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Doesn't anyone else feel that SEO is completely inefficient?

It takes years to rank a website well for a decent keyword. There's so many other quick ways to drive traffic to your website yet everyone stresses over SEO. I think that SEO is overrated and is also the reason so many beginners to internet marketing fail to earn. These beginners stress over ranking their website well and fail to see any results after months and months even though their content had potential. Eventually due to the lack of success and therefore motive, they quit.

Am I the only one who feels this way?
#seo #time #waste
  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    I hope everyone feels the same as you do and quits. Yes all of you reading this, just quit now. I will give you $1 for each of your sites and domains. pm me I've just emptied my inbox.

    I wonder if I read this post before I knew wtf I was doing, would I quit?

    When I thought I knew everything and I was the dogs bo$$ocks, but in reality I didn't know anything outside of what the man in the sales video and the software with the "Click Here To Rank" button told me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Karol Z
      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      I hope everyone feels the same as you do and quits. Yes all of you reading this, just quit now. I will give you $1 for each of your sites and domains. pm me I've just emptied my inbox.

      I wonder if I read this post before I knew wtf I was doing, would I quit?

      When I thought I knew everything and I was the dogs bo$, but in reality I didn't know anything outside of what the man in the sales video and the software with the "Click Here To Rank" button told me.
      Pretty sure you got the wrong message. I'm not telling people to quit IM. I'm simply stating that SEO is inefficient for beginners and takes a very long time to see results. In my opinion search engine traffic is not the best way to go, all I'm saying.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Originally Posted by Karol Z View Post

        Pretty sure you got the wrong message. I'm not telling people to quit IM. I'm simply stating that SEO is inefficient for beginners and takes a very long time to see results. In my opinion search engine traffic is not the best way to go, all I'm saying.
        You can blame an un-policed pool of random opinion, un-proven methods and a large sea of misinformation for that. It's not really SEO's fault.

        To rank well you need good links, it's that simple. Keyword rich editorial anchor text nested in relevant content. On a relevant domain too can be an extra added bonus.

        The problem most people encounter is the salesman's careful twist of words, to make you think what you are buying or getting into is in fact a producer of "good links". And most public providers are not selling those kinds of links I'm afraid.

        But if you ask the salesman, most will tell you straight out that they simply can't get the types of paying customers that would cover the costs of purchasing those types of links.

        I give SEO sellers a lot of stick in this section. But at the end of the day, if a real business owner is foolish enough to buy into something so hyped.

        Then it's their mistake to make.
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    • Profile picture of the author online only
      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      I hope everyone feels the same as you do and quits. Yes all of you reading this, just quit now. I will give you $1 for each of your sites and domains. pm me I've just emptied my inbox.

      I wonder if I read this post before I knew wtf I was doing, would I quit?

      When I thought I knew everything and I was the dogs bo$, but in reality I didn't know anything outside of what the man in the sales video and the software with the "Click Here To Rank" button told me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Originally Posted by kid carson View Post

        I'm curious what this pro charged you. Would you mind sharing what the price was?
        Only $39 a month with 2000 free Social signals and a super pinger indexer extreme blast.
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        Originally Posted by online only View Post

        Instant rankings!
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        Yes, and if I don't deliver you get your $5 back. :p
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        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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          Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

          Only $39 a month with 2000 free Social signals and a super pinger indexer extreme blast.
          All spam is created manually.



          Yes, and if I don't deliver you get your $5 back. :p
          I see your still ranked #1.
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  • Profile picture of the author twilightofidols
    I totally agree everyone who is a beginner shouldn't do SEO because it's inefficient. (Yes moar monies for me!!!)
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    • Profile picture of the author MarketMaster13
      Originally Posted by twilightofidols View Post

      I totally agree everyone who is a beginner shouldn't do SEO because it's inefficient. (Yes moar monies for me!!!)
      This is not true. People who just start up a website should try their best with SEO or pay someone to get some work done. You can't just leave it.
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  • Profile picture of the author BWHadam
    if you do it right its not useless.

    here is a simple trick for you.

    select the long tail keywords and go local , lets say abc product/service in pricex in city xyz
    have an excellent offer, satisfy your customer, you ll grow and convert the organic traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    SEO for beginners is only inefficient If they're out chasing things that don't rank pages & expecting those same things to rank pages.

