Does anybody use HTML websites anymore?

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I build web sites for offline clients. I use Wordpress and a couple of themes based on client needs. These sites are setup as static web sites. These are not setup as blogs, i.e. no posting, comments, etc.

Wordpress is getting more aggravating by the minute. I know, that is an abusive use of an understatement. But that is not the point of this thread.

I am wondering if anybody who is building web sites for clients uses HTML instead of Wordpress? Ideas and thoughts from active web site builders would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


Joe Mobley
#anymore #html #websites
  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    I still did sometimes, especially for simple landing pages...
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  • Profile picture of the author Quentin
    I use wordpress all the time for my clients as static sites incorporating posts but no comments.

    Don't understand why you would not use posting for them though as this is a great revenue earner and great for positioning as well.

    I do use html for their mobile sites as this allows me to customize them very easily and auto size to any phone.

    I tried all the plugins and none did a good job without compromising my layouts in wordpress.

    So yes but not for customers main site.

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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
      Quentin,

      Good point. I probably left the wrong impression regarding posting. I mean that there is not active and ongoing posting that occurs in a traditional blog setup.

      Thanks for the feedback.

      Joe Mobley

      Originally Posted by Quentin View Post


      Don't understand why you would not use posting for them though as this is a great revenue earner and great for positioning as well.


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  • Profile picture of the author imfusa
    It is easier with wordpress, because on every website that i build i know, that you need a contact page with captcha (anti spam), and you can have it done easier than building from scratch a html website.
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  • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
    I have one - my original site and it's been around for 11 years LOL
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  • Of course I use html. But it is generally 'custom' HTML & php (dynamic pages).

    I find it is a lot more flexible than Wordpress. Wordpress was initially designed to be used for 'new' users. But if you want something really powerful & highly customized, then you'll need to script things yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimba
    Same here. I use html/php and break down the pages.

    I then install CMSfromScratch so the customer can still log in and make changes easily.
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  • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
    Html for me its just easy and Wordpress scares me one day I will go down that road, every one says its easy...
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  • Profile picture of the author Fadzuli
    I guess it depends on what you are going to use it for..

    I still use HTML pages for landing pages and its easier to teach my students using Dreamweaver to create single landing pages.

    Also we still use HTML to designs online Email Newsletters.

    I guess wordpress has its advantages because its easy for the non techys to update them. We just built it once and train them how to use and that's done.
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  • Profile picture of the author carleisenstein
    I don't know anyone who's written a blog from scratch for ages, but most non-publisher sites out there are custom-coded from scratch in PHP or ASPX, or based around an ecommerce CMS that has nothing to do with WordPress. WordPress is very good at what it does, but is sometimes overused in the wrong situations IMHO.
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  • Profile picture of the author ErnieH
    I us html/php -- all I use, besides Wordpress
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  • Profile picture of the author Vijay M
    I have a few plain html sites, some of my oldest, which rank very well too, so I'm not too keen to move them to wordpress.

    But for any new sites, wordpress is stable enough and easy cms, which can be modified enough to manage and scale as the site grows.
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    • Profile picture of the author ksmusselman
      I only recently started using WordPress so I'd have an interactive area attached to my static website.

      But I use html for all of my websites, even those I'm in the process of building for my clients.
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  • Profile picture of the author Palusko
    I use static HTML as well as PHP sites all the time. For clients as well as for myself. Many people feel Wordpress is some catch-all solution, but it is just a piece of technology you have at your disposal. Sometimes it's just an overkill.

    If it's not a blog, sometimes there are better CMS solutions, even third party ones. The post vs page on Wordpress can be sometimes quite confusing for some less tech-savvy customers.

    Plus many clients install wordpress on their hosting, which automatically updates their Wordpress installation, which sometimes causes problems with some plugins.
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    • Profile picture of the author Barbara Eyre
      Unless my client needs a shopping cart or such, I build all sites in HTML/CSS/PHP - handcode.

      The vast majority of my clients do not have the time or the technical know-how to make any changes, no matter how easy (e.g. wordpress post), so I do it in HTML as that is easy for me.

      And the following is just my opinion, but for many of my clients' sites (non-ecommerce), it would be more a headache to install WordPress or other similar scripts that frequently update versions. It can be a headache to make sure all plugins and such function correctly with each WP version upgrade. More hassle than what it is worth in the long run.

