Should I Switch To Wordpress?

15 years ago

If I were you, I'd move. Google loves WordPress. Also it's a very extendable and customizing CMS. The only thing you have to do is to set your permalinks in a proper way to keep the original site structure as much as possible. Search engines don't like dead pages.

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Mildred Williams 15 years ago

You are right! search engines don't like dead pages. Just keep the original structure by using the permalinks.

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Angela Neo

15 years ago

How do I keep the site structure the same? I mean, currently the pages are indexed as xxx/yyy.html. If I change over to WP, it'll be xxx/yyyy , without the html extension. Wouldn't this affect my page ranking?

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CyberSEO

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Angela Neo

How do I keep the site structure the same? I mean, currently the pages are indexed as xxx/yyy.html. If I change over to WP, it'll be xxx/yyyy , without the html extension.

Who told you that nonsense???

Go to "Permalink Settings".
Choose "Custom Structure" and put the following line there:
/%postname%.html
Click "Save Changes".

Originally Posted by Angela Neo

Wouldn't this affect my page ranking?

Only in case if you won't follow my advice regarding the site structure.

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webcare

15 years ago

Totally, unreservedly, without hesitation - yes! Do it now! Wordpress is such a brilliant platform - with so many plugins - it is as future proof as a website can ever be (which is not very, but it is a whole lot better than the alternative!).

In addition to CyberSEOs strategy, you can also use 301 redirects for any page to protect the rankings.

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CyberSEO 15 years ago

Originally Posted by webcare

In addition to CyberSEOs strategy, you can also use 301 redirects for any page to protect the rankings.

Thanks for this important addition. Sometimes it's really impossible to keep the same URL for some pages and in this case "Moved Permanently" redirect is a best solution.
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abubakar89

15 years ago

Go ahead ...... you will see improvement in rankings I believe

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Marian 15 years ago

Before I knew WP I thought no way - my sitest built with Dreamweaver are the best.. now I say WP is the best.

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blueeyedboy

15 years ago

What CyberSEO said is absolutely correct. You can confidently go with WordPress.

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bcwebwise12 15 years ago

My suggestion is to switch on to wordpress as it is very user friendly. and you redirect your old url to new one.
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- Alan Ashwood 15 years ago
  
  Maybe I'm being naiive but -
  
  If you already have an established 'proper' website that is ranked, why not add a link to a connected WP blog. This way you can retain control over both. You can feed the blog with ever changing content, and advertise your site with the blog.
  
  Likewise you canlink to your blog from the website.
  
  I'd be intereseted to see some professional opinions on this. All my sites are using WordPress, but that's where I started and it's easier for me, as I'm a klutz at web design.
  
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  talalihin 15 years ago
  
  sorry to interfere but I have a similar problem. I'm going to use WP instead of joomla 1.12. The problem is that my site hase some juicy backlinks that I don't want to loose.
  My question is: if I just name the pages in WP as they are already named in joomla whould the backlink weight transfer to these pages?
  Sorry for my English - I'm not a native speaker.
  
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  Lyanna 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Alan Ashwood
  
  If you already have an established 'proper' website that is ranked, why not add a link to a connected WP blog.
  
  That's exactly what I did with my old websites. You know there was a time, not too long ago when there was no such thing as wordpress, right?
  
  If you have a good website dating from that far back and it's doing okay, just put a new folder in your domain and link it from the home page:
  
  yourdomain dot com /blog
  
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  VinceReed 15 years ago
  
  I agree, If you already have a website that has over a year of seasoning..it may actually hurt you to switch. A better solution would be to create a WordPress website and build it by linking to your old site and make it the blogging portion of you current site.
  
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UMS

15 years ago

If you are confident with using XsitePro and have good on-page SEO, there's no real compelling reason to move over to WordPress.

WordPress isn't going to automatically give you better rankings. It all depends on what on-page SEO factors you use.

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VilPietersen@

15 years ago

Ye I would definately switch to WordPress. Aside from the additional functionality of the various plugins and applications available, adding and maintaining your content will be a lot easier to do.

That's not to say that it will improve anything in terms of getting better rank, but it will allow you more time to get a better rank if you know what I mean.

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Jerome15

15 years ago

this is i recently did with my site. i was using rvsite builder for about a year then switched to WP because first of all WP is more convenient to use especially if you are regularly updating your site. My ranking stayed the same.

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Frank Donovan

15 years ago

Hi Angela,

There's some strange advice in this thread, IMO.

For a start, Google doesn't love WordPress - the platform you use for your site, in itself, has no bearing on your search engine rankings.

It's certainly possible to create authority sites using HTML. Indeed, I've been using XSitePro for many years and have several established and well-ranked sites on that platform.

If you specifically wanted a blogging platform for your site, then by all means, use WordPress or any other dedicated blogging software. But if you're happy with the flexibility of your current set-up and you're updating your site with new content on a regular basis, there's no compelling reason to change.

You're not going to see an immediate boost to your rankings simply by migrating to WordPress.

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CyberSEO 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

For a start, Google doesn't love WordPress - the platform you use for your site, in itself, has no bearing on your search engine rankings.

That's a very wrong statement. Google has an internal rating system for various CMS. And that's not a secret actually.

"WordPress takes care of 80-90% of (the mechanics of) Search Engine Optimization (SEO)" ~ Matt Cutts, WordCamp in San Francisco, May, 2009.
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robdavids

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

Hi Angela,

There's some strange advice in this thread, IMO.

For a start, Google doesn't love WordPress - the platform you use for your site, in itself, has no bearing on your search engine rankings.

It's certainly possible to create authority sites using HTML. Indeed, I've been using XSitePro for many years and have several established and well-ranked sites on that platform.

If you specifically wanted a blogging platform for your site, then by all means, use WordPress or any other dedicated blogging software. But if you're happy with the flexibility of your current set-up and you're updating your site with new content on a regular basis, there's no compelling reason to change.

You're not going to see an immediate boost to your rankings simply by migrating to WordPress.

Frank

I completely agree with you Frank! No compelling reason to change over to wordpress if you are comfortable with the current platform.

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Alan Ashwood

15 years ago

Originally Posted by onlinejoans

Go ahead, but I think wordpress is difficult to SEO.

What? Really? Why did you post that nonsense? Could it be to build yur post count?

Absolute rubbish.

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thehermitvi

15 years ago

I would definitely add WordPress but like was stated by Alan Ashwood there is no reason to take down your current site, leave it up. You don't let Google find 401 pages on your site. Just do this.

Install WordPress in a folder on your site, like news or blog.
Match the theme as much as possible to your current site.
Put a link to your blog in the navigation on your current site.
Start posting articles on the topic of your site.
Use your keywords in the post titles and content.
Wait a couple of days and check your rankings.
Because your site is already indexed the blog should be found quickly by Google and the pages indexed.

This way you can keep all the good things about your current site and still easily work on improving some of the not so good results.

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TheZafraGroup

15 years ago

You should definitely switch to WordPress. It's the best platform out there that you can use and it's very customizable. It's also loved by Google and other search engines. It's also really easy to start up your own wordpress blog nowadays because of tons of resources all around us. I've been using WordPress for almost 3 months now. Since getting on, I've seen my #'s increase drastically. From leads, sales and many more. You should definitely switch to WordPress.

