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It didn�t work out and anything else that has a ' in it is making my pages look awful. In The Kitchen, by Beth Havey is particularly horrid. This didn't happen until I bought a computer with vista on it. Any kind of a solution would make me feel better when I look at my site. Does anyone know the literal html symbol for ' and " ?
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  • Profile picture of the author xeocop
    can you explain this again, please i will try to help you
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    • Profile picture of the author quicksilver
      Hi

      I just looked at the source of your page and it is a mess. No structure, a million tags too many.

      I see this:
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      ds hanging down and the dreams still lingering behind our eyelids.&nbsp;</font></p><p><img border="0" src="kitchentable.jpg" align="right" alt="The Old Kitchen Table... Photo by Beth Havey, All Rights Reserved." width="397" height="297"><font size="4"><b><font color="#0000FF">I</font></b>t wasn't just the liver sausage sandwiches with mayonnaise, or even the grilled cheese sandwiches and tomato soup that kept my dreams alive at home.&nbsp; Mostly it was my mother's kitchen table that did that.&nbsp; It was a scarred mahogany library table which she had covered with red gingham oilcloth. It was perfect for rolling out dough, playing with finger paints, doing homework, or just sitting mesmerized by the red, blue, and yellow roosters strutting on the wallpaper above the green plaster dado.&nbsp;</font></p><p><font size="4">There were way too many moments in my life when I escaped the memory of my math teacher's face or avoided my mother's admonishment to read the newspaper, and just sat, lost in the festive feathers of those bantam roosters.&nbsp;</font></p><p><font size="4">The heart of our home was in the old kitchen. That's where we gathered. It was the kitchen we first stumbled into as toddlers clutching a baby bottle.&nbsp; It was the kitchen we ran into as children eager for Sugar Pops or to see the face of the hero on the Wheatie's box.&nbsp;</font></p><p><font size="4"><b><font color="#0000FF">W</font></b>e ambled there as teenagers bringing our friends and perusing the contents of the refrigerator. It was the rule to complain about what was found, the rule to combine foods in taboo ways--peanut butter and egg salad--and then shriek with laugher.&nbsp;</font></p><p><font size="4">There were many moments when my mother stood at the enamel kitchen sink, her back to us, struggling for a stern posture, stifling a laugh. My brothers and I knew what would come next--a penalty of sorts, a dictum from on high. She'd point to the blackboard she had nailed up over the sink where chores were marked off for each of us; we'd stare at the penetrating words--wash, dry, put away.&nbsp;</font></p><p><font size="4"><font color="#0000FF"><b>S</b></font>he'd dish out something punishing for the child of the moment--clean the hated greasy meat grinder used for making hash or scrub the wooden rolling pin sticky with dough.&nbsp;</font></p><p><font size="4">The kitchen was my mother's room. She filled the small space with her warm gestures and words, conducted those important talks around the dinner table, and she was always there to kiss us goodbye or hug us hello.&nbsp;</font></p><p><font size="4">Any kitchen worth its salt could also become the center of the storm.&nbsp; One morning my older brother had fallen asleep over his Greek or Latin translation and now blamed my mother for sending him to a school that worked him to death. One morning I burned the toast. Three times. One morning my younger brother appeared crying--the newly assigned patrol boy was the neighborhood bully.&nbsp;</font></p><p><font size="4"><font color="#0000FF"><b>O</b></font>n those forever mornings chaos blocked out kind words, if any words at all.&nbsp; We forgot to help one another as we raced around the kitchen, bumping into things with that "mother threat" hanging over us--things would not go well for us if we dropped the half-gallon glass milk bottle on the

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      And it should look like this:

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      We would trudge back to school with our heads hanging down and the dreams still lingering behind
      our eyelids.
      <p>
      <img border="0" src="kitchentable.jpg" align="right" alt="The Old Kitchen Table...
      Photo by Beth Havey, All Rights Reserved." width="397" height="297"><font size="4">
      <b><font color="#0000FF">I</font></b>t wasn't just the liver sausage sandwiches with mayonnaise, or
      even the grilled cheese sandwiches and tomato soup that kept my dreams alive at home. Mostly it was
      my mother's kitchen table that did that. It was a scarred mahogany library table which she had
      covered with red gingham oilcloth. It was perfect for rolling out dough, playing with finger paints,
      doing homework, or just sitting mesmerized by the red, blue, and yellow roosters strutting on the
      wallpaper above the green plaster dado.
      <p>
      There were way too many moments in my life when I escaped the memory of my math teacher's face or
      avoided my mother's admonishment to read the newspaper, and just sat, lost in the festive feathers
      of those bantam roosters.
      <p>
      The heart of our home was in the old kitchen. That's where we gathered. It was the kitchen we first
      stumbled into as toddlers clutching a baby bottle. It was the kitchen we ran into as children eager
      for Sugar Pops or to see the face of the hero on the Wheatie's box.
      <p>


      Get the idea? I've redone the main body of the page and attached it as a txt file.

      Did you do it or someone else? I hope you didn't pay for it!!

      Nice story by the way.

      And yes, my WSO might interest you. See below.

      Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author talewins
    Thank you Mike. That really tightened that page up. I will use your advice to tighten up the rest of my pages.

    But I guess most of the problem was in the FireFox memory system because after I spliced in your helpful html and went to look at it on line I have not found another ? where a ' or a " used to be anywhere on any of my 5,000 pages at Tale Wins or anyone else's pages either that I have been plagued with.
    That is a great looking sales letter you have for your html book. Do you have an alternate page for non-warriors that I can direct traffic to from Build Your Own Web Site and Make Money From It ?
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    • Profile picture of the author rwil02
      Actually, it was probably a UTF-8 to ANSI/ACSII conversion issue.
      Vista had probably "nicely" replaced your straight quotes with left/right single or double quotes that were not in the default page characterset. such characters are then displayed as ? or the square box you (might) see in the first line of your post above.
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      • Profile picture of the author talewins
        Originally Posted by rwil02 View Post

        Actually, it was probably a UTF-8 to ANSI/ACSII conversion issue.
        Vista had probably "nicely" replaced your straight quotes with left/right single or double quotes that were not in the default page characterset. such characters are then displayed as ? or the square box you (might) see in the first line of your post above.
        I'll tell you what.. Every time I fire Vista up a dozen changes have been made to my computer -- from the way it sees to the way it shows. With every change made my computer slows down more and more pre-vista software gasps its last pitiful gasp.

        Just a few minutes ago I fired up and suddenly I have pretty, oversized icons that don't mean a thing to me, plus my desktop has 20 more shortcuts than I had at 1800 hours.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeHayes
      Hi Tales,

      Glad I could be of help and thanks for buying.
      The non-warrior link is below.
      Thanks for the link.
      Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeHayes
        Hi Tales,

        Just had a look at the site and it needs a bit more work. If you like I'll polish the rest up as a favour.

        One thing, the paragraph "Working at home is easy" has shot to the left most probably because there's an end table tag just above it which shouldn't be there.
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        sticky with dough.
        </table>
        <p align="left">
        <font color="#800000">
        <b>
        <font face="Palatino">
        <big><a href="../workathome.htm">Working at home is easy</a>... Yes, easy -- but only
        <br>
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        Regards,

        Mike
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeHayes
          Here's the HTML

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          • Profile picture of the author talewins
            Originally Posted by MikeHayes View Post

            Here's the HTML

            Mike
            Thanks Mike. I'm having a great time with reading your book. I didn't see your public price anywhere. Could I have that to work it into my endorsement?
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