Is there a wordpress theme like this?

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First of all, I want this to be "plug and play" completely - no worrying why things don't fit when they look like they should, no spending days just trying to change a color or a header. No coding WHATSOEVER.

Want to be able to change the header at the top of the page, and the color theme, EASILY. Want to be able to set up one and clone it easily for more sites. Want it compatible with wpzonbuilder. Want good responsive support if I need it, but want it so simple that I won't need to contact support at all.

Ok, that's it - whatcha got?
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    What you need is not a theme... you need a webmaster who knows WP. It's that simple
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  • Profile picture of the author Evan-M
    Originally Posted by Matthew Shelton View Post

    First of all, I want this to be "plug and play" completely - no worrying why things don't fit when they look like they should, no spending days just trying to change a color or a header. No coding WHATSOEVER.

    Want to be able to change the header at the top of the page, and the color theme, EASILY. Want to be able to set up one and clone it easily for more sites. Want it compatible with wpzonbuilder. Want good responsive support if I need it, but want it so simple that I won't need to contact support at all.

    Ok, that's it - whatcha got?
    like Istvan Horvath said....

    Your looking for a silver bullet, and there isn't one. Did someone tell you , you can go online download a theme, do no work and be rich in a month? They gotta stop advertising they make everything seem so easy lol.
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    • Profile picture of the author Matthew Shelton
      Ok, this is good information - so are you are saying that the wordpress platform has not gotten to the point where you don't have to do a lot of messing with it, no matter that you pay for a premium theme?


      I can crank out XsitePro sites all day long, but there is just so much functionality being written for wordpress in the forms of plugins, such as wpzonbuilder, that I want to use wordpress. But, I want to be building a business, not futzing with the site details.

      And no I'm not talking get rich quick - I'm just talking about wordpress.
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    more importantly, whatcha got? $$$
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    Ok, this is good information - so are you are saying that the wordpress platform has not gotten to the point where you don't have to do a lot of messing with it, no matter that you pay for a premium theme?
    Wordpress is there but I have no idea what themes are compatible with wpzonbuilder.

    Many premium themes come with fairly flexible backends that give you a lot of custom options. You could check out woo themes, elegant themes, studiopress, themeforest etc... and see if you can find something that fits your needs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    We are also not talking about "get rich quick" - we are talking professionals. Business people.

    You are either good at tweaking WP themes or you outsource it. What is so complicated?

    The deault WP 3 theme - TwentyTen - has, actually, more features than most of the "premium" themes; people are just lazy to look into it... yet they want the silver bullet.

    In my books there are only 2 options:
    you either learn the tool you are using or you hire a pro gun to do it for you.

    The rest is just empty talk
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Shelton
    Empty talk?? I'm trying to learn something here, and trying to get something done.

    I'm not trying to complicate anything - just want basic information.

    So you are saying all themes have to be tweaked, is that correct?

    That is what I need to know.

    If the only way to work with wordpress is to either really learn the platform or hire someone to do it, that is good information.
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    No, none of themes has to be tweaked. You can use all of them as they come.

    Most non-experienced WP users think that using WP+themes is a shortcut to "design" sites to their own liking. No, it is not a 'site design tool'. It is a content publishing tool and it does a helluva good job in that regard...

    You did the same mistake in your OP. You want a theme that would do a "design-my-site-as-I-want" job with simple clicks. That's a nonsense.

    As for your other question: when I say learn the platform I don't refer to the design/theme part. I am always thinking about the features that exists inside WP, at everybody's fingertip in the wp-admin... people just never take a look at them and they use WP very inefficiently.

    Looking for a theme should be the very last thing you do when setting up a WP site... and the most irrelevant when it comes about the success of the site.
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  • Profile picture of the author BAC Ops Manager
    HI There,

    Do check out the premium wordpress theme "Socrates". It is very powerful and makes what you say you need easy to do.

    Premium Wordpress Theme | Socrates | Create and Monetize a WordPress Blog in Minutes - not an affiliate link

    Thank you,

    Teddy
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  • Profile picture of the author michael scott
    I think you want to try the Thesis theme by Chris Pearson. It has a little bit of learning curve, but once you get the hang of it, it's 100% customizing fun and flexibility.
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    • Profile picture of the author Evan-M
      Originally Posted by michael scott View Post

      I think you want to try the Thesis theme by Chris Pearson. It has a little bit of learning curve, but once you get the hang of it, it's 100% customizing fun and flexibility.

      or just take that learning curve and apply it to the wordpress core. You will learn to do everything thesis does and then some.
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      • Profile picture of the author michael scott
        Originally Posted by Evan-M View Post

        or just take that learning curve and apply it to the wordpress core. You will learn to do everything thesis does and then some.
        true, but thesis uses forms of "hooks" so instead of learning html and php all you have to do is save a bunch of codes to be pasted whenever you need a functionality.

