Facebook page for Business - Waste of time now?

11 replies
Hi all,

So i had my marketing plan and was ready to hit go. To set up Facebook page for my business (but not using my business name just a name that suited the niche) and then add lots of great content. After getting enough interesting content posted i planned to switch on Facebook Ads promote the page, to gain as many page likes as possible. Then keep adding content and every now and again drop in threads about my product, how to buy, coupons, give aways etc.

BUT it's suddenly dawned on me with Facebook now stopping the majority of your page likes seeing your posts, whats the point of going that route! As even if i managed to get 5000 likes for my page, if only 2% see every post i make, then have i just wasted my money?

As surely all i will have to do is then pay for boosting posts, to those same followers and others to get more likes which seems like I'm paying double! And if all i pay to boost my products i have for sale, isn't it going to just reduce the nice organic, useful content vibe of the page and feel like spam?

So are Facebook pages now a waste of time and Ad money?

or am i missing a trick? maybe asking all people who have liked to tick 'get notifications'?(does this work?) or ask them to sign up to an email subscription as they hit like? or avoid Facebook now and just try other ways to build an email list instead? or other social media like Instagram or pintrest maybe instead now?

any advise would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks
#business #facebook #page #time #waste
  • Profile picture of the author wealthy20
    Originally Posted by mattw1000 View Post

    Hi all,

    So i had my marketing plan and was ready to hit go. To set up Facebook page for my business (but not using my business name just a name that suited the niche) and then add lots of great content. After getting enough interesting content posted i planned to switch on Facebook Ads promote the page, to gain as many page likes as possible. Then keep adding content and every now and again drop in threads about my product, how to buy, coupons, give aways etc.

    BUT it's suddenly dawned on me with Facebook now stopping the majority of your page likes seeing your posts, whats the point of going that route! As even if i managed to get 5000 likes for my page, if only 2% see every post i make, then have i just wasted my money?

    As surely all i will have to do is then pay for boosting posts, to those same followers and others to get more likes which seems like I'm paying double! And if all i pay to boost my products i have for sale, isn't it going to just reduce the nice organic, useful content vibe of the page and feel like spam?

    So are Facebook pages now a waste of time and Ad money?

    or am i missing a trick? maybe asking all people who have liked to tick 'get notifications'?(does this work?) or ask them to sign up to an email subscription as they hit like? or avoid Facebook now and just try other ways to build an email list instead? or other social media like Instagram or pintrest maybe instead now?

    any advise would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks
    The power of social media is in enforcing your brand.

    Let me give you an example:

    There's no better way to sell a product than a video to pitch the product + under it just put in the Facebook social plugin where it shows the likes, shares and comments on your product by other people.

    Look at this page: Fat Loss Factor By Dr. Charles Livingston and tell me after seeing 3000 likes & comments if you immediately think: "3,000 people can't be wrong." That indicator alone shoots the conversion rate way up.

    That's the power of social.

    Hope it helps! Gluck with your venture!
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10140950].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author ahounddog
    I don't think you'd be looking at reach of 2 percent. When I've seen estimates like that, they were talking about pages with 1 million-plus fans.

    Here's some good reading: No, Facebook Organic Page Reach Is Not Dead

    The bottom line is that reach is not the main metric to look at. You should be concerned about traffic. If you have a high clickthrough rate, you can get good traffic even when reach is not so good.

    And vice versa: You can have high reach and low clickthrough, and your traffic will be low. In that case, what good did the reach do you?

    Edit: This link is also an interesting take on the topic of reach: Busting Facebook's Most Widespread Myth
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10140951].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    The poster above me is spot on. My pages routinely see reach of over 40% and sometimes much higher.

    My traffic is as strong as ever.
    Signature
    Want a REAL Online Business That's Fun to Run?
    CLICK HERE FOR INFO
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10141222].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author RoniShwartz
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      The poster above me is spot on. My pages routinely see reach of over 40% and sometimes much higher.

      My traffic is as strong as ever.
      A reach of over 40% ??? That's amazing !!! How do you achieve such an astonishing exposure ?
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10141958].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by RoniShwartz View Post

        A reach of over 40% ??? That's amazing !!! How do you achieve such an astonishing exposure ?
        Yes. I simply provide content that my fans are looking for. As a result, my engagement is through the roof. Facebook rewards the engagement with outstanding reach.

        It's not unusual for my website to receive 500-1000 visits per day (sometimes higher) even though my fanbase is fewer than 2000 fans.

        The site/brand is a hyperlocal so generating traffic is actually a piece of cake.
        Signature
        Want a REAL Online Business That's Fun to Run?
        CLICK HERE FOR INFO
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10141963].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author salehoo
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          Yes. I simply provide content that my fans are looking for. As a result, my engagement is through the roof. Facebook rewards the engagement with outstanding reach.
          If anyone's looking to do this but wants to save time I found a neat free tool that'll allow you to find and post relevant content quickly and easily.


          You'll still need some brain power to pick out the best posts for your audience, but it'll give you a lot of options. Worth a try anyway.

          Facebook is tricky because it's difficult to stand out but if you can manage it it's so worthwhile. Great to hear of your successes wolfmmiii
          Signature
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10178421].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author mattw1000
    Fantastic, thanks guys! that's given me more hope my original plan could still be worth following.

