Gezzz I hate Wordpress

15 years ago

Well I have noticed this rarly. Well if you want to edit you just Open with option with Notpad or wordpad and edit. After if finished save and then upload that file in the wordpress.

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Jim Hughes

15 years ago

I use notepad++ or Dreamweaver as an editor and then copy/paste into WP.

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haymanpl

15 years ago

Did you know there are at least 3 wordpress plugins that that you can install which will give you a more advanced editor

I had the same problems with the default wordpress editor and switched to Windows Live Writer

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jaycar

15 years ago

I have used wordpress for quite some time and I have never had the issues you are talking about. Not sure why that is. :-(

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websitedesign1

15 years ago

I never face this type of problem.

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ArticlePenguin

15 years ago

I feel ya man, but its definitely better and easier then working without it

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djeby

15 years ago

You can always make your code in a html editor then copy and paste it. It is easier, and you don't face this problem when wordpress auto saves your post.

This is the only way i found to fix this. You can also try disabling the auto-save feature.

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Vanfenix

15 years ago

Wordpress - Something I never touch. Of all the free sites I've built for people - Wordpress will always be for blogging, not html editing.

But as I am a Developer - can you try this for me.

I think you're using IE8, but could be wrong.
If you are, while on the editor page, set compatibility view "on" as explained at the following site and see if that doesn't fix things for you. Introducing Compatibility View - IEBlog - Site Home - MSDN Blogs

Switching to compatibility view typically takes care of it.

And if you want me to convert your WP site to a standard site with an easy to use site builder, by all means, PM me. You're not the first person to be fed up by WP, believe me.

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Also - for ****s and giggles, you think you're frustrated - read this .

Hey guys, Whats up with this stupid html editor that will not stay where you scroll down to. I mean, If I want to work in the html editor there is no full screen like the wysiwyg editor ( which is so stupuid its rediculose) and if you scroll down to a place you need to work, it automatically scrolls right back up to the top ( which causes me to be very friggen agry and punch monitors and kill things). This is so frusterating and useless that I have punched and destroyed 2 monitors because of the friggen aggrevation. I do use notepadd ++ for most of my coding but why cant the stupid built in html editor just friggen work like it should??? You guys can make everyrthing else work good but not that? Is it that hard? do you need me to fix it for you??? I would have thought that the html editor would have been a very important item since people like me and you guys are more apt to work in html than wysiwyg..... So Come on guys, fix it!!!!!!!!!!!! Or give up your jobs for someone whos skilled and unemployed l;ike me. I will happy to replace the guy in charge of this aspect of wordpress! I will even work for less than him!!! And I know I can fix it!

.. Anyways - I'll convert your site over to a real engine if you like. I might even do it free.

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ronc0011

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Vanfenix

Wordpress - Something I never touch. Of all the free sites I've built for people - Wordpress will always be for blogging, not html editing.

But as I am a Developer - can you try this for me.

I think you're using IE8, but could be wrong.
If you are, while on the editor page, set compatibility view "on" as explained at the following site and see if that doesn't fix things for you. Introducing Compatibility View - IEBlog - Site Home - MSDN Blogs

Switching to compatibility view typically takes care of it.

And if you want me to convert your WP site to a standard site with an easy to use site builder, by all means, PM me. You're not the first person to be fed up by WP, believe me.

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Also - for ****s and giggles, you think you're frustrated - read this .

Hey guys, Whats up with this stupid html editor that will not stay where you scroll down to. I mean, If I want to work in the html editor there is no full screen like the wysiwyg editor ( which is so stupuid its rediculose) and if you scroll down to a place you need to work, it automatically scrolls right back up to the top ( which causes me to be very friggen agry and punch monitors and kill things). This is so frusterating and useless that I have punched and destroyed 2 monitors because of the friggen aggrevation. I do use notepadd ++ for most of my coding but why cant the stupid built in html editor just friggen work like it should??? You guys can make everyrthing else work good but not that? Is it that hard? do you need me to fix it for you??? I would have thought that the html editor would have been a very important item since people like me and you guys are more apt to work in html than wysiwyg..... So Come on guys, fix it!!!!!!!!!!!! Or give up your jobs for someone whos skilled and unemployed l;ike me. I will happy to replace the guy in charge of this aspect of wordpress! I will even work for less than him!!! And I know I can fix it!

.. Anyways - I'll convert your site over to a real engine if you like. I might even do it free.

Hey, hey, look at that!!! Compatibility Mode work. Way cool.

Thanks for that little gem of info.

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SteveJohnson

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Vanfenix

Also - for ****s and giggles, you think you're frustrated - read this .

