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If I weren't laughing I'd be crying.

Google really are frustrating. I had an amazon "review" site with a number of reviews on and some other related articles. Anyway the site was probably 6 months old and was sitting around page 2 for the main keyword when I decided to build some links to it.

Long story short, it gradualy moved up and hit #1 just into the new year and in that time made about $200. It sat there for around 2 weeks then disappeared. Anyway I wasn't worried, just thought it would come back in a few days, but it didn't.

I checked site:www.mysite.com and sure enough I'd been deindexed. I don't use webmaster tools because I try to give them bar stewards as little info as possible. So anyway I think I'll add the site now to see what it says. I add the site to webmaster tools and apparently my site is "pure spam" and I need to sort it out.

I haven't got the time or desire to bow down to G and grovel so I just binned the domain and put the site on a new one. I'm not redirecting the old site or anything like that I'm just starting afresh with the original content and doing a few things different.

One thing I did was I cloaked the amazon links before, not to hide anything but just because they look more tidy. I'm not this time.

Another thing was that a manual reviewer would likely spot 1 of the articles was obviously copied and rewritten from another site even though it passed copyscape, whatever good that is. So I won't be using that article this time, the others are all unique.

Other than that, that's all I can think of that might have been wrong. I would say they also counted my backlinks against the site but I'm pretty sure they haven't.

It's not the fact that my site was deindexed what is frustrating but the fact it only happened when I hit the top spot and was taking their traffic. The only real things that were wrong as far as I can tell were the 1 article, and cloaking affiliate links. Still I have the idea that no matter how willingly I play by those bar stewards rules they'll still find a reason to penalise a site that monetises any of their traffic, unless I'm paying for it, but we'll wait and see.

I know it's annoying when it happens, I mean I've been penalised before not deindexed, but it's kind of fun really, like a game of cat and mouse, don't you think?
#google #laugh #make
  • Profile picture of the author JRJWrites
    "If there's one thing that can make or break your online business, then you need to rethink your business."

    - Me.

    I'm sorry for your loss. Maybe next time, you could spread your eggs around in different baskets.
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    • Profile picture of the author alistair
      Originally Posted by JRJWrites View Post

      "If there's one thing that can make or break your online business, then you need to rethink your business."

      - Me.

      I'm sorry for your loss. Maybe next time, you could spread your eggs around in different baskets.
      Yes you're right, but don't misunderstand me because not all my eggs are laid in Googles basket, just one or two.
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  • Profile picture of the author Meharis
    Originally Posted by alistair View Post

    "like a game of cat and mouse, don't you think?"
    I guess by now, you know who's the looser in that game.
    You did mention you have been penalized before...

    Meharis
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  • Profile picture of the author Rbtmarshall
    Using shady methods, gets deindexed.. I don't see any issue here,
    . just stop buying fast money methods being sold by people who only make money by selling you information on the marketing loopholes.
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    • Profile picture of the author alistair
      Originally Posted by Meharis View Post

      I guess by now, you know who's the looser in that game.
      You did mention you have been penalized before...

      Meharis
      Who hasn't been penalised before? Never say never.

      Originally Posted by Rbtmarshall View Post

      Using shady methods, gets deindexed.. I don't see any issue here,
      . just stop buying fast money methods being sold by people who only make money by selling you information on the marketing loopholes.
      I haven't bought any make money methods for I can't remember how long, and I never bought that many in the first place. Sound advice though.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        I think there was more too it then just 1 rewritten article and cloaked links.

        Although I haven't seen your site I would bet my money on it and that your site only contained (short) product reviews, all written in the same style / layout and multiple affiliate links per page and perhaps also some additional banners in either sidebar and/or footer.

        Correct me if I'm wrong of course.

        The fact that you got deindexed when ranking at #1 is probably a poor coincidence.

        I once had an Adsense site deindexed and it was the most terrible Adsense site I ever build, I don't think it ever received a manual review. Just something the algorithm can detect although not 100% sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
    Banned
    1. Copied articles
    2. Doorway pages
    3. Amazon affiliate
    4. Junk
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    • Profile picture of the author alistair
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      I think there was more too it then just 1 rewritten article and cloaked links.

      Although I haven't seen your site I would bet my money on it and that your site only contained (short) product reviews, all written in the same style / layout and multiple affiliate links per page and perhaps also some additional banners in either sidebar and/or footer.
      How much are you willing to bet because I don't mind taking your money?

      I don't know what you would class as short reviews. Mine were about 800 words as an average I suppose.

      They were all written in basically the same style and layout, but that's not pure spam, that's normal.

      1 or 2 affiliate links on each review, no banners anywhere on the site.

      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      I'm wrong of course.
      Corrected.

      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      The fact that you got deindexed when ranking at #1 is probably a poor coincidence.
      Maybe, but it's a bit surprising they hit it so quick. I think it had to do with cloaked affiliate links myself, and possibly the article as apparently they're classed as pure spam, both of which I hold my hands up to.

      I find it interesting that they hit mine so quick but all those adjustable dumbbell sites are still up even though there's about 3,000 of the muppets all competing with each other and so obviously using blog networks. Still, good luck to them.

      Anyway, I'm not bitter, it's part of the fun.

      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      1. Copied articles
      2. Doorway pages
      3. Amazon affiliate
      4. Junk
      I agree with all those points.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        What I do these days is about half of the content monetized and the other half are how to guides, top 5/10 best lists linking to individual product reviews, comparison pages and so on. In case it's a juicer site just to name something I would add juicer recipes.

        I always avoid cloaking and only use unique written content and out of my 30 Amazon sites none have been deindexed thus far.

        This additional non monetized content makes the site appear more real and all articles vary in size with multiple images / video's added.

        For the reviews I use the post format, and the non reviews are published as pages, the homepage is also a static homepage instead of a collection of reviews.

        Besides that I try to pick either a brand name or a partial EMD like: "hairdryersplaza.com" or something like that. All this helps to make it look less spammy.
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        • Profile picture of the author alistair
          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          What I do these days is about half of the content monetized and the other half are how to guides, top 5/10 best lists linking to individual product reviews, comparison pages and so on. In case it's a juicer site just to name something I would add juicer recipes.

          I always avoid cloaking and only use unique written content and out of my 30 Amazon sites none have been deindexed thus far.

          This additional non monetized content makes the site appear more real and all articles vary in size with multiple images / video's added.

          For the reviews I use the post format, and the non reviews are published as pages, the homepage is also a static homepage instead of a collection of reviews.

          Besides that I try to pick either a brand name or a partial EMD like: "hairdryersplaza.com" or something like that. All this helps to make it look less spammy.
          That's basically what I do now, except for using cloaked links which I'm not going to do now and using posts for all reviews and articles.

          This is the first site I've had deindexed. I've still got others that kept their rankings through Panda and Penguin that only have reviews on them, but finally got hit when the last major Penguin update rolled out I think it was, but these all have cloaked links. I never built links to any of them except one but they're still hanging around about page 5.

          I'm just guessing a competitor reported this site and that's why it had a manual review. Deindexing it seemed a bit harsh but that's the way it is, but I'm just throwing it back up with some changes just to see what happens this time.
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