        What takes months to years to learn will be accomplished in a few hours.
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        • Profile picture of the author Evan-M
          Originally Posted by michael scott View Post

          true, but thesis uses forms of "hooks" so instead of learning html and php all you have to do is save a bunch of codes to be pasted whenever you need a functionality.

          What takes months to years to learn will be accomplished in a few hours.
          um wordpress has something called the wordpress loop, and by adding a functions.php file to the theme ( or in the case of twenty-ten its done for your) you can literary google/copy/paste your way to anything you want.

          basically the same thing as thesis ...wait were did thesis get the term hooks?

          they reused the name, because thats exactly what WordPress calls them lol


          10 Useful WordPress Hook Hacks - Smashing Magazine

          for the record Thesis is not a WordPress theme at all, it is a framework. WordPress itself is like a framework, and under that framework runs themes. Thesis is more like a framework that runs under the WordPress framework, and themes that run under Thesis are called "child themes."Thesis hooks allow for php code to be written to manipulate where you want items to appear on the page right? WordPress has this feature built-in, but Thesis limits you from copying/pasting code directly into the theme , what thesis brings to the table are limitations. The only useful feature Thesis offers is SEO, which All in one seo pack does better.


          lets give an example shall we?

          I want to make a quick page template for a page I want to layout differently.

          without thesis :

          grab the page.php file

          add

          /*
          Template Name: page template name
          */

          rename file
          make some alterations to the code

          upload.



          In thesis :



          create a file starting with
          /**
          * Template Name: whatever Page
          *
          * A custom template framework for creating pages with
          * wholly arbitrary layouts. DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE. Instead,
          * use the thesis_hook_custom_template() hook
          * to specify the contents of div#content_box.
          * Be sure specify which page should receive which code
          * by dividing your action using the is_page() conditional tag.
          *
          * @package Thesis
          */

          whatever_page();


          make the same alterations at above

          Now you need to add some code for rendering the page. Define the whatever_page() function in custom_functions.php, and populate it using code you rip out of these files:

          lib/html/frameworks.php
          lib/html/content_box.php
          lib/html/templates.php
          lib/html/hooks.php

          like this :
          function whatever_page() {

          get_header(apply_filters('thesis_get_header', $name));
          echo '<div id="container">' . "\n";
          echo '<div id="page">' . "\n";
          //thesis_header_area();
          //thesis_content();
          echo ' <div id="content_box" class="no_sidebars">' . "\n";
          thesis_content_column();
          echo ' </div>' . "\n";
          echo '</div>' . "\n";
          echo '</div>' . "\n";
          get_footer(apply_filters('thesis_get_footer', $name));
          }


          ( the above will produce a basically empty page. you will need to spend 30 min if you know what your doing to get a " half way what you want" page )



          solution 1 , without thesis.....5 min tops.



          with thesis , for most, they will fail, and pay someone like myself to do it. other may figure it out in a few days.



          All I want , is someone that has been brainwashed into using thesis, to give me one example of something that thesis does, that WordPress cannot accomplish just as easily.

          Don't say adjust my sidebar widths or body width etc, because that can be easily changed in the "style.css" file


          width: 100px; //make whatever you want. if you add 100 here, take 100 off the body width......
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  • Profile picture of the author Summer1
    Originally Posted by Matthew Shelton View Post

    First of all, I want this to be "plug and play" completely - no worrying why things don't fit when they look like they should, no spending days just trying to change a color or a header. No coding WHATSOEVER.

    Want to be able to change the header at the top of the page, and the color theme, EASILY. Want to be able to set up one and clone it easily for more sites. Want it compatible with wpzonbuilder. Want good responsive support if I need it, but want it so simple that I won't need to contact support at all.

    Ok, that's it - whatcha got?
    Hi Matthew,

    For this header easy uploader, and changing color of the buttons, on navigations, i am using Thesis theme and recommend it too.

    It allows you to try for 30 days, with money back guarantee stuff, and it seems that you look for.

    But the support forum is not "really" responsive to me, not sure to others.

    However Thesis is is an easy theme when it comes to color, and header logo..

    I hope this helps
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    Well, if it's sooo good and easy... why don't you use it yourself in your other thread
    You know how it is, all these guys jumping into offline marketing who have no idea what they are doing when it comes to programing and design. Find an easy to modify theme that they can turn around and sell to local businesses for $500+
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  • Profile picture of the author richporr
    Check out Artisteer. Can make sites for Blogger, WP, or static HTML.

    -Rich
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  • Profile picture of the author KyleLogue
    Once you figure out how to organize widgets, you can customize just about any theme. Themes seem to be already setup to be usable out-of-the-box.
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    Better to spend something to get work done
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Shelton
    Thank you all for your great information and expertise - it feels like I have a much better handle on choices for wordpress now (and had no idea there was so much controversy!)
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