MLM section

by candoit2 31 replies
Let's give mlm people a section all mlm type threads and discussion can be put into.

That would solve the MLM posts showing up in the main forum where most do not want to see them, and give mlm people a chance to discuss their business model without being bothered by those who don`t like it.

Many do not want to see MLM topics on the main forum and threads usually do not go well, as the general population is not interested in it.

Yet MLM is not a banned topic, so since mlm discussion is allowed and is just as much an industry as CPA is the forum would be a more cohesive place if MLM had it`s own section.

If you don`t want to read about MLM you won`t need to. If you do, you can discuss it in a place others who dont like it dont need to be.

Win win for all.
#suggestion forum #mlm #section
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  • Profile picture of the author davidbatchelor
    Originally Posted by AaronJones View Post

    Let's give mlm people a section all mlm type threads and discussion can be put into.

    That would solve the MLM posts showing up in the main forum where most do not want to see them, and give mlm people a chance to discuss their business model without being bothered by those who don`t like it.

    Many do not want to see MLM topics on the main forum and threads usually do not go well, as the general population is not interested in it.

    Yet MLM is not a banned topic, so since mlm discussion is allowed and is just as much an industry as CPA is the forum would be a more cohesive place if MLM had it`s own section.

    If you don`t want to read about MLM you won`t need to. If you do, you can discuss it in a place others who dont like it dont need to be.

    Win win for all.
    Now there is a great idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author shazaman
    The last mlm I tried was infinity, most are going toward empower or seems like it
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    • Profile picture of the author davidbatchelor
      Originally Posted by shazaman View Post

      The last mlm I tried was infinity, most are going toward empower or seems like it
      Do you mean empower network?
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    • Profile picture of the author movemaker
      Originally Posted by shazaman View Post

      The last mlm I tried was infinity, most are going toward empower or seems like it
      Yes i agree with you here. Everyone is pushing empower right now. Their are a few others as well that are secretly making bank.

      That marketplace is huge!
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  • Profile picture of the author jonrpatrick
    Good idea!
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  • Surely too many people get burnt with MLM?
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    • Profile picture of the author davidbatchelor
      Originally Posted by Internet_Corporation View Post

      Surely too many people get burnt with MLM?
      Would more get burnt from MLM compared to affiliate programs?
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      • Originally Posted by davidbatchelor View Post

        Would more get burnt from MLM compared to affiliate programs?
        I'm not sure David, I've never compared the 2, but I believe the WF does already have an anti MLM approach.

        You may have a good idea, I'm only commenting based on my experiences.
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    • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
      Originally Posted by Internet_Corporation View Post

      Surely too many people get burnt with MLM?
      Not all MLMs are bad, they've just been given a bad name. But so has internet marketing as a whole...
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      • Profile picture of the author mikeyespo
        Most of the mlms may sound good in concept, as we know sexy sells. So the more sexy they can make there products sound about all the things they are going to do and make it look how easy it will be to bring people with these sexy products ...the bigger there initial pre launches and launches will be. But if the concept never becomes a solid product where the company can sustain itself on product and not just increased distributors, then its nothing more than a money scheme doom to fail within a few years at the most.
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        • Profile picture of the author davidbatchelor
          Originally Posted by mikeyespo View Post

          Most of the mlms may sound good in concept, as we know sexy sells. So the more sexy they can make there products sound about all the things they are going to do and make it look how easy it will be to bring people with these sexy products ...the bigger there initial pre launches and launches will be. But if the concept never becomes a solid product where the company can sustain itself on product and not just increased distributors, then its nothing more than a money scheme doom to fail within a few years at the most.
          Very well said.
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  • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
    Have you visited and read MLM forums? I'd vote against having those discussed here. Or Paid To _____ forums. Anytime someone makes a post complaining about the quality of WSOs, they should go visit those forums.

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    • Profile picture of the author Jack Bastide
      MLM is simply a Multi Tiered Affiliate Program

      Instead of just getting paid on your own sales you can also
      build a Sales team and make overrides on your Sales Team

      For those Internet Marketers that say MLM is scammy or hypey
      you must be kidding ...

