Building a Stunning Website?

by zendao
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So this year I'm starting a website-building business for small local business and I want to build the best looking most bad-ass (yet simple) website for my business to show people what they could get. I can only build wordpress blog sites ATM but I think I might have to use another platform right? I would probably build it myself unless there's cheap ways to get it done.

What would be the best way to go about this?

thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
    Originally Posted by zendao View Post

    So this year I'm starting a website-building business for small local business and I want to build the best looking most bad-ass (yet simple) website for my business to show people what they could get. I can only build wordpress blog sites ATM but I think I might have to use another platform right? I would probably build it myself unless there's cheap ways to get it done.

    What would be the best way to go about this?

    thanks!
    Stunning
    Really Cheap

    Pick one...

    Your jaw would drop if you knew what professional web developer companies charged. Wordpress is something I religiously live by and I recommend it for just about any use. Get yourself a sensible looking Wordpress theme, some plugins to help optimize your blog and if you don't have any money to hire a developer, learn HTML and CSS.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andylinks
    Originally Posted by zendao View Post

    So this year I'm starting a website-building business for small local business and I want to build the best looking most bad-ass (yet simple) website for my business to show people what they could get. I can only build wordpress blog sites ATM but I think I might have to use another platform right? I would probably build it myself unless there's cheap ways to get it done.

    What would be the best way to go about this?

    thanks!
    You need to have a real website and not a blog. You can get a stunning website for a very reasonable price. If your website is based on WordPress, it won't be long before your customers find out the truth, which is that you can't really design websites that's why you are stuck with WordPress.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
      Originally Posted by Andylinks View Post

      You need to have a real website and not a blog. You can get a stunning website for a very reasonable price. If your website is based on WordPress, it won't be long before your customers find out the truth, which is that you can't really design websites that's why you are stuck with WordPress.
      Wow, so much wrong with that statement I'm not sure where to begin.

      What's "wrong" with delivering a nice looking website that works exactly as it should, delivers exactly what the client wants, is easy to update by both the designer (yes designer) and the client, allows for simple plug ins and easy future development?

      This is not an "art-skill or coding" competition. This is a business which is based on delivering results. What "truth" are the customers going to "find out"? That you built them a nice looking website and didn't create every pixel and write every line of code in notepad? Who the **** cares about that? No one cares about your coding skill or your photoshop abilities - least of all a client who wants a clean, simple attractive website that communicates their business essentials.

      No one is "stuck" with wordpress. Patronising much? Intelligent website builders/designers know a great platform and tool that will help them and their clients when they see it. Is there a problem with intelligent business solutions?
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      • Profile picture of the author Andylinks
        Originally Posted by Mr Bill View Post


        Intelligent website builders/designers know a great platform and tool that will help them and their clients when they see it. Is there a problem with intelligent business solutions?
        No doubt about this. WordPress is very useful and versatile. However "Intelligent website builders/designers" as you call them should be able to actually build websites on different platforms, rather than just a blog. Even if they can't shouldn't this be the image they project to their customers?
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        • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
          Originally Posted by Andylinks View Post

          No doubt about this. WordPress is very useful and versatile. However "Intelligent website builders/designers" as you call them should be able to actually build websites on different platforms, rather than just a blog. Even if they can't shouldn't this be the image they project to their customers?
          Doesn't it matter more that the designer focus on benefits rather than "stunning" design? It is true that people want and expect nice looking sites if they are paying, but what businesses want the most is what we all want; bigger bank accounts.

          I think a designer starting out needs to match up their current skills with what most clients really want; a website that will help them get more business. The designer's site should look good, but who cares about "stunning"? If it has no way of capturing leads, I'd be far more concerned about that than the platform it's built on.

          If I were looking for a site for my store, I'd be a lot more impressed, and feel more confident hiring a designer that demonstrated some knowledge about how to make my site a client generating machine than one who dazzled me with tech talk about Joomla, CSS, or whatever; all stuff I probably never heard of because I care as much about that as I do about the engines of the trucks that deliver my goods to market. Just sayin.
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          • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
            Originally Posted by Greg guitar View Post

            Doesn't it matter more that the designer focus on benefits rather than "stunning" design? It is true that people want and expect nice looking sites if they are paying, but what businesses want the most is what we all want; bigger bank accounts.

