Creating safe back-links in 2014?

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Hello All,

Long time, no posting. I gave up on SEO around a year ago with the introduction of Panda, Penguin and Hummingbird as I was fairly confident that this trade is dead. But it seems I was wrong, trying to get back into it, what still works?

What are strong backlink methods in 2014, from memory these were the best approaches:

Used to work:
Tiered Linking
Social Media Mentions
Article Submissions (As part of a tiered linking approach).
Links from high DA Sites
Relevant Links (Whatever the heck this ever meant).
Copy competitor backlinks

Died with updates:
Forums Links
Blog Comments
Link spamming

Mostly, i'm interested in how 'Article Submissions with Tiered linking' work still. For example, posting an article, linking that article up and pointing it to the site. Still work or a bad idea?

Please tell me if i'm wrong on any of this, i've a lot to learn after being out for a year.
#2014 #backlinks #creating #safe
  • Profile picture of the author Cerf
    Web 2.0's when done smart. Social shares & bookmarks. Expired domains.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Tovey
      Thanks for the report, can you define 'when done smart' or suggest a good read for this? Expired domains are something i've tried to avoid as finding a good one can take weeks.
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      • Profile picture of the author Cerf
        Originally Posted by Paul Tovey View Post

        Thanks for the report, can you define 'when done smart' or suggest a good read for this? Expired domains are something i've tried to avoid as finding a good one can take weeks.
        Web 2.0 have to have quality content, images, videos. They have to look and feel like real blogs.
        Valuable expired domains are available every day, when i do scan through them some nights, i found some good and some bad, there are some that i dont need so i can send couple of them for you, hit me a private message.
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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Tovey
          I did have an array of Web 2.0 Blogs at one point in 2012, around 5 I believe, but by the time I finished writing my weekly content for all of them, I barely had any time for anything else. Do you keep these updated manually?
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven J Wilson
          Originally Posted by Cerf View Post

          Web 2.0 have to have quality content, images, videos. They have to look and feel like real blogs.
          Valuable expired domains are available every day, when i do scan through them some nights, i found some good and some bad, there are some that i dont need so i can send couple of them for you, hit me a private message.
          Cerf,
          To my understanding, when a domain is expired all the links associated to it no longer have any weight. What is you take on this?
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            Originally Posted by Steven J Wilson View Post

            Cerf,
            To my understanding, when a domain is expired all the links associated to it no longer have any weight. What is you take on this?
            That is not true at all.
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            • Profile picture of the author Cerf
              Originally Posted by Steven J Wilson View Post

              Cerf,
              To my understanding, when a domain is expired all the links associated to it no longer have any weight. What is you take on this?
              Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

              That is not true at all.
              Wrong mr Wilson, correct mr Friedman
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              • Profile picture of the author Paul Tovey
                Used to work:
                Tiered Linking
                Social Media Mentions
                Article Submissions (As part of a tiered linking approach).
                Links from high DA Sites
                Relevant Links (Whatever the heck this ever meant).

                That's your problem, you don't know what a good link looks like. Figure that relevant link out & you'll stop building junk links. Entire site relevance is stronger than a single relevant page on the backlink domain.
                Ah! That's exactly the problem, this has always confused me for 2 reasons.

                1) A couple of people on a Christianity forum are looking for internet marketing, one forum member posts a link to my website and recommends me. Is this relevant or not? Even if we KNOW it's relevant, will Google really see a link from christianityworld.com to me as relevant? (Note: completely made up name).

