Speedy page rank increase

17 years ago

May be your domain age helped you to get this PR. G does consider domain age while calculating PR and older domains are valued more.

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Preben Frenning

17 years ago

Pagerank can be RANDOM. Especially for old domains.

What's the domain name?

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mloveridge17

17 years ago

I guarantee PageRank is NOT random. Whoever believes that is fooling themselves. It is 100% algorithmic.

That said, it is impossible to determine exactly what happened without looking at the blog. My first guess is that someone started linking to your articles, since backlinks are among the biggest indicators of "influence" with google. Another possibility is that a page linking to your site just started doing some awesome SEO stuff and drastically boosted their PageRank, passing a small portion of that good PageRank to your site through the link.

Like I said, it's impossible to determine exactly what happened without seeing the domain or the blog. But let me assure it is NOT random.

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Ben@SearchFit

17 years ago

Originally Posted by mloveridge17

I guarantee PageRank is NOT random. Whoever believes that is fooling themselves. It is 100% algorithmic.

That said, it is impossible to determine exactly what happened without looking at the blog. My first guess is that someone started linking to your articles, since backlinks are among the biggest indicators of "influence" with google. Another possibility is that a page linking to your site just started doing some awesome SEO stuff and drastically boosted their PageRank, passing a small portion of that good PageRank to your site through the link.

Like I said, it's impossible to determine exactly what happened without seeing the domain or the blog. But let me assure it is NOT random.

You are referring to public PR. It is a well known fact in the SEO industry that the PR Google publishes tp the public is not the one they use internally. So the previous poster who said the public one is heavily linked based is correct.

I have a list of clients with varying PR and I will tell you that I have some PR 2s that do more traffic for more competitive Keywords than my PR 6s.

My advice is take public PR with a grain of salt. Focus on SEOing your sight correctly and monitor query results.

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Preben Frenning

17 years ago

Well, agreed. I didn't mean it's random really.
But I know people with PR 4 blogs, who's kept on doing the same things as always, yet their pagerank have dropped to 2.

However, it might feel random.
Inlinks have a major impact, and so does linking structure, content, etc.

Now I'm not a PR "guru", but it makes sense that "Pagerank" (After Larry Page from Google, NOT the "page") is based on an algorithm.

Btw, older domains tend to jump a lot more with their PR than new ones.
I'm sorry for saying it was random. Didn't mean it that way :p

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jlaw6402

17 years ago

I think people need to stop caring about page rank so much. It's seriously not that important.

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chakrur4i

17 years ago

@op

if you are not that interested in the site do consider selling it, you now got PR3 status and you can well be on your way as the domain is too old you can sell it for a great price and start with a new project

regards

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Bob Monie

17 years ago

A lot of old websites share this trait due to the serps scraper doorway page site epademic of the early to mid 00's.

The programs that created these spammy VRE sites would scrape the search engine serps and use the top 10 - 20 ranked sites as keyword rich content. These doorway pages in turn made the listings into links on the pages.

Was so painfull because the top ranked sites would then get thousands and thousands of links from these scraped doorway pages, cementing their position in the top 20.

thankfully Google banned %90 of the scraper doorway sites

The PR3 could possibly come from the remaining scraper sites that are indexed.

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dorim

17 years ago

Originally Posted by Bob Monie

A lot of old websites share this trait due to the serps scraper doorway page site epademic of the early to mid 00's.

The programs that created these spammy VRE sites would scrape the search engine serps and use the top 10 - 20 ranked sites as keyword rich content. These doorway pages in turn made the listings into links on the pages.

Was so painfull because the top ranked sites would then get thousands and thousands of links from these scraped doorway pages, cementing their position in the top 20.

thankfully Google banned %90 of the scraper doorway sites

The PR3 could possibly come from the remaining scraper sites that are indexed.

My site is not a VRE site and there is nothing spammy about my site; its a site providing info for women who want to start a business. It's been online since 1999 and I recently turned it into a WP blog.

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bgmacaw

17 years ago

Originally Posted by dorim

My site is not a VRE site and there is nothing spammy about my site; its a site providing info for women who want to start a business. It's been online since 1999 and I recently turned it into a WP blog.