      Practically every Guru "Launch" is a lot more hypey than any
      MLM could ever hope to be

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  • Profile picture of the author dtstrading
    I joined ACN only 3 weeks ago and I am already 6 levels deep (can provide proof if you like). Because the whole system is based on essential services like electricity, gas, tv, etc. Click my signature for more info.
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    • Profile picture of the author davidbatchelor
      Originally Posted by dtstrading View Post

      I joined ACN only 3 weeks ago and I am already 6 levels deep (can provide proof if you like). Because the whole system is based on essential services like electricity, gas, tv, etc. Click my signature for more info.
      And I presume you did it all through spamming?
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    • Profile picture of the author wizbiz
      Originally Posted by dtstrading View Post

      I joined ACN only 3 weeks ago and I am already 6 levels deep (can provide proof if you like). Because the whole system is based on essential services like electricity, gas, tv, etc.
      Yes, and please name me anyone in USA who's doesn't already have Mobil Phone or Cable or Electric Service, how do you approach them? Saying: "hey dude, cancel your account and open it trough my affiliate link?" And he said what would I'll have for that?
      Discount? Anything? None? You said, "NO!", we have same prices.. So what the heck, I have to switch my cable company (for example) for? And whole system is based on recruting, cause otherwise you'll only getting 4% of the Total bill spend, if you just selling services, with the middle bill $100 you'll be getting $4 per month, now, if you want to make $4000, you need to approach 1000 people Is that even possible?
      And where you can find the people who can pay $480 ("Entry fee") just for join ("getting franchise"?). At least other MLM's give you something, I don't know Juice, Health product, whatever, for your money, ACN give you nothing, just ability to run like rabbit and find people without cell phone, cables, Gas or Electric, Who are those people? Homeless? And why they should sign up under you, if prices are THE SAME,
      why bother? I dunno.

      Actually I'm looking some legit MLM with the hot product to sell..
      PM me if you have something in mind.
      Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author TroyCo
    This is a great idea! there are many mlm's that could be marketed effectively online!
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  • Profile picture of the author robbdogg30
    I totally agree with you pal. MlM are treated like the Spam of the internet and they always catch a bad wrap!
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    • Profile picture of the author milla04
      Originally Posted by robbdogg30 View Post

      I totally agree with you pal. MlM are treated like the Spam of the internet and they always catch a bad wrap!
      I disagree with that, lets no forget Google have penalised affiliate sites, plus blog comments have lots the value because affiliate markers have tried to gain the system.

      In my opinion, 95% of mlm programs WILL make you money, its just people who dont have the determination to stick with it and succeed rather than complaining and posting on websites "I have just joined a company 20 days a go and havent made any money" what should I do. well duh

      Sorry about that, a bit of a rant..
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  • Profile picture of the author MLMCoach
    Its a good to start a separate thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author webdeep
    Good idea! Let's create mlm section !!
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  • Profile picture of the author TroyCo
    Seriously, can we get this done already
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  • Profile picture of the author ziubzia
    I'd be excited to see this suggestion made a reality, I have a wealth of experience in MLM and have to say they are given a bad name.

    I mean like anything that's worth anything you need to put effort into it, get rich quick schemes generally don't ever live up to what they say they are.
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    • Profile picture of the author davidbatchelor
      Originally Posted by ziubzia View Post

      get rich quick schemes generally don't ever live up to what they say they are.
      I totally agree. It's amazing how many people get lured into that get rich quick mentailty though.

      I mean just look at Empower Network and Pure Leverage as a couple of examples and the multitudes they have sucked in.
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  • Profile picture of the author sivricmarijan
    I also think it's a great idea but we must make sure that we talk about real MLM opportunities and not about some stupid programs...and trust me, this will be hard!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Burritt
    Hooray! We could just recruit each other!

    Uh, I mean have serious academic discussions about the direct selling industry
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  • Profile picture of the author younganddirty
    i would like it.
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveSki
    The problem with MLM is most (but not all) have over hyped, over priced products and because of the low cost to get involved they attract a lot of people who think Network Marketing is the same as sales and they go about giving sales presentations to people who didn't ask for one. There are already plenty of MLM forums they could go to now.
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    • Profile picture of the author davidbatchelor
      Originally Posted by SteveSki View Post

      The problem with MLM is most (but not all) have over hyped, over priced products and because of the low cost to get involved they attract a lot of people who think Network Marketing is the same as sales and they go about giving sales presentations to people who didn't ask for one. There are already plenty of MLM forums they could go to now.
      The ironic thing is that they say their channel costs a lot less in costs and yet they still bump the prices up and try and justify it by saying their product is far superior to anything you can get at the shop, ya right.

      The only MLM company Iknow of that does beat the main stream on price and service is SendOutCards.
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      • Profile picture of the author SteveSki
        Originally Posted by davidbatchelor View Post

        The ironic thing is that they say their channel costs a lot less in costs and yet they still bump the prices up and try and justify it by saying their product is far superior to anything you can get at the shop, ya right.