            I think a designer starting out needs to match up their current skills with what most clients really want; a website that will help them get more business. The designer's site should look good, but who cares about "stunning"? If it has no way of capturing leads, I'd be far more concerned about that than the platform it's built on.

            If I were looking for a site for my store, I'd be a lot more impressed, and feel more confident hiring a designer that demonstrated some knowledge about how to make my site a client generating machine than one who dazzled me with tech talk about Joomla, CSS, or whatever; all stuff I probably never heard of because I care as much about that as I do about the engines of the trucks that deliver my goods to market. Just sayin.
            I'm not sure you know what a designer does. They "design" the outline and layout of the website.

            The way you put it, you want a designer and developer who will not only build the site, but will sell things to your customers for you. There's only so much a designer/developer can do and essentially, their job is to build the website. It's your job to sell to your customers, not theirs.
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            • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
              Originally Posted by Corey Geer View Post

              I'm not sure you know what a designer does. They "design" the outline and layout of the website.

              The way you put it, you want a designer and developer who will not only build the site, but will sell things to your customers for you. There's only so much a designer/developer can do and essentially, their job is to build the website. It's your job to sell to your customers, not theirs.
              I didn't say the designer's job is to relieve the client of having to do any selling, but if the purpose of the site is to make more money for the business (as it should be), then obviously the designer needs to prioritize serving that goal over creating "stunning" internet art.

              If you do need to make it "stunning", you still need to connect the dots for the client, on how that will help the bottom line. If you don't know whether it will, no amount of prettiness will make up for the fact that you're just producing expensive vanity projects, with no concern for the ROI to the business.

              Designers that connect to profitability will eat your lunch, and they should; they are providing benefits (and communicating that), instead of just doing expensive demonstrations of a skill businesses don't care about.

              I know in general terms what a designer does; I'm not one, but it's a given that you need to be able to provide a nice looking, functional site. However, I don't believe that is a good designer's only job, or even their main job

              I also know what Dan Kennedy would say is the main job of a designer with their own business, because he has repeatedly stated that no matter what business you're in, the main job of any business owner, is to market the good/s and/or service/s; the fulfillment is secondary.

              In other words plumbers must fix pipes, but that comes second to marketing their service of fixing pipes. Just as a designer's skills must be secondary to the marketing of those skills, which means a focus on the main benefits to the client, whether you think it ought to be in your job description or not, because it isn't just a job, but a business.
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        • Profile picture of the author Vlad Romanov
          Originally Posted by Andylinks View Post

          No doubt about this. WordPress is very useful and versatile. However "Intelligent website builders/designers" as you call them should be able to actually build websites on different platforms, rather than just a blog. Even if they can't shouldn't this be the image they project to their customers?
          You are right to some extent.

          Usually it depends on the customers budget and requirements. If they are willing to pay 300$ and just need a few pages of content, you are stuck with using Wordpress as anything else would not be worth your time for that money.

          If on the other hand they are looking for a custom site which is beyond WodPress scope and are willing to pay for it, then obviously you need something more robust.

          Websites are very rarely hand coded these days; unless you really can't find a plugin that does the job, there is no reason for you to code from scratch.
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          • Profile picture of the author Andylinks
            Originally Posted by Vlad Romanov View Post

            You are right to some extent.

            Usually it depends on the customers budget and requirements. If they are willing to pay 300$ and just need a few pages of content, you are stuck with using Wordpress as anything else would not be worth your time for that money.

            If on the other hand they are looking for a custom site which is beyond WodPress scope and are willing to pay for it, then obviously you need something more robust.

            Websites are very rarely hand coded these days; unless you really can't find a plugin that does the job, there is no reason for you to code from scratch.
            I don't know, most of the people who are on WordPress are more worried about the cost of getting a proper website, which is a concern, but should not be the only concern.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rollmodl
        Originally Posted by Mr Bill View Post

        Wow, so much wrong with that statement I'm not sure where to begin.

        What's "wrong" with delivering a nice looking website that works exactly as it should, delivers exactly what the client wants, is easy to update by both the designer (yes designer) and the client, allows for simple plug ins and easy future development?