                2) I doubt asking another SEO for a link from there website to mine is going to work very well, people are very tight with followed links, especially SEO's! Or am I wrong? Any tips?
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                • Profile picture of the author apcpk
                  Guest blogging at niche related high PR sites is always good and effective method to get do follow quality backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author online only
    Real links from real webmasters have worked/will work always
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Tovey
      Real links from real webmasters have worked/will work always
      This has always been the best way I agree, however, I have -never- found this even remotely possible to achieve, any tips?
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  • Profile picture of the author gzeus
    1) similar site backlink profile
    2) link bait (controversy or useful apps)
    3) forums, social for direct traffic

    Originally Posted by Paul Tovey View Post

    This has always been the best way I agree, however, I have -never- found this even remotely possible to achieve, any tips?
    Create something people find useful or interesting, so they share or mention you, either on their own or after you contact them.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by Paul Tovey View Post

    Used to work:
    Tiered Linking
    Social Media Mentions
    Article Submissions (As part of a tiered linking approach).
    Links from high DA Sites
    Relevant Links (Whatever the heck this ever meant).
    Copy competitor backlinks
    That's your problem, you don't know what a good link looks like. Figure that relevant link out & you'll stop building junk links. Entire site relevance is stronger than a single relevant page on the backlink domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author warriordream
    so what's really good to create backlinks for our website?
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by warriordream View Post

      so what's really good to create backlinks for our website?
      We're not able to read minds. There's not nearly enough information to give any suggestions.
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      Links in signature will not help your SEO. Not on this site, and not on any other forum.
      Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

      What's your excuse?
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  • Profile picture of the author sanusense
    Spy your competitor and get those backlinks first, make sure they are not spammy !!! Atleast , my competitors are not like spam bots
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  • Profile picture of the author WebMeUp
    You know, as Google evolves, we must evolve and with it and so must our link building practices.

    But generally, Google is still the same link based search engine, and links are at its DNA. But with the evolution Google acquired the ability to detect link spam patterns. Link and anchor text manipulation on any level are no longer an option if you want to progress in SERP.

    Some of the link building techniques you mentioned are still working (if you approach them the right way).

    For example, forum and blog commenting - if you leave really useful comments and the link in them is relevant, that will help you drive lots of targeted traffic to your site. Competition research is also a great way to discover relevant high-quality backlink sources.

    But what you should focus on is:

    1 Awesome content - produce outstanding, mind blowing content and share it via social websites, relevant forums and blogger outreach to encourage links.
    2 Broken link building - is a great way to get juicy links.
    3 Guest blogging. Matt Cutts said it's over? Spammy guest blogging - yes. But if you produce high-quality sharable guest posts, it can give your site a huge ranking boost!
    2. Develop relations with your niche influences - these days it's getting truly important in order to achive sustainable results.

    Hope you will find these tips useful.
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  • Profile picture of the author QWE
    What works best now is private blogs. But you must do it in a balanced way. It seems Google penalizes a site if the site is simply growing backlinks and not the content. You need Google a reason to have backlinks.

    I wrote a blog about this:

    What to do after Penguin 2.1 and Hummingbird
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by QWE View Post

      It seems Google penalizes a site if the site is simply growing backlinks and not the content.
      Not true.





      Originally Posted by QWE View Post

      Seriously (What to do after Hummingbird)?

      What's the answer, read the newspaper, walk the dog, watch TV?
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      • Profile picture of the author QWE
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        Not true.

        Seriously (What to do after Hummingbird)?

        What's the answer, read the newspaper, walk the dog, watch TV?
        This is from my own experience. I've been tracking over 20,000 keywords for my clients. I think this is a good data set.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesse Kemper
    It all still works, simply everything in moderation. If you really want to be safe, just promote awesome content and focus on ways to get people to link naturally. Most of the time you'll be pretty safe if your backlinks come naturally.
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    Although, matt said about guest blogging. I still have good result with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Tovey
    1) A couple of people on a Christianity forum are looking for internet marketing, one forum member posts a link to my website and recommends me. Is this relevant or not? Even if we KNOW it's relevant, will Google really see a link from christianityworld.com to me as relevant? (Note: completely made up name).

    2) I doubt asking another SEO for a link from there website to mine is going to work very well, people are very tight with followed links, especially SEO's! Or am I wrong? Any tips?
    I'm still confused about this part.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bigeasy504
    Question... What do I do once I purchase an expired domain with good pr and backlinks thats relevant to my main website? Should I do a 301 redirect to my main site (giving me more links??) or should I simply keep it up and going and build new content every so often with links on the homepage to my main site??? ANY HELP IS APPRECIATED
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