        The only MLM company Iknow of that does beat the main stream on price and service is SendOutCards.
        Yes… the original pitch was they had cut out the middlemen by taking the product straight from the manufacturer to the end user and instead of buying media ads they pay their advertising budget to their distributors. The promise was higher quality products priced less than what was available locally, better service and the opportunity to get paid to refer others to something that would appeal to everyone.

        SendOutCards is one of the very few that actually delivers on that promise.

        Other major problems of not living up to that promise is Network Marketing attracts a lot of people who do not have the skills required to build the business. And it’s not their fault. They do what their upline leaders tell them to but only end up losing their friends over the sales tactics they learned from their upline. They turn to their uplines who for the most part also lack the skills. Yet the skills are very simple… they just aren’t taught because most people don’t know them. So instead, they are taught to sell, sell, sell… in the old school American style of sales which originated from door to door Bible salesmen and today’s smart consumers are immune to those old tactics. They know that if there were no income opportunity attached to your MLM deal you wouldn’t be pitching it because anyone can go to their local shopping center and buy the same products under a different name for far less money.

        Example: In my town there is a manufacturer of Aloe Vera products… a few years ago they were purchased by a MLM company. I can still purchase a large bottle direct from the plant for $18 per bottle or off the shelve from the local health food store for $24.95 but if I were to join the MLM company who now owns the plant my distributor price would be $40 per bottle and I’d be told to retail it for at least $60.00

        So before joining any MLM opportunity, always ask yourself… would I buy and use these products at the prices they are being sold for and tell others how good they are if there was no financial incentive for me to do so?

        The answer to that question will eliminate about 98% of MLM companies.

        I failed for years in MLM because of the above factors. It wasn’t until I moved from the States to Australia and read the book “Wombat Selling” that I started to have a bit of success with a Network Marketing company.

        WOMBAT stands for…. Word of Mouth Buy And Tell. You can download the book for free at: http://tinyurl.com/ouqzkk6

        Here’s the front and back cover of it:



        Pay extra attention to the sections covering MLM.

        I used the principles in that book to triple the profits of my photography studio but had difficulties applying them to the health and nutrition MLM deal I was in. The product was “Kakadu Juice” a super juice made from native Australian Bush Plants along with a combination of other popular super foods. I thought that it was a great product to promote because you could not find it anywhere else. That was true until September of 2008 when “Australian Bush Juice” started turning up on the shelves of my local health food store at a retail price of about one half of my wholesale cost. So I dropped it. If you do a google search for the product you’ll see that the free blog that I set up to promote it at http://www.kakadu-juice.blogspot.com.au/ still ranks on the first page even through I haven’t touched it in nearly 5 years.

        About a year ago I stumbled onto a series of free MLM training videos that expanded on the principles taught in the WOMBAT Book and gave some very useful tips.

        Based on the value I found in watching the free videos I wanted to purchase his $500 training course but he only opens it to new members once or twice a year so I had to wait months to take the training. I wish it were available 30 years ago. It’s the training that is missing from the Network Marketing Profession. And no, I’m not promoting it. There is no affiliate program for it and I only teach it to members of my down line.

        I’m grateful that my mentor only opens the program up to new students for a 10 day period twice a year because the long wait I had gave me time to research hundreds of MLM companies and do due diligence on the most promising ones. So I was able to narrow the choices down to just 3 companies. Sendoutcards was one but I decided to just use their service to help market both my photography business and the MLM I’m now with. I settle on my present company mainly because of 3 things… 1) an established track record over the last 5 years. 2) a fair and very profitable compensation plan, and 3) a competitively priced product that everyone would love to have a garage full of. Sendoutcards is a great company with a great product but it’s not my primary choice. However, anyone who owns a business can use Sendoutcards to increase their business.

        Sendoutcards likes to mention Joe Girard’s secret to success was (read about Joe and SendOutCards at http://tinyurl.com/pp44pvu ) was sending cards. But that’s not what got Joe started. In fact, it wasn’t until Joe got fired from the first auto dealership he worked at for being too aggressive that he got serious about sending out cards and hired two full time assistants to help him.

        The tool that got him started and helped him more than sending out cards is the same tool that networking professionals still use today to build their business and no, its not posting on the internet.

        Cheers,
        Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    mlm section is cool . =)
    Just joined an mlm 1 month back, still doing it offline but soon will make it online. It's in evergreen niche, and I was offered 3 years back in the same industry but non-mlm company, a franchise business model, it was offered around $10,000 but I rejected it. 1 year ago it's offered @ $50,000 .... now I decided to join an MLM with cool product in the same industry that 3 years ago I was offered.

    Will be glad if there's an mlm section here in WF. Lovely forum
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