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Ranking Smaller Sites

by AffiliatingAlan
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For the people that produce various 5-10 page sites and scale them up appropriately if they show potential. What is your linking strategy to initially get them to rank?

Good content and low competition long tail keywords is not enough by itself to get you to rank.

So many "old" methods (tiered link building, etc) are dramatically less effective and I cant picture someone manually grinding out blog comments, profile links, web 2.0s (which are less effective now) (+ would take hours) for a site that is one of ten they will be making this month.

So for people that fit this criteria what are you doing? Is the only option here a PBN? Buying Link Packages? What is the secret here?
#ranking #sites #smaller
  • Profile picture of the author yoangov
    Good content and low competition long tail keywords is not enough by itself to get you to rank.
    I Disagree. If you do not overoptimize your keywords, you shall rank in top200 for your KWs AT LEAST without any backlinks whatsoever.

    Social signals have always been working quite well for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
      Originally Posted by yoangov View Post

      I Disagree. If you do not overoptimize your keywords, you shall rank in top200 for your KWs AT LEAST without any backlinks whatsoever.

      Social signals have always been working quite well for me.
      Which is going to drive almost zero traffic, unfortunately. The goal should always be to get to page 1. And from there, the top 3.

      To the OP, plenty of the "old" methods still work just fine in theory. You just need to be willing to twist things up a little and accept a slightly greater risk in tanking your site. Just don't put all of your eggs into one basket. (In other words, don't rely on just one website. Crank out a handful and rank them.)
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
    For the people that produce various 5-10 page sites and scale them up appropriately if they show potential. What is your linking strategy to initially get them to rank?

    Good content and low competition long tail keywords is not enough by itself to get you to rank.

    So many "old" methods (tiered link building, etc) are dramatically less effective and I cant picture someone manually grinding out blog comments, profile links, web 2.0s (which are less effective now) (+ would take hours) for a site that is one of ten they will be making this month.

    So for people that fit this criteria what are you doing? Is the only option here a PBN? Buying Link Packages? What is the secret here?
    Hi,
    If i want to get any site ranked then i'll use quality content keyword with higher monthly search and other manual strategies for ranking like Web2.0,Social bookmarking etc etc and after that i'll buy backlinks from High Pr sites are more helpful.
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    • Profile picture of the author AffiliatingAlan
      Originally Posted by yoangov View Post

      I Disagree. If you do not overoptimize your keywords, you shall rank in top200 for your KWs AT LEAST without any backlinks whatsoever.

      Social signals have always been working quite well for me.
      By rank i mean first page. I released my site 3 days ago and im ranking 75th for main keyword atm. I want to be in top 10.

      Originally Posted by Moneymaker2012 View Post

      Hi,
      If i want to get any site ranked then i'll use quality content keyword with higher monthly search and other manual strategies for ranking like Web2.0,Social bookmarking etc etc and after that i'll buy backlinks from High Pr sites are more helpful.
      1.) DO web 2.0's hold any weight still?
      2) High PR sites like?
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    • Profile picture of the author hmmricha
      Originally Posted by Moneymaker2012 View Post

      Hi,
      If i want to get any site ranked then i'll use quality content keyword with higher monthly search and other manual strategies for ranking like Web2.0,Social bookmarking etc etc and after that i'll buy backlinks from High Pr sites are more helpful.
      Have you bought high PR links ??
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  • Profile picture of the author Samuel Adams
    Why should your SEO strategy be different for a ten page site than it would be for a 100 or 1000 page site? You still want the same results and that is top placement in Google search for your chosen keyword. Put the same effort into the SEO as you would if the site were already populated with lots of content. And, then just keep adding more content regularly as you go along. If you added one new short article daily, you would have many hundreds of pages by the end of the first year.
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    • Profile picture of the author AffiliatingAlan
      Originally Posted by Samuel Adams View Post

      Why should your SEO strategy be different for a ten page site than it would be for a 100 or 1000 page site? You still want the same results and that is top placement in Google search for your chosen keyword. Put the same effort into the SEO as you would if the site were already populated with lots of content. And, then just keep adding more content regularly as you go along. If you added one new short article daily, you would have many hundreds of pages by the end of the first year.
      Theres a big difference. If it was an authority site typically less backlinks are needed to be made by you. You can rely more on social, etc.

      If its a small niche site you have to do more work on your own.
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  • Profile picture of the author online only
    Originally Posted by AffiliatingAlan View Post

    For the people that produce various 5-10 page sites and scale them up appropriately if they show potential. What is your linking strategy to initially get them to rank?

    Good content and low competition long tail keywords is not enough by itself to get you to rank.

    So many "old" methods (tiered link building, etc) are dramatically less effective and I cant picture someone manually grinding out blog comments, profile links, web 2.0s (which are less effective now) (+ would take hours) for a site that is one of ten they will be making this month.

    So for people that fit this criteria what are you doing? Is the only option here a PBN? Buying Link Packages? What is the secret here?
    I build small sites, but not THAT small. I usually have 20-30 indexed pages with valuable and juicy content. This is something that costs at least $70 per 500 words. In addition to that, I also build all types of power pages, tools, visual assets that I pitch to different people via email outreach.

    All in all, I invest approx $2k - $3k per site, including custom design... and I go for mainstream keywords (15k+ monthly searches + highly profitable).

    I don't build web2.0 nor do I buy link packages or use PBN-s. Anything that can be "bought" (especially packages) are not worth a dime in long-term. Profile links and blog comments are not my cup of tea either. It's more or less churn and burn method.
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  • Profile picture of the author patco
    Originally Posted by AffiliatingAlan View Post

    For the people that produce various 5-10 page sites and scale them up appropriately if they show potential. What is your linking strategy to initially get them to rank?

    Good content and low competition long tail keywords is not enough by itself to get you to rank.

    So many "old" methods (tiered link building, etc) are dramatically less effective and I cant picture someone manually grinding out blog comments, profile links, web 2.0s (which are less effective now) (+ would take hours) for a site that is one of ten they will be making this month.

    So for people that fit this criteria what are you doing? Is the only option here a PBN? Buying Link Packages? What is the secret here?
    Excuse me, but what is PBN?

    It's not that hard to rank small websites. Profile backlinks, Social bookmarks, blog comments will do the trick!
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by AffiliatingAlan View Post

    For the people that produce various 5-10 page sites and scale them up appropriately if they show potential. What is your linking strategy to initially get them to rank?
    You'll need to have 100% external links ranking the pages, the same as any new site regardless how large the site is. Every bit of link authority originates from external links (all of it).

    The advantage of a larger site is spreading the inbound external link authority across multiple relevant internal pages & ranking for additional keywords (more bang for your buck).
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  • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
    Worrying about links before you've got beyond 10 pages is probably a bad way of thinking. Link building ISNT dead, but doing it badly is.

    PBN are working. But do you need them? That's down to your skills.

    If you've got the skills to make use of PBN then do it, if you don't then don't.

    Only way you're gonna know is test and track.
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