    Example, social, likes, views, bookmarks, etc... all useless for ranking pages but you still see people blasting away... because they don't have a clue what they're doing.

    Nobody starts out with something new & becomes an instant expert, skills take time & experience, just like anything else in life. Buy the original Karate Kid movie & see what MR. Miyagi says, wax on, wax off...
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  • Profile picture of the author Daones
    For some people it might seem like wasting time, tons of work and you dont even know if you can get the rankings you want. But then again ranking high in Google is basically free traffic (not having to pay for adwords) so it can pay off in the long run. I guess thats why many give up or resort to spammy methods.
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    • Profile picture of the author Electrical
      I paid a pro for SEO and it's a waste of time. But I was told that it's not working well enough because I am not paying enough.

      All I want are 3-5 calls per week, I think that is a pretty low number. Yet I am only getting 8 visitors from my state per month to my website. And this month, none of those 8 people called lol...
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      • Profile picture of the author Daones
        Originally Posted by Electrical View Post

        I paid a pro for SEO and it's a waste of time. But I was told that it's not working well enough because I am not paying enough.

        All I want are 3-5 calls per week, I think that is a pretty low number. Yet I am only getting 8 visitors from my state per month to my website. And this month, none of those 8 people called lol...
        Yea local SEO can be a double edged sword, on one hand you have less competition compared to global keywords but on the other hand much less searches. I have a few local seo clients, try targeting local sites to get links even contractor directories (judging from your profile) and get your site listed there. People say directories are a waste but I know one contractor he has mostly contractor/construction/local business directories for links and hes #1.
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        • Profile picture of the author Electrical
          Originally Posted by nationsubmit View Post

          Yea local SEO can be a double edged sword, on one hand you have less competition compared to global keywords but on the other hand much less searches. I have a few local seo clients, try targeting local sites to get links even contractor directories (judging from your profile) and get your site listed there. People say directories are a waste but I know one contractor he has mostly contractor/construction/local business directories for links and hes #1.
          So I should register on all of these sites?

          http://blog.hubspot.com/blog/tabid/6...rectories.aspx
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by Electrical View Post

            So I should register on all of these sites?
            Look at your niche competition citations & build your own custom list.

            Here's a tutorial from Mike Friedman.



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            • Profile picture of the author Electrical
              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              Look at your niche competition citations & build your own custom list.

              Here's a tutorial from Mike Friedman.

              That's great, thanks.

              I finally learned what a citation is

              Since I am only doing it for my website, I chose to manually search for competitors citations like someone mentioned in the comments of the video. But I was able to use everything that Mike talked about in the video to better understand what is going on.
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              • Profile picture of the author Wealthyclark
                I understand the OP's frustration and why he feels that way. There's so much crap teachings all over the web, mostly over complicating it for people like myself 16 years ago and the OP today. Spin this, buy that, LSI for this, use this to index that. In my opinion most of this crap was brought about by people looking to make money teaching people how not to make money.

                Stick to the basics and everything will fall into place. Create unique, naturally written, useful content, place it on your website or blog, allow it to be indexed. Indexing will usually happen without you doing anything because your website gets listed on a list of sites provided by your hosting company. If you must manually index, simply bookmark the page.

                Submit your content to directories with the intentions of having it syndicated. Mix a little paid advertising in the mix (optional). Do this a few times and you will have a successful web property sooner than you think. It really can be that simple.

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                • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                  Originally Posted by Wealthyclark View Post

                  Stick to the basics and everything will fall into place. Create unique, naturally written, useful content, place it on your website or blog, allow it to be indexed. Indexing will usually happen without you doing anything because your website gets listed on a list of sites provided by your hosting company. If you must manually index, simply bookmark the page.

