1WayLinks.net or Linkvana?

I don't like idea how 1waylinks works.
It just put your article with links on many blogs that are link farms.
As I understand it, you have to make new blog just for that network and that means that all blogs are without reputation, just with random articles...
Like link farm.

linkvana is a professional service for seo's and folks that actually make a living online, and if one knows how to do key research for your anchors, linkvana is worth 10 times the fee. first I have heard of 1waylinks, but if it is anything like 3waylinks then it is geared more towards the "internet marketing" crowd. From what I have read Jon Leger seems like a cut above your average top level internet marketer integrety-wise, at the same time, he is an internet marketer, and linkvana is run by an SEO's. I am sure both services have their place, and 1waylinks seems like a low enough price to try it, then you can compare to your linkvana results. just keep your tests separate.

P.s. quick advice, I would really keep an eye on a specifc project test or 2 in linkvana to see how certain words react, it will help you understand what keywords work and also the worth of good links. try a couple real general anchors of 2 terms (words), a couple semi-general 3 term anchors, niched 4 term keys that you find in common keyword tools, and a few niched longtail (with historic traffic) 4-5 terms. Then check it every couple weeks in your stats. This applies for any method you are using to get links, linkvana, 1 way links, anything, just keep tests separate and if poss in the same general market. Sorry to ramble.

1WayLinks does, in fact, have its users add their own blogs into the network. The reason this is done is 4-fold:

1) Geographically diverse, unique class C IP addresses.

Since individuals from all over the world are adding the blogs in from a large number of diverse web hosts, we get a much greater mix of geographically diverse class-C IP addresses than other services.

2) No footprints.

Individuals setup their own blogs in their own way. They have their own plugins, their own themes, etc. So each blog passes human inspection in a way that would be incredibly difficult to duplicate as a one-man (or even one-team) effort.

3) Large network of blogs.

Since each member submit their own blog, the network of blogs is continually growing. 1,000 users means at least 1,000 blogs in the network, etc. That means your links go to a greater variety of random locations than is possible than when every blog is owned by one person (or company).

4) Keeps cost down.

1WayLinks is purposefully providing a much lower cost solution than competitors such as LinkVana -- which is a whopping $147 a month to be a part of. Having users contribute their blogs makes this posible.

It's working like a champ.

The success forum is loaded with success stories already -- and we've barely passed the one-month mark. The results speak for themselves: 1WayLinks is incredibly effective, while remaining incredibly cost-effective. Even when we're out of beta we'll be one third the price of the competition like LinkVana.

Is it still not similar to gaming the system?

What I would like to know is that once we decide to cancel membership from either 1waylinks.net or articlemarketingautomation.com, will our previous links stay intact of whatever articles and posts we have submitted all the months we were paying members?

According to my opinion, the articles and links should stay. Anyone has any idea on this. I hope Jon answers my question as it is his service.

Good discussion on these 2 popular services. I don't personally use either but I am interested in possibly using one or both in the future.

Nice to see Jonathan posting on here as well.

Tim

I use linkvana. Doesn't help much.
Combined with others technique, it works just about fine for me.
Especially for low competition keywords.

Daniel, you said...

"With LV there are less links needed because they're coming from sites with decent PageRank and linkjuice and linking to your site from "relevant categories".

Hmmm, I'm not too sure about that "sites with decent pagerank" and "relevant categories" thing you said about Linkvana. I mean, I know that is what the Linkvana people say, but I can see all my Linkvana back links in my WP dashboard and they are ALL from junk spammy blogs of no visitor value with PR0 pages that have NOTHING at all to do with the subject of my sites. Time will tell (at $147 per month!) how well Linkvana works for my sites, and IF it does work, well that just gives heaps of credence to the power of the one way back link. Geez, I figure if Linkvana's junk links can boost my site, then just think how much juice you would get from a one way back link from a page that has high PR?

"Some links won't get credited by the SEs if too many are obtained at once."