Hey guys, Whats up with this stupid html editor that will not stay where you scroll down to. I mean, If I want to work in the html editor there is no full screen like the wysiwyg editor ( which is so stupuid its rediculose) and if you scroll down to a place you need to work, it automatically scrolls right back up to the top ( which causes me to be very friggen agry and punch monitors and kill things). This is so frusterating and useless that I have punched and destroyed 2 monitors because of the friggen aggrevation. I do use notepadd ++ for most of my coding but why cant the stupid built in html editor just friggen work like it should??? You guys can make everyrthing else work good but not that? Is it that hard? do you need me to fix it for you??? I would have thought that the html editor would have been a very important item since people like me and you guys are more apt to work in html than wysiwyg..... So Come on guys, fix it!!!!!!!!!!!! Or give up your jobs for someone whos skilled and unemployed l;ike me. I will happy to replace the guy in charge of this aspect of wordpress! I will even work for less than him!!! And I know I can fix it!

I can't say that I wonder why this person is jobless...

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Vanfenix 15 years ago

Originally Posted by SteveJohnson

I can't say that I wonder why this person is jobless...

LOL I know - I feel sorry for the bugger - I saw that post and was like - - I sooo gotta share that. :p:p:p
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socialbookmark

15 years ago

You can edit it using free html editor programs like :
CoffeeCup Free HTML Editor
pagebreeze.com Free HTML Editor
Or any other want you like to make editing html pages from wordpress or other scripts easier.

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ronc0011 15 years ago

I always build the code in Microsoft VS and then cut & paste it to WP but then I usually have to make edits like image paths and stuff. Just minor edits and it's such a pain in the butt to cut & paste the entire document back and forth just to make simple changes like that.

I didn't know about the editor plugins for WP. Where can I find them?
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IM Alex 15 years ago

There is a free WP plugin that replaces the default WP text editor called TinyMCE Advanced, I haven't tried editing HTML with it, I use Dreamweaver for that, but maybe you could find it useful, hope it helps
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Istvan Horvath

15 years ago

Edit/add two simple lines in your wp-config.php:
Editing wp-config.php « WordPress Codex

Also, an advice: in your user profile set the editor to HTML as default not the visual. And no, do NOT switch back and forth between html/wysiwyg!

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darlanne 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath

Also, an advice: in your user profile set the editor to HTML as default not the visual. And no, do NOT switch back and forth between html/wysiwyg!

That is very solid advice. Going back and forth can mess things up really quickly. The visual editor is great for those just starting out, but code view (while definitely not perfect) is the most ideal with less room for wonkiness.

That said, I totally see the point of the OP. For all the great functionality of WP, post formatting is still not one of it's strong suits.
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afreshchicago

15 years ago

Does anyone have any links to some examples of a heavily customized wordpress blog? I've yet to get my hands into wordpress merely for the fact that I wasn't sure how limited you can be creatively.

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Istvan Horvath

15 years ago

Originally Posted by afreshchicago

I wasn't sure how limited you can be creatively.

The limit is always the user's knowledge of XHTML+CSS and WP's internal work (template tags, queries, template hierarchy etc.)... which means some at least some basic understanding of PHP.

If you master those 3 - you are good to go.

Most complaints regarding WP come from people who lack knowledge in one or all of the fields above.

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iAmNameLess

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath

The limit is always the user's knowledge of XHTML+CSS and WP's internal work (template tags, queries, template hierarchy etc.)... which means some at least some basic understanding of PHP.

If you master those 3 - you are good to go.

Most complaints regarding WP come from people who lack knowledge in one or all of the fields above.

I absolutely hate wordpress, and I know much more than just the xhtml and css. I just hate how it is out of the box, I don't like the typical look, and I need stuff that has a lot more room to work with. I prefer Joomla, but use drupal regularly as well as magento. I have developed my own CMS using RoR but it is waaaay too buggy, but as a whole I think the user friendliness is better than wordpress, if it weren't for the bugs, LOL.

I've unfortunately had to use wordpress for about 40-50 websites. Crank out a quick website, wordpress is the answer, but something more technical, needs to be on another platform. Sometimes wordpress is great for, others it sucks and you need to go with joomla, some sites will need drupal, maybe magento... it all depends on the goal. I always try to avoid wordpress though.

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Bradley J Anderson

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath

The limit is always the user's knowledge of XHTML+CSS and WP's internal work (template tags, queries, template hierarchy etc.)... which means some at least some basic understanding of PHP.

If you master those 3 - you are good to go.

Most complaints regarding WP come from people who lack knowledge in one or all of the fields above.

Exactly. If you can code, you can do ANYTHING with WP.

And I switched to WP for the same reason as you, ronc0011. I prefer setting my sites up in days, not weeks or months. Why code from the ground up when 75% of it is already done for you in WP? Kind of a no-brainer, imo.

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frankzz

15 years ago

but i love wordpress

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msmir75

15 years ago

Oh geez I thought I was the only one having problems with WP!

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cssitkt 15 years ago

I love Wordpress and as soon as I decided to create all content using HTML it was much easier. Try and get used to working with just the HTML editor - of course you need to know a little HTML which is very easy. As someone mentioned above you can disable the visual editor - admittedly it can behave a little strange at times.
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Sweely99

15 years ago

I've never stumbled upon that problem anytime before to be honest.