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Istvan Horvath

15 years ago

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Google loves WordPress.

Originally Posted by TheZafraGroup

It's also loved by Google and other search engines.

Can you, guys, stop spreading this rubbish, nonsense urban myth?

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CyberSEO

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath

Can you, guys, stop spreading this rubbish, nonsense urban myth?

"Rubbish" you say? Even after the Matt Cutts quote above?

Ok here is a couple of another ones:

"WordPress is a fantastic choice for SEO" ~ Matt Cutts

"Learn, learn and learn!" ~ Vladimir Lenin

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SteveJohnson

15 years ago

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

"Rubbish" you say? Even after the Matt Cutts quote above?

Yes, "rubbish".

There are some WordPress themes that take care of 80% - 90% of SEO. The only thing WP itself does that helps is pinging posts.

A number of plugins can help with SEO tasks - sitemap builders, SEO optimizing plugins - but these plugins do nothing that can't be done manually if needed.

WordPress is not the rainbow that leads to the pot of gold.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by SteveJohnson

Yes, "rubbish".

There are some WordPress themes that take care of 80% - 90% of SEO. The only thing WP itself does that helps is pinging posts.

A number of plugins can help with SEO tasks - sitemap builders, SEO optimizing plugins - but these plugins do nothing that can't be done manually if needed.

WordPress is not the rainbow that leads to the pot of gold.

It looks like you just called Matt Cutts a tattler

Actually there are many wrong points in your statement. It's too long to explain then one by one especially because everything was already explained, tested and compared 1000 + 1 times on the Internet. Why should I do it again here? If you consider that Google has no its own CMS rating system, it's not a my problem. I'm for the freedom of personal opinions

BTW, I never said that WordPress itself is a "rainbow"or something like that. I just said that Google loves that CMS and that's truth - you believe it, or not

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Dan C. Rinnert 15 years ago

I have moved sites from HTML and/or PHP to WordPress. I have also moved sites from WordPress to HTML and/or PHP.

From my experience, such a move makes no measurable difference in rankings.

None.

WordPress is not a magic button. Google doesn't look at a site and say, "Wow! This site is using WordPress. It MUST be better than other sites that are not using WordPress." That would be idiotic. It makes no logical sense whatsoever. None. Nada. Zippo. Zilch. The CMS being used is not a measure of quality, and Google would be stupid to factor the CMS into their algorithms.

It may be true that WordPress may have features (whether built-in, through plug-ins or themes) that make SEO easier, that doesn't mean that WordPress will automatically outrank a site built some other way. You can optimize other types of sites for SEO too.

In fact, except for sites I want to sell (because so many buyers buy into the urban myth that WordPress is somehow better), I have been removing WordPress from my sites and switching to PHP or my own CMS.
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15 years ago

Originally Posted by talalihin

sorry to interfere but I have a similar problem. I'm going to use WP instead of joomla 1.12. The problem is that my site hase some juicy backlinks that I don't want to loose.
My question is: if I just name the pages in WP as they are already named in joomla whould the backlink weight transfer to these pages?
Sorry for my English - I'm not a native speaker.

As long as the url does not change, the backlink weight should be preserved. A backlink is a vote for the page, not the platform.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

That's a very wrong statement. Google has an internal rating system for various CMS. And that's not a secret actually.

"WordPress takes care of 80-90% of (the mechanics of) Search Engine Optimization (SEO)" ~ Matt Cutts, WordCamp in San Francisco, May, 2009.

How does 'WP takes care of the mechanics' equal 'Google loves Wordpress'?

You can take care of those same mechanics using a variety of platforms, including plain html generated via Notepad.

At least you might have tipped us off on how this "Google loves Wordpress" nonsense got started.

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CyberSEO 15 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

How does 'WP takes care of the mechanics' equal 'Google loves Wordpress'?

Can you read between the lines, no? Do you real expect to hear something like "Yes guys, I'm gonna to assure you: Google rates WP higher than <...> (put any other CMS name here)" directly from... Matt Cutts?

You are just joking, right?

P.S. Will it really change the things if I say that Matt Cutts loves WordPress?
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- SteveJohnson 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by CyberSEO
  
  Can you read between the lines, no?
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  You are just joking, right?
  
  Read between this line...
  
  and this one.
  
  Hidden 'between the lines' is exactly the same text that is hidden in Matt Cutts' statement. The nice thing about it is that it can say whatever you want it to say, so knock yerself out.
  
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  Originally Posted by SteveJohnson
  
  The nice thing about it is that it can say whatever you want it to say, so knock yerself out.
  
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- Frank Donovan 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by johndefoe
  
  I think you can't go wrong with wordpress. It's the platform most used I think by sites ranking high on google.
  
  And, by some strange coincidence, it's also the platform most used by sites ranking low in Google. :rolleyes:
  
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Istvan Horvath

15 years ago

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

"Rubbish" you say? Even after the Matt Cutts quote above?

Ok here is a couple of another ones:

"WordPress is a fantastic choice for SEO" ~ Matt Cutts

"Learn, learn and learn!" ~ Vladimir Lenin

Regardless what that Ulyanov guy said... the Matt Cutts quote doesn't say G loves WP.

What is says: 80-90% of the gimmicks sold by so-called SEO-experts to WP users are not needed

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UMS

15 years ago

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

"Rubbish" you say? Even after the Matt Cutts quote above?

Ok here is a couple of another ones:

"WordPress is a fantastic choice for SEO" ~ Matt Cutts

"Learn, learn and learn!" ~ Vladimir Lenin

OK, you've stated that English is not your first language, so I can understand how you might misinterpret Matt's statements.

What Matt Cutts is saying is that WordPress helps people with on-page SEO. Obviously it depends on the type of theme, plugins and settings you are using, but it's harder to set up bad SEO with WordPress compared to writing HTML from scratch (if you don't have much knowledge of SEO)

WordPress is NOT a magic bullet and Google/Cutts have NOT stated that Google gives some magical preference to WordPress sites.

In the end, whether you use WordPress, Drupal, XsitePro, Notepad, if you have good on-page SEO, then there is no difference between what authoring method you use (from an SEO perspective)

Simple as that.

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CyberSEO

15 years ago

Originally Posted by UMS

OK, you've stated that English is not your first language, so I can understand how you might misinterpret Matt's statements.

Thank you so much for this explanation. It's genius! I really don't even understand how I was made my living with SEO during all past 10 years without it

Sir, I don't want to look arrogant but I'm making 6 digit profit every year on WP autoblogs only during almost six years in a raw. I believe you are very skilled and wise man, but please don't destroy with your single post everything I was believed to all this time.

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Rob Howard

15 years ago

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Thank you so much for this explanation. It's genius! I really don't even understand how I was made my living by SEO during all past 10 years without it.

Just because you've made a living with SEO for 10 years doesn't mean squat as to WHY you've made a living.

Put simply - you can do all the right things for the wrong reasons and still make money.

Getting ranked in Google doesn't require you to know or understand what Google thinks...in your example - "Wordpress is loved by Google".

Yes. Wordpress is Loved By Google - But not for the reason you think it is.

Wordpress is just a platform. Wordpress makes SEO easier for a lot of people due to it's plugins, themes, etc.

