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I get ad after ad about getting you site in the top ten or getting your site to page one for your keyword. In reality everyone can't be in the top ten or on page one.
Is this really worth the effort? And if you do manage to get listed on Page one then you get slapped and lose you rank. Is all this really necessary and worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
    I wouldn't buy into any "guaranteed" SEO methods or program. It's mainly about delivering the results a searcher is looking for, not promising and failing to deliver.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    In SEO, nothing is guaranteed, so don't believe those promises. However, if you hire someone who knows what they are doing, they could get your site into the top 10 results for your target keywords.
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    • Profile picture of the author rdowell
      Originally Posted by SEO Power View Post

      In SEO, nothing is guaranteed, so don't believe those promises. However, if you hire someone who knows what they are doing, they could get your site into the top 10 results for your target keywords.
      It seems even you say could. Again is SEO worth the effort?
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by rdowell View Post

        It seems even you say could. Again is SEO worth the effort?
        Without knowing what you are selling, what you make per sale, and understanding your competition, nobody here is going to be able to answer that question for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by rdowell View Post

    I get ad after ad about getting you site in the top ten or getting your site to page one for your keyword. In reality everyone can't be in the top ten or on page one.
    Is this really worth the effort? And if you do manage to get listed on Page one then you get slapped and lose you rank. Is all this really necessary and worth it.
    I guess you mean ads in your email inbox, If that's the case it's spam If you didn't request info.

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    Originally Posted by rdowell View Post

    It seems even you say could. Again is SEO worth the effort?
    Sure it's worth the effort If you end up with a good ROI.

    If you blindly walk into SEO without knowing what your doing/buying you'll probably end up getting hosed. Learn SEO, then later on If you want to outsource the work your less likely to get hosed by a seller.
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  • Profile picture of the author Harold Knight
    The only guarantee we have in life is death.


    At one time I ranked #5 for “website design” and that drove more traffic to my site then a #1 ranking for “custom website designs”.


    Sometimes all you need to do is get close.


    Of course Google penalized the site and we lost all our rankings but then that was 3 years later, and just guessing I would guess at least a million dollar later.


    Was it worth it?



    My site could penalized forever and in a desperate act of panic I deleted a couple hundred pages of good, unique content and sadly I've spent all the money the site made. But it was good while it lasted.


    I bought a new domain name and while there are no penalties from Google the old penalized site still gets more traffic from the links pointing at it then the new site gets. So...will I try and break the rules and get another site banned or will I follow the rules and have a site that gets no... to... very little traffic from Google?


    Hmm...since I spent all the money and need to make more, I am thinking I'll try and rank another site. It doesn't have to rank #1 and it does not need to be there forever but if I do nothing then I've lost my $10.00 investment.
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  • Profile picture of the author InitialEffort
    @rdowell
    My question for you is how much keyword research have you done prior to your SEO efforts? Finding the right keywords and pursing the ones with good traffic and moderate to weak competition is paramount.

    There are SEO companies out there that offer guaranteed SERP improvements with free trials, just search around until you find one that gives you the best results.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ghoster
    No, it isn't possible for every keyword. If Google had their way, everyone would give up SEO. So that might give you some idea of how effective it might be 10 years from now.

    Here's what you can do for free:

    Write high-quality content for human readers. Also, come up with long tail keywords that human readers might put into Google to find your content/site, and incorporate those where it is natural to do so.

    Use social media to spread your content around. In my experience, people will link to high-quality, authoritative content. Those are the backlinks you want.

    More tips:

    1. Link out to authority sites

    2. Privacy Policy, TOS and affiliate disclaimer (if you're an affiliate). You need them.

    3. Get your bounce rate down. A high bounce rate can mean two things: the site should not have ranked for the keyword it did, or it isn't useful for the visitor.

    4. Send brand signals.

    If your domain is www.bestpettoys.com, try www.petplay.com instead. (Those might be real sites. I have no idea) Google wants you to carve out your own Internet real estate. They trust brands.

    Create a thorough About Us page. Create an identity for your brand.

    In the example above, you would have active social media accounts for "petplay" on all of the major sites. Bring people to your site from those branded accounts. (Hint: Pinterest for Business)

    5. Build Domain trust.

    Register your domain for 2+ years. Google is a domain registrar. They don't sell domains, but they can see your WhoIs info. They want to know that you're committed. Keep your WhoIs info public. No real company has private WhoIs info. Put your WhoIs info in your Contact Us page if possible.

    6. If you must actively seek backlinks, make sure you check their link profile first. PageRank doesn't tell you everything you need to know.
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    • Profile picture of the author faithkonfyans17
      I'd say if it really worked they would have thousands of sites ranked and making a boatload of cash. I wouldn't count of their service.
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