        This is not an "art-skill or coding" competition. This is a business which is based on delivering results. What "truth" are the customers going to "find out"? That you built them a nice looking website and didn't create every pixel and write every line of code in notepad? Who the **** cares about that? No one cares about your coding skill or your photoshop abilities - least of all a client who wants a clean, simple attractive website that communicates their business essentials.

        No one is "stuck" with wordpress. Patronising much? Intelligent website builders/designers know a great platform and tool that will help them and their clients when they see it. Is there a problem with intelligent business solutions?
        Truth!

        I don't understand how people can suggest a platform without asking questions first. One must find out exactly what you need and what purpose it will serve. The platform you choose should be based on your needs and functions. Do you need a full blown community site and does Wordpress offer that? Do you need eCommerce? How about a business directory?

        Here is a helpful article SteamFeed - How to Identify the Website Platform to Meet Your Business Needs

        By the way, stunning is subjective.
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    • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
      Originally Posted by Andylinks View Post

      You need to have a real website and not a blog. You can get a stunning website for a very reasonable price. If your website is based on WordPress, it won't be long before your customers find out the truth, which is that you can't really design websites that's why you are stuck with WordPress.
      ...Oh holy hell how did I miss this response?

      Wordpress is a completely open source platform that while mostly used for Blogging, can be used for Static pages and just about anything you want. Wordpress is (In my opinion) the best platform to use. The powerful SEO capability, the functionality and not to mention I've never seen sites get indexed quicker than with Wordpress.

      "Stuck With Wordpress"

      It's the only thing I use for sites. Hell, a lot of people look for services to CONVERT their html pages to Wordpress.

      Web Designer Vs Web Developer

      Those are two different things that you seem to be confused about. A web designer "designs" the overall look of the web page and pretty much hands the developer the pieces of the puzzle. The developer adds the functionality and puts the puzzle together.

      People who are "the jack of all trades" and do both commonly aren't people that do high end jobs.

      While I will agree that you can't get a stunning website for a cheap price, it also depends on what people consider "stunning". Every time I'm in a thread, i'll open up a website in a new tab if I see someone owns one in their signature and... if that's any indication of stunning to a majority of people, then I guess you can get "stunning" websites for cheap.

      Seriously though, in my opinion, that's simply not possible.

      Also: With Premium themes or designing your own theme, most customers won't find out you're using Wordpress because I highly doubt they know what to look for in the source code to figure out you're using Wordpress and with a premium theme that annoying "Powered By" link goes away.

      which is that you can't really design websites
      I just now examined your site... not only is your Order button going to a broken link but... I'm not sure you're qualified to tell people that they can't design websites :\
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    • Profile picture of the author Scritty
      Originally Posted by Andylinks View Post

      You need to have a real website and not a blog. You can get a stunning website for a very reasonable price. If your website is based on WordPress, it won't be long before your customers find out the truth, which is that you can't really design websites that's why you are stuck with WordPress.
      How wrong can one quote be!
      I service many many customers and 90% of them have wordpress sites.
      Most of those have no idea it is a wordpress site however.
      If I'm only charging $1500 for web design then spending a week designing a site from scratch just isn't going to be cost effective. I use a ready made theme from theme forest or somwhere similar ($50 max) adapt it - then get on with adding the content.

      You'll need to make different choices if you want a very SEO centric website, but there are plenty of VERY good SEO thjemes available. Also invest in Artisteer 4 and you can design whatever the %^&* you like in minutes.

      SEO is based on content more than website factors these days.
      Conversion though requires careful choice of colours, layour and content

      You need to balance these 2 and the clients desire for a flashy website. Never met a client paying £5000 who didn't want a neat modern looking site and at the front end valued that more than SEO and conversion. Which, of course, in the long run is a mistake they will normally regret.

      I've got some major brands as clients. Very rarely build a website from scratch - if I did then $5000 would likely be my minimum charge which is still less than most of the other pro services in my area which charge £5000 (UK£) which is about $7,500.

      On that subject, it's almost cartel pricing around here. EVERYONE charges £5000 for a full website build, almost regardless of the site size and complexity. Hope the fair trade commission don't get wind of it. It looks like price fixing to me. Some are worth £5000 sure, but some are 5 page wonders that couldn't have take more than a morning to put together. Oh well.