                  Submit your content to directories with the intentions of having it syndicated. Mix a little paid advertising in the mix (optional). Do this a few times and you will have a successful web property sooner than you think. It really can be that simple

                  Pie in the sky and not real world. Sorry if you build it they will not come. if all you had to do was drop content in directories then people would be killing it. No sense in selling people a false dream
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      • Profile picture of the author Blaine Smitley
        Originally Posted by Electrical View Post

        I paid a pro for SEO and it's a waste of time. But I was told that it's not working well enough because I am not paying enough.

        All I want are 3-5 calls per week, I think that is a pretty low number. Yet I am only getting 8 visitors from my state per month to my website. And this month, none of those 8 people called lol...
        I'm curious what this pro charged you. Would you mind sharing what the price was?
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  • Profile picture of the author Sunganani
    No you are not the only one. Then there are the scary stories about Google this and Panda that. Makes you wonder if SEO is dead.
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    • Profile picture of the author SEO Eddie
      Originally Posted by Sunganani View Post

      No you are not the only one. Then there are the scary stories about Google this and Panda that. Makes you wonder if SEO is dead.

      It's definitely not dead. And it's certainly not a waste of time. It can take a lot of time and experimentation to learn how to do it well and efficiently though. Most people are best off finding an affordable expert to do the work for them if they have a product or service that will sell.
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  • Profile picture of the author OfficerIM
    Yes you are the only one who feels this way. Smart people get traffic using all channels. You're over thinking the situation.
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  • Profile picture of the author patco
    This is called by NEWBIES! Professionals know that SEO is the BEST way to drive traffic to your websites especially if the right keywords were chosen... But if you think that it's not efficient nowadays, better don't do it, but do NOT say that it's useless!
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    • Profile picture of the author Karol Z
      Originally Posted by patco View Post

      This is called by NEWBIES! Professionals know that SEO is the BEST way to drive traffic to your websites especially if the right keywords were chosen... But if you think that it's not efficient nowadays, better don't do it, but do NOT say that it's useless!
      SEO is the best long term solution, I agree. What I'm saying is that everyone stresses SEO is the only option. What ends up happening is that a lot of the beginners get caught up in trying to rank well, and ignore all the other short term solutions to getting traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author DPM70
    If I had an "electrical" company out in the real world I wouldn't be fannying about with google and "local search listings".

    If you have a business that does good work and provides value for money you should be out on the street, placard in hand, telling folk exactly what you do and why you are good at it. Fart-arsing around on the internet isn't where you should be focussing. Maybe when you have some profit under your belt you should come back and expand for leads but not if you're struggling for bread and butter like you seem to be suggesting.
    It's not a magic show. The old ways still work the best and this line of online can help you to grow but isn't the be-all and end all - I so hope you realize that soon.
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    • Profile picture of the author Electrical
      Originally Posted by DPM70 View Post

      If I had an "electrical" company out in the real world I wouldn't be fannying about with google and "local search listings".

      If you have a business that does good work and provides value for money you should be out on the street, placard in hand, telling folk exactly what you do and why you are good at it. Fart-arsing around on the internet isn't where you should be focussing. Maybe when you have some profit under your belt you should come back and expand for leads but not if you're struggling for bread and butter like you seem to be suggesting.
      It's not a magic show. The old ways still work the best and this line of online can help you to grow but isn't the be-all and end all - I so hope you realize that soon.
      So I should be out in the street with a bullhorn? Which street?

      Fart-arsing around the Internet has been so fun up til now, I don't know if I'll be able the stop.
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      • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
        Originally Posted by Electrical View Post

        So I should be out in the street with a bullhorn? Which street?

        Fart-arsing around the Internet has been so fun up til now, I don't know if I'll be able the stop.
        No way. Ignore what that guy said.