But wordpress is just a tool. If you fill your wordpress blog with a ton of garbage - well, best of luck ranking.

So, my question to you -

Do you have any statistical data which backs up your theory that Wordpress is loved by Google?

And saying "Every site I've built with Wordpress Ranks" doesn't cut it.

You need to do real, split testing of this theory, across multiple sites and niches. The more sites and niches, the better.

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CyberSEO

15 years ago

Originally Posted by ccmusicman

Yes. Wordpress is Loved By Google - But not for the reason you think it is.

I never stated the reason, actually, and I never will...

Originally Posted by ccmusicman

So, my question to you -

Do you have any statistical data which backs up your theory that Wordpress is loved by Google?

Yes of course I have. I have transferred 100's of static sites to WP and I got a huge SE traffic increase there during just a few months (usually 1-3 months only, and 6 months a max). Believe me - I know what I'm talking about.

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Rob Howard 15 years ago

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I never stated the reason, actually, and I never will...

You stated that Google loves wordpress. I state that Google doesn't love wordpress at all.

And I don't think anyone here really gives a sh** what you believe.

The fact remains, unless you have statistically significant data to back up the claim that switching over from standard HTML to Wordpress will come with a boost in rankings - you're just talking out your a$$.

I'm personally sick of such wild theories thrown around as fact.

If people want to use Wordpress - fine. But don't tell them to do something based on some crazy myth.

Wordpress has a lot of benefits - but one of them is not natural SE rankings.

As I said - it's a tool. That's it. Just like any other tool - html, php, backlinking software, autoresponders - they can all be used for success or not.

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Rob Howard

15 years ago

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Yes of course I have. I have transferred 100's of static sites to WP and I got a huge SE traffic increase there during just a few months (usually 1-3 months only). Believe me - I know what I'm talking about.

Sorry. That's not a split test.

A real split is having multiple sites in the same niche, with similar SEO work done to them, the ONLY difference is the platform.

It's called having a control.

Those blogs that you have moved over and saw rankings, what else did you do?

Did you install any plugins that helped with on page SEO? Did you do additional pinging with them? Add more content?

See - any one of those factors can contribute to a rise in rankings.

Finally, where is the proof? I can easily say "I got instant rankings by transferring over 100 blogs to drupal sites" doesn't make it true.

Rob

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CyberSEO

15 years ago

Originally Posted by ccmusicman

Those blogs that you have moved over and saw rankings, what else did you do?

Nothing.

Originally Posted by ccmusicman

Did you install any plugins that helped with on page SEO? Did you do additional pinging with them? Add more content?

I don't use any 3rd-party plugins besides Google Sitemap, WP Super Cache and DB Buckup. All "SEO" plugins like "All in One SEO Pack" make my blogs slower (because they are run-time ones). Furthermore, everything those plugins do can (and MUST be done) via robots.txt and manual WP theme customization.

As about the additional content - my answer - is yes, it was automatically added by my own autoblogging plugin - I'm a fan of "fire and forget" traffic generation methods.

Originally Posted by UMS

Your conclusion would only be valid if you replicated everything from the static sites into WordPress, e.g.: same on-page SEO, same site structure etc.?

I always replicated the original site structure via permalinks. Everything what can't be replicated was done via 301 redirect. I thought it's obvious.

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Rob Howard

15 years ago

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Nothing.

As about the additional content - my answer - is yes, it was automatically added by my own autoblogging plugin - I'm a fan of "fire and forget" traffic generation methods.

Then you did do something. You added content. And I'm assuming backlinking. Over several months (by your own admission).

So that proves absolutely nothing - you could have done the exact same thing on a static site and saw rank increases.

Rob

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CyberSEO 15 years ago

Originally Posted by ccmusicman

Then you did do something. You added content. And I'm assuming backlinking.

Atumatically generated content - yes. Backlinking - no (I'm used to cross-link my resources withing my own networks).

Originally Posted by ccmusicman

So that proves absolutely nothing - you could have done the exact same thing on a static site and saw rank increases.

Nope, I can't. My static sites were also updated with the new constantly using RSS parsing scripts. They just don't grow (I mean the number of indexed pages was remaining the same).
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UMS

15 years ago

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Yes of course I have. I have transferred 100's of static sites to WP and I got a huge SE traffic increase there during just a few months (usually 1-3 months only, and 6 months a max). Believe me - I know what I'm talking about.

Your conclusion would only be valid if you replicated everything from the static sites into WordPress, eg: same on-page SEO, same site structure etc.

Is that what you did, or did you modify/add things when you moved them to WordPress?

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UMS

15 years ago

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Thank you so much for this explanation. It's genius! I really don't even understand how I was made my living with SEO during all past 10 years without it

Again, you misunderstood what was said. I never at any point said you didn't know anything about SEO or ranking your sites.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Sir, I don't want to look arrogant but I'm making 6 digit profit every year on WP autoblogs only during almost six years in a raw. I believe you are very skilled and wise man, but please don't destroy with your single post everything I was believed to all this time.

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Don't care if you are making 6 figures or absolutely nothing, it's totally irrelevant to the argument.

FYI, almost all of my sites are using WP. I think it's a great CMS, and it can be very useful for SEO, but I don't kid myself that WordPress automatically gives my sites a boost in rankings.

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Steven Miranda

15 years ago

Wordpress is wonderful in 99% of cases. You can make Wordpress look nothing like a blog. I run a store and they have so many options... shopping carts.. any plugin you can imagine. Things are a lot different in the days before Wordpress.

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Viramara

15 years ago

Wordpress has a lot of SEO friendly plugins you can install for free. I have a 3 years old blog in Wordpress, not updated for 3 months but still getting 500+ organic visits a day

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SteveJohnson

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Angela Neo

I've got a site that is pretty established. It was built using Xsitepro (html). There are some inner pages indexed and ranked on Google as well. I'm thinking to build out the site and make it bigger... I'm not sure if it will help better in ranking if I change to wordpress? But I've already got pages indexed so if I change to WP then it will probably affect the site/rankings.

What do you think? Anyone using Xsitepro have experience with building authority sites with it? Any success?

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Here's your definitive answer: if you have no compelling reason to change, then don't. The supposed love affair that the SEs have with WP simply does not exist, so that in itself is no reason to go to the trouble of moving your site to WP. Moving a site to WP is not the simplest thing to do, and it's easy and possible to make mistakes that will hurt your current page rankings.

WordPress is not a magic bullet. The reasons that WP sites tend to do well (at least at first) in SE rankings are many - the standard themes are set up in an SEO-friendly way (page structure and tag usage, etc.) and some of the underlying characteristics of WP help, such as pinging new posts.

Don't get sucked in by the myth that your site's pages will automatically skyrocket to the top of the SERPs solely on the virtue of the WordPress framework. And if that's your only reason for changing, save yourself the time and headache and don't.

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JROC777 15 years ago

I did switch to wordpress about 4 months ago and like using the platform. I was no pro at dreamweaver anyway so I do like that I can create websites much faster and so far am happy with the rankings. The plugins have been a great help and anything that I get stuck on I can locate the answers easily.

I put my sites in the root so the url is clean but thats just me and I really dont know what is the better way. You will need to decide this if you make the move

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15 years ago

I think you can't go wrong with wordpress. It's the platform most used I think by sites ranking high on google.

