good work!!! i also rank in the first page for the keyword "potato tomato cabbage cauliflower and carrot" without backlinking. I'm not getting any visitors tho.:confused:
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            • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
              Originally Posted by Ben Acharyaa View Post

              Good work!!! i also rank in the first page for the keyword "potato tomato cabbage cauliflower and carrot" without backlinking. I'm not getting any visitors tho.:confused:
              Well, I have 1 word and it definition next to your picture that will rank you on page #1
              never mind 10 words.

              cauliflower???
              Hmm, by looking at your Avatar, you maybe right, there is some likeness.



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  • Profile picture of the author seococonuts
    The good news is there aren't thousands of link sources to clean up.

    With a bit of work, this can be rectified quite easily really.
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  • Profile picture of the author reeve95545
    Originally Posted by Dmreed4311 View Post

    This site was ranked #1 for a long time, I never had to do any offsite SEO because it is a small market and it ranked on its own, Well now this site is gone and no where to be found. A quick look at google webmasters tells a tale.
    URL pleasE? It seems like your site is down, nothing to do with Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    I would venture to say that massive ranking drops are caused more often by issues with backlinks than from any other cause. I really cannot imagine anyone would argue with that.
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    • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I would venture to say that massive ranking drops are caused more often by issues with backlinks than from any other cause. I really cannot imagine anyone would argue with that.
      I wish people were clear about what ranking they are talking about Ranking in SERP or in PR
      that slimy green gif on GTB.

      For argument sake, can you be clear which one is on your mind?



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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    And good luck proving that backlinks make up less than 1% of a site's ranking. I would love to see some evidence proving that.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    I'm not looking for sites ranking for junk with no backlinks. Show us a site in a highly competitive niche ranking with no backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I'm not looking for sites ranking for junk with no backlinks. Show us a site in a highly competitive niche ranking with no backlinks.
      Junk? Not according to SERP

      Well, lets define "no backlinks".
      Can we claim that 0 to 5 backlinks site have "no backlinks"?
      or
      Can site with PR 0 or 1 considered to be a site with "no backlinks"?



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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Nowhere in this conversation was anyone talking about PageRank, but you can't have PR without links.
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    • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      Nowhere in this conversation was anyone talking about PageRank, but you can't have PR without links.
      Of course SERP.
      OK, try Google for: strongest web directories
      and look for bestdirectorieslist.com right next to our amray.com



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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

        Of course SERP.
        OK, try Google for: strongest web directories
        and look for bestdirectorieslist.com right next to our amray.com



        fastreplies
        Not a competitive search term.

        And both of those sites have tons of backlinks, so I don't understand what your point is.
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        • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          Not a competitive search term.

          And both of those sites have tons of backlinks, so I don't understand what your point is.
          Of course " not competitive".
          Then what is for that sort of web site you would call "competitive"?
          Be my guest, tell me.

          What tons are you talking about?
          bestdirectorieslist.com has 5 backlinks...
          5 backlinks, amongst 20 sites around it with PR 5 and higher, are you kidding me?

          Now about: best directories list on page #1, still not good?

          As to AMRAY Directory, it's just happen to be in the neighborhood, we have it
          normally on page #1. Check: free listing



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            Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

            As to AMRAY Directory, it's just happen to be in the neighborhood, we have it
            normally on page #1. Check: free listing
            Doesn't even show up in Google SERPs for that keyword.
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            • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              Doesn't even show up in Google SERPs for that keyword.
              My G. has it in 4 place just below Yahoo





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              • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

                My G. has it in 4 place just below Yahoo
                I think your getting personalized SERPs. I manually checked & also used Rank Checker, no go...

                Anyways, I'm in the US east coast & your domain doesn't show up anyplace in Google SERPs for the keyword free listing.



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                • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
                  Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                  I think your getting personalized SERPs. I manually checked & also used Rank Checker, no go...
                  Personalized? Believe not me, believe your eyes.
                  Not even close, I don't have G's. Webmasters account any longer.
                  And what about result in Asia?

                  BTW free web directories and free web directory here in Canada AMRAY on page #1



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                  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                    Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

                    Personalized? Believe not me, believe your eyes.
                    Not even close, I don't have G's. Webmasters account any longer.
                    And what about result in Asia?

                    BTW free web directories and free web directory here in Canada page #1



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                    Great If you care about Asian/Canadian traffic, not great If you care about east coast US traffic.
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                    • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
                      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                      Great If you care about Asian/Canadian traffic, not great If you care about east coast US traffic.
                      I just talk to my friend in Michigan, he has it on page #1
                      web directories he has it on page #1, here in Canada I have it on page #3.

                      So, I guess Google is making some kind of dance and song routine or it's trying
                      to drive us to alcoholism.



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                      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                        Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

                        So, I guess Google is making some kind of dance and song routine or it's trying
                        to drive us to alcoholism.
                        Maybe that's the problem, I'm checking the SERPs while being sober.
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              Doesn't even show up in Google SERPs for that keyword.
              Shows up at #6 here, checking from Asia.

              @OP:

              But it's totally irrelevant as they have 1000's of back links and wasn't this about sites that rank without links?

              bestdirectorieslist has 72.000 back links btw
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              • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                @OP:

                But it's totally irrelevant as they have 1000's of back links and wasn't this about sites that rank without links?

                bestdirectorieslist has 72.000 back links btw
                It's not totally irrelevant, he's not ranking with links.
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                • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                  Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                  It's not totally irrelevant, he's not ranking with links.
                  Ah that's the feeder of links don't work
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                  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                    Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                    Ah that's the feeder of links don't work
                    I didn't say links don't work. I said his links apparently don't work. Not the same things.
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              • Profile picture of the author Ben Acharyaa
                Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                Shows up at #6 here, checking from Asia.

                @OP:

                But it's totally irrelevant as they have 1000's of back links and wasn't this about sites that rank without links?

                bestdirectorieslist has 72.000 back links btw
                I just stopped when spyglass went over 25k. Not really sure what this guy is trying to prove.

                Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                I think your getting personalized SERPs. I manually checked & also used Rank Checker, no go...

                Anyways, I'm in the US east coast & your domain doesn't show up anyplace in Google SERPs for the keyword free listing.
                Its not personalized serp Yuke its there in the first page. although completely irrevelant as the domain has tons of backlinks.
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                • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                  Originally Posted by Ben Acharyaa View Post

                  Its not personalized serp Yuke its there in the first page. although completely irrevelant as the domain has tons of backlinks.
                  I don't know why you guys are seeing him ranked, he's not ranked where I'm at.

                  I checked with both Chrome Incognito & Rank Checker, same results.

                  Lol, I even posted a screenshot of what I'm seeing.
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              • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
                Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                Shows up at #6 here, checking from Asia.
                Thanks for checking.
                Can you check: free web directories for AMRAY



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                • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                  Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

                  Can you check: free web directories for AMRAY
                  Your ranked #36 (east coast, US).
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  • Profile picture of the author DizenSounds
    Its quite simple, if you didn't build or pay for the links on the porn sites (or other sites) then your site was targeted.

    Were you previously ranking well and that's why you have been targeted?
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    Originally Posted by Dmreed4311 View Post

    I never had to do any offsite SEO because it is a small market and it ranked on its own
    Build some decent links or scrap the domain & start over. It's only a 4 page EMD site & you said you haven't built links.

    Current SERP positions:
    • carpet cleaners riverview fl = 52
    • carpet cleaning = -0
    • carpet cleaning riverview = 55
    • carpet cleaning riverview fl = 89

    BTW, the junk links wasn't something that just recently happened (ex: April 1, 2013).


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