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Should I need to pay for SEO?

by deborahright
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Should I need to pay for SEO? Now due to the recent Google planning, if your content is unique, if you know how to use meta tags then you can easily acquire good rank and more than that, there is GoogleAdwords which will automatically enhance page.
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  • Profile picture of the author squadron
    Originally Posted by deborahright View Post

    Should I need to pay for SEO? Now due to the recent Google planning, if your content is unique, if you know how to use meta tags then you can easily acquire good rank and more than that, there is GoogleAdwords which will automatically enhance page.
    Short answer is yes. You need to pay with money or applied knowledge over time.

    To rank in a competitive market you will still need backlinks that the Google ranking software "likes".

    Google Adwords is certainly an option. Just make sure the numbers make sense.

    eg. If you are paying $1 per click for a potential lead for a $9.95 ebook then maybe not. If, on the other hand, you are paying $3.25 per click for a potential lead on a $300,000 reconditioned Lear jet engine, then maybe Adwords is for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author GodMode52
    Short answer is lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author bigcat1967
    Learn SEO yourself...never trust anyone else...
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    • Profile picture of the author patco
      Originally Posted by bigcat1967 View Post

      Learn SEO yourself...never trust anyone else...
      I fully agree with this! I also prefer doing it myself, I can always help others, but I prefer working on my own websites in order to be 100% sure that if I get something wrong, I won't hurt other people's websites!
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by strategic seo services View Post

        I agree that you should learn SEO yourself, so that you can know which outsourcers you can trust.
        If all buyers knew SEO that would put profile link sellers out of business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oscarfishlover
    Learning the basics of SEO is all most people really need. Obviously if you are setting up a very important website that requires a position at number one on Google then you will obviously have your work cut out. However, it's really not difficult to learn how to create decent page headings, using the correct keywords that relate to your website's content. If your website falls into a niche category then your life will obviously be made easier because you haven't got so many people in competition with you. There are tons and tons of websites and you Tube videos that will give you really great advice on how to optimise your website for the search engine.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEODollz
    There are two types of people that get Google penalties:

    1) Churn and burn spammers that know going in that they are breaking the rules but it's worth it to them

    2) Do-it-yourselfers that learn only enough to get in trouble

    Oh wait ok there is a third:

    3) Business owners that hire the cheapest possible "SEO" and have no idea that they re sending their site to the slaughterhouse (but they should really know better, you get what you pay for.)

    So my vote is : either take 6 months to a year to seriously study basic SEO on your own, enough to at least reasonably understand the risks or hire a good SEO with a great track record and references.
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    • Profile picture of the author pizzacashmon3y
      Originally Posted by SEODollz View Post

      There are two types of people that get Google penalties:

      1) Churn and burn spammers that know going in that they are breaking the rules but it's worth it to them

      2) Do-it-yourselfers that learn only enough to get in trouble

      Oh wait ok there is a third:

      3) Business owners that hire the cheapest possible "SEO" and have no idea that they re sending their site to the slaughterhouse (but they should really know better, you get what you pay for.)

      So my vote is : either take 6 months to a year to seriously study basic SEO on your own, enough to at least reasonably understand the risks or hire a good SEO with a great track record and references.
      this is the best answer in this thread. take 6 months to a year and use that time as "education" to become a master at seo.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Originally Posted by deborahright View Post

    Should I need to pay for SEO?
    Do you know how to do SEO yourself? If so, then no. You will not need to pay for it. If you do not know how to do it, but want better rankings, then yes. You are going to need to pay someone.

    Originally Posted by deborahright View Post

    Now due to the recent Google planning, if your content is unique, if you know how to use meta tags then you can easily acquire good rank
    Meta tags do nothing for rankings. Unique content is not enough either.

    To be honest, I do not think Google cares about unique content nearly as much as people think. There are something like a few trillion webpages out there right now and growing. How many different ways are there to write an article about how to change a door knob? But should that mean someone's article is less valuable than another? I don't think so. As the internet grows more and more there is going to be very little out there published that is 'unique' outside of news stories and new and emerging markets.