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15 years ago

All my sites use WP because the CMS is extremely easy to use.

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SteveJohnson

15 years ago

So for my 1,499th post, one before the magic 1,500 where I turn into a magic genie or something, I would like to offer a question:

Will the advent of my 1,500th post bring the wisdom that I obviously lack to keep from getting sucked into these kinds of discussions? I mean, arguing with a rock is more productive.

<sigh>

One can only hope.

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Istvan Horvath

15 years ago

Originally Posted by SteveJohnson

Will the advent of my 1,500th post bring the wisdom that I obviously lack to keep from getting sucked into these kinds of discussions? I mean, arguing with a rock is more productive.

Nope. It won't...
Look at John, Dan and myself (4K, 5K, 6K...) - and we all got sucked into it

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Originally Posted by SteveJohnson

I mean, arguing with a rock is more productive.

Ooh. Great idea. I could glue googly eyes on rocks and sell them as Argument Rocks. How many would you like to pre-order?
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  Ooh. Great idea. I could glue googly eyes on rocks and sell them as Argument Rocks. How many would you like to pre-order?
  
  2 - I'll put one on each side of the pet rock I still have from the 70s. Or 80s. Whenever it was that rocks were pets
  
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David McKee

15 years ago

Switching to Wordpress depends entirely on what you want to do going forward. Are you an avid Php and Html developer? Do you have a grasp of CSS? You don;t need these things to use Wordpress, but if you do know them, you can make wordpress do anything you want.

I don't build on anything else anymore simply because I am so comfortable with all aspects of the wordpress platform. Yes, as a framework it leans toward the "Blog" format, however it can be used to build any kind of site. At 11:21am today (11/4/2011) there were 16,502 plugins that can be used to extend the platform in thousands of ways. I am always tweaking and rewriting parts of the Php in themes or in "The Loop" and have extensive additions to the XMLRPC interface (allows you to have programs that feed posts and can essentially control the whole site remotely by other programs).

There are several other platforms like Wordpress - Drupal, Joomla, etc - all are considered "Content Management Systems" and a fairly complete list is here.

Check them out see if they can do what you want. You may decide to stick with what you got now. And you can certainly just add wordpress, keep what you got, and slowly replace pages using redirects so as to keep your SEO.

Hope that helps.

-DTM

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Daniel Evans 15 years ago

NEVER underestimate the statments which claim "Google loves WP"!

WP had been around for quite a while before I jumped on board and began to implement it and my traffic was the fastest I've even seen.

My blog surpassed the figures of my main website within only a few months.
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D.lee

15 years ago

Wordpress is a great platform, I only use WP its quick and easy to post content.
and with all the plugins you can make it look like anyother site. But if you have a good site with pages with good rank I would be careful changes over to WP because if your not good with php or html you may not be able to go into the code and fix things as you like.
IMO I would just add a wordpress blog to my site and add some good content to it.

Google does like WP but Google likes all sites that is seo in the right way, its just that WP does a lot of the SEO work for you but in the end CONTENT IS KING if you have it google will love you and not just because you are using WordPress!!

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15 years ago

You should, wordpress is simple great.

It's simple for use, there are a lot of great plug-ins, everything you need.

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JohnMcCabe

15 years ago

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Can you read between the lines, no? Do you real expect to hear something like "Yes guys, I'm gonna to assure you: Google rates WP higher than <...> (put any other CMS name here)" directly from... Matt Cutts?

You are just joking, right?

P.S. Will it really change the things if I say that Matt Cutts loves WordPress?

I find it hard to believe that, if Google actually used CMS as a rating factor, that it would favor one that makes it so much easier and faster to create the flogs and splogs leading to clogs in the search results.

PS - Matt Cutts loves WordPress? Was that hidden between the lines too?

I take everything Cutts says with the same degree of seriousness I take anything said by a politico's front man. Every word Cutts is allowed to utter in public is carefully scripted for him. It's the company line with nothing to read between.

And no, I'm not joking...

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CyberSEO

15 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

PS - Matt Cutts loves WordPress? Was that hidden between the lines too?

"Hidden"? )) Sorry, English is not my mother language, so I really have no idea on how to interpret the following his statement: "WordPress is a fantastic choice for SEO", especially taking into account the fact that he runs his personal blog on WordPress since 2005. If it's not love, there must be some other English word for that ))

2Istvan Horvath: Mr. Ulyanov was right, but you will never agree, right?

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Istvan Horvath 15 years ago

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

2Istvan Horvath: Mr. Ulyanov was right, but you will never agree, right?

It's hard to be in agreement with mass murderers... да!
(although we shouldn't start political discussion about it because the mods will delete the thread!)
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15 years ago

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

"Hidden"? )) Sorry, English is not my mother language, so I really have no idea on how to interpret the following his statement: "WordPress is a fantastic choice for SEO", especially taking into account the fact that he runs his personal blog on WordPress since 2005. If it's not love, there must be some other English word for that ))

So your belief that wordpress is better for SEO is tied to the fact that Matt Cutts runs his blog off of it? Are you really silly enough to believe that Matt Cutts is trying to optimize his SEO rankings and that's the reason he uses WordPress?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

So your belief that wordpress is better for SEO is tied to the fact that Matt Cutts runs his blog off of it?

I believe that the head of Google's Webspam team publicly stated: "WordPress is a fantastic choice for SEO". This is more than enough actually

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guitarjosh

15 years ago

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I believe that the head of Google's Webspam team publicly stated: "WordPress is a fantastic choice for SEO". This is more than enough actually

You're confusing fact and fiction. Nobody here is debating that wordpress is not a fantastic choice for SEO. It is. What we're explaining to you is that an html or php site that is setup right is equally a fantastic choice. All that quote is saying is when you add a title to a page, wordpress is smart enough to make it an H1 title tag for you. But.. if you like to do your own site, you too.. can make your title tag h1. When you create your page.. it's smart enough to make the title the url... good seo.

From a programming perspective, your claim is just silly. You do understand that a wordpress cms is built on php/mysql, right?

In any case, I know you mean well but it's clear you don't have a good understanding of many aspects of website technology. Lucky for you though. you don't need to have a good understanding of that to do well with SEO.

It's just a matter of doing it the right way.. with whatever platform you choose.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

You're confusing fact and fiction. Nobody here is debating that wordpress is not a fantastic choice for SEO. It is. What we're explaining to you is that an html or php site that is setup right is equally a fantastic choice. All that quote is saying is when you add a title to a page, wordpress is smart enough to make it an H1 title tag for you. But.. if you like to do your own site, you too.. can make your title tag h1. When you create your page.. it's smart enough to make the title the url... good seo.

From a programming perspective, your claim is just silly. You do understand that a wordpress cms is built on php/mysql, right?

In any case, I know you mean well but it's clear you don't have a good understanding of many aspects of website technology. Lucky for you though. you don't need to have a good understanding of that to do well with SEO.

It's just a matter of doing it the right way.. with whatever platform you choose.

I'm said that I don't want to share my WP SEO tricks here (the ones I make money from), but I'll show you a few very simple and well-known examples.

