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I am part website designer, part freelance writer I cannot see to grasp the concept of CSS. I do fine using HTML but when something with CSS comes around, I just can't seem to get it right. I've used w3schools and still have issues, anyone have any places I can use for backup?
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  • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
    Originally Posted by DesignWarrior View Post

    I am part website designer, part freelance writer I cannot see to grasp the concept of CSS. I do fine using HTML but when something with CSS comes around, I just can't seem to get it right. I've used w3schools and still have issues, anyone have any places I can use for backup?
    Join the club.

    I done a CSS course and grasped it perfectly.

    So I move forth to learn about slicing photshop tempaltes up and turning them into a website.

    Only to find the CSS i had just learned CSS2 was not used in one single tutorial.

    It has me totally confused.. so much so I have to now go back to the start of my CSS2 course to learn it again.

    Still doesn't help though because I don't understand why people aren't using CSS2 when it's suppposed to be the standard.
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    • Profile picture of the author DesignWarrior
      OH MY GOSH, you are kidding me? I don't feel nearly as pathetic now but HELLO when did all this happen. I have been in HTML land and I think I will go back there and leave the CSS/CSS2 to those who are a bit more easily educated than myself. I thought learning HTML was the best thing I could do... Glad I taught myself so I'm not out any money. Let me know if you find a light at the end of the tunnel please!
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      • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
        Originally Posted by DesignWarrior View Post

        OH MY GOSH, you are kidding me? I don't feel nearly as pathetic now but HELLO when did all this happen. I have been in HTML land and I think I will go back there and leave the CSS/CSS2 to those who are a bit more easily educated than myself. I thought learning HTML was the best thing I could do... Glad I taught myself so I'm not out any money. Let me know if you find a light at the end of the tunnel please!
        It seems that CSS is mystyfied by all the people whom have found a way to use less code and do more with it.

        In the course I learned..

        I was learning to use

        left: 20%
        top%25

        So that would position whatever the id was, 25% from the top of the page and 20% from the left.

        Howver I think that is how it is supposed to be done just people have found ways around it.

        My plan is to make my own photshop template and take my own learning forth to make it work for me.

        As I don't think I want to go back and learn more and get more confused.

        I'll let you know the results.

        In the mean time you might want to check out

        westciv - tools & resources for web professionals they have cool CSS courses you can learn from.
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        • Profile picture of the author Adi E
          When I was a newbie I found the Sitepoint books good,
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          • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
            Here is the best way to learn CSS and it's how I learned it.
            Download a free XHTML template from one of the Open Source Communities such as Get Free Web Designs and take it apart. Study how the designer made the CSS work with the XHTML and experimently make your own changes to it. I belong to several such communities as it's a great way to learn new web design tricks and meet great helpful people.

            Also challenge yourself and see if you can create a work of art by participating at css Zen Garden . (advanced but worth a shot)

            CSS is really not hard. The biggest challenge is to get a design to be compatible with all browsers.
            I wish you all the best success in learning CSS.
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            • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
              Design Warrior I recommend the course at WestCiv it is seriously the best I found for anyone, you'll not be let down with it...

              I've now disovered my problems, and that is trying to copy other peoples methods when really I should use my own until they are perfected.

              After you do the course get this

              CSS Cheat Sheet

              and you are well on your way to becoming a CSS expert because it isn't all that hard.

              Good Luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author DesignWarrior
    I already feel like I've accomplished something just from reading everyone's replies. Thank you, all, for taking the time to read my post and send me tips. I am book marking and reading and hope to better educate myself and become literate in CSS! You guys rock!
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  • Profile picture of the author stonerpreneur
    CSS rubs me the wrong way. HTML4LYF lolz
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    • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
      Originally Posted by stonerpreneur View Post

      CSS rubs me the wrong way. HTML4LYF lolz
      Stonerpreneur hehe, smoking that might make you worse off so I'd be careful.

      Yes HTML is cool, but theres nothing like having control over CSS as you can get temapltes designed in photoshop for cheap but when you start asking for them to be coded with CSS you run into more costs than you really need to pay.
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      • Profile picture of the author DesignWarrior
        Originally Posted by Intrepreneur View Post

        Stonerpreneur hehe, smoking that might make you worse off so I'd be careful.

        Yes HTML is cool, but theres nothing like having control over CSS as you can get temapltes designed in photoshop for cheap but when you start asking for them to be coded with CSS you run into more costs than you really need to pay.
        Yet again, another excellent point. You can't live with it, can't live without it. The best and worst of both worlds. I am researching, will hopefully learn this stuff and accomplish a task I've been at for years.
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  • Profile picture of the author phanio
    CSS is great. Why keep repeating or overusing HTML - when you can have a simple CSS code source do it all for you. Less code and much, much easier to update or change. Once i learned CSS - there was no going back.
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  • Profile picture of the author ayolov
    The problem is that each browser has slight differences (IE BIG differences) so you end up with css for each, at least that's what I do, one css for IE7, another for IE6 and another for the rest, takes longer but makes changes faster on complex sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author DesignWarrior
      Originally Posted by ayolov View Post

      The problem is that each browser has slight differences (IE BIG differences) so you end up with css for each, at least that's what I do, one css for IE7, another for IE6 and another for the rest, takes longer but makes changes faster on complex sites.
      How crazy is that!? I hate IE, haven't used it every since I found out there were other options many years ago. It looks like I have a mighty long road ahead of me to travel... Wish me luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author mybath
    CSS is also good for search engine optimization. With CSS there is less code and attributes and whatnot for the search engine spider to search through.
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  • Profile picture of the author tloomis999
    I would also like to recommend a sitepoint book, "Build Your Own Website the Right Way Using HTML & CSS" by Ian Loyd. Another excellent resource is the HTML Dog website. He has free hands on tutorials on HTML and CSS. They start at beginner and go onto intermediate and advanced levels.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen Saha
    I agree with Karen, the best way to learn CSS is by experimenting with an existing Template that uses CSS code. First try changing the 'values', then the 'parameters' and then start writing your own 'class', 'id' etc. You will find its not that hard.

    Using DreamweaverCS3 will make things much easier for you bcoz it will provide you with all the possible CSS codes as simple dropdowns

    Stephen
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