        SEO is not even close to a waste of time. It is massively profitable if you know what you're doing. You just paid someone who doesn't know what they're doing... because you yourself don't know much about SEO.

        If you pm me your site I can probably tell you in 5 minutes what you're doing wrong and why you're not getting traffic. And I don't sell SEO. I do it for my own business. I'm not an expert, but I know how to drive leads.

        With local SEO, it's all a numbers game. You have to attack hundreds of keywords at once, and rank for them all if you really want a lot of business. I use to say the same exact thing as you. "I only need 3-5 calls a week". Now I get that many leads every day and that's still not enough for me. No amount of leads is ever enough because no amount of money is ever enough.

        If you want some help, as a fellow New Jersian I'll give you some guidance.

        You can get 3-5 calls a week easily just with 1 YT channel targeting 50-100 geotargeted keywords. And you can easily rank those videos using GSA then drive the traffic back to your site. If you start now, in 1-2 months you can reach your goal. And you can pay me with referrals down the road once you start getting business. =]

        -RS
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by DPM70 View Post

        OK maybe I should have made it clear that "out on the street" was a euphemism for "get off your fat arse"
        well thats pretty judgmental. For all you know the guy might be at the gym and have a slim well toned arse (not that I am a connoisseur of such things since I prefer the other gender's form)

        Originally Posted by Electrical View Post

        So I should be out in the street with a bullhorn? Which street?
        There maybe a little something to that but not on the streets - more like seeking links on businesses in your city and state. Those will bring a little local traffic too plus it comes across from a small site as an endorsement. I do sometimes thing local is over rated a little bit for some fields. I think most people consult another tradesmen or friends and family when looking for any kind of contractor. However businesses may not
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        • Profile picture of the author Electrical
          Alright, let's just clear the air here. To the typical Englishman who is jealous of all Americans, I have a very nice and toned ass, thank you.

          FWIW, I have existing customers who I continually do work for and who also refer me to their friends and family. Referrals are the absolute best source of new work. Not only are they free, but I am able to close 100% of them because the customer wants me to do the work based off of the referral, they aren't just shopping around for prices.

          In addition to that, I have left a stack of my business cards and/or flyers in every establishment that would accept them in a 4 town radius. Bulletin boards in grocery stores, counters in delis, the side of the soda fridge in pizzerias.

          My trucks are rolling billboards. When I am not at a customer's house or on the road, they are parked on heavily traveled streets.

          But that's not enough, so I have asked everyone possible what way is the best to advertise. Everyone and every thing said website and SEO. Even tho old contractors who have been working the area for 40 years have taken that $12,000 they used to put into yellow page ads and put it into their website and SEO instead and say how much better the results are. Old ladies use Google too now, the internet is where to advertise, or so I am told.

          I realistically only want about 5 calls per week. I have a very good close rate on calls from my website so 5 calls would put me where I want to be. FWIW, my close rate is 80% on calls from my own website while it was about 20% on calls from Craigslist ads when I used to run them (not anymore). The problem is that my own website has died off and I'm barely getting any calls from it anymore.

          I don't want too much more because than I have to worry about being able to man the work. I don't want to put any more men to work nor do I want to buy another truck.

          FWIW, I spent about 8 hours last night making citations on all kinds of local websites.
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  • Profile picture of the author DPM70
    OK maybe I should have made it clear that "out on the street" was a euphemism for "get off your fat arse"
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  • Profile picture of the author Syed Raza
    It depends
    if you looking to built your list using your capture page then there is nothing SEO but if you are making your blog and want to blog daily then SEO is must because it generates a lot more traffic than paid once
    Best OF Luck !
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  • Profile picture of the author JonesMurray
    So what can you do to improve your ranking efforts in search results? SEO is now became a very factor to gain more traffic and generate sales leads.
    Search engine optimization is ever evolving and changing. Rumors are easily passed around, and panic can spread like wildfire in this industry. The number one rule of thumb should truly be, "Wait and see."
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  • Profile picture of the author Nail Yener
    Originally Posted by Karol Z View Post

    Doesn't anyone else feel that SEO is completely inefficient?