But if I were you I'd totally try some HTML editors out such as Notepad++.

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ronc0011

15 years ago

It would seem some folks don't actually read the whole thread. Just to reiterate. I build all my code in Visual Studio (that's an HTML editor) I work pretty much exclusively in code view. I have been using VS and hand coding for a number of years. I only recently started using Wordpress because of some of its other features primarily that Google seems to be in love with it. I think that's because a lot of the SEO stuff is more or less taken care of with WP just sort of incidentally in the process of setting up a site. Also I found that I was spending way too much time building and tweaking a site from scratch. WP is after all a website in a box and in fact a website with a high degree of functionality that would otherwise take a lot of hours to code by hand.

Bottom line I wanted to focus my time on getting sites up and making money and not on hand coding websites. Don't get me wrong, I like building websites but I would rather make money.

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Jake Gray

15 years ago

Originally Posted by ronc0011

It would seem some folks don't actually read the whole thread. Just to reiterate. I build all my code in Visual Studio (that's an HTML editor) I work pretty much exclusively in code view. I have been using VS and hand coding for a number of years. I only recently started using Wordpress because of some of its other features primarily that Google seems to be in love with it. I think that's because a lot of the SEO stuff is more or less taken care of with WP just sort of incidentally in the process of setting up a site. Also I found that I was spending way too much time building and tweaking a site from scratch. WP is after all a website in a box and in fact a website with a high degree of functionality that would otherwise take a lot of hours to code by hand.

Bottom line I wanted to focus my time on getting sites up and making money and not on hand coding websites. Don't get me wrong, I like building websites but I would rather make money.

Time is money. I totally see where you are coming from.

Jake

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Scoop

15 years ago

I open up a window on the server (using Linux) and edit theme files directly in a color-coded text editor called gedit that is perfect for quick and easy HTML/PHP. It is like editing them on your own PC but without the need to keep uploading files and makes the whole task much faster.

In Windows I would probably opt to edit in Notepad and FTP the files to the server. A lot of edits are very minor and I believe in keeping it simple wherever possible.

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Harry Spencer

15 years ago

The only issue I've had is sometimes when switching tabs it might not save but I too now used notepad++ to edit the code then copy and paste in. Any other HTML editor should help.

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NovaPublications

15 years ago

Lots of posts here with good ideas. We use Wordpress and we also find that trying to reorganise the HTML is a nightmare. Strange that Wordpress seems to be one of those programmes that you either love or hate! No in betweens! We use notepad and Dreamweaver and also Blogger. Love Blogger because it is just so quick and easy to put a site up whether a blog or static selling site. WP do not make it easy or free for affiliate links! Blogger is good with their HTML also and we have altered quite a few sites with this programme. Try it, it's free, it's simple and it's Google

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Linda_C

15 years ago

Originally Posted by ronc0011

#@*& I hate working with Wordpress. Trying to edit anything in the "HTML" view is a genuine nightmare. It won't stay still. Every couple of seconds it refreshes and goes to the top of the document. This makes trying to edit anything a horrific pain in the #&*.

You'd think someone with the Wp team would have addressed this by now.

Sorry, just venting.

Are you using Internet Explorer? The jumping/refreshing you're referring to most commonly happens to people using IE8. Use Firefox to edit your WP. No jumping.

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annegirl

14 years ago

I know what the problem is. As an experience and advanced word-press user i have noticed that when you write on the (HTML) view of word-press and switch back to the visual view you get some format that you do not like and when you return back to html view it picks the default visual view setting.

Best way to solve it, at least best way i did solved it was to write everything including images and link in HTML view and save, then when i go to the front end i comes out in my desired setting. Mistake many make is to write in HTML view and switch to visual - This sometimes does not provide desirable result. If you are having this problem just as i did; write everything in HTML view, save it and you will see a desirable result in the front end.
Hope this helps!

Anastacia

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MaxxC

14 years ago

Originally Posted by annegirl

I know what the problem is. As an experience and advanced word-press user i have noticed that when you write on the (HTML) view of word-press and switch back to the visual view you get some format that you do not like and when you return back to html view it picks the default visual view setting.

Best way to solve it, at least best way i did solved it was to write everything including images and link in HTML view and save, then when i go to the front end i comes out in my desired setting. Mistake many make is to write in HTML view and switch to visual - This sometimes does not provide desirable result. If you are having this problem just as i did; write everything in HTML view, save it and you will see a desirable result in the front end.
Hope this helps!

Anastacia

Virtual confirmation of Istvan's recommendation and advice at post #13, which are both very sound, BTW.

Wordpress is the shortcut to website creation. WP can be modified / configured to fit multiple website criteria.
The SEO readiness of Wordpress sites is an extra benefit too, IMO.