      But naturally, there are many instances where a WP blog would be a great foundation to a website, but I do not have those types of clients.
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      • Profile picture of the author Meharis
        I noticed everyone talks about Wordpress, HTML, PHP, etc,
        but, no one mentioned Joomla, Weebly or Wix to build a site for
        newbies. Any particular reason ?
        I'm asking because I've no experience building websites.
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        • Profile picture of the author 365Daysof
          Originally Posted by Meharis View Post

          I noticed everyone talks about Wordpress, HTML, PHP, etc,
          but, no one mentioned Joomla, Weebly or Wix to build a site for
          newbies. Any particular reason ?
          I'm asking because I've no experience building websites.
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          Just as with cooking, everyone is going to have their "favorite" dish when it comes to developing websites.

          Here's what I use:

          HTML/Handcoded PHP, etc.: very basic pages/sites (under 10 pages, usually).

          Pros: Lightweight, fast loading, granular control
          Cons: Not for newbies to manage themselves, even with code commenting. It's way more daunting.

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          WordPress: Excellent for Blogs.

          Pros: VERY easy for most beginners to understand and grasp the basics of updating. A good selection of template options. Good file management built-in.
          Cons: Quality template options are limited, or pricey. Even quality templates need a lot of customizing (from my POV) to make them look truly professional and integrated. Not yet very extensible in "widgets" or plugins (comparing to other CMS).

          --

          Joomla: Excellent for those sites that go beyond blogging to communities, memberships, technical integrations, etc.

          Pros: Thousands of template, component, plugin and module options, many free, nearly all inexpensive. Not too difficult for many people to learn, and admin tasks can be restricted.

          Cons: Can be slow without optimization. More flexibility can mean more confusion about which path to take - experience is a good leader.

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          Drupal: Similar to Joomla

          Pros: Faster framework than Joomla

          Cons: Less extended/supported by the community. Higher entry level for knowledge.

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          All of the CMS have one major flaw, IMO - the widgets/modules/components/add-ons (whatever they are called in each system) do not have standards in design, and so therefore, creating a professional website that LOOKS like all the pieces belong require some knowledge of design/coding to make those added in parts look like they belong.

          *smiles*

          Of course, that is just my opinion.
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      • Profile picture of the author GAVROCHE
        I agree with Barbara about WP.
        For many projects, using WP, are needed many add-ons (based on the project), many are having bugs...

        MEHARIS, for small budgets and beginners, KOMPOZER (an improved NVU) is OK too. It is FREE.
        There are many tutorials, for example
        http://www.charlescooke.me.uk/
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  • Profile picture of the author bobsstuff
    I do everything in HTML and CSS. I know HTML and how to fix pages. I can work fairly effectively with CSS. I am clueless on how to work with wordpress.

    Wordpress is continually" improved" and each improvement plugs another vulnerabliltiy. Every few months there are threads in here about how the newest Wordpress ugrade broke a number of plug-ins.

    I am with what Barbara just said, "More hassle than what it is worth in the long run."
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  • Profile picture of the author crescendo
    Yes, we are still using html
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  • Profile picture of the author Revenant45
    Html,CSS,Javascript/jQuery, Flash AS 3.0, Ajax, some PHP.

    Wordpress IS NOT a universal solution for building websites. Customers who want/need more than a blog or a brochure site with a few sliding banners and links need real programming.
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  • Profile picture of the author Annel
    Yes, I still use it
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  • Profile picture of the author Davy44
    I use HTML/CSS/PHP for all my sites. Wordpress is great for blogs but nothing else in my opinion. Many web designers have latched on to wordpress as a one-size-fits-all kind of tool because it is easy to build. No one wants to do the hard work anymore; we all want it the easy way. That's OK but it's not the best way. Wordpress is great but use it for what it is made for- blogs.
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    • Profile picture of the author Shakakka
      No one wants to do the hard work anymore; we all want it the easy way.
      Not me, I'm with you. I build all my sites from scratch using Html/CSS/php. You can't beat the control you have over your own site, and the dynamic aspect of being able to write your own php code.

      Anyone out there who's serious about moving on from WP and blogspot should go to tizag.com. They have the best free tutorials, and that's where I learned the basics from.
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      • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
        Originally Posted by Shakakka View Post

        Not me, I'm with you. I build all my sites from scratch using Html/CSS/php.
        Shakakka, I really like the layout of the sites in your sig. What software program did you use to create these?

        Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
    As with all the other threads that are on this topic, use the right tool for the job.

    If a client is happy with one or two, maybe even three, different page templates and knows and doesn't mind the constraints of working within a template, and needs the ability to update their own site, then there's nothing wrong with using WordPress. I'd choose it over Dreamweaver/Contribute any day of the week.