    It takes years to rank a website well for a decent keyword. There's so many other quick ways to drive traffic to your website yet everyone stresses over SEO. I think that SEO is overrated and is also the reason so many beginners to internet marketing fail to earn. These beginners stress over ranking their website well and fail to see any results after months and months even though their content had potential. Eventually due to the lack of success and therefore motive, they quit.

    Am I the only one who feels this way?
    No, you are not. I wasted a lot of time into SEO both for my own projects and for others (I am talking about building artificial backlinks here, on page SEO and natural link building is all welcome). And about two years ago I realized that even if it brought results in the short term, the overall activity was nothing but a waste in the long term so I stopped building artificial backlinks for myself and for others and it is the advice I have been giving to everyone.

    You may get results by building artificial backlinks, you may make good money by doing that for your own websites or for your clients but I personally prefer to invest that time/resources into creating more and better content because it is what I have full control over.
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  • Profile picture of the author XenG
    SEO is still important. Just this April, our site had a total breakdown. Our account with max cdn expired and there was a shutdown of the w3 total cache. Someone did fix it by turning the plugin off. That very day, Google webmaster tool sent a message saying they couldn't crawl our site. Traffic slipped down big time. Worst, other plugins were also turned off including our Greg's High Maintenance SEO. It's an important plugin as most of our posts and pages have been optimized with that. When I turned it back on, traffic didn't increase right then and then. Traffic stopped slipping down. It maintained a certain level and then slowly got up back again. Today, it's still fighting the current, but traffic keeps only increasing, just not on the pace we're expecting though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Logan
    Actually I do agree with you. Rather than spending all this time, money and energy doing 'SEO', spend your time creating good content and apply other traffic sources to your site.

    Backlinks are still important, so it is worth dedicating some time to make new connections with similar authority sites but this is pretty much it as far as SEO concerns.

    I would rather go with social medias, creating a buzz, trying to satisfy visitors, attract regular readers, establish relationships with them and eventually Google will do its job too!


    Originally Posted by Karol Z View Post

    Doesn't anyone else feel that SEO is completely inefficient?

    It takes years to rank a website well for a decent keyword. There's so many other quick ways to drive traffic to your website yet everyone stresses over SEO. I think that SEO is overrated and is also the reason so many beginners to internet marketing fail to earn. These beginners stress over ranking their website well and fail to see any results after months and months even though their content had potential. Eventually due to the lack of success and therefore motive, they quit.

    Am I the only one who feels this way?
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  • Profile picture of the author ketul
    Most of people agree with you. Because it is a time consuming process. You can never get instant result. If you want to get top position, you should need to proper planning about keyword selection, on page optimization and off page optimization.
    New guys in this field are not understand how SE works, but experienced people know how to generate backlink and traffic to site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Riaafroz
    Sorry to say that I don't agree with you.SEO is not a waste of time still now but if someone can't build up quality backlinks than it is obviously waste of time for him.
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    • Profile picture of the author geom2000
      Well after reading all the coments You can say that SEO Search engine optimization is about créate good and useful content, then Google Will pick You, readers Will love You, that créate links to your site and they Will Share your content and Google Will love You moré Thats it?

      No wasting money in senuke gsa and things like that, dont spam your site with thousands of crappy links, do I understand Well?
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    You must fail in order to succeed, took me a while to realize that...
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      Originally Posted by larryboy03 View Post

      You must fail in order to succeed, took me a while to realize that...
      You are right and some might fail more than once to understand this but when they do they have the knowledge to succeed!
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  • Originally Posted by Karol Z View Post

    Doesn't anyone else feel that SEO is completely inefficient?

    It takes years to rank a website well for a decent keyword.