It wouldn't be your site but sites scrapping your site giving you links.

Another thing that can happen is that a site that had been linking to your site suddenly got a boost in PR for some reason and this carried over to your site.

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Bob Monie

17 years ago

Originally Posted by dorim

My site is not a VRE site and there is nothing spammy about my site; its a site providing info for women who want to start a business. It's been online since 1999 and I recently turned it into a WP blog.

You totally misunderstood what I said. Sorry I wasnt clearer, was tired when i wrote it.

The scraper sites may have scraped your sites link from the search engine results. Thus linking back to your website giving you the PR3.

If you go back and read what i wrote in my last post, it might make more sense now.

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Steven Heron

17 years ago

Your PR increase would most likely be due to a link, or links, you recently received. Short answer I know, but it's most probably what happened.

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Smokey_Joe 17 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Heron

Your PR increase would most likely be due to a link, or links, you recently received. Short answer I know, but it's most probably what happened.

PR is pure links, so that is the only thing that could have happened
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redfc

17 years ago

Dorim,
You can find out using the link : www yourwebsitename com to check who is linking to you. If you can find some high ranking site (maybe 5 and above) then its high chances some of the existing site link to yours had rise in page rank.

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CDawson

Banned 17 years ago

Social bookmarking is your friend, if you have alot of posts (or only 5-10 posts) I would social bookmark all of them unless you have already. Doing this will up ur rank and give you more backlinks.

If you intend to do social bookmarking, I would suggest using socialmarker.com (they have all of the most popular social bookmarking sites all in one).

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brp002

17 years ago

Page rank is important if you are trying to rank high for short keywords.

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birdfood 17 years ago

Originally Posted by brp002

Page rank is important if you are trying to rank high for short keywords.

haha so you are basically saying page rank is important :p
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cctravis

17 years ago

Damn page rank is really important? JK

It can be confusing sometimes but I think that age of domain is a important factor and a little content and a few inbound links can jump a older domain name higher then a new one. Just my thoughts.

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saggy23

17 years ago

I think a highly optimized site with high PR has linked you back which helped you to get high PR. Also it's very true that Google always gives importance to old domains.

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micron

17 years ago

Originally Posted by saggy23

I think a highly optimized site with high PR has linked you back which helped you to get high PR. Also it's very true that Google always gives importance to old domains.

I agree with you old domains will get pagerank very speed.If you do more work on your site then definetly it will even increase

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Preben Frenning

17 years ago

Yeah, older domains can get PR much quicker, and with less efforts than newer ones.
A few inlinks, and a little content might be enough. Even link-trading can boost the PR of sites like that. (That was really popular a few years ago)

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dorim

17 years ago

My page rank has decreased to zero since installing a new blog about a month ago. So I went from a page rank of 1 to a page rank of 3 and then down to zero in the span of six weeks.......

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dburk

17 years ago

Originally Posted by dorim

My page rank has decreased to zero since installing a new blog about a month ago. So I went from a page rank of 1 to a page rank of 3 and then down to zero in the span of six weeks.......

Hi dorim,

If you did not maintain the same link structure or 301 redirect your old URLs you are essentially starting over from scratch. You have lost the benefit of all those backlinks to your old URLs.

Check your server logs, if you are still getting traffic to the old URLs it will show up as 404 errors. You can modify your .htaccess file to redirect those inbound links to a current page on your new website.

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webpromoterservice

17 years ago

Originally Posted by dorim

My blog went from a page rank of 1 to a page rank of 3 within a few days and I haven't done anything to the blog except put up a few PLR articles and some articles from Caffeinated Content a few months ago. How is this possible? I was actually thinking of selling the domain because I've had it for ten years and I've been unable to come up with any moneymaking ideas for the site.
Its a business woman's domain, and I lost interest in the site a few years ago and let it sit. Its only been a blog, using the Busy Bee theme, since last Fall, before that it was an informational portal......

Congratulations...it seems to be something harder and harder to do these days online.so much competition out there.

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