Google knows what WP is and it knows that it's supposed to be used for creating of contently-updated sites with unique content (I said supposed to, thus see point 4)
Google knows well the WP blog structure and can easily walk through all its content without XML sitemaps and even without internal links. The internal linking is a strong side of WP, but however... Google knows how to crawl ALL the articles on WP site w/o any links.
All WP sites have the same internal structure which is very good optimized and is more than clear for Google. I mean - all WP sites can be easily crawled using the same algorithm, regardless of your permalink structure etc.
Everyone knows about splogs (autoblogs). Google knows about them too. 99% of autoblogging scripts leave their fingerprints and Google knows how to catch them (the easiest way is to simple check the GUID's of blog posts via its own RSS feed).

There are many other points why Google loves to deal with WP blogs instead of other sites with not-so-clear structure, but I don't want to discuss them here. Those 4 points listed above are more than enough to get a clue. IMHO.

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guitarjosh

15 years ago

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I'm said that I don't want to share my WP SEO tricks here (the ones I make money from), but I'll show you a few very simple and well-known examples.

Google knows what WP is and it knows that it's supposed to be used for creating of contently-updated sites with unique content (I said supposed to, thus see point 4)
Google knows well the WP blog structure and can easily walk through all its content without XML sitemaps and even without internal links. The internal linking is a strong side of WP, but however... Google knows how to crawl ALL the articles on WP site w/o any links.
All WP sites have the same internal structure which is very good optimized and is more than clear for Google. I mean - all WP sites can be easily crawled using the same algorithm, regardless of your permalink structure etc.
Everyone knows about splogs (autoblogs). Google knows about them too. 99% of autoblogging scripts leave their fingerprints and Google knows how to catch them (the easiest way is to simple check the GUID's of blog posts via its own RSS feed).

There are many other points why Google loves to deal with WP blogs instead of other sites with not-so-clear structure, but I don't want to discuss them here. Those 4 points listed above are more than enough to get a clue. IMHO.

wow... with every post, you show yourself a bit more clueless. based on this post, i'm convinced you lie about a lot of things.. including making any money online. you seem way to unlearned about how the online world works.

i make all my money with autoblogs.. and i make thousands every month.. so you're lying to the wrong guy. 1) guids exist in a lot of rss feeds such as amazon, but the majority do not have them. right click your rss feed, view source and take a look and you will know if they do or not. (now how in the world would you have insight into googles algorithm to even possibly think they care about the rss guid?) 2) even a lowly skilled programmer could regex the guid out of any feed. 3) I use no sitemap of any kind of my pure php sites and I launch sites that have thousands of pages (sometimes 20,000) indexed within 2 - 4 weeks every time. Again.. a very low level programming task to setup pagination, allowing your site to be fully indexed. (Pagination is all that wordpress uses too, so you know.) 4) Most splogs are wp plugins.. (checkout wprobot3 there genius).

You crack me up.. speaking on google's behalf. Anyway.. I'm out too. It's clear to me that you have a lot to learn.. way too much to teach you in one thread.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

wow... with every post, you show yourself a bit more clueless. based on this post, i'm convinced you lie about a lot of things.. including making any money online. you seem way to unlearned about how the online world works.

I know you wanna look "cool" etc but which exactly point of those 4 make you to think so?

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

i make all my money with autoblogs.. and i make thousands every month.. so you're lying to the wrong guy.

What's wrong with that statement?

I'm the one who invented the Morphing Feeds term/concept (google for it) which became the industrial standard and was licensed by 100+ affiliate programs. At least only this fact gives you some clue on who I am, what I know and what I did for autoblogging.

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

1) guids exist in a lot of rss feeds such as amazon, but the majority do not have them. right click your rss feed, view source and take a look and you will know if they do or not. (now how in the world would you have insight into googles algorithm to even possibly think they care about the rss guid?)

Sir, now I see you are completely clueless... Let me show you a very simple example. Let's imagine you have some autoblog (say myautoblog.com) where you pull the the RSS content from another blog (say donorblog.com/feed or from some Amzon feed, e.g.: Amazon.com: Best Sellers) using some autoblogging plugin (say FeedWordPress, Wp-o-Matic etc).

Everything seems ok. But it just seems. If you look at your blog's feed (myautoblog.com/feed) you'll notice the donorblog.com and Amazon fingerprints there. I mean something like this:

Code:

<guid isPermaLink="false">http://donorblog.com/2011/09/30/cool-article/</guid>
...
<guid isPermaLink="false">http://top-sellers_3600_3600_0596805527</guid>

etc. This is how search engines identify the actual source of "your" content. This is not the only way but just one of the most easiest ones.

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

2) even a lowly skilled programmer could regex the guid out of any feed.

Excuse me, but what for?

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

3) I use no sitemap of any kind of my pure php sites and I launch sites that have thousands of pages (sometimes 20,000) indexed within 2 - 4 weeks every time. Again.. a very low level programming task to setup pagination, allowing your site to be fully indexed. (Pagination is all that wordpress uses too, so you know.)

Good for you, but why did you tell me that? Don't you really understand what I meant in point (3)? Re-read it please.

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

4) Most splogs are wp plugins.. (checkout wprobot3 there genius).

Most of splogs are WP blogs (not plugins

) which use autoblogging scripts (RSS aggregators) like the one mentioned in your post above. Everything is cool, except the RSS origin fingerprints, lack of built-in content spinner and a few other bitter moments

Sir, I don't know who are you and how exactly you are related to autobloggin, but why the hell I'm explaining you the basic things every noob knows about? So I totally agree with you - let's stop this pointless "Autoblogging for Dummies" course. I'm a coder, but not a teacher.

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ZachMagar

15 years ago

Wordpress is a user friendly, SEO friendly and completely customizable. So go ahead.
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15 years ago

Originally Posted by David McKee

Switching to Wordpress depends entirely on what you want to do going forward. Are you an avid Php and Html developer? Do you have a grasp of CSS? You don;t need these things to use Wordpress, but if you do know them, you can make wordpress do anything you want.

-DTM

I like to have better ranking to my site or should I say wordpress and traffic as well.

My ranking went up ( I using alexa for that ) but my traffic went all the way down. Not sure what I HAVE done wrong.

Originally Posted by Regal Content

Once you switch to Word Press you'll never go back

I thinking to of going back any advise?

Originally Posted by savvybizbuilder

You will have to start over again if you want to transfer on Wordpress but its worth the effort.

I don't understand this part, start over again

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

That's actually not true. You are not starting over. You already have content indexed and if you set the permalinks right, you don't lose any of that.

If the site is large with a lot of content, there's no easy way to transfer it over, so it's time consuming to do so, but it's not the same as starting over from scratch.

Friend of mine's site started out as an html site. It gets 1M visitors a month and has literally a ton of content. Adding all that content was a nightmare as an html site. They switched it over to Wordpress and it had to be quite a job moving all that content but they didn't lose their 1M visitors per month after doing so and now it's so much easier to keep the site updated. They write a ton of content daily.

Transfer? :confused: I copy and paste my content from html to wordpress post. Will this work as well. :confused: 1 MILLION visitors a month.WOW

I not sure what to do now.

Or where can I find help in this matter. :confused:

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15 years ago

Word press is very user friendly and once you get the hang of it it is extremely easy to use!

