I sold expensive computers, now i cant even sell an online magazine

by cap360
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hi


....i was top salesperson at staples ....
but i cant even sell an online magazine ....
check out my site tell me my flaws please

Soccer Magazine World

thanks
#computers #expensive #magazine #marketing #online #sell #sold
  • Profile picture of the author miklanderson2
    I think you're having a tough time because you're trying to sell soccer memes. They aren't exactly hard to find for free, and anyone who wants to see them can find tens of thousands of them for free on Facebook and Google. You've got to offer something people are actually willing to pay money for...
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    • Profile picture of the author travisl
      Originally Posted by miklanderson2 View Post

      I think you're having a tough time because you're trying to sell soccer memes. They aren't exactly hard to find for free, and anyone who wants to see them can find tens of thousands of them for free on Facebook and Google. You've got to offer something people are actually willing to pay money for...
      In other words you need to solve a problem. That is the only thing that people are ever willing to pay for.

      PROBLEM = I need more web traffic.

      SOLUTION = Buy a WSO that teaches me to do so.

      Just an example. People are doing it every day here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
    This might just be the worst sales page I have ever seen.
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    • Profile picture of the author salegurus
      Originally Posted by Curtis2011 View Post

      This might just be the worst sales page I have ever seen.
      One of the worst, also does not help that the product is a loser...
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      • Profile picture of the author WarTiger
        :-) sales page is really one of the worst which I also ever seen, and you can find all this very easy on internet
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
          Its different selling when you can interact with people and counter their objections. Writing copy for a page has to answer their objections to buying upfront or intrigue them into buying to find out what the real deal is.

          Your site is knid of old school but honestly, I have not seen a many football pages, so they all might look like this. The threat of having the price go up is probably not too compelling when the price point is only 5 dollars. Even if the price doubled, it might not be a stopping place in the sales process if somebody really wanted your product.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Batt
    While the sales copy isn't the best I don't think that's the reason that you aren't selling any. The product doesn't really really fit any gap in the market. As was said above; you can get football memes for free. Maybe have a rethink of your sales model; is there another product you could sell that this could be a bonus to? Or is there other products you could be an affiliate for and you could use this as a free gift to build a list?

    The product could be used for something but I don't think many people would be willing to pay money for it.

    Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author cap360
    i just launched the site 2 days ago


    so lets wait and see
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    • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
      Originally Posted by cap360 View Post

      i just launched the site 2 days ago


      so lets wait and see
      OK... I totally get it, now. You aren't looking for advice. You hoped to gain
      free advertising via the largest marketing foum on the internet.,

      First, you tell us you can't sell the thing then you say it's only
      been up a couple days and let's wait and see.

      Your inquiry was a phony ploy. The good thing is you got instant
      feedback from what you hoped would be a ripe market.

      Your potential market here despises your offering.

      That's a clue...

      Do better...
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      • Profile picture of the author pilot47
        Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

        OK... I totally get it, now. You aren't looking for advice. You hoped to gain
        free advertising via the largest marketing foum on the internet.,

        First, you tell us you can't sell the thing then you say it's only
        been up a couple days and let's wait and see.

        Your inquiry was a phony ploy. The good thing is you got instant
        feedback from what you hoped would be a ripe market.

        Your potential market here despises your offering.

        That's a clue...

        Do better...
        My thoughts exactly. Tsnyder is right.

        I agree with him.

        If this is just a hidden advertisement, you've got your answers now... anyway
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      • Profile picture of the author cap360
        Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

        OK... I totally get it, now. You aren't looking for advice. You hoped to gain
        free advertising via the largest marketing foum on the internet.,

        First, you tell us you can't sell the thing then you say it's only
        been up a couple days and let's wait and see.

        Your inquiry was a phony ploy. The good thing is you got instant
        feedback from what you hoped would be a ripe market.

        Your potential market here despises your offering.

        That's a clue...

