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I have been learning Joomla and looking for a good template. I like the Impacto theme from Joomlashack, but then I started looking at the pricing... $55 for the template, then they want another $42 to "Remove all Joomlashack branding links and white label our Joomla templates for your website."

Is that pretty standard for premium templates to pay extra so you can remove the template designer's logo / links?

What about licensing of buying one template and can only use it on one live webpage? That seem standard, but I don't have to like it.

Are YOOtheme templates any good? I like the looks of their Revista, but wish it had a LH position for a menu. There are also some from Rocketheme I like as well such as Clarion.

How important is the template design for SEO? I know Joomlashack talks about how they optimize their templates for SEO, but wouldn't everyone do something similar?
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  • Profile picture of the author tamnl
    Hi JGlasmore, Premium Joomla Templates will bring you more benefits - better design, features and support, not only to remove the template designer's logo
    If your website is just personal website and you're a Joomla newbie, I think you should download the free Joomla templates to test it first. Many free joomla templates are beautiful for you to choose. The logo is not a big thing in your design

    Each template has another PROs and CONs, you can read this article to know more. Tell me what kind of website you want to build, i will give you the suitable free templates.

    About Joomla SEO templates, they will help you much about SEO optimization for your websites. A beautiful template is not enough if it doesn't help you have a high rank in Google. SEO friendly template can do something such as: allow main content is searched first, add image alt text and link for logo, fast load ... If you use normal Joomla templates, you will need SEO extensions to help you improve your SEO
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    • Profile picture of the author JGladmore
      Originally Posted by tamnl View Post

      Hi JGlasmore, Premium Joomla Templates will bring you more benefits - better design, features and support, not only to remove the template designer's logo
      If your website is just personal website and you're a Joomla newbie, I think you should download the free Joomla templates to test it first. Many free joomla templates are beautiful for you to choose. The logo is not a big thing in your design

      Each template has another PROs and CONs, you can read this article to know more. Tell me what kind of website you want to build, i will give you the suitable free templates.

      About Joomla SEO templates, they will help you much about SEO optimization for your websites. A beautiful template is not enough if it doesn't help you have a high rank in Google. SEO friendly template can do something such as: allow main content is searched first, add image alt text and link for logo, fast load ... If you use normal Joomla templates, you will need SEO extensions to help you improve your SEO
      I guess the inital issues with the one template was I have to pay $55, THEN another $42 to remove branding. So, $97, but, maybe having the logo doesn't really matter?

      I seem to be able to get other premium templates for around $50 that don't have an extra cost to "white label". I just feel if I am going to spend $50, there are two templates I like, then I am going to go with the one without the developer's logo and links on it.



      I want a clean, crisp, fast loading template for a science/engineering webpage. Preferrable one that have the basic SEO stuff built in (e.g. load main content first)

      I have about 8 other webpages to develop after this one including a Philosophy one that the wife will build content for. We each want to start with the one we like the most, then feel it out from there .
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  • Profile picture of the author cma01
    J,

    Most of my Joomla sites I've designed myself, so I don't have a lot of experience using other people's.

    However, I have used a Rockettheme template before, and I liked it. I do have a membership with them as I use some of their plugins.

    I don't think that the paying extra to remove the branding is necessarily standard for Joomla themes, for plugins/components yes. But the developer can set their pricing however they want.

    What is pretty common with Joomla theme developers is a Template club where you pay a subscription and then get access to all of the templates for that period. I think they usually limit the number of domains you can use them on.

    One that I would be a little bit wary of is JoomlaXTC. They have beautiful themes, but I took over maintenance for a site using one of their themes. The theme calls other template files using relative URL's, meaning that if you turn on SEF url's, the theme breaks.

    Not good.

    I don't know if their newer themes are the same way, but it is something to consider.

    Unless if a designer seriously messes things up (which is always possible,) SEO for Joomla is more in the configuration in the administration area than the template.

    Things I would look for are if they use divisions versus tables. The default for Joomla is still tables, so the theme has to override that.

    The other thing that you don't really know until you get in and start using it is if the theme overrides standard functions in Joomla. Some do to get certain looks, but if you're used to the way Joomla functions, it can be a little frustrating to suddenly run into that.

    Joomla 2.5 has meta description and keyword tags as part of the core now. To get control over the titles, the SEF extension I use handles that, sh404SEF.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by cma01 View Post

      J,

      Most of my Joomla sites I've designed myself, so I don't have a lot of experience using other people's.