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AllThingsArePossible 15 years ago

switchover to wordpress already....you can't go wrong with all the sweet plugins dude

x-site pro does not have the plugins
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15 years ago

Wow... so I just went and multi quoted the first page.... so much misinformation going on that I can't even wait for page 2 or 3.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

If I were you, I'd move. Google loves WordPress. Also it's a very extendable and customizing CMS. The only thing you have to do is to set your permalinks in a proper way to keep the original site structure as much as possible. Search engines don't like dead pages.

Google loves fresh content. Google doesn't care about wordpress. Since wordpress is at its core, a blog platform, it would theoretically have fresh content.

Originally Posted by Alan Ashwood

Maybe I'm being naiive but -

If you already have an established 'proper' website that is ranked, why not add a link to a connected WP blog. This way you can retain control over both. You can feed the blog with ever changing content, and advertise your site with the blog.

Likewise you canlink to your blog from the website.

I'd be intereseted to see some professional opinions on this. All my sites are using WordPress, but that's where I started and it's easier for me, as I'm a klutz at web design.

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Alan, thank you for being a wordpress user with common sense. You are right, absolutely right!

Originally Posted by UMS

If you are confident with using XsitePro and have good on-page SEO, there's no real compelling reason to move over to WordPress.

WordPress isn't going to automatically give you better rankings. It all depends on what on-page SEO factors you use.

EXACTLY!

Originally Posted by Steven Miranda

Wordpress is wonderful in 99% of cases. You can make Wordpress look nothing like a blog. I run a store and they have so many options... shopping carts.. any plugin you can imagine. Things are a lot different in the days before Wordpress.

Wordpress is wonderful in 99% of the cases where the person behind the site is mediocre or below average at customizing or isn't great with code. It IS user friendly... It is not as flexible as you guys seem to think. For any REAL web developer, wordpress is the minor leagues my friend.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

That's a very wrong statement. Google has an internal rating system for various CMS. And that's not a secret actually.

"WordPress takes care of 80-90% of (the mechanics of) Search Engine Optimization (SEO)" ~ Matt Cutts, WordCamp in San Francisco, May, 2009.

Matt Cutts tells the truth all the time, right? LOL. First of all, Matt Cutts and the webspam team don't work on the algorithm to see what ranks. They make changes to prevent rankings.

If it takes care of 80-90% of SEO, then are you saying that off page SEO is only 10-20% of a factor?

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

"Rubbish" you say? Even after the Matt Cutts quote above?

Ok here is a couple of another ones:

"WordPress is a fantastic choice for SEO" ~ Matt Cutts

I find this interesting that you ave a link in your sig about autoblogging, but Matt Cutts has said to not do that.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

It looks like you just called Matt Cutts a tattler

Actually there are many wrong points in your statement. It's too long to explain then one by one especially because everything was already explained, tested and compared 1000 + 1 times on the Internet. Why should I do it again here? If you consider that Google has no its own CMS rating system, it's not a my problem. I'm for the freedom of personal opinions

BTW, I never said that WordPress itself is a "rainbow"or something like that. I just said that Google loves that CMS and that's truth - you believe it, or not

LOL then show proof. Show your tests, because I have over 50 joomla sites and 75 drupal sites that are outranking wordpress blogs and other formats. What gives there?

In theory, I can change some code in other CMS's to mimic wordpress, and then I would have a ranking bonus? lol. Such BS.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Can you read between the lines, no? Do you real expect to hear something like "Yes guys, I'm gonna to assure you: Google rates WP higher than <...> (put any other CMS name here)" directly from... Matt Cutts?

You are just joking, right?

P.S. Will it really change the things if I say that Matt Cutts loves WordPress?

I don't think any of us that REALLY do SEO, care what Matt Cutts says at all...

Originally Posted by webcore

NEVER underestimate the statments which claim "Google loves WP"!

WP had been around for quite a while before I jumped on board and began to implement it and my traffic was the fastest I've even seen.

My blog surpassed the figures of my main website within only a few months.

How about Google loves fresh content. Maybe it was easier for you to update since it is, afterall a CMS.

Why do I always find myself in these threads? Page 2 here I come.

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emavens 15 years ago

WordPress is the Most User-friendly content Management system I have ever worked on. All search engine Optimizers and web developers like me , just Love wordpress ! With WordPress Template and Wordpress Plugins, you can make WordPress best and do almost anything you want! Here in India More and more, website designers and website developers are realizing that WordPress is an extremely powerful and customizable CMS. Feel free to Switch to Wordpress
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In my experience I've found WP sites to rank much quicker and easier than other platforms.
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15 years ago

I love Wordpress, pretty simple to use, tons of tutorials and how-to youtube videos.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a good custom WP editor? I've looked a bit, but want some real opinions before i start messing with plug-ins, etc.

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hanandaner

15 years ago

I would suggest you to move to wordpress but just make sure to keep the structure as it is. i.e. keep the categories the same name, same title for posts(links),etc.

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guitarjosh

15 years ago

People on this forum always build Wordpress up like it's something special. Listen.. wordpress is a nice platform.. easy to use.. and all that, but there is no special "Google Love" given to wordpress at all. Wordpress doesn't make your sites rank better and wordpress won't solve world hunger.

Quite simply, if you think it's easier for you to manage long term and maybe you can make it look prettier for your guests, those would be reasons to go to wordpress. There's no SEO benefits that can be gained over a simple static html site or a strictly php/mysql site unless you're not smart enough to add h1/h2 title tags to your html site or the likes of that (and that would really be pretty sad).

I do everything with php/mysql and my sites rank.. super fast. I get adsense clicks within 2 weeks on any site I launch every time.

Build with what you're most comfortable with.

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seobuzz

15 years ago

I think now a days wordpress is always a better option. And by 'better' I mean it will improve your site traffic wise and ranking wise also.

WP has some good plugins to help your cause as well.

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Rob Howard

15 years ago

So you did the same thing that could be done with an HTML site - the only thing you did was good SEO practices.

Again, this proves nothing.

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CyberSEO 15 years ago

Originally Posted by ccmusicman

So you did the same thing that could be done with an HTML site

Nope I'm a coder, so all my "HTML" sites are done on PHP. Not everything that have an ".html" extension is a real static one (a simple "AddType" line in the .htaccess file does the trick)
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UMS

15 years ago

CyberSEO, you need to brush up on Causality.

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CyberSEO 15 years ago

Originally Posted by UMS

CyberSEO, you need to brush up on Causality.

Nope, I believe my improvement in Daoism, Socialism and Buddhism will be enough for the further self-enlightenment

But thanks for the tip anyways
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Rob Howard

15 years ago

Straight from Google: What You Need to Know

Slide 11 and 12:

Wordpress is a great choice...

because

Wordpress takes care of 80 to 90% of (the mechanics of it) Search Engine Optimization

I went ahead and bolded/underlined why wordpress is a good choice. The Mechanics of SEO are handled automatically.

Nowhere did Matt Cutts say "Google Loves Wordpress". He said it is a good choice because it handles most of the SEO automatically.

The mechanics of SEO are the same regardless of wordpress, html, php, drupal...

Straight from the horses mouth.

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guitarjosh 15 years ago

Originally Posted by ccmusicman

The mechanics of SEO are the same regardless of wordpress, html, php, drupal...

Straight from the horses mouth.

