Best Link Building Service?

10 years ago

The ones that penalize your site or may not probably wont really have any negative effect on ranking youtube videos if that helps. Ranking youtube videos is much easier then ranking webpages.

As for link building services there are tons out there it all depends on your budget and what you are looking for. Warriors for hire is a good place to start.

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twilightofidols 10 years ago

If you are looking for "link building services" you are looking in the wrong place. What you need is a complete SEO solution for your site.

Pretty much any "link building service" assuming the provider knows what they are doing is going to help you most for churn and burn SEO.

If you are trying to rank for the long-term it's better to hire a legitimate SEO company, or learn how to do SEO yourself.
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alvinchua91

10 years ago

twilightofidols hit it right on the nail. 'Link-building services' are for churn and burn SEO.

If you're willing to spend on link building services, I strongly recommend you spend that same money on a good SEO firm to help you instead.

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TotalWebsiteControl

10 years ago

Originally Posted by alvinchua91

twilightofidols hit it right on the nail. 'Link-building services' are for churn and burn SEO.

If you're willing to spend on link building services, I strongly recommend you spend that same money on a good SEO firm to help you instead.

What "SEO FIRM" do you recommend ?

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JSProjects

10 years ago

Originally Posted by CPAMoney

hello, I have just tried link emperor for my link building service and a lot of people say it penalizes your websites from google, so im not 100% sure if that is true or not. Anyways, im wondering if there is a very good alternative link building service that ranks your websites well. Thanks if anyone knows!

EDIT: also a any good ones to rank youtube videos on google?
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YouTube videos are a totally different animal when it comes to ranking in Google. (I've got more than 20 on the 1st page at the moment.)

My experience is that quantity > quality in this case, which is pretty rare. If you can swing the price look at something like GSA Search Engine Ranker. It can build a lot of links FAST once you get the hang of it.

This can change at any time though. And I suspect that it will soon.

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RedShifted

10 years ago

Ceasar SEO is a pretty good imo. You can find him in the WSO section. His service is far from perfect, but he's one of the best services I've found on WF.

Just keep in mind that he games Google like many on WF, he's a public provider, so your site can lose rank at anytime. Which is why I keep back up sites ready and aged. With that said, I've seen him keep sites ranking for more than 2 years. And you can make good money with his service if you target wisely and know what you're doing.

For something safer and more long term, if you're willing to invest the money, I'd go with Mike Friedman. His lowest rates are 10xs the cost of Ceasar SEO, but he is 10xs more credible. And I trust him a lot more. I haven't tested him yet but I definitely plan on testing him in the near future.

I have also used "resultfirst.com". They're a decent company. They do really clean whitehat SEO, and they're fairly expensive, but there is very little risk of penalties. With that said, you don't really get the "blast" you get with more blackhat services that are using blog networks.

For youtube videos, I don't order any SEO services. All you need is GSA strapped behind a VPS or dedicated server. I just blast thousands of links / day to each video and 90% of them rank #1 on Google. I also do retention views, likes and comments. Once they're up they will rank forever as long as I maintain backlinks.

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nik0 Banned 10 years ago

I suppose Link Emperor can work for Youtube video's, I would never point it at a money site though as your site probably can't handle all the spam that it creates.
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10 years ago

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MikeFriedman 10 years ago

Originally Posted by strategic seo services

Read through the reviews

Actually, whatever you do, I would not trust the reviews. Look at what kind of links they are building and make your decision based on that.

If someone is selling .EDU and .GOV links, for example, you know they are selling trash.

Same goes for forum profile links, blog comments, wiki links, and social bookmarks.

Most people leaving reviews are pretty clueless. They don't come back a few months later after their site has tanked to update the review. Also, link service buyers are often buying from different providers at the same time. They couldn't tell which service caused their site to tank if they wanted to.
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- nik0 Banned 10 years ago
  
  What Mike said is pretty spot on.
  
  I see it myself as well, clients that leave a review a week after the links are placed some times, I ain't gonna complain about it of course as I know my service works well enough but reviews are definitely not the most reliable way to determine the quality of a service.
  
  Better ask questions like:
  
  - What type of links do you build?
  - If from a private network, are they surrounded by unique content?
  - What's the OBL?
  - How long do they stay on the homepage?
  - Are it all Wordpress site or also other platforms / CMS's that you use?
  etc.
  
  If not from a private network then you're finished asking as you won't get true whitehat SEO on this forum, so then it would only be weak links at public sites that hardly help you.
  
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yukon

Banned 10 years ago

All you have to do is look at your own link profile, then sample a few of the older existing links from other domains, use Rank Checker to search a few domains + anchor text. Is anyone else with the same/similar link profile ranking for their target keywords?

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rwhite10

10 years ago

I would think twice about using a link building service since Google change last year. I am hearing that is a easy way to be penalized.

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nik0

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by rwhite10

I would think twice about using a link building service since Google change last year. I am hearing that is a easy way to be penalized.

Yeah you can better not rank at all and give your competitors a chance to make more money!

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TZ

10 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

Yeah you can better not rank at all and give your competitors a chance to make more money!

Well I have been an anti-linker for years and rely on creating a lot of pages that Google likes that are long tail on local. This method has been very successful in that none of our sites have been hit by Google in a negative way.