    Am I the only one who feels this way?
    I disagree with this statement. If your website is well optimized for your targeted keywords and you build the right backlinks (dofollow, on high pr sites, contextual, relevant, low OBL), you can rank a website within 1 month for a medium-high competitive keyword.
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    • Profile picture of the author MatthewReece
      Originally Posted by strategic seo services View Post

      I disagree with this statement. If your website is well optimized for your targeted keywords and you build the right backlinks (dofollow, on high pr sites, contextual, relevant, low OBL), you can rank a website within 1 month for a medium-high competitive keyword.
      Depends on niche, but everything is possible, i agree.
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      • Profile picture of the author David Taylor
        You think SEO is a waste of time. Because Google think your website is not as well as you think. If your website is well optimized, you will not think SEO is useless.
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  • Profile picture of the author davdwarnner
    SEO is not waste of time
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  • Profile picture of the author Surajrai
    Originally Posted by Karol Z View Post

    Doesn't anyone else feel that SEO is completely inefficient?

    It takes years to rank a website well for a decent keyword. There's so many other quick ways to drive traffic to your website yet everyone stresses over SEO. I think that SEO is overrated and is also the reason so many beginners to internet marketing fail to earn. These beginners stress over ranking their website well and fail to see any results after months and months even though their content had potential. Eventually due to the lack of success and therefore motive, they quit.

    Am I the only one who feels this way?
    Karol, I think SEO is sufficient for those who know how to use it for rank, targeted traffic and desirable success.

    Taking years to rank a website is now old dialogue. Recently Matt Cutts cleared that new website also can beat old one, if it is optimized well according search engines.

    Definitely, there are so many ways to drive traffic but this traffic is valuable for websites. Traffic from social bookmarking sites is useful for e-commerce website. NO

    There is big difference between traffic from search engine and other sources.

    If content has potential then it will more help to rank website. Internet marketing beginners are more smart they know which way is better for them.
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    • SEO is not waste of time. If your site follow Google penguin and Google panda guidelines.
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  • Profile picture of the author cabenb
    I think SEO is important and it will stay so for years to come. More important then SEO however is unique content on your website or blog. With decent SEO (don't overdo) you will rank.
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  • Profile picture of the author geom2000
    But if Seo is not a waste of time , which rules are the one to follow? in order to do a right SEO?
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  • Profile picture of the author reddy183
    Hi,

    SEO is not useless. SE's are increased their Ranking Algorithm death. This is the only way to get free traffic. It will take some time to reach our goals. But it is very useful.

    From,
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    SEO Analyst.
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  • Profile picture of the author dejaone
    SEO is a long term solution for driving traffic, not the only traffic source. For instance free traffic, there're other better sources:

    1) blog commenting
    2) forum posting
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    • Profile picture of the author PBScott
      If you are talking about spending time creating backlinks rather than content. I would agree it is a waste of time. We all need backlinks, but linkable content is vital.

      Creating content without good on page SEO is a recipe for failure.

      When people search "Puppy in a pirate costume." and get your website, there better be a puppy in a pirate costume there, and the better the puppy, the more backlinks you will earn.
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  • Profile picture of the author tantykimi
    SEO is not useless at all. In fact, SEO is one of the most important things when it comes to a website and without it, it's likely you won't get much traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author HarryBajwa
    No, i would not like to agree with your views that SEO is waste of time because i am doing SEO and i always get good ranking on every websbite by creating high quality links and relevant backlinks. remember that if you do all seo activity accoding to search engine guidlines then you will get success.
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  • Profile picture of the author maxdealer
    Now SEO is waste of time. The reason is that for example if you are searching some keyword say T-shirts.
    If you have done SEO on T-shirt keyword, first 3 would be ads. Followed by Offers. Now the issue is that it is difficult to make your portal on top 10 list. So this creates problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author vickyjohn123
    I disagree this...My website is getting good traffic and ranking in 1st page of google for all keywords.. If your doing seo in a proper way, you'll get good results..
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  • Profile picture of the author sheenaroy
    I agree it takes time to rank website well But Seo is actually the long term solution . But if your website is well optimised and build link then you can rank well with in short period of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author YesseniaClemons
    According to me SEO is a good way to get a natural ranking on search engine for your website. Yes, it takes some time, but gives long lasting results. But never use black hat SEO techniques, google hates black hat SEO techniques, don't build spammy backlinks, use white hat techniques, fresh contents and build natural backlinks only. Making use of social media may also help you to get more traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author renart145
    Maybe yes and maybe no. For me, Ranking on search engine or Getting traffic is like building house, Anybody can build house and make the house popular, but the question is "do the engineer check the house? is the house is strong? is the house comes with analysis? is the house last longer compare to other house?" these are the question for us. what I mean is, SEO has its quality to check websites.
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  • Profile picture of the author ManFromUncle
    Not sure on the whole SEO thing to be honest. If the content is there and you have a good mix of links from social networks you should be okay.