      Scritty
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
        Originally Posted by Scritty View Post

        How wrong can one quote be!
        I service many many customers and 90% of them have wordpress sites.
        Most of those have no idea it is a wordpress site however.
        If I'm only charging $1500 for web design then spending a week designing a site from scratch just isn't going to be cost effective. I use a ready made theme from theme forest or somwhere similar ($50 max) adapt it - then get on with adding the content.

        You'll need to make different choices if you want a very SEO centric website, but there are plenty of VERY good SEO thjemes available. Also invest in Artisteer 4 and you can design whatever the %^&* you like in minutes.

        SEO is based on content more than website factors these days.
        Conversion though requires careful choice of colours, layour and content

        You need to balance these 2 and the clients desire for a flashy website. Never met a client paying £5000 who didn't want a neat modern looking site and at the front end valued that more than SEO and conversion. Which, of course, in the long run is a mistake they will normally regret.

        I've got some major brands as clients. Very rarely build a website from scratch - if I did then $5000 would likely be my minimum charge which is still less than most of the other pro services in my area which charge £5000 (UK£) which is about $7,500.

        On that subject, it's almost cartel pricing around here. EVERYONE charges £5000 for a full website build, almost regardless of the site size and complexity. Hope the fair trade commission don't get wind of it. It looks like price fixing to me. Some are worth £5000 sure, but some are 5 page wonders that couldn't have take more than a morning to put together. Oh well.

        Scritty
        I agree with your main points, but I don't believe price fixing is possible in an industry where the barrier to entry is as low as it is with web design, and the market is so global.

        Anyone can start a web design company with nothing but a few templates, a tiny bit of knowledge, and an email account, and can sell to clients on multiple continents. If there is any attempt at price fixing, it's just a matter of a short time before upstarts will knock the prices back down again.
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            I've recently been through four presentations to hire a web designer/dev. Of the four presentations, the liveliest was the one where the presenter touched BRIEFLY AND ENOUGH to convince that the site will look how we want, work, be secure, hosted with right company, coded properly... (WP by the way.)

            But, the majority of this lively presentation was spent in Q and A about how it would solve our marketing concerns. The tech and design stuff was more of a given.
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    • Profile picture of the author franktwin
      Originally Posted by ldiaz117 View Post

      Wordpress is all you need.
      This is very true, wordpress is the best platform you can use to build a site professionally! Tons are features and capabilities.
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    • Profile picture of the author Deacon Blues
      Originally Posted by ldiaz117 View Post

      Wordpress is all you need.
      +1. You can do pretty much anything with it & it's easy to use, plus its stable.
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    • Profile picture of the author forganics
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      Originally Posted by ldiaz117 View Post

      Wordpress is all you need.
      Wordpress is a resource hog. The more you can strip out of your WP code the better. Any sites with serious traffic (1M+ visitors/day) would be living a nightmare, or at least seriously be overpaying in server costs, if they ran WP out of the box.
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  • Profile picture of the author intergen
    Totally agreed I could care less what my sites were built in - all I want is a site that converts. Mickey Mouse could have coded it in Elf language as long as it gets results I'm good!

    I like Wordpress because I can go into the sites folks have built for me and actually make some changes.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
      I agree: Wordpress is a FANTASTIC platform for a website. Many, many stunning websites are designed on Wordpress. The platform has nothing to do with good design, unless the platform itself interferes with the fundamentals of good design.

      A lot of Warriors are tight on cash and just looking to make some quick extra cash. Unfortunately, this breeds a constant "it's too expensive" mentality, which is a lot more dangerous to their success than they realize. Since they "just want to make some extra cash", they treat it like a hobby and not a business -- i.e. they aren't willing to invest in good web design (and don't understand why it's SO critical).

      I was like a lot of Warriors in this respect. I'm a writer and marketer. I'm NOT a designer and had a "good is good enough" mentality. "Whatever!" was my mantra. Trouble is, as a writer, I didn't even recognize the fundamentals of good design and couldn't hire a good designer! I went through SEVERAL before I got a good designer who did the job right. (An expensive lesson.)

      My mentor had to give me (and my colleagues) what amounted to a stern talking to about being cheap about design -- and why paying $2K-$3K for a good website design was NOT too expensive and is absolutely necessary.