It's safe and we make a modest amount of money still even after all Google's big changes. Still between $4500-$5000 a month from search traffic, but there have been many people here on the forum who have tried to explain to me how much more we could make if we did some linking - I just don't want to take any chances and we're happy to fly below the radar with a decent income. We don't have day jobs and some of our advertisers rely on our traffic too.

THAT all said though - when I use back link checkers like AHREFS it's obvious that 80% of our traffic comes from pages that have inbound links going to them. We didn't create any of these links, and as a site starts gaining links VERY slowly as good content continues to be published traffic keeps growing.

Patience is a huge deal in our business. Whenever we publish new content there is a magic time period before the spike in traffic hits - 8 months. Sure there are little spikes the go up an then down in the 8 month waiting period, depending on the niche, but it never fails, in 8 months there is large spike.

I recommend that newbies do build a pure white hat site and forget about linking on that one - just call it an experiment - just be patience and keep adding great content. You will be pleasantly surprised.

Nowadays I think trying to create your own backlinks is perilous at best.

The only kind of linking that ever worked for us though was sending press releases to newspapers, and all it takes is for a couple real newspapers to publish a story on your business and the results are huge. Painstaking for sure because you have to have a site that provides a unique service that is "NEW".

TZ

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nik0

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by TZ

Well I have been an anti-linker for years and rely on creating a lot of pages that Google likes that are long tail on local. This method has been very successful in that none of our sites have been hit by Google in a negative way.

It's safe and we make a modest amount of money still even after all Google's big changes. Still between $4500-$5000 a month from search traffic, but there have been many people here on the forum who have tried to explain to me how much more we could make if we did some linking - I just don't want to take any chances and we're happy to fly below the radar with a decent income. We don't have day jobs and some of our advertisers rely on our traffic too.

THAT all said though - when I use back link checkers like AHREFS it's obvious that 80% of our traffic comes from pages that have inbound links going to them. We didn't create any of these links, and as a site starts gaining links VERY slowly as good content continues to be published traffic keeps growing.

Patience is a huge deal in our business. Whenever we publish new content there is a magic time period before the spike in traffic hits - 8 months. Sure there are little spikes the go up an then down in the 8 month waiting period, depending on the niche, but it never fails, in 8 months there is large spike.

I recommend that newbies do build a pure white hat site and forget about linking on that one - just call it an experiment - just be patience and keep adding great content. You will be pleasantly surprised.

Nowadays I think trying to create your own backlinks is perilous at best.

The only kind of linking that ever worked for us though was sending press releases to newspapers, and all it takes is for a couple real newspapers to publish a story on your business and the results are huge. Painstaking for sure because you have to have a site that provides a unique service that is "NEW".

TZ

You are a unique example, 99.9% of the people don't like to wait 8 months for the first results while not knowing if the results will even come.

Most of my clients are either local businesses or affiliate marketeers, both groups have a hard time achieving natural links, no matter how great their site is, sure the local plumber might get some links from dealerships and can do some donations in the neighbourhood but once the city becomes a bit large that's far from enough to rank based on.

Waiting is not an option for local businesses as that would cost money (missed income).

For affiliate marketeers it could be an option, depending on what type of niche they are in, but they rather make money yesterday then tomorrow so it will be a tough call to convince them to wait.

Luckily there are plenty of whitehat methods that don't force you to wait, link outreach, broken link building, press releases, paid traffic to get the ball rolling, but for that you need a quality site

You want to see some of my client sites?

I won't show obvious but you get the point!

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TZ

10 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

You are a unique example, 99.9% of the people don't like to wait 8 months for the first results while not knowing if the results will even come.

Most of my clients are either local businesses or affiliate marketeers, both groups have a hard time achieving natural links, no matter how great their site is, sure the local plumber might get some links from dealerships and can do some donations in the neighbourhood but once the city becomes a bit large that's far from enough to rank based on.

Waiting is not an option for local businesses as that would cost money (missed income).

For affiliate marketeers it could be an option, depending on what type of niche they are in, but they rather make money yesterday then tomorrow so it will be a tough call to convince them to wait.

Luckily there are plenty of whitehat methods that don't force you to wait, link outreach, broken link building, press releases, paid traffic to get the ball rolling, but for that you need a quality site

You want to see some of my client sites?

I won't show obvious but you get the point!

Yep - I agree 100% - we have 7 clients for our SEO services and we do have to do some linking but it's quality over quantity for sure. We can't afford to tank their sites.

One link that I always get for our client out of the gate is from their local chamber of commerce - great results with that. Ironically that is a paid link, but so far Google seems to give that one a pass.

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gasura

10 years ago

I run my own SEO business too and I can tell you one thing for sure - most SEO businesses outsource their offpage SEO to some link-builders who are normally based in Philippines or India. Other countries I have seen include US, Brazils, Indonesia, Pakistan and more. Before I started my own SEO business I went to a few interviews at established local SEO agencies (who are now my competitors of course) and all of them do the same thing.

Anyone who tells you link-building gets you penalized doesn't know what they are talking about. Off-page SEO is essentially all about building links and network no matter how fancy people (especially those from top SEO forums which I won't name for apparent reasons) try to make it sound.

The question is not to build links or not, but rather how to build links the right way. Right way = SEO effective + cost effective. Surely you can spend 60hrs each week on "proper whitehat" SEO, but no company does that, because it simply isn't cost effective. Big SEO companies may hire people to build every single link manually, but you can sure that who they are hiring are not local.

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