The END of Angela's Backlinks?

Lol great idea but hope they don't do it the same for you too :p
@ OP .. I don't think its the beginning of the end as Angela's Backlinks are working good for most of my friends and i am going to try it myself too so will get back to you with recent updates about it but i am not trying it right now as it must be dangerous as mentioned in above posts lol
Thanks
PHYza

Exactly. I'm sure they got spammed because of all the "black hatters" giving the packets away for free (even after I told them NOT to). But if getting someone banned from Google was as simple as placing them on a "black list" on your website, we'd have TREMENDOUS power against ALL of our competitors. It doesn't work that way.

They are "blacklisting" ANYONE who had ANY link at all on that forum, too. I only had my "Angela" link and a link to my article, which is NOT a 'sales page' and therefore could NOT be considered "spam". Forums, for the most part, just don't like links. ANY links.

LOL!!! That's really funny. I think this is b/s - just skip this site. The big backlink penalties come from when there are reciprocal link issues...not one-way links. That's why I stick with angela and don't do the reciprocal link thing...cause you can't trust other people's stuff...and if you are linked to them - you share their price...

js

Lemonade from lemons... I love it.

The truth is that these type of sites are a dime a dozen. If one makes big threats then move on to the next one. Make sure that you fill out the entire "About me" section and other sections ... do not just chuck 100 links on the site either, that is an obvious red flag that newbies violate again and again.

LOl..Nice tip.

Great thought! lol

Exactly, People look sooo crazy when they post things like that. Oooo we are going to take legal action... ha what a joke.

Yep. Actually there are sites all over the Internet that have been doing this kind of thing for years. I remember playing games online at a site a few years ago who had a page devoted to the top spamming websites online and said they shared the list with other places similar to what this site is saying.

You raise a good point about how you could do it to hurt your competition but these sites don't look at that or care about it. Their concern is stopping the spammer and they assume that is going to be the site getting the link.

LMAO... Im still laughing

With an increasing number of people using Angela's backling packages, it might become a bit obvious for webmasters that something's going on at their site.

I tried to find similar high PR websites myself by basically googling for "public profile" and checking the top results. I found one PR6 site and was able to leave my links in the public profile... without hundreds of Angela's backlinkers doing the same.

BUT... it took me ~15 minutes to do all this. Using Angela's backlinks is way faster, so I will continue to use them, too.

This style linking is a chess match ...

Use what the webmasters give you

They take something away

You find another way to capitlize

Its not death but evolution ...

The pagerank either internal or the foolbar (no typo ) has no bearing on SERP - I don't guess. I deal in facts. Anyone who believes in a high pr page link obtaining a higher serp is deceiving themselves.

You need to think 'wikipedia' that is crammed with outgoing links. If you can show me that Google does not make reference to searches based on anchor text that have wiki connections, then you will have proved your point. However, the simple fact is that wiki is an authoritive site.

Exactly. It doesn't make any sense. Otherwise, not only could you bring down your competitor's site, but sites that get popular very quickly with some sort of breaking news would be penalized for being popular, which is exactly what Google DOESN'T want to do.

Hate to say it but I kinda agree that penalties are given for over linking. I have had 1 page de-indexed due to over zealous linking and the home page of a differing sites PR nulled and de-indexed due to over zealous linking. It does sound nuts but i'm afraid it may be / IS true.

There is a lot of info on the net about this, supporting your argument and supporting the penalty argument, however from my own personal experience i would err on the side of caution and say that you need to start gradual and build up. Going in with 2000 links in a week for a site that has zero it likely to give you a headache with Google.

The good news though is that both pages of mine that did get their PR nulled and de-indexed (and when i say deindexed I mean one day they were #2 for their chosen term and the next day they were gone, not there, not on page 100, not on page 10,000, gone) both gained their PR back and rankings back after a few weeks.

Angelas backlink packets contain 30 each, this is not going to harm anyone. Even if you bought all her packages, all Pauls packages and another package, it is unlikely harm would be done. The penalties are there for those people who go out and get several hundred per day for sites which previously had virtually no links at all.

Actually, the label has been removed from the "supplemental index" but there is still a mechanism for segregation.

I could argue the point with you all night long Steven but it would be like trying to get a woodworm to eat a brick. It's blindingly obvious you have not even followed the thread/posts and seem to enjoy adding your 2 cents worth in on every third sentence you read, just to try and manipulate things to saddle up with your basic knowledge of SEO. Lets look at it this way. A n00b is always a n00b no matter how many fancy bricks he eats. Sore teeth yet? Munch Crunch.