Yes, and too many links at once may get your site sandboxed by Google like what happened to me about three years ago. In my case, it was almost two years before Google stopped spanking my site.

I just joined NextGen Links yesterday. Its early because they are new, but what do you think about them? I'm hopeful since the monthly cost is a fraction of what Linkvana is costing me.

Steve

If you have the money, go for Linkvana.

However, 1Waylinks is still highly effective for its cost.

Great posts and great thread. Just a quick thought on admav's comment above about the blogs being no different than article submissions. I don't agree ( and I'm not a user of either service ) I would imagine that the vast range of blog ip's from all over the world would make the service useful. Throw in Googles current obsession with Wordpress and I think such services may be worthwhile.

And yes it's nice to see luminaries such as Jonathon Leger in here. It suggests we are hanging in the right spot for good info.

Nicely put. Now that their position on duplicate content has been more defined this becomes more true.

This is one of the most helpful threads I have had the honor of reading here at the warrior forum. It sounds like a few things have been established based on everyone's posts :

1.) Both 1WayLinks and LinkVana are respected but recognized as being different in regard to the quality of blogs and the price tag that each one is accompanied by.

2.) These services should not be used without a decent understanding of long tail keywords and the ability to find niche keyword terms that have high search / high adwords bids and low competition

3.) Everyone that has used either of these services recognizes their value.

At this point I am sold... I have been working like a dog trying to build up backlinks the "old fashioned way" via article directories, forum signatures, blog posts, author pages etc...

My new strategy involves signing up for a 1waylinks account and then purchasing the more expensive/premium Linkvana account after my revenue has increased enough to justify both services at the same time.

At some point down the road, the 1waylinks account will only be used for new blogs and the LinkVana account will be used to fight off the internet marketing vultures trying to take my 1st place spots for my most conveted niches.

I really appreciate everyone's contribution and I only have 1 question left :

Can someone please refer me to a quality article writing service where I can obtain 100 word mini posts with targeted seo terms for under 2 bucks/each? (thats what Linkvana charges...)

I have never use any of these link building stuffs because i was scared Big G will disable my account. But as far as I can read on this thread I am thinking of getting into one of these services where everybody has to write and original article and I do not see anything wrong or link farming in this case.

Thanks guys for a very informative thread.

Oling

I suppose one answer would be to sign up for the jetspinner (jetsubmitter) free trial, build an article and spin it, then download the spun versions to your pc. You could then have, say, 500 unique articles to copy and paste, (you get a zip file containing a txt file for each spun version). A lot of faffing about but better than doing them all manually. I say free trial of jetsubmitter because I'm still unsure of it's worth paying for yet.

Neither, both systems are flawed, results are not sustained indefinitely.

BEST Solution - Mix different types of links!

1. Submit directory
2. Web 2.0 traffic and links
3. Bookmarks
4. Article directories
5. Blog Networks
6. Blog comment /forum
7. RSS directories

Mixes of different types of links and grow naturally will give you more sustainable result... just keep doing it even you don't see result in 2 months!

I agree with the post above. Use many strategies. I can say that adding 1waylinks did help my sites ranking and sales. However, its one of several strategies I use.

Rodney

Long term, isn't it best to do it the hard way? By that I mean, quality content, quality backlinks?

hey why not UAW?? the best part I like about them is that they spin the article before posting on each blog does LV has that option too? :-/

I definitely agree with kkchoon in regards to mixing links as much as possible, i try to use social bookmarking in conjunction with blogroll exchanges in addition to various other methods which i will choose not to mention (i.e. trade secrets lol..). if someone wants to know more about 1wyl they can feel free to contact me with questions or read the following review I have written...

1WayLinks Review | Your Blog Is Money

I offer a starter pack and training material if people choose to sign up with my affiliate link

I personally prefer linkvana for its' high PR blogs.

Yes, some would argue linkvana blogs is not high PR, that is because some of the blogs are actually new, and they keep adding more!

But rest assure those blogs will grow to PR 4 or 5 in a year, your link value will go up as well! After you have joined for few months, they actually let you access to more high PR blogs, this might be their policy to protect both their client and themselves...

