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DA increased due to negative SEO?

by Claudio Johnson
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I got NEGATIVE SEOed like 11k backlinks, now it went down to 2.5k links as per Ahref. GWT has 2200 links

It was all porn, forum spam links. I Disavowed them over a month ago, then GWT links updated to 2200 form 1200.

Can this DA long jump from 25 to 37 is due to those spammy links?
#due #increased #negative #seo
  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    DA really does not take into account the quality of the links. I've spammed the crap out of domains to DA's over 50 and 60 in about 6 weeks.

    It's one of the reasons it is a pretty useless metric to rely on for much of anything.
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    • Profile picture of the author TLondon
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      DA really does not take into account the quality of the links. I've spammed the crap out of domains to DA's over 50 and 60 in about 6 weeks.

      It's one of the reasons it is a pretty useless metric to rely on for much of anything.
      Question. So if that's true, then you can have spam domains with high DA pass that DA onto the middle-man domain, and then from it, pass that DA onto your site while avoiding any kind of negative impact?

      spam -> middle man -> legit site

      Will DA of the legit site go up without any issues?
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by TLondon View Post

        Question. So if that's true, then you can have spam domains with high DA pass that DA onto the middle-man domain, and then from it, pass that DA onto your site while avoiding any kind of negative impact?
        Its the same as PR. People used to use tiered backlinking all the time to create PR2s and PR3s (some still do but it has not been updated). Though I rarely disagree with Mike thats why I totally disagree with him saying its one of the reasons its a useless metric. There is no metric ever made including Pagerank that cannot and has not been gamed. In the case of DA its pretty easy to figure out if your your tool also shows the backlink count. If its very high then you know pretty quick. Best way to use metrics these days though is to combine all of them. DA works pretty good when compared with Mozrank, Majestic's trustflow and even Ahrefs ranking ystem
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  • Profile picture of the author Claudio Johnson
    Those spammy links were of irrelevant niche. Were they counted in this DA? what say?
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Of course they were. Why wouldn't they be?
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    DA will go up with any links coming in. I think what you are forgetting though is DA translates to nothing as far as rankings, so it really does not matter.
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    • Profile picture of the author TLondon
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      DA will go up with any links coming in. I think what you are forgetting though is DA translates to nothing as far as rankings, so it really does not matter.
      Hmm, I'm pretty sure Moz has an article on DA saying that it's one of the #1 impacts on how the domain will rank in SERPs.

      Not saying that you're wrong and they're right, but interested to hear your thoughts on this.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by TLondon View Post

        Hmm, I'm pretty sure Moz has an article on DA saying that it's one of the #1 impacts on how the domain will rank in SERPs.

        Not saying that you're wrong and they're right, but interested to hear your thoughts on this.
        DA is a metric that MOZ created, not Google.

        Google uses it for exactly nothing.
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        • Profile picture of the author TLondon
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          DA is a metric that MOZ created, not Google.

          Google uses it for exactly nothing.
          I see. Is there any metric to go by in terms of Google then? PR is obviously not the one.
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          • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
            Originally Posted by TLondon View Post

            Is there any metric to go by in terms of Google then?
            no ..........
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by TLondon View Post

            I see. Is there any metric to go by in terms of Google then? PR is obviously not the one.
            No there isn't because Google has all but abandoned showing accurate pagerank (besides which PR used to go up on sites blasted with alot of links too even when they did update). Before that I would have agreed with Mike that Google not backing Moz metrics was a solid point against it. You would of course have preferred Google to do the up to date accurate metrics but the world has changed.

            All third party metrics have value because they seek to mimic what Google (and Bing) uses in their system and to varying degrees have shown accuracy compared to actual serp results. Theres a definite bias against Moz on this board by some but its not shared in the greater SEO world

            Bottom line in these days with Google not even bothering to update the tool bar all the metrics have value - warts and all.
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  • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
    Negative SEO will not lower the DA as Moz do not filter crap links in the DA formula. If the DA dropped, then there would be another link related reason (eg loss of other high DA links)
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