Daniel Brock

Here's the problem with everyone complaining in this post...

You are chasing the ever fleeting magic bullet fix that will some how make your lives different without having to do anything.

What they are selling you is proven techniques that work....but they are not so glamorous as the sales page makes them out to be.

It's called hype people...get used to it. We're in the internet marketing business. Know that what you read on any finely crafted sales page is about 25% accurate to what the product is really like.

Christian Sawyer

Daniel,

You couldn't be more wrong. It's posts like this that will have this thread locked very soon, so I'll give my opinion while I can.

There is a HUGE difference, I can't stress that word enough in this case, between "hyping" up your product, and it being a plain out "LIE"!

The claims in this offer are insane, such as "traffic methods that you have never heard of", and George even stating that he has never heard of these methods. Then you look at the product, and you know that you have been LIED to. It's not cool, and actually, illegal.

It has nothing to do with people chasing that "ever fleeting magic bullet fix", it's the fact that these marketers are promising, in this case, "unheard of traffic sources." If you are a smart marketer, then you should be willing to invest in this product because it will show you NEW traffic methods that you can add on top of the ones you currently use. The level of expertise one has, or status, is irrelevant.

That's my take on this situation, and I'm sure a lot of people agree.

-Christian

Jeremy Kelsall

lol

Did you already get into the launch sequence or is your turn coming up?

I've seen you defending this stuff now for about a month or so trying to imply somehow that the things going on are fine and dandy.

There not...They are the furthest thing from it.

It's lies before you even buy the product. Only XXX available, and then bragging that you've sold 6,000 copies?

Unheard of strategies when most of them are in $7 WSO's?

Brand new product when it is a rebrand of a product that is what...a year or 2 old?

There is nothing wrong with being aggressive and going for the loot, but Jesus dude, stop hanging from these guys nuts or you are going to get crabs.

If people have to resort to doing crap like this to sell some information products, I am really considering whether or not they actually make a whole lot of money actually putting their own information and strategies to use.

In my life, I hope I am never hard up for some cash to try and pull **** like this to sell my products to the masses. While you are defending what they are doing, it is launches like this, the lies, and the deceptions that are going to force regulation into our industry on a scale that I don't think any of us want. Then we will have all of these millionaire ebook launchers to thank for it.

Thanks guys (sarcasm)

Daniel Brock

To be clear, I am not an affiliate for this product, nor do I plan to be, so I have nothing to gain by defending it - and I never was defending it in the first place, just giving my observation based from a lot of the comments here.

"Traffic tactics you've never heard of before..."

What's wrong with saying that? I'm sure there are a good number of people who buy the course who will learn a good deal. Isn't that considered 'unheard of' tactics for that person?

There's no way a sales letter can somehow magically read your mind and know that you already know these techniques....And if you already know them, that is what the refund policy is for, no?

As for the 250 copies left thing, I don't really agree with that tactic but I don't think that should be the reason why someone should judge this product negatively...

I'm still going to stand by my statement and say that a lot of the people who bought into this were looking for that magic bullet that doesn't exist. The sales letter catered to that emotion, as do most of the successful sales letters out there. Is it wrong to do that?

I don't think so because I'm sure there are plenty of people who learned just one or two techniques to get them to their next income levels....That would certainly count as a magic bullet to that type of person, no?

Jeremy Kelsall

Dan,

Nothing is wrong with having a good sales letter...and the sales letter for this product was indeed pretty damn good.

I'm not saying that it's wrong to play on emotions, because let's face it, that is a HUGE part of sales whether you are selling ebooks or cars.

What I'm saying is, over the past couple of months the launches have gotten more "desperate" is the best word I can think of. I've never seen such a backlash, and flurry of blog posts go up trashing products, and their creators, and I think that a large part of that has to do with the dishonest and "sneaky" approach that is being used far too much here lately.

palpatine

Ok, so I’ve read most of the reviews on this page and agree with most people’s opinion that this was definitely marketed to us in an unethical manner.

First of all, I’m glad that everyone who wants a refund will be able to get one quickly from Clickbank, but seriously, I have just one question for anyone who purchased it:

Did you only purchase this product out of sheer curiosity with the sole intention of returning it immediately after your suspicions were confirmed upon sign up?

I mean c’mon, we all have a BS meter built in, and certainly it was triggered when you watched that 45 minute garbage video they (George and Mark or whoever) put out.

There was not one valuable piece of content, not one little tiny nugget of info in that video.

First Red Flag - I was sent an email from a marketers list I was on, I won’t mention their names, to watch this video and you won’t believe how George gets this “Secret Affiliate to reveal all” in this “Content Packed, Nothing to Buy Video”………I’m serious, that’s what the email said.

Needless to say, I immediately removed myself from their list.

Second Red Flag - I also left a comment for George and Mark, nothing too bad, just saying that this video was supposed to have some valuable information and – where is it? They quickly removed my comment.

No need to look for anymore Red Flags after this one - When I saw the “limited to only 250 copies” nonsense and the price tag was only $67, Really, is there anything else to think about?

I mean even with continuity attached there was only some very simple math to do before realizing that this was a totally bogus, hyped up, dare I say…….Scam.

Why would a guy making $4000 a day, $120,000 a month, be trying to make a maximum of $16,750 from a product launch? (That’s not factoring in what he has to pay his affiliates)

Sure they attached a small continuity, $47 or so, but how many people will keep it?

You’re still talking about a relatively small amount of money, for someone used to making over 100k a month already. And now he’s going to reveal his secrets and share all this knowledge so that he can cut his paycheck down to a small fraction of what it was because everyone else is going to use his magical methods.

Bottom line here and the point I am trying to make is: I’m no genius, just someone who used a little deductive reasoning or common sense and didn’t buy this product.

I’m actually surprised that there are all these posts from people who did.

As a person who has purchased several high-ticket courses over the last year, I can honestly say that I feel that most of them HAVE been marketed honestly and ethically. I’m not sure which launches by the “Big Gurus” that some of the other commenters are referring to when they say that they used similar tactics to this Traffic Siphon.

I haven’t returned any of these products either as they have all delivered, or over-delivered, on their promises and content.
Like the rest of you, I’m all for Fair marketing, appealing to emotions, whatever. I just don’t like to be blatantly lied to like these guys did. I hope someone does follow up with the FTC and report these guys.

I hope I haven’t offended anyone with this post (If I have, I apologize), the last thing I’m trying to do is belittle or insult anyone, I just don’t understand, with all these red-flags, why anyone would actually purchase this product.

Please, If I’ve missed something, or if any of you feel I’m way off base here, let me have it. This post got much longer than I originally intended it to be, so sorry for the rant.

And Dan, sorry man, but your original comments are way out of line. Hype is one thing, but bold faced lies by marketers to other marketers shouldn’t be tolerated. Where’s the honor?