    Buying links though, with search engines constantly changing their algorithms is just too much of a risk, one could invest thousands in SEO, one change in the algorithm and then the site no longer ranks. For me I'd personally focus on just the brand and the product, if they stand out people will find you.
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  • Profile picture of the author JebBanna
    SEO is here and it's not going anywhere, maybe there are some other thing that can drive traffic, BUT! if you do your SEO properly you won't ever need them.
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  • Profile picture of the author steveproxy
    I am pointing out the main issue of thread starter , for a beginner in SEO field the analytical skills and other traits such that diagnosing correct issue not develop properly , hence they could not find the correct path and let website down with reverse SEO. Yes we do believe that results take time but its not mean that you do wrong and wait for worst. So better to learn SEO by doing some practical case studies and then the field is bright for anyone. And one more thing SEO is not dead just changed its appearance
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  • Profile picture of the author geegel
    No, SEO is not a waste of time, but in order to do it properly you must understand its limitations: first of all it takes time, second of all it's a zero sum game (there are only that many places on Google's first page of results).

    What this means is that you shouldn't put all your eggs in the same basket and always have several others traffic venues.

    In my opinion PPC, media buying (solo ads and banners), retargeting, and adwords keyword retargeting are your best bet in this exact order if you want traffic NOW.

    Cheers,
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  • Profile picture of the author inetguru_987
    Originally Posted by Karol Z View Post

    Doesn't anyone else feel that SEO is completely inefficient?

    It takes years to rank a website well for a decent keyword. There's so many other quick ways to drive traffic to your website yet everyone stresses over SEO. I think that SEO is overrated and is also the reason so many beginners to internet marketing fail to earn. These beginners stress over ranking their website well and fail to see any results after months and months even though their content had potential. Eventually due to the lack of success and therefore motive, they quit.

    Am I the only one who feels this way?
    Let's see. Since I started in affiliate marketing 2 years and 1 month ago. I've focused solely on SEO, never spent a cent on Ads and have made over 2 million in profits. My expenses run @6%. Yep total of waste of time that has let me quit a 100k a year job, let me pay off all my debt, buy a new house twice the size and have over 280k in my checking account. Most people won't believe that but whatever. Stick with it. It does work. It all depends on how smart you are and how determined you are.

    This video describes what you are going through and what most people go through at the beginning. Most people never make it over the hump and make posts like you just did. I can tell you from the other side that it is totally worth it.

    Totally cheesy video but it's 100% true.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Tan
    Not doing SEO is a waste of time. SEO is important for a site to do well in search, except, of course, search is not your source of traffic.

    Even then, you still want to keep an eye of various SEO factors to ensure crawl-ability, content optimization etc.

    Internet marketing should not be SOLELY SEO, or CPC, or CPA, FB, social media, retar, PR, Media buys, list building, sequencing, launching or anything. IM is a combination of all these to achieve the best result. When put together, they create lots of synergies that build businesses beyond our wildest dreams.

    Daniel
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    If you have the right knowledge it will not take years. I wrote a case study of how I got #2 in Google for Arvixe coupon, arvixe promo, arvixe coupon code in just 4 weeks.

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