      Among other things, she pointed out that having a good (meaning well-designed) website allows you to compete with the likes of Google, IBM, Coke, etc. You DON'T need employees, office space, etc. You DO need a well-designed website. A good website will give you and your company a LOT of credibility right out the gate.

      You really CAN start out on a shoestring (compared to the normal costs of a storefront or office space). Unfortunately, too many people take this to mean that they don't need to spend ANY money at all. (Yes, there are people who can get started for NO money. And you can offer services with little to no upfront cost.) But if you are a serious entrepreneur, you need a well-designed website.

      You simply CAN'T compete (seriously or effectively) with a poorly-designed website.

      I paid $2600 for my current website (not counting the logo I had done at 99Designs.com) (Global Institute of Wellness Entrepreneurs) and I've never been so proud of ANY website I've ever had! I absolutely LOVE it, for a lot of reasons. The design is equal to the design of any Fortune 500 company's site. But it's even better because I understand direct marketing principles, which many, many Fortune 500 companies STILL don't get. I make an irresistible offer and every page of my site contains an opt-in form to continually build my list.

      My mentor's site is also just GORGEOUS (Smart Women Institute | Home for Positive Transformation) and follows all of the principles of the latest, cutting-edge design techniques.

      I also have a matching e-mail newsletter template which is just as gorgeous.

      As for my own website, I had a lot of criteria for it, other than just "good design."

      Color scheme was critically important. I'm B2B and a blue/white color scheme is common for B2B sites. In fact, it's TOO common. I wanted to stay away from it. Since my target audience is health/wellness entrepreneurs, a green/purple color scheme was a good choice. My accent colors are beige, blue and orange. However, I'm NOT a designer and left the exact shades/color palette up to my designer. (My previous shades of green and purple weren't good!)

      Since green is part of my color scheme, I really wanted to stay away from the hypey "make money now!" feel.

      Although I have an abstract figure in my logo, I primarily wanted to stay away from abstract figures on my site, the type that you see a lot in IM. They come across as cheap and cheesy -- which I really wanted to avoid. I just wanted to avoid the overall "IM look" in general.

      I feel I succeeded with getting a gorgeous, professional design which really represents what we're about.

      Folks, we're moving out of the Wild West days of the Internet. Design and being "pretty" DOES matter. Even if unofficially, there are certain uniform standards for good website design and your visitors are deciding whether or not to trust you and do business with you based on your website. A lot of this is unconscious and subliminal. They don't even realize they're doing it. But believe me, they make their buying decisions based on that feeling/intuition. You website is your storefront, office and personal face to the world. It MUST be good!

      Hope that helps!

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      • Profile picture of the author donhx
        Originally Posted by Nightengale View Post


        My mentor had to give me (and my colleagues) what amounted to a stern talking to about being cheap about design -- and why paying $2K-$3K for a good website design was NOT too expensive and is absolutely necessary.


        Michelle
        Yet your mentor's site was very slow to load when I tried it, and looked very "80s."
        Most people can invest from $400-$800 and get a great site that converts.

        When you spend more than that, it is because you want just the "right shade" of green or purple. That eats up a lot of money (thousands sometimes), but simply does not affect the bottom line.

        I would question the advice you got. There is a big move away from the cluttered look of your mentor's site, and the clean, simple look that helps turn visitors into buyers.

        An "effective" site is far more important than a "stunning" site. Often they are mutually exclusive. You want potential clients to focus on the offer, not the "beauty" of the site.
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        • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
          Originally Posted by donhx View Post

          Yet your mentor's site was very slow to load when I tried it, and looked very "80s."
          Most people can invest from $400-$800 and get a great site that converts.

          When you spend more than that, it is because you want just the "right shade" of green or purple. That eats up a lot of money (thousands sometimes), but simply does not affect the bottom line.

          I would question the advice you got. There is a big move away from the cluttered look of your mentor's site, and the clean, simple look that helps turn visitors into buyers.

          An "effective" site is far more important than a "stunning" site. Often they are mutually exclusive. You want potential clients to focus on the offer, not the "beauty" of the site.
          I agree completely, and anyway "beauty" is highly subjective. I checked the mentor's "gorgeous" site too and found it cluttered like you said. I can't for the life of me understand what about it makes it worth 3 figures to build, let alone 4, especially since it has the look of a Ronco ad.