Give it a break please, my ears and eyes are starting to hurt with the pain of reading your responses and speaking them out-load in disbelief masked in frustration is causing me terrible anguish, and as much as I am trying not too, yes you are beginning to annoy the shit outa me.

The facts are plain and simple; if they are beyond your comprehension then you not only need to see a doctor but probably need to go back to school.

I'm done with explaining the simple to you, it's obviously beyond your basic; food, sleep, eat. Here, have another brick. Chomp chomp.

Cheerzo :-)

P.S. Forums are great for discussion, also advice. Do try not to ruin good advice/and/or ignore facts as it ruins it for every one else new to the scene and looking for good pointers. Misinformation is not a good thing and you are only contributing to already well known bollocks.

P.P.S I expect you read that as: "Whoa there dude, INSPIRATION or what man." Munch Munch. Here, have another brick. :-)

Actually, there are some that do not. In fact, many thousands and perhaps millions. That's a fact, just like the fact that you didn't get a penalty from Google.

I'm thinking that's your best move.

Yes there is. When you attain expert level knowledge, you can apply to get in there with us.

Wow. You are a troll.

I was thinking that you honestly believed what you were saying, but with a response like that...

Ceasefire and peace to everybody.

I am the Original Poster and I think this thread has degenerated so badly.

Peace...Peace...Peace..And please can we return to the question of this thread? If you have nothing to add that is relevant to this thread please do not post.. Thank you very much everybody for all your contributions..

For some people, the glass will always be half empty. Such people will always exist... there's nothing that you or I can do about them.

I'm sure the vast majority appreciate the great value in your package, Angela. For them, the glass is 99% full .

Id rather not reveal the site/keyword as I intend to put some content on it in the near future.

Of course it is not site/domain specific, but if you want to find your pages in it, that is how it can be done.

Rodney

Yea Angela, that's the conclusion I came to also. Went I have these crazy ideas I try to ask myself "if tru could it be used against me?" and I assume Google will not let that happen.

Rodney

i just recived a threat letter from one of the social sites i place links on, im not sure if this site is from Agenlas list or pauls lists.

Account Deactivation - Reporting You to Google


You have just spammed our site, Urbis*com, by creating a profile for the purposes of creating backlinks to your site. This is a violation of our Terms of Use.

We are taking the following actions:

1. We are deactivating your Urbis account.
2. We are reporting you to Google and other search engines, which means you will be much lower in the search rankings. Google punishes those who try to game the system.
3. If your spamdexing activities continue, we will file a lawsuit for violation of our Terms of Use.

This is the part of our Terms that you have violated:
"Use the Site to engage in commercial activities and/or sales, including, but not limited to, contests, sweepstakes, barter, advertising, pyramid schemes, and any form of 'spam.'


do any ever get this kind threat from the lists?. I will be continuing to use angelas and pauls list. i just wont be posting to this urbris

I'm glad your still doing your packets Angela & I'm keen to get involved & will be in touch with you on monday 14th Dec.

Cheers

Mark

I came across this post looking for outsouring options for Angela's backlinks. I subscribe to her link packets.

I read through this whole thread. You people have taken an entire hour out of my life.

My question to some of you...Are you nuts?

Angela's links are NOT dead. Neither is backlinking. Do you realize the web as we know it would cease to exist without backlinks!!! So a site or two have admins or owners with a pet peeve. Big deal!

Do you realize how many of these sites rely on normal everyday people. Blogging mommies for example that don't even know what SEO stands for?

They go on there to socialize and network. They link their blogs one there to facilitate the networking. It doesn't get any simpler. Take away backlinks and noe of these "whiny" sites will be found themselves.

"9 out of 10 people preferred the taste of Product A to Product B"

If you're Product A,, are you going to tweak the taste to satisfy that one schmo who like your competitor? Or will you bank your resources into increasing the loyalty of the other 9 people who prefer your product?

Most of Angela's links are social type sites where new people join all the time. They create profiles. Some join and just forget about their profiles for months.

I keep a record of my logins for Angela's links. Occasionally I go into some randomly and participate in something. Add a friend. make a comment, whatever. It goes a long way towards building legitimacy.