    Originally Posted by deborahright View Post

    and more than that, there is GoogleAdwords which will automatically enhance page.
    AdWords does nothing for enhancing your webpage.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      AdWords does nothing for enhancing your webpage.
      and thats besides the fact that most businesses will end up spending far more on adwords
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    • Profile picture of the author Oscarfishlover
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post


      To be honest, I do not think Google cares about unique content nearly as much as people think. There are something like a few trillion webpages out there right now and growing. How many different ways are there to write an article about how to change a door knob? But should that mean someone's article is less valuable than another? I don't think so. As the internet grows more and more there is going to be very little out there published that is 'unique' outside of news stories and new and emerging markets.



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      I wouldn't exactly describe a websites about "changing a doorknob" as being unique :-)

      If Google themselves having said that they favour unique content, do you know something we don't?
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by Oscarfishlover View Post

        If Google themselves having said that they favour unique content, do you know something we don't?
        Mike probably knows more than you've forgotten.
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      • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
        Originally Posted by Oscarfishlover View Post

        If Google themselves having said that they favour unique content, do you know something we don't?
        I think there's misconception about unique. It's very probable that my stupid comments that I use to soil WF threads are "unique", at least when I choose to use needlessly long sentences and use obscure phrases that are not in the top 2000 of most used English words. Nobody in their right minds would visit a site that consisted only of my forum comments.

        Unique in the sense of "words not exactly in the same order" isn't a way to get a readership. Heck, not plagiarizing or copying other people's stuff isn't even a starting point, but common courtesy. The fact that Cutts has to say something like that makes me embarrassed for the mankind.
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        • Profile picture of the author Oscarfishlover
          Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

          I think there's misconception about unique. It's very probable that my stupid comments that I use to soil WF threads are "unique", at least when I choose to use needlessly long sentences and use obscure phrases that are not in the top 2000 of most used English words. Nobody in their right minds would visit a site that consisted only of my forum comments.

          Unique in the sense of "words not exactly in the same order" isn't a way to get a readership. Heck, not plagiarizing or copying other people's stuff isn't even a starting point, but common courtesy. The fact that Cutts has to say something like that makes me embarrassed for the mankind.
          I suppose you could ask yourself what is unique nowadays? It seems to me that you can find just about everything on the Internet

          Personally, I don't think I would pay for SEO unless I relied on a website to make a living.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonB
    Originally Posted by deborahright View Post

    Should I need to pay for SEO? Now due to the recent Google planning, if your content is unique, if you know how to use meta tags then you can easily acquire good rank and more than that, there is GoogleAdwords which will automatically enhance page.

    There's a little more to it than just unique content and meta tags, sorry to say..

    But, if you do the SEO yourself, no need to pay, right?

    Have someone else do it, I'm sure you will have to pay..
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  • Profile picture of the author broty
    If you have good content then do SEO yourself. This is easy way to optimized your website.
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    • Profile picture of the author SEODollz
      Originally Posted by broty View Post

      If you have good content then do SEO yourself. This is easy way to optimized your website.
      Did you even READ the thread??

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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by deborahright View Post

    ... if you know how to use meta tags then you can easily acquire good rank ...

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    • Profile picture of the author IMdeaming
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      God that is hilarious
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryKowalsky
    Even if you have a knowledge, you must paid for SEO, becouse good software often is expensive.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nana O
      I would say it's all really dependent. What is your knowledge of SEO? Do you understand white hat and black hat techniques? Backlinks? On-site optimization? Google Places page optimization? Map maker? The list continues... Some of the above I cannot agree with because it's more than meta-tags and content, however, all important.

      My recommendation is learn the basics. Get familiar with the search engines' guidelines and have a good base understanding of the SEO world. This gives you a better look at what you can and can't handle. Yes, there are a lot of SEO companies that are looking for a quick buck and will use any type of terrible technique to have you rank for a day or have you end up with a penalty on your website, which BELIEVE ME, is the WORST.