          Besides the aesthetics, I can't even tell what the site is about from the landing page; I have a choice between 2 unrelated calls to action, neither with a compelling reason given; and one of them being "enter site".

          Has there ever been a lamer call to action than "enter site"? When I see that I always think "don't those geniuses know that's what I wanted when I clicked the link to get here. Why are they making me click again before they'll get to the point?"

          If the person who owns that site was my mentor, and told me they spent $2-3k for it, and that "paying $2K-$3K for a good website design was NOT too expensive and is absolutely necessary", I'd "cheap out" on the cost of mentoring.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    You can use wordpress the free version or purchase a paid theme to make it look even better. I suggest going the paid route. If you really want to get serious paid a designer in the warriors for hire section.
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  • Profile picture of the author jking1
    I prefer my sites on Wordpress because it has inbuilt SEO tools (paid version). There will no need to do extra efforts to rank in Google.
    As you mentioned there are for small local businesses so may be they can t afford big prices for the sites. Install good themes, add there business / services with multiple tabs and they will be OK.
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    • Profile picture of the author Birdi
      you cant go wrong with wordpress.... Google actually likes and prefers wordpress. Your site should be simple, and sends your message across well, as time goes by you can revamp it until it gets to the level you want it... The main thing is that it attracts potential clients.

      Clients want simple websites that attract their customers to either book or buy products/services from them. So they really dont give two hoots about coding etc. End of the day it's all about business for them.

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  • Profile picture of the author reneesbertrand
    You should try to look for some of the good wordpress premium themes i've seen some really good themes which look very professional but doesn't cost you much unless you want to make an e-commerce website you don't need a developer just go with wordpress
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  • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
    I don't think you guys understand why people use Wordpress. It's not just for the blogging platform, it's for the solid PHP.

    Some of the replies here make my head hurt.

    Websites are very rarely hand coded these days; unless you really can't find a plugin that does the job, there is no reason for you to code from scratch.
    Please, please stop...
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    • Profile picture of the author Vlad Romanov
      Originally Posted by Corey Geer View Post

      I don't think you guys understand why people use Wordpress. It's not just for the blogging platform, it's for the solid PHP.

      Some of the replies here make my head hurt.



      Please, please stop...
      Believe me, you make my head hurt also. You need to stop praising Wordpress as a solid PHP platform and for what it really is: a decent blogging platform with a few well written themes.

      Some one who is praising Wordpress to this extent clearly has no idea what solid PHP is.
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      • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
        Originally Posted by Vlad Romanov View Post

        Believe me, you make my head hurt also. You need to stop praising Wordpress as a solid PHP platform and for what it really is: a decent blogging platform with a few well written themes.

        Some one who is praising Wordpress to this extent clearly has no idea what solid PHP is.
        ...Really?

        A "decent" blogging platform? Please, inform me of better platforms since this one is just decent?

        Anyone who doesn't understand the power behind Wordpress for SEO or functionality has no idea what they're talking about or what they're doing.

        A few well written themes.
        A few? There are beyond thousands of well written themes on Wordpress, and a lot of which are great for SEO. There are plenty of responsive themes out there, CSS3/HTML5 ready that are even IE7 compliant, so there are FAR more than a few solid themes for whatever purpose you need.
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        • Profile picture of the author Andylinks
          Originally Posted by Corey Geer View Post

          ...Really?

          A "decent" blogging platform? Please, inform me of better platforms since this one is just decent?

          Anyone who doesn't understand the power behind Wordpress for SEO or functionality has no idea what they're talking about or what they're doing.
          Yes, Just as I suspected. You are the only one who:
          1. Knows what he is doing
          2. Knows what he is talking about

          I guess we all should be grateful that you are here to tell us what to do.
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  • Profile picture of the author BeauJustin
    Been in marketing and web development for 15 years. Take this for what it's
    worth.

    Most clients are interested in having a successful website, not a
    stunning website.

    Focus on finding out what makes a successful website first and foremost. It has
    very little to do with how pretty it is. Just so you know, most of the themes at
    ThemeForest are stunning - and
    totally useless.

    Because they are designed to be beautiful, they are also designed to fail.