Rob

lol.. debate over. Something tells me he'll still be foolish enough to argue.
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UMS

15 years ago

You know, if I wasn't so cynical, I probably wouldn't say that it appears that CyberSEO is trolling in order to promote his WP plugin.

Luckily, I'm not a cynical person.

Anyway, I'm done now. It's totally pointless to keep this thread going any longer.

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CyberSEO 15 years ago

Originally Posted by UMS

Anyway, I'm done now. It's totally pointless to keep this thread going any longer.

Thank you, Sir!
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  Originally Posted by guitarjosh
  
  lol.. debate over. Something tells me he'll still be foolish enough to argue.
  
  Of course he will. He has a plugin to, well, plug... :rolleyes:
  
  Originally Posted by CyberSEO
  
  Thank you, Sir!
  
  I don't believe that was intended to be a compliment.
  
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  I don't believe that was intended to be a compliment.
  
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Jason Kanigan

15 years ago

Wordpress is so easy to use, has so many nifty themes and plugins, and can easily be adjusted to make your site look like a regular website instead of a blog if that's what you want, that it's a brain-dead simple decision to move over.

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winseosoft

15 years ago

Wordpress is easy and it gets better indexed.
Also there are many themes and plugins that can ease your work , must of them are free but you can buy others.
I used wordpress and had no complaints about it.
You should at least give it a try and if you like it make the switch if don't...turn back to Xsitepro but i think you will like it.
You can't improve yourself if you don't try other things too.

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Christine2011

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Angela Neo

I've got a site that is pretty established. It was built using Xsitepro (html). There are some inner pages indexed and ranked on Google as well. I'm thinking to build out the site and make it bigger... I'm not sure if it will help better in ranking if I change to wordpress? But I've already got pages indexed so if I change to WP then it will probably affect the site/rankings.

What do you think? Anyone using Xsitepro have experience with building authority sites with it? Any success?

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Wordpress is cool

You better go and try it... Haven't tried using Xsitepro though. However, I'll be checking on it now.

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15 years ago

Well, I guess everyone noticed that, once you use WordPress.ORG , you will be amazed by the posting system and the plugin , also the THEME ! haha ~!

Also, I guess everyone noticed also you also can build a website that is looks like 3D feeling of text and also bunch of button and so on. This is how WordPress strong at here. Plus you can install a lot of cool features of comment button , autoresponsder and so on. COOL !

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Michael Harrington

15 years ago

WordPress is the BEST!
I started my Blog in July, and I found it so easy to setup.
You will love it.

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Kerryrus

15 years ago

html is not as popular as it used to be and Wordpress is definitely a platform you should be using in your online business. They can be used for so many different things now, not just blogs. And at the end of the day Google loves blogs. They rank higher than any html site unless you have been online for many yrs of course and worked had on your SEO

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John Hocking 15 years ago

Wordpress is easy to intergrate with social media like twitter and facebook.

Wordpess also notifies the blog search engines when you add content and can get you traffic from the blogsphere.
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erwingoh

15 years ago

I'd certainly recommend you move. WordPress is relatively easy to maintain, can add multiple forms of functionality via plug-ins, and is especially loved by Google.

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Carolyn L. 15 years ago

I would stick with XSitePro and as was suggested maybe add a blog to your domain. Why take a chance on losing your rankings?

I use XSitePro all the time and love it (and have some sites that are ranking very well). It's very flexible in terms of what you are able to do and I just like the way an html site looks. (Apparently so do many WP users as the goal often seems to be to keep the site from looking like a blog!)

I may try WP on a site soon. Until about a week or so ago, I was on a satellite internet connection and doing the frequent updates and uploading did not work well. But I'll never give up my XSitePro.
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dagaul101

15 years ago

If you change to Wordpress it shouldn't affect you that much (if at all), Wordpress has a host of plugins to greatly improve your SEO capabilities, that will more than make up for any reduction in rankings as you switch

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Banned 15 years ago

If you've got an html site already established, the one advantage that switching it to Wordpress would have is the ease of adding new content. Other than that, I would see no reason to switch. But if you add a lot of new content, it would probably be worth your while to switch over.

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savvybizbuilder

15 years ago

You will have to start over again if you want to transfer on Wordpress but its worth the effort.

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Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by savvybizbuilder

You will have to start over again if you want to transfer on Wordpress but its worth the effort.

That's actually not true. You are not starting over. You already have content indexed and if you set the permalinks right, you don't lose any of that.

If the site is large with a lot of content, there's no easy way to transfer it over, so it's time consuming to do so, but it's not the same as starting over from scratch.

Take this site for example
http://www.superficialgallery.com/

Friend of mine's site started out as an html site. It gets 1M visitors a month and has literally a ton of content. Adding all that content was a nightmare as an html site. They switched it over to Wordpress and it had to be quite a job moving all that content but they didn't lose their 1M visitors per month after doing so and now it's so much easier to keep the site updated. They write a ton of content daily.

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iAmNameLess

15 years ago

Time for round 2.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

"Hidden"? )) Sorry, English is not my mother language, so I really have no idea on how to interpret the following his statement: "WordPress is a fantastic choice for SEO", especially taking into account the fact that he runs his personal blog on WordPress since 2005. If it's not love, there must be some other English word for that ))

2Istvan Horvath: Mr. Ulyanov was right, but you will never agree, right?

Any platform, any CMS that is optimized is great for SEO. I'm glad you underlined that he runs his personal blog on wordpress since wordpress at its core is a blogging platform and probably why you think it is great for SEO.

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

People on this forum always build Wordpress up like it's something special. Listen.. wordpress is a nice platform.. easy to use.. and all that, but there is no special "Google Love" given to wordpress at all. Wordpress doesn't make your sites rank better and wordpress won't solve world hunger.

Quite simply, if you think it's easier for you to manage long term and maybe you can make it look prettier for your guests, those would be reasons to go to wordpress. There's no SEO benefits that can be gained over a simple static html site or a strictly php/mysql site unless you're not smart enough to add h1/h2 title tags to your html site or the likes of that (and that would really be pretty sad).

I do everything with php/mysql and my sites rank.. super fast. I get adsense clicks within 2 weeks on any site I launch every time.

Build with what you're most comfortable with.

I think I remember you from a couple similar threads to this one LOL. I agree completely.

Originally Posted by Regal Content

Once you switch to Word Press you'll never go back, it's just a great platform for launching sites quickly and keeping everything organized. I love WP.

Yes it is great for those too simple to use other platforms, and those that just want something EASY and don't have a need for extreme customization or flexibility. Any REAL developer will tell you that wordpress is minor leagues, however it IS used. I will build a client website on wordpress if it makes sense, but often times I find Joomla, Drupal, or Magento to be the better choice.

Originally Posted by seobuzz

I think now a days wordpress is always a better option. And by 'better' I mean it will improve your site traffic wise and ranking wise also.

WP has some good plugins to help your cause as well.

NO AND NO. It is very RARELY the better option. I don't know what kind of garbage you guys are putting out there but there is not a single CMS that is the best option. Every CMS has its pros and cons.