      I'm proud to say I am a part of a company that prides themselves on using the right way to do things because really all you have is your word right? Point, blank, period, from all aspects, do you research!
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Originally Posted by deborahright View Post

    Should I need to pay for SEO? Now due to the recent Google planning, if your content is unique, if you know how to use meta tags then you can easily acquire good rank and more than that, there is GoogleAdwords which will automatically enhance page.
    Well I ain't gonna do it for free

    Unique content and meta tags ain't gonna rank you, no idea who told you that.

    Google Adwords is a complete different traffic source, you can't compare that to organic rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hrkjds
    Originally Posted by deborahright View Post

    Should I need to pay for SEO?
    Do you steal foods from shops? or You get foods free of cost?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tashiads
    If you don't want to rank, then ofcourse you don't need to pay for SEO... keep that money...
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  • Profile picture of the author DivyaRai
    Even Google hides some of the tactics because of the spammers, Using the keywords again and again people started to spam whole website contents. So Google bought new algorithm to against keyword stuffing. So they always hide some of techniques to avoid spamming.
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  • Profile picture of the author Deepak Kaushik
    I like to suggest you try to learn SEO yourself and just start online promotion.
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    • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
      Originally Posted by SureNot View Post

      Why do you even need a SEO expert save the money and read what Google wants it's out there for free. Google has lots of DOCs where you can find the exact formula to success. How come SEO experts help others and for some reason can't help themselves think about it. I run a small forum and I can tell you one thing do you know how many offers I receive on a daily bases hundreds of them from so called SEO experts claiming to help me increase my Google ratings BS all the want is our money, I would rather spend that money on advertising and will get a better result.
      You better be wearing your flame-retardant underwear after that post, boyo!
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

        You better be wearing your flame-retardant underwear after that post, boyo!
        Nah. new sign up with 4 posts plugging a forum no one has heard about and doesn't rank for its keywords isn't likely to need any big rebuttal. Too low in credibility. Probably from here on in will be ignored by most.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketMaster13
    It's not necessary. But if you hire SEO Professional , they can boost your ranking and provide you technical recommendation to increase your SERP. So if you have competitive keywords, it's worth pay for SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author p4laddi
    I think by simply asking this question means you need to pay someone to do it for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author azzedinejamal
    Buddy I'm sure you also know the answer. (YES)
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  • Profile picture of the author koubain
    The answer is 50/50
    You must learn some SEO tricks to do it yourself and let the hard part to outsourcing
    that's what I do
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  • Profile picture of the author Vietnam VA
    Yes if you don't have much time to do, time pressure to improve your website's ranking is low.
    And no if you don't have time. You must hire some people to do this job jor you.

    Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author seoschool
    No one is need to pay just for SEO. SEO Comprises on 3 parts,
    1st keywords searching,
    2nd content writing
    3rd Link building
    Anyone can do this job with a little bit knowledge.
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  • Profile picture of the author anoopsparx
    Just adding the quality content and meta, you are not going to complete your goal. you should hire technical seo expert, because they optimize your website technically, that help to gain ranking fast.
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  • Profile picture of the author biznics
    Originally Posted by deborahright View Post

    Should I need to pay for SEO? Now due to the recent Google planning, if your content is unique, if you know how to use meta tags then you can easily acquire good rank and more than that, there is GoogleAdwords which will automatically enhance page.
    I don't think this would be the case if:

    1. you have a competitive niche
    2. if you have set long term goals


    Basically, this is a misconception (still) among many people out there who only have a slight idea about what SEO is about (for them, adding keywords and metas are just fine).

    But my friend, let me tell you one thing straight. SEO is not a game of amateurs anymore. If you are serious with your business and do everything with a plan, I would suggest you hire a good SEO agency or at least keep yourself up-to-date with the ever-changing SEO techniques.

    For more, I'll be happy to assist.
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  • Profile picture of the author ajaypandey
    You can learn SEO online and then you can promote your website own self.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    No, it should be free, just like cars, food and houses.
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    Before furry animals let loose by the big G began mugging in broad daylight, SEO was easy to do and could be learned in six months but game has changed and good SEO experts with tricks and websites up their sleeves can do wonder but the dilemma is that wolf in sheep's clothing are just as numerous as the real thing among the SEO crowd so distinguishing the good one is hard to do.
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