Long Term WordPress Planning?

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Hi Warriors,

I've been hacked before, but a couple of days ago a few of my websites got hacked with malware.

The problem is that my hosting company required me to update my WP & Joomla sites to the latest version, where these older assests were too outdated to be able to upgrade (i.e. Joomla 1.5 isn't compatible with 2.5 & 3.0 etc, and the old WP sites plugins aren't supported in newer versions etc).

Since my host threatened terminating my account if the scripts weren't all updated, I ended up just deleting these sites since they aren't compatible with newer versions - which I can appreciate as the older versions are most prone to getting hacked.

What I'm trying to figure out is this... How do I design a new site for long term use and upgrade?

Plugins come and go - many are security threats... Templates come and go, and only work with the latest versions of the scripts... New versions of the scripts become available which improve security...

So to the best of my knowledge, other than building a static site, the best way to plan for long term successful website (especially a blog which would last for years to come) is to install WordPress only, with no plugins, and use only the default template?

Any thoughts?:confused:

Thanks,
Randall
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  • Profile picture of the author RCheesley
    Sadly if you want to use a CMS you will need to update them. Even a vanilla Wordpress or Joomla! install will require periodic updates.

    For reference, Joomla! 1.5.26 remains stable and secure ... you would have been fine with the latest version of that branch assuming your extensions are also up to date.

    You could outsource the updating, but otherwise it is a case of keeping in the loop and applying updates I'm afraid!

    Ruth
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    • Profile picture of the author ActionToCash
      Ok - well, I certainly appreciate your feedback Ruth.

      CMS's are great, but I guess static websites have their place as well

      Kind regards,

      Randall
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  • Profile picture of the author imoffersonline
    its so sad ..... avoid extra plugin or too much dependent on plugins . and keep up to date your wp versioin. wp is more secure than joomla.
    wp for long term is a good idea . wp is easy to handle , modify,backup.
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    ^^ the above post while "linguistically challenged" a bit it has one of the most important answers: the over-use of plugins is more likely to create vulnerabilities than the occasional late upgrade.

    However, as always, the issue is not as clear-cut as we like them to be.
    There were major WP releases (major is e.g. v9 or 9.4; minor would be v8.3.5) that had a security holes right from the moment of being released.
    On the other hand some minor releases - they are, usually, bugfixes - were so stable and secure that I was very reluctant to upgrade to the next major version until they ironed out all the bugs...

    What I am trying to say:
    - mechanical, blind upgrade to every "new" (shiny?) version is NOT always good!
    - wait until the next minor release, when the bugs are fixed (based on users' feedback) and do the upgrade then
    - use the minimal number of plugins: the majority of plugin coders are morons and/or enthusiastic do-gooders - do NOT trust them!

    I do have WP sites (don't know enough about Joomla to have an opinion) since 2004 and 2005 running even today, never hacked. Which might be luck, I admit. I am a "slow upgrader" - meaning always a few small steps behind the dernier cri. Plugin minimalist: only from trusted sources and exclusively when there is no other solution for that feature. Themes either done by myself or by the best trusted designers/coders.

    And yes, hosts do that: with another, by now defunct CMS, they also told me to take the site off and when I wasn't fast enough... they did.
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  • Profile picture of the author RCheesley
    Any time Joomla! release an update which has the words 'security release' in them, you need to update immediately. Nowadays, incremental updates (e.g. 2.5.8 to 2.5.9) are done at the click of a button (literally) and they do not change anything by way of the templates or anything like that.

    Anything involving a different first number, e.g. 1.5 to 2.5, 2.5 to 3.0, generally needs a bit more by way of planning to ensure that you know what you're doing, as often there are larger changes involved. For more information please check out: Understanding the Joomla release cycle,

    Wordpress have their own release cycle which is here WordPress › About » Roadmap.

    Of course you should still take a backup and test the backup before doing any updates, just to be sure.

    Saying Wordpress is more secure than Joomla! without any data to back that up is completely unhelpful - on what basis are you making that statement, the number of zero day vulnerabilities or the number of security updates that have been released? In relation to the number of sites that use the CMS, or just the numbers? The number of insecure extensions, or the number of sites that you yourself have had compromised? Or maybe something someone once told you?

    If you're going to make such bold sweeping statements, back them up with facts please

    Ruth
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    • Profile picture of the author so11
      Choosing well known providers is an important part of your business continuity planning...

      That's why most of the time, choosing a known provider with support (and paying for it) is much better than installing free stuff on your site.

      Think continuity vs. quick wins!
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  • Profile picture of the author naoshad
    I think you can partner with some well reputed freelancer or with a company who will take care of your website.
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