        Do better...
        what are you talkin about dude??? i dont need advertising i get enough from facebook

        i just asked question because no one bought my magazine after 100 clicks or so
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  • Profile picture of the author pilot47
    People need expansive computers
    they don't need... this
    to be honest, that site looks a lot like spam... Like I'd get a virus visiting it... not to mention buyyin somthing from it...
    doesn't create trust at all
    and it's not even a problem that you're solving
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeShaw
      I think it's too bright. I got a headache reading the page lol
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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        "I have been reading up on Football(Soccer) news everyday "

        This statement alone doesn't portray someone who is Authoritative in the Niche.

        I think of you as someone who decided to dabble in this and start reading about it.

        Consequently, you do NOT seem as legit and that big of a deal. Image can be everything.

        Sound more convincing ,i.e. you eat , sleep and breath this stuff



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  • Profile picture of the author sanj1110
    Yes colorful virus thats what the site is
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  • Profile picture of the author AmanD
    I can't see anybody paying for this. The content you are trying to get people to pay for should probably be the content you are giving away for free to drive traffic to your football related site. It's the sort of thing people might click on to see more of, but nobody wants to pay for it.

    I'm not sure the best way to monetize this niche from there though.
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  • Profile picture of the author NeedBucksNow
    Would be better off to have a short direct optin that gets them to join your mailing list instead of trying to sell them as soon as they come onto the site. 1st impression is everything & imagine that you are seeing your website for the very 1st time & have 2 seconds to check it out. Most people won't even read what you have if it doesn't catch there attention right away
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    • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
      Originally Posted by Complex View Post

      You didn't sell while at Staples.

      At least, not as much as you think. They did MOST of the selling for you. They spent billions of dollars building a brand that people know and trust. They negotiated deals with product vendors that allow them to charge competitive prices. They chose locations based on geography that would give them the best odds of being able to get traffic in the door.

      You were an associate. People walked in the door, knowing that they wanted to buy a computer, and you guided them to the one they wanted to buy.

      Not to take anything away from you.

      But you didn't do what you thought you did.

      And now you are finding that out.

      You now have to do the branding. Finding the competitive advantages. All the "behind the scenes" things that go into selling that the vast majority of folks don't have a clue about because it's deeper than the superficial that they see.

      Welcome to running your own shit.
      BANG!!!! Smartest post I've seen on this forum in a long while...

      Standing around a retail gig waiting for people to walk in with
      the intent to buy is a whole different ball game.
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    • Profile picture of the author cap360
      Originally Posted by Complex View Post

      You didn't sell while at Staples.

      At least, not as much as you think. They did MOST of the selling for you. They spent billions of dollars building a brand that people know and trust. They negotiated deals with product vendors that allow them to charge competitive prices. They chose locations based on geography that would give them the best odds of being able to get traffic in the door.

      You were an associate. People walked in the door, knowing that they wanted to buy a computer, and you guided them to the one they wanted to buy.

      Not to take anything away from you.

      But you didn't do what you thought you did.

      And now you are finding that out.

      You now have to do the branding. Finding the competitive advantages. All the "behind the scenes" things that go into selling that the vast majority of folks don't have a clue about because it's deeper than the superficial that they see.

      Welcome to running your own shit.
      lol are you shittin me dude?
      sales is the toughest job ever...and its an art and skill to sell stuff to ppl
      im talkin expensive computers with expensive warrantees and set ups...now can you sell a $200 set up to a guy that knows computers?
      come on....
      all im askin for is a little guidance here and all i get is hatred ...you guys are no help
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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        Originally Posted by cap360 View Post

        lol are you shittin me dude?
        sales is the toughest job ever...and its an art and skill to sell stuff to ppl
        im talkin expensive computers with expensive warrantees and set ups...now can you sell a $200 set up to a guy that knows computers?
        come on....
        all im askin for is a little guidance here and all i get is hatred ...you guys are no help
        Hey Cap,
        I know retail can be more than just taking Orders. I have seen it time and time again. Turning window shoppers into paying customers is both a skill and art form. I have gone into Best Buy myself just to look at Computers and by the time I left I had bought a brand new Lap top !