And by the second no, I mean no, it will not improve your site traffic and ranking unless it is optimizes on page and off page.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Thank you so much for this explanation. It's genius! I really don't even understand how I was made my living with SEO during all past 10 years without it

Sir, I don't want to look arrogant but I'm making 6 digit profit every year on WP autoblogs only during almost six years in a raw. I believe you are very skilled and wise man, but please don't destroy with your single post everything I was believed to all this time.

Thank you

I know a guy that doesn't do SEO at all, but he makes hundreds of thousands a year at it. I think it is funny how you mention your 6 figure autoblogs, but you are on Matt Cutts junk riding it into the sunset. I thought Matt Cutts talked about duplicate and regurgitated content being bad? Or are we just picking and choosing what botched quotes to use here?

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Yes of course I have. I have transferred 100's of static sites to WP and I got a huge SE traffic increase there during just a few months (usually 1-3 months only, and 6 months a max). Believe me - I know what I'm talking about.

I have experienced the same. With Wordpress, Joomla, Drupal, and Magento. Even Reliant CMS that is built with Ruby. You know why that is? Because static sites load by lines of code. Dynamic websites load by pulling from a database. Typically it can speed things up...

I have also had sites where I moved from one host to another and experienced a change in rankings. Why is that I wonder? Maybe because of speed, maybe because of a shared IP that had a bad apple on the network. Who knows... but it happens.

I have built hundreds of websites on each platform. I think 300+ sites on wordpress, and even more on joomla and drupal with a decent amount on magento as well. So Believe me, I also know what I'm talking about.

Any self proclaimed programmer or developer that says one CMS works for everything, is NOT a true developer.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I believe that the head of Google's Webspam team publicly stated: "WordPress is a fantastic choice for SEO". This is more than enough actually

I believe that the head of Google's Webspam team publicly released a big algorithm update.... the panda update, have you heard of that? It is supposed to effect autoblogs, content farms, and low quality content. Your signature is showing that you don't agree with what he says there? Wordpress is a fantastic choice for SEO, along with the other major CMS's.

Originally Posted by Kerryrus

html is not as popular as it used to be and Wordpress is definitely a platform you should be using in your online business. They can be used for so many different things now, not just blogs. And at the end of the day Google loves blogs. They rank higher than any html site unless you have been online for many yrs of course and worked had on your SEO

Hope that helps

Kerry

I believe HTML is still popular, you use it in wordpress, but you're right. The game has changed a bit so you need to adapt.

Once again, we have a typical response from someone who doesn't REALLY know the truth, just the popular hype. At the end of the day, google doesn't even love blogs. If you have a blog that isn't updated, what good does it do? Google likes fresh, and updated content. That is usually what blogs are... but that is what google likes..

I know of plenty websites that are static html and killing the competition. If you really know about SEO... it is about optimization, not which back end is the most user friendly lol.

Originally Posted by John Hocking

Wordpress is easy to intergrate with social media like twitter and facebook.

Wordpess also notifies the blog search engines when you add content and can get you traffic from the blogsphere.

ARRRRGGGG!! EVERY CMS CAN DO THIS! EVERY WEBSITE CAN DO THIS LOL!

Originally Posted by Darla Christensen

I were you, switch it to Wordpress. Wordpress is tested and proven to be the best blog site ever.

BEST BLOG PLATFORM, you are right.

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waken

15 years ago

I'll stick to Xsitepro. It has no problem handling large site with 100+pages. And if you like Wordpress, why don't you just add a wordpress blog in addition to your existing domain?

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Hafeez

15 years ago

Wordpress is better only if you can nicely administer the WP otherwise its better to keep your existing site and install wordpress in a subfolder and use it for whatever you want and link the WP to your existing website.

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abrahamgpg

15 years ago

If you want to use WordPress.. Go ahead. It's a great platform to work on.

BUT !!!!

Do not port your existing site to wordpress if it's already got a good PR. Leave it where it is and just link to it from your new sites on the wordpress platform. and link to the new sites from the old site.

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iAmNameLess

15 years ago

And now a recap.

Guys... It doesn't matter if you use Wordpress, Joomla, Drupal, Reliant, Prestashop, Magento, OScommerce, Bigcommerce or any other CMS.

BUT... PLEASE stop spreading LIES that wordpress is the best, when the TRUTH is that you have only used wordpress or flaked out on drupal or joomla because you couldn't wrap your brain around the so called "complexity" of the admin panel. I have 60 year old computer illiterate clients that are updating their websites DAILY and not using wordpress. They also have #1 rankings for numerous keywords.

There is no overall BEST. The BEST CMS is the one that is most efficient in getting the job done, and no it is definitely NOT wordpress in most cases. If you guys are throwing up BS MFA websites and you need mass amounts of them, then wordpress could be ideal for you. If you are putting up a corporate website, than joomla or drupal is more ideal for you. If you have a store with thousands of products, why even entertain anything other than magento?

Come on now guys... think before you post. Don't say something is the best, just because you are too ignorant of other platforms!

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nmbancard

15 years ago

Really great post mate. Yeah you can do it with Wordpress because today it is very popular CMS on the other hand I also use it it regards of it saves my time to easy using.

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sumonrahman

15 years ago

Yeah you can switch as I'm using Wordpress for my websites (Approximately 10) and you'd be glad that I'm getting very top notch services from it! Easy to use and superb plugins are the top reason I chosen wordpress a few years ago. So I'm with you to switch wordpress.

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15 years ago

I think so as I'm having wordpress with my Comics business websites.

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ClarkKent

15 years ago

If you're looking to expand Wordpress is the best choice in terms of an ease-of-use CMS.

It's got a slight learning curve, especially the initial implementation depending on what themes you're using and such, but in all reality it's as straight forward as you're going to get for a publishing platform that looks good.

Will it improve your SEO?
Not really, as long as your site already had onsite SEO.
If anything some of your pages will lose some SERP (make sure you do your 301 redirects to the pages' new homes).

In the end though, if you're looking to expand your content and go long term with your website, having the ability to reformat logos, sidebars, etc. on the fly is fairly invaluable.

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Angela Neo

15 years ago

Personally I like using Xsitepro cuz it's just so easy and fast to set up a new site. And not to mention I don't have to deal with the constant updates. But if I want to flip the site later, would a html site still sell well? I know most sites sold on Flippa are wordpress sites and that is the most popular one. Would having a html site make any difference in my sale?

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jumpa

15 years ago

Hi, Angela. in my opinion, you should not change your website, but you have some option
- make sub domain and build it on wordpress
- get another domain with another extension [.net.info.org]
- get another domain and put some additional word like "x,f,top, best, " or anything.

and make this new wordpress site as a back lin feeder for your existing website
so you get two benefit from singel action

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kenn1288

15 years ago

Go with wordrpess..static sites today are fading since it needs so much time and work even just changing a single word or links. Wordpress is very friendly, You can update something just for just a minute.

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rahulrockerdwor

15 years ago

You should definitely switch to wordpress. It is the best CMS till date and is very user friendly followed by millions of plugins to choose from.

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15 years ago

Everybody share their good post. Thanks everybody.

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15 years ago

If your site is currently ranking and doing well, put the WordPress install on a subdomain and use both. You should still be able to sell your site on Flippa depending on it's success and value.

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blogfreakz

15 years ago

There are a lot of possibilities in Wordpress because of plugins that will help you out in traffic plus as what they say Wordpress or Blogspot loves Google ...