    I was thinking the platforms i'd use would be Facebook page, Instagram and Pintrest and then try and convert those followers to Email subscribers and also send them to my Amazon sales pages.

    With that in mind, i'd love to hear any tips / advise if you'd be so willing to part with, on great ways you've seen work to turn Facebook followers into email subscribers please? have you made that work?

    I just want to avoid relying on those social media outlets for my list, if in future they change the rules and my list becomes obsolete and unusable.

    Also, if i was to carry on and really push to build a Facebook page and i'm building it from nothing, from the ground up, would you suggest starting with placing targeted Ad's to promote page likes first, and then move to boosting posts to those likes or just go straight for the boost / promote posts and hope that turns into page likes?

    I'm guessing turning page likes to email list is easier than converting post likes to email list subscribers?

    Thanks
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10141743].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author ehwtfxz
      Originally Posted by mattw1000 View Post

      Also, if i was to carry on and really push to build a Facebook page and i'm building it from nothing, from the ground up, would you suggest starting with placing targeted Ad's to promote page likes first, and then move to boosting posts to those likes or just go straight for the boost / promote posts and hope that turns into page likes?

      I'm guessing turning page likes to email list is easier than converting post likes to email list subscribers?

      Thanks
      I'm really curious about this too. How many posts should I have for a brand new page before promoting the page so that people actually like it?
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10175842].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author scotty63allen
    Originally Posted by mattw1000 View Post

    Hi all,

    So i had my marketing plan and was ready to hit go. To set up Facebook page for my business (but not using my business name just a name that suited the niche) and then add lots of great content. After getting enough interesting content posted i planned to switch on Facebook Ads promote the page, to gain as many page likes as possible. Then keep adding content and every now and again drop in threads about my product, how to buy, coupons, give aways etc.

    BUT it's suddenly dawned on me with Facebook now stopping the majority of your page likes seeing your posts, whats the point of going that route! As even if i managed to get 5000 likes for my page, if only 2% see every post i make, then have i just wasted my money?

    As surely all i will have to do is then pay for boosting posts, to those same followers and others to get more likes which seems like I'm paying double! And if all i pay to boost my products i have for sale, isn't it going to just reduce the nice organic, useful content vibe of the page and feel like spam?

    So are Facebook pages now a waste of time and Ad money?

    or am i missing a trick? maybe asking all people who have liked to tick 'get notifications'?(does this work?) or ask them to sign up to an email subscription as they hit like? or avoid Facebook now and just try other ways to build an email list instead? or other social media like Instagram or pintrest maybe instead now?

    any advise would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks
    With all the changes that Facebook throws at us all, it can be hard to know if what we are doing is still effective or not, well at least that was my experience with it. What I found is that as we build our pages and post content and other engage-able stories we will get visitors to our pages. The best example is one page i developed and built it up to 100 likes after doing this i left it alone to see what would happen. It is now over 750 likes and has good engagement for the weekly posts i have put into it. The page continues to grow and reaches more and more people. I have been able to market to the members who have liked my page and it still works. As far as Facebook ad's and marketing, yes it still works but like anything out there it continues to change and develop so we need to be aware of the changes and adjust what we do on the fly so it still works for us.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10175867].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author TrafficFlow
      I have over 26,000 fans on one Facebook fan page but I find that it is my Aweber email list that really makes the money and that the fan page only makes money to the extent it acts as a vehicle to expanding my email list.

      Also to avoid high fees on Aweber keep your list to under 10,000
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10175878].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author GregtheWriter
    Sure it was said above, but facebook is a power house marketer's wet direct response dream.

    You want to build a like campaign around your page, split-test for the cheapest likes possible for your target audience. Use something like AdEspresso to test it and really get down to the nitty-gritty cheapest likes possible.

    Then once you get in the 200-500 likes range, you use that as a custom audience to promote content.

    Yes, organic reach is dead, but paid is better and faster. The thing is, this custom audience is going be way cheaper to market to then say just targeting someone else's page likes. All of your really cool content you made should be on a blog or website, so even if the content is pretty much 100% value without any pitch, there is still a chance they can buy something.

    You boost those content post, make sure optimized for website vistors to get the most visits.

    Post cool videos or image, boost to optimize for engagement.

    And when you have an offer you want to promote directly to your audience, promote capture page to collect leads. It should all be about leads, building your mailing list to deepen the relationship.

    Then you download that lead list and you can "exclude" that list and market direct offers to fan page likes only to compare it against marketing direct to the lead list using fb ads.

    Could even throw retargeting pixels in so you can target people who visited your website content or lead page but happened not to become a lead or didn't buy anything.

    FB is a beast... definitely do the business page.

    If you want a course on facebook that helped me, just PM me and I'll send you a link to it don't want promote it here.

    There is a ton of neat tricks you can do, and the beauty is if you find 1 campaign that is working really well, you can scale it massively pretty quickly.
    Signature
    Free Video Series Show You the Exact Tools Six-Figure Affiliate & Network Marketers Use
    Attract. Sponsor. Build an Empire.

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10176458].message }}

Trending Topics