One thing I don't like about any kind of blog network, they tend to work slowly, and I mean too slow for me. A blog getting content too fast might get penalized, but not for us as the user. I don't think getting tons of links will get my site sandbox or anyway.

However, if my links is inconsistent, my site might be dancing around up and down. That's why I advice people to spread link building evenly, but don't worry about getting too much links.

If you have 1000 link resources, just spread it across 5 days or 10 days, your site should be staying without any problem!

I never knew these two sites. It is a good thing to have such link resources with just a single click action. I was relying on ezinearticles and articlesnatch which Google keeps on de-indexing or down ranking in the search results.

I will give them a try.

I heard about Linkvana - probably good but also pricy (I also read some not so cool reviews on other forums) - SEO is a lot about automisation and outsourcing -> we outsource Angelas Link stuff to some of our indian guys (however we noticed that this method is not working that good anymore, cause there to many Id*ots that just spam these sites, so that the owners get pissed and turn the links no follow) - Link Juicer which does pretty much the same like Linkvana, BMD for Bookmarking (not to much so it is not to spammy)...

I also like the list from kkchoon - the key is to make it relevant / look natural and high power links

I believe linkvana is the best in terms of link power!

The linkjuicer is bookmarking backlinks, similar to trafficbug, but I prefer trafficbug! You will receive better price when you join 30 days challenge. I am still testing linkjuicer, still not see significant result yet, it is just too soon to tell.

Trafficbug gives you better value, and you can post unlimited links??

Thelink juicer does much more than Trafficbug. It bookmarks the bookmarks and posts on blogs and then creates link wheels to them.

I have success with one way links too...cool tool

For backlinking I have used the following:

(1) Linkvana - use it for about 6 months but unsubscribing recently (too costly)
(2) NextgenLinks - have use it for about 9 months as it is quite competitively priced
(3) Social Bookmarking 101 - About 3 months
(4) Linkjuicer - About a month
(5) Angelina and Paul - quite a number of months
(6) Free Traffic System - almost a year
(7) Other freelance services on and off

Seriously I do not know which one really works but just want to make sure my backlinks come from various sources to make it natural so as to avoid any Google slaps.

I personally would not recommend LinkVana. I haven't used 1WayLinks.net.

I don't want to say anything negative about the service. However, there is a big time committment in terms of writing the blog posts. This wasn't an issue for us, as we outsource.

However, we setup google alerts to monitor our SEO and we happen to see several of the sites\blogs in the linkvana network that our links ended up on.

They were extremely simple, very ugly wodpress sites. They had zero page rank, even though based on the archives the sites were up for at least a year or more, which means the sites had absolutely no link building done.

Anyway, because of the lack of page rank (page rank IS important when it comes to the sites\pages your links are on), we stopped using the service.

They are obviously making some money and have quite a few people using their service, so I don't understand why they don't hire a team of outsourcers to promote the sites, and make them look like real blogs.

I used linkvana on a couple of my websites and all of em mysteriously dissapeared out of google....bummer

I use both 1waylinks and Linkvana successfully. Both are good for their own reasons.

Hey Daniel, what about your own free 3-way links service? How does IT compare to Leger's and Linkvana? I use your service on a couple of my sites. It shows me that my link quantities are growing everyday, but it does not appear that google sees them at all. I would love to hear your response.

Really?

According to LV's own sales page, a blog in their network must only meet 1 of 3 three criteria:

(1) PR of 2-5
(2) aged (I think 6+ years); OR
(3) 1000+ backlinks.

According to this, a blog could be in their network with PR of 0 and zero backlinks, but is 7 years old. For that kind of juice, you might as well just buy your own expiring domains from GoDaddy.

Tom

Hi. such a nice and help full post.thx for share.

is it still any good? 1waylinks?

I have been considering 1waylinks, but am not sure how it works. Right now, I have four blogs in different niches. Can I add all four to the network or even more as they are created?

LJ