        You know why ? Because the sales clerk used his persuasion skills and expertise to convince me to buy. It happened twice.

        So I do not doubt what you say


        That being said, your Product is honestly something that can be found on Youtube in just seconds.

        Unless you have some tricks up your sleeve that we don't know about and we have to purchase the product to see .

        I tell you what... I will purchase it and take a look at it and see what I think. And come back here with my honest opinion.
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        • Profile picture of the author cap360
          Originally Posted by discrat View Post

          Hey Cap,
          I know retail can be more than just taking Orders. I have seen it time and time again. Turning window shoppers into paying customers is both a skill and art form. I have gone into Best Buy myself just to look at Computers and by the time I left I had bought a brand new Lap top !

          You know why ? Because the sales clerk used his persuasion skills and expertise to convince me to buy. It happened twice.

          So I do not doubt what you say


          That being said, your Product is honestly something that can be found on Youtube in just seconds.

          Unless you have some tricks up your sleeve that we don't know about and we have to purchase the product to see .

          I tell you what... I will purchase it and take a look at it and see what I think. And come back here with my honest opinion.

          ok sounds good!
          thanks man
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  • Profile picture of the author backlinkmasters
    Personally, I don't think a sales page like that is the best for selling something like a magazine. I would try to more build a website around the topic of the magazine, and offer premium content as the paid option.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Few problems:

    1) Instant positive perception isn't there
    2) Sales copy sucks
    3) Sales page sucks
    4) You should be generating leads
    5) Yeah, there's more....

    All can be fixed. You mentioned the word "sexiest" in your headline... there's nothing sexy about anything on that sales page.
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    • Profile picture of the author cap360
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      Few problems:

      1) Instant positive perception isn't there
      2) Sales copy sucks
      3) Sales page sucks
      4) You should be generating leads
      5) Yeah, there's more....

      All can be fixed. You mentioned the word "sexiest" in your headline... there's nothing sexy about anything on that sales page.

      my orginal site was
      Soccer Meme E Magazine
      someone on here mentioned i make a sales page and i did

      now you tellin me it sucks?
      got better suggestions...

      guess what i know the issue....most of my viewers are spanish..almost 85%..i think thats why
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  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    Do you have the rights to the images you are selling and the right to transfer usage rights to your buyers?

    Collected Photos?
    "Over 100 Photos: When I say awesome photos, it means awesome photos. Work of a year picking out the best Football photos from around the world."

    More collected photos:
    "I have compiled the best and sexiest fans from the football world right at the tip of your fingers ! Let the national pride flow!"

    And this:
    "Once you get this e magazine, you can do WHATEVER you want with it. You are a FREE person. Complete Label Rights from us."

    It seems a little shady.

    If someone started selling your e-magazine as their own under a different title would they be liable for damages if someone like Getty images sued them?

    Or would the contract you have with them selling the rights make you the target of the lawsuit?

    Or do you provide a valid license for the included photos?
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    • Profile picture of the author cap360
      Originally Posted by onSubie View Post

      Do you have the rights to the images you are selling and the right to transfer usage rights to your buyers?

      Collected Photos?
      "Over 100 Photos: When I say awesome photos, it means awesome photos. Work of a year picking out the best Football photos from around the world."

      More collected photos:
      "I have compiled the best and sexiest fans from the football world right at the tip of your fingers ! Let the national pride flow!"

      And this:
      "Once you get this e magazine, you can do WHATEVER you want with it. You are a FREE person. Complete Label Rights from us."

      It seems a little shady.

      If someone started selling your e-magazine as their own under a different title would they be liable for damages if someone like Getty images sued them?

      Or would the contract you have with them selling the rights make you the target of the lawsuit?