      However, I have used a Rockettheme template before, and I liked it. I do have a membership with them as I use some of their plugins.

      I don't think that the paying extra to remove the branding is necessarily standard for Joomla themes, for plugins/components yes. But the developer can set their pricing however they want.

      What is pretty common with Joomla theme developers is a Template club where you pay a subscription and then get access to all of the templates for that period. I think they usually limit the number of domains you can use them on.

      One that I would be a little bit wary of is JoomlaXTC. They have beautiful themes, but I took over maintenance for a site using one of their themes. The theme calls other template files using relative URL's, meaning that if you turn on SEF url's, the theme breaks.

      Not good.

      I don't know if their newer themes are the same way, but it is something to consider.

      Unless if a designer seriously messes things up (which is always possible,) SEO for Joomla is more in the configuration in the administration area than the template.

      Things I would look for are if they use divisions versus tables. The default for Joomla is still tables, so the theme has to override that.

      The other thing that you don't really know until you get in and start using it is if the theme overrides standard functions in Joomla. Some do to get certain looks, but if you're used to the way Joomla functions, it can be a little frustrating to suddenly run into that.

      Joomla 2.5 has meta description and keyword tags as part of the core now. To get control over the titles, the SEF extension I use handles that, sh404SEF.

      I have never had that problem with JoomlaXTC and have been using them since the beginning.
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  • Profile picture of the author JGladmore
    cma01,

    Thank you for all that information. I have see the developer clubs, but I am not ready for that yet.

    I have heard a lot of good about Rocketthemes in my searches and their prices are reasonable. Now I just have to get over my doubt about going with Joomla instead of Wordpress.
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  • Profile picture of the author cma01
    I have never had that problem with JoomlaXTC and have been using them since the beginning.
    Really? That's interesting.

    Maybe that is just one more *special* thing the person that set up the site did. I'm constantly finding little surprises on that one and it's been a nightmare.
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  • Profile picture of the author darkwader123
    There a lot of free joomla tempaltes . ONLY PROBLEM that i have senn there is the facet that they have hidden links which is bad for your site
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  • Profile picture of the author shantanu
    Here are some joomla templates which are very professional in their looks and give good seo tips too.

    QUALITY JOOMLA TEMPLATES

    Professional Joomla Templates
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  • Profile picture of the author cma01
    LOL.. Do you host the site yourself? Do you know if you are on linux based or windows based for that website?

    . . .
    Oh... ALSO... Perhaps the SEF isn't set up right? Do you have this in a subdirectory... for example... ROOT/subdirectory? Some hosts you have to change one little thing in order for it to work right. I've had that problem on GoDaddy and 1and1 in the past.
    I'm actually in the process of transferring it all over to mine now.

    I can't wait until everything is done, it's been a complete nightmare trying to get things done because the previous person wouldn't give me access to the hosting cPanel.

    If you say those templates actually work, I'm kind of excited. I thought I was going to have to recode the whole template so the SEF would work and also upgrade it. Maybe all I need to do is buy the theme again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rankx
    Joomla templates are easy to duplicate. I actually build my own Joomla templates by looking for free or premium css/joomla templates that I like and just coding it myself. Even if the template is free, I build it myself because I do not want to deal with other people's code.
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    • Profile picture of the author JGladmore
      Originally Posted by Rankx View Post

      Joomla templates are easy to duplicate. I actually build my own Joomla templates by looking for free or premium css/joomla templates that I like and just coding it myself. Even if the template is free, I build it myself because I do not want to deal with other people's code.
      I plan to learn how to do it myself, but my first goal is to get a couple webpages up. I'll then go from there.
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      • Profile picture of the author DigitalDanny
        Start with one of the templates that comes with Joomla and modify it to your needs. Use it for learning purposes.
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  • Profile picture of the author JGladmore
    cma01,

    I checked out sh404SEF and think I will probably get it as well. Are there any other must have extensions for Joomla?

    I am also looking for a good extension that will let an article have reader comments below it like a blog.

    If I turn on SEF before I bulid my webpage, then I shouldn't have to worry about any broken links?

    In the global settings should I have all SEO Settings set to "yes" ?

    IAmNameLess,

    Glad to see you in my thread. I did a lot of lurking here looking at WordPress vs Joomla, and your posts convinced me I should go Joomla.
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    • Profile picture of the author DigitalDanny
      If I turn on SEF before I bulid my webpage, then I shouldn't have to worry about any broken links?
      Keep the SEF settings disabled until your site is finished, then check if you have any broken links.
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