    Equally weighted columns, zero contrast on the important offers, beautiful
    scrolling carousels, and other eye-candy, all add to friction of a site.

    Definition: Friction is anything that distracts, disrupts, or blocks the
    visitor from converting.

    Focus on building websites around value. Learn how to formulate and highlight value
    propositions. Find content writers, or become one who understands how to get into the
    visitors head, and meet the criterion visitors are looking for in making a buying decision.

    Wordpress is a spectacular engine. Let no one tell you otherwise. It is so spectacular
    that it allows you, the web developer to focus most on what matters to the customers:
    conversions. Period.

    Watch some of the videos over at Marketing Experiments. Their free content alone
    is enough to set you above and beyond nearly every other designer in your
    local market.

    Good luck man!!
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  • Profile picture of the author primeaque86
    Blogger and Wordpress are great platforms for building a website. I want to emphasize here that Blogger can also be used to build a static page if one knows how to tweak the codes. And of course, Wordpress is the best platform!

    I've been using blogger for almost 2 years, I had just migrated to Wordpress, but I can conclude that Wordpress gives the flexibility to build a stunning blog or website.

    A STUNNING WEBSITE WITHOUT COST

    Learn the basic of HTML and then level up. You can use w3schools.com and learn how to create your own professional design.


    A STUNNING WEBSITE WITH A CHEAP PRICE

    You can use Wordpress and go for the premium membership. You can only control the design (css) of your website once you will upgrade your account.

    SPEND MONEY TO MAKE MONEY

    I have choosen this one. To control everything, you need to spend money. I just got the baby plan for hostgator, install wordpress, use genesis framework and create a child theme!

    There are so many plug-ins that you can use, and most of them are free! Build a stunning website with Wordpress, learn more and you will be surprised.

    There's no limit. Think of something, and see it happens, but note, it will take time if you do the work all by yourself.


    HIRE A WEB DESIGNER TO DO THE WORK, AND JUST SIT AND SEE THE STUNNING RESULT

    Choose hostgator, or any powerful hosting provider, and let someone do the work for you.

    PM me for more help


    Regards,
    Prime
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    • Profile picture of the author rjn682
      Agreed - with Word Press you can make a basic site or make stunning a site. The difference is in the time spent learning how to use it and once learnt you will be churning them out by the dozen.
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  • Profile picture of the author erikdewangga
    why not just wordpress. i think it'll handle all you need...
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  • Profile picture of the author jaydeee
    I am just wondering how a simple and nicely coded website compared with similar wordpress pages? speed and administration?
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Because you do not sound like a super-duper designer or developer YET, for your business site, you can get an impressive and functional site through a WSO, or the websites for sale section of this forum, or hire someone from here to build a custom site (or just help with the parts you can't do yet.)

    For your customers, you have to listen to them AND provide the best site for their business and their skill set. A photographer would likely want more of a "stunning" and functional site (which can be done on Wordpress) than a plumber who just wants leads.

    As you progress in your business, you will probably pick a platform such as Wordpress or Drupal, or what have you, and become expert in that platform. It seems to me that most people only have time to become expert in one platform and such things as PHP, CSS, HTML5...because they have a life to live and a business to grow and run. Also, it's probably not fair to the client to take on a project on a platform which you are not very familiar with. Delays, pay for your training on the new platform...

    Also, you may find yourself in a niche or niches where one platform may serve better than others (arguably). Your choice.

    Finally, as you progress in your business, you will want to forge relationships with coders, designers, photographers, graphic artists, content writers, and copy writers, etc. to provide clients with the needed expertise.

    Good luck to you.

    Dan
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  • Profile picture of the author Onyemere
    In my opinion imaginative ideas and cutting edge software are required to actually create a unique website. The content should be well organized on your site so that customers could be able to get attracted easily. Color choice should be good as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Husacul
    Stunning and bad-ass require a nice amount of cash!
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    Graphic Designer. I bridge the gap between a great story and the audience it needs to reach.

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  • Profile picture of the author cssbros
    If you wanted to build a kickass website design and development service, you have to create an image for yourself, remember your first client would be your own website. Soo If you aren't a designer, I suggest hiring someone who is experienced and professional enough to create your site.

    Hope this helps!

    Goodluck on your chosen endeavor!

    All the best,
    Arman
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