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How to hide footprints from Google after winning a domain auction from GoDaddy?

by alphabanter
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Hi all. I won a domain from GoDaddy auctions. I plan to use this domain in my Private Blog Network (PBN). Now how can I hide the footprint from Google?

I have a few questions:

1) I will fill in fake WHOIS information immediately when I get the domain transferred to my GoDaddy account. But won't GoDaddy temporarily fill in the WHOIS information with my current GoDaddy account info? If so, can't Google look at the past WHOIS history and they would see other domains I have won from GoDaddy all have had my GoDaddy account info in the WHOIS history? This seems like an easy footprint for Google to detect.

2) I may purchase WHOIS privacy when the domain transfers into my account. But as per 1), isn't a footprint still left? If GoDaddy changes the WHOIS information to my account info when it transfers the domain to my account, even purchasing WHOIS privacy can't erase the WHOIS history.

3) Is it a footprint to leave this PBN domain in my GoDaddy account along with my money site domain? From my understanding, I can't transfer a domain out until 30 days has passed. That means I have to keep this PBN domain in my GoDaddy account where I also keep my money site domain. Would Google be able to detect any footprints from this?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author deezn
    Be careful with fake Whois info. I've never heard it happening, but you can technically lose the domain. Private Whois at time of purchase is better from what I've read.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    I know a lot of people advocate providing fake WHOIS info. However, it is against ICANN regulations. If there was ever a reason where you had to confirm the information, you are likely to end up losing the domain.

    For that reason, privacy is a better solution.
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  • Profile picture of the author alphabanter
    Thanks deezn and MikeFriedman. Privacy is something I will consider. However, even with privacy, can't Google still access the WHOIS history? I thought privacy just shields you from a current WHOIS lookup, but it doesn't erase any WHOIS history about a domain.

    Before I can even add privacy to this domain, the moment it gets transferred into my GoDaddy account, I think GoDaddy will automatically add my account info to the WHOIS records and then it immediately becomes a part of the WHOIS history (picking privacy after this can't undo the WHOIS history, if my understanding is correct).
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    You could have bought privacy when you paid for the domain after winning the auction.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Faking whois, hiding from google, .....sheesh...already your PBN is
      off to a rocking start!

      Tell me, who at google even wants to keep track?

      If, and really that's a BIG IF, google (the man behind the curtain) actually
      wants to keep track of you and your sites, they have much, much more
      sophisticated ways of doing so. Whois would not even be in the mix.
      Too many intangibles, from privacy to some hosts selling packages, etc.
      Whois would be a very low level way to even try and do it. And quite
      useless.

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      • Profile picture of the author alphabanter
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        Faking whois, hiding from google, .....sheesh...already your PBN is
        off to a rocking start!

        Tell me, who at google even wants to keep track?

        If, and really that's a BIG IF, google (the man behind the curtain) actually
        wants to keep track of you and your sites, they have much, much more
        sophisticated ways of doing so. Whois would not even be in the mix.
        Too many intangibles, from privacy to some hosts selling packages, etc.
        Whois would be a very low level way to even try and do it. And quite
        useless.

        Paul
        It's possible that Google has automated systems (ie. a programmed algorithm) to do all this work. They don't need an actual person to sort through the data at all.

        WHOIS history could be one footprint Google uses to flag your PBN. There could be other flags that Google looks at. If Google has an automated method to pinpoint PBNs, if your PBN receives enough flags (ie. you were sloppy with other footprints), then Google could de-index your domain along with your entire PBN.

        Keep in mind that if they have such an algorithm to catch a PBN, they may use it in a future update. It's also very easy for Google to make such an algorithm - an intern at Google could probably whip this up in a few days. It's not rocket science by any stretch.
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    • Profile picture of the author alphabanter
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      You could have bought privacy when you paid for the domain after winning the auction.
      I was looking for this option when I paid for the domain. I didn't see this option though

      Have you purchased a domain after an auction win before and was there a privacy option on the payment screen?
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by alphabanter View Post

        I was looking for this option when I paid for the domain. I didn't see this option though

        Have you purchased a domain after an auction win before and was there a privacy option on the payment screen?
        I've only purchased a few hundred of them...

        Yeah, the privacy option is there when you pay for the domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author LuckyIMer
    You should not use fake whois as it can get you in troubles, use the privacy option, some domain registrars do provide free privacy.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by LuckyIMer View Post

      You should not use fake whois as it can get you in troubles, use the privacy option, some domain registrars do provide free privacy.
      Lol, who's going to get you, the internet police?
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  • Profile picture of the author NShankar
    The easy way out would be to bid for domains from your VA / family members / friends godaddy account and then host it as per your wish. However the persons you are bidding and holding the domain should be active and be reminded for renewal otherwise you might lose your PBN at an critical stage or you can choose to renew the domain for few more years immediately after purchase. Google can easily detect the owners even if they are whois hidden, so for me this method only seems to be safe than any other methods. This method is also has its own risks, but in theory very less or no footprint to detect all your PBN sites (unless you make it simple for google by interlinking your PBN sites).
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    • Profile picture of the author alphabanter
      Originally Posted by NShankar View Post

      Google can easily detect the owners even if they are whois hidden
      Hi, can you kindly explain this? If Google can easily detect the owners, that's probably the biggest footprint giveaway of all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pdomain
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    And Google doesn't track if a domain is won in Godaddy Auctions or other auction platforms, it may track the changes of registrants, thats it... and I think it is not a major part in SEO.

    Google does its tasks on a broader way, not a tiny stuff... It also understands that domain name is an internet property, can be bought and sold. And the benefit should be given to the new owner. So why to fear from such things?
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOWizard417
    You're over thinking it. You should be fine getting private who is as soon as you can. I know of networks that don't use any private who is, and they still are fine using a friend or family members info for who is.

    I use private who is myself, just seems easier and only costs a few extra bucks a year. Namecheap offers it for free your first year too.
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