      Or do you provide a valid license for the included photos?

      i didnt know what else to put in as bonus...i read an educational video and they said put private rights label...

      maybe ill change it then
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  • Profile picture of the author cap360
    i think the problem i see here is that....mostly spanish people are not buying it because all my hits are from latin america

    i need to make a spanish sales page
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  • Profile picture of the author cap360
    i think the problem with my page is its too long (people might feel discouraged) , and its not spanish..done deal
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    • Profile picture of the author positivenegative
      Originally Posted by cap360 View Post

      i think the problem with my page is its too long (people might feel discouraged) , and its not spanish..done deal
      The problem is not with the page (that can be fixed). You'll see the problem by looking in a mirror; you've got one serious attitude problem, and it doesn't sound like that can be fixed in a hurry.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Okay, you've got some feedback. If the main part of your market is Spanish speaking then get everything done in Spanish.

    As for what you're selling being available for free, I have no idea. I'm not familiar with the market. One thing I do know is that I've sold tons of stuff that was available free over the years. I just added a lot of value to it and put it all in one nice little package. Can you do that? Since I don't understand what you're selling, I don't know.

    I think the overall idea for your page is pretty decent. I think your execution is pretty awful. I do believe a comic presentation would work however, the amateurish formatting and the layout are killing you. Find a good designer (one who understands this market and speaks fluent Spanish) and let him know what you're going after.

    Unlike some of the criticism here I don't think this is a total loss. But you do have a lot of work to do to make it pay. Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author cap360
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      Okay, you've got some feedback. If the main part of your market is Spanish speaking then get everything done in Spanish.

      As for what you're selling being available for free, I have no idea. I'm not familiar with the market. One thing I do know is that I've sold tons of stuff that was available free over the years. I just added a lot of value to it and put it all in one nice little package. Can you do that? Since I don't understand what you're selling, I don't know.

      I think the overall idea for your page is pretty decent. I think your execution is pretty awful. I do believe a comic presentation would work however, the amateurish formatting and the layout are killing you. Find a good designer (one who understands this market and speaks fluent Spanish) and let him know what you're going after.

      Unlike some of the criticism here I don't think this is a total loss. But you do have a lot of work to do to make it pay. Good luck.
      I love you man!
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  • Profile picture of the author cap360
    anyways i listened to your comments
    and i made the page as simple as possible

    if it doesnt sell i will hire a designer...and go from there..
    cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author sunoy14
    I think you can get a lot of visitors for your niche. But I don't think anyone is going to pay for such stuff. Its all over the social medias for free. I think you are better off putting them up on website for free and then adding banner ads or some other products. Your product could actually be great for driving traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author storedealstalk
    Hey bro, not bad for a newbie, you created a good site but as what other says no one would like to buy on a site like this. Anyways that's a good start and good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author cap360
      Originally Posted by storedealstalk View Post

      Hey bro, not bad for a newbie, you created a good site but as what other says no one would like to buy on a site like this. Anyways that's a good start and good luck.

      Why wouldnt you?
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonthewebmaster
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    As a former direct sales expert, here is my advice..

    you say you sold computers... ok so you know how most people buying a PC dont know anything about the hardware specs... if you try to sell them 500GB hard drive and a quad core processor and awesome video card etc then most wont have a clue you are speaking greek. But if you ask them questions like "What do you plan to use the PC for" and "how fast do you need for it to be" etc then you can tell them "yeah this PC right here is perfect for what you need and will let you stream movies and play games all at once" or something then what you are doing is you are engaging the customer's needs and wants and selling to them based on their level of what they want and what they need using terms they understand such as "here is the result or here is what you will get" with this item rather than "here is this item's specs"

    anyway that is an example of how you need to sell, no matter the product or service, catering the the customers needs and it works in an industry even magazines!! if you can apply the same method to it.

    hope this helps, cheers!
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      I see your website it is good but some problems in your website ,to resolve this problem.
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    Forget everything you think you know & start over with a product that makes sense.
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    • Profile picture of the author cap360
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Forget everything you think you know & start over with a product that makes sense.
      like what? viagara?
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