    But the current/future needs of the client are paramount. If you know down the road they're going to need the ability to have a blog-type site, or periodically published new content, you're doing them a disfavor by building a raw HTML site then charging them again in the future to upgrade to CMS software.
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    • Profile picture of the author fergsi
      Yeah! Do for vey basic 2 page websites
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  • Profile picture of the author Rovi
    All my sniper sites are custom html/css/php.

    For blogs I will always use Wordpress, and sites where clients will update and maintain I usually use WP.

    I decide by whether the long term goal will be better served by rapid deployment, easy maintenance (WP) or flexibility and light weight, and emphasis on SEO (custom).

    All those WP plugins make sites slow and processor intensive compared to custom HTML/CSS/PHP.

    SEO is better served with custom approach. You hear that Google loves WP. I don't believe it. All my best ranked sites are not WP.
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  • Profile picture of the author hari12345
    i have not used wordpress till now instead of that i choose joomla.......mostly i use HTML/CSS
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    • Profile picture of the author Shelle-K
      I think it really all boils down to need. I use html combined with other languages when it's a good fit. If you plan to get into developing, it's a good idea to learn as many languages as you can get comfortable with. Specializing in one particular is great, but understanding how to edit different languages is almost an essential need.

      I have to agree with many that have said wordpress is not for every situation, although I do use it for any need that it does work best for. For quick pages that don't require frequent updates in my opinion it's kinda pointless.
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  • Profile picture of the author aokiji1
    Yeah! It's the basics for Php
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanRobinson
    A WordPress installation is effectively a HTML website as it is served to the web browser as HTML even if it does use PHP.

    I am surprised none of the PHP programmers who have posted know the differences between server side code and client side...
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    • Profile picture of the author KathyK
      Originally Posted by RyanRobinson View Post

      A WordPress installation is effectively a HTML website as it is served to the web browser as HTML even if it does use PHP.

      I am surprised none of the PHP programmers who have posted know the differences between server side code and client side...
      A lot of people use "HTML" as a shortcut for "not CMS" - gets confusing. Even my non-CMS pages tend to do things like using php includes for footers and headers and etc.
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  • I use HTML only for simple static pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author opiz2012
    HTML is used less, if the content for a long time, inconvenience update.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mattasdan
      I have a HTML site and that works perfect...It's pretty easy to optimization the site.
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryWeaver
    Building websites on html would help you a lot in term of SEO, search engines love this kind of website.
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  • Profile picture of the author sparkman
    Wordpress can do a lot of things, but I hate the way it hides so many things and/or gets in the way of what should be very simple tweaks under the hood.

    If you can do it in HTML, you will find a MUCH larger talent pool to choose from. If you have to have it done in a CMS, your development time and dollars spent will increase.

    I'm just sayin'.
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    i design HTML special website.
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  • Profile picture of the author soliddesign
    We use Refinery, with completely custom designs (no themes bs). It's a Rails-based CMS and it's still very user-friendly. Only jump on the Wordpress bandwagon when a client insists on it (usually for all the wrong reasons).
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  • Profile picture of the author jarnot
    I still build in html/css. It's good to know I'm not the only one. The nagging question for me is what should I be learning next? PHP? Drupal? Both? The need for dynamic sites is clear and customers are becoming more savvy and demanding.

    It seems there are as many solutions as there are people posting on this thread. CMSfromScratch looks interesting, but is it going to be outdated soon? With the advent of CS5, HTML5 and CSS3 I don't want to spend precious time learning a technology that is going to be deprecated.

    What are you going to learn next?
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  • Profile picture of the author oscarte
    I use handcode standards HTML/CSS for everything. If the client wants to make changes to the content himself I use MODx CMS (the best CMS imo). If it is a blog then I use Wordpress.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aruna29
    I did the same thing,But I have a problem.The images wouldn't be properly shown on this form or page.
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  • Profile picture of the author tuanng
    is wordpress made in some special new language we never heard of? I thought the entire web is made up of HTML websites. I think the question need to be rephrased.
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  • Profile picture of the author hireava
    Yes i still using it . It is ery similar to XML syntax, which is increasingly used for data storage free.


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  • Profile picture of the author Jim Hughes
    I use an HTML editor and then drop the content into wordpress. I'll hand code html, css, php and js in wordpress. Once in a blue moon, I'll just use html for a simple one-page site. For anything more than 1 page, I'll use wordpress. I love wordpress
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