You get 30 backlinks. If all you do is post once on a high PR site and forget about it, then you're not using these packets to their full potential. You got the login. You got the account. Once in a while give it a visit. You can even post an excerpt from one of your blog posts.

Think about how well you'd increase your chances of getting visitors by adding a couple of friends on one of these high PR sites or adding a post linking to your blog or EZA article.

You can also use these for efficient linkwheels. They don't ALL have to be linking back to one site. You can prop up the other links. You can backlink September's links with October's packets, for example.

You can revisit these sites once in a while and linkback to your Lens or Hub.

There are tons of things you can do with these sites. Fact is many of them are still "below the spam radar".

And if you actually reuse your accounts on these sites once in a while then you already have the edge over 95% of the others who are simply one-link wonders.

As far as that whole back and forth exchange between franchiseshop, Stephen and a few others...Well I can't say I'm an SEO expert like Stephen. And I am certainly far from a millionaire like franchiseshop. If I were a millionaire I probably wouldn't be spending my evening on this forum battling to the death anyway.

But to each their own.

I think it's just a matter of basic common sense. People sometimes don;t realize how deep and complex search engine algorithms can be.

It goes way beyond "too many backlinks in one day". There are so many different factors that are considered.

A website posts a top secret government document. It gets leaked. Hits the news (web & TV)

Next day it has half a million backlinks. It's not getting penalized.

But if you're using dead obvious signs of automation then flags will go up.

Google knows when you whip out some serious software and start linkspamming the universe. You might think rotating 3 or 4 titles/descriptions, etc. is clever. But not when you do it several thousand times in one night for the same URL on various Scuttle and Pligg sites. Yes flags may get raised in that instance.

Let's say you're using Angela's and Paul's packets. That's 80 sites. You have 30 days until the new packets come out. Posting to all 80 sites in one day may not be the smartest thing to do either. Spread them out. And varying your profile names and descriptions may help also.

franchiseshop, I also don't think you were "penalized". It's part of Google's ever-changing algorithm process.They don't give you a "time-out". You're not sent to stand in the corner for 2 hours with a dunce hat until you learn your lesson. If your site is seriously considered for spam and removal, and if it gets removed. It AIN'T coming back. Especially not on its own!

Perhaps your site was flagged initially due to too many low quality backlinks with telltale signs of automation. There may have been a re-indexing process where your sites were run through other algorithms and filters, compared with a multitude of criteria that none of us will ever be aware of. Who knows. These are possibilities.

But I really doubt this was a penalty (as in punishment for being a bad boy).

If Google was intent on punishing you, you really would not see your sites back in there. Google is merciless. And if you leave a bad taste in their mouth, they will spit you out for good.

That was not the case with your sites.

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Not enough facts. There is no way we could tell your competition for this info.

I would like to know how many (and generally what type/breakdown) backlinks are showing up for your main site, how many (and what type, etc.) are the backlinks for the other top 10 sites, and how many backlinks are showing up for article.

Did you do anything with Angela's links after you put them up? Too many people just throw up profile backlinks and then do absolutely nothing to them, and then wonder "what the hell".

Personally, 100% of the time I ping them (pingoat bookmarklet) and create an RSS feed of them that I send to the top RSS feed aggregators. Sometimes I will also social bookmark them.

I'm sorry but your forum comment screams spam. It looks like an obvious attempt to get your links into a forum by leaving a vanilla response that add nothing to the conversation or topic.

I've seen plenty of other comments you've made on forums that are very similar. Either you are the most eclectic person on the planet or you are (or were) spamming forums.

I know everyone selling links has a thousand ways to spin what they are doing as not being spam and could even be helpful for those sites they are spamming.

It's all BS... it's spam.

You're leaving links for your own personal gain without a care in the world for the sites where you are leaving links.

At least Terry Kyle in his WSO has the integrity or balls to come out and admit that it is what is is.... spamming other sites for backlinks.

Yes that is nonsense. so these were signature backlinks left?

I don't know that your charge of underhand fits though (not saying yoru otehr charges are off base though). I dont know your site and am alot more selective with backlinks but it may not be "underhanded" at all. It seems the links were right there in the open and your forum was set up to allow signature links for anyone when you could have locked that down to a certain amount of posts etc. Still the me too and the link is downright annoying and spam. if you can take the time to write a response why not contribute soemthing meaningful.

Obviously don't know what your TOS said but unfortunately people routinely don't read long legalese. I wouldn't be surprised if she in fact never read it.