Anyone Try Video Vantage?

i like to know this as well

My concern is that is whether or not it violates any YouTube TOS. The last thing I want to do is lose my Youtube account. Google is starting to slowly back away from backlinking as ranking factor so I am not sure how well this type of software is going to hold-up over the long haul.

The video they created for keyword "make money on ebay" is not ranking on first 3 to 4 pages i checked. I am getting doubt that the claims they are making are genuine. I welcome any honest reviews on the product so that one can make a decision....

I echo sohosources' concerns. I also noticed that the sample vids are from early 2013. This is 2014. Where are more recent success stories?

Can you guys think of any video ranking software that has been out for more than a few months that still works?... Anyone....

Lots of software to upload the videos and automate basic stuff but when it comes to actually ranking the videos that is where things start to fall apart.

I want to buy it but just can't bring myself to pull the trigger because like I said I cannot think of any video ranking software that worked for very long after they launched.

The above listed concerns are ones that I have as well. The tool looks great, but what is it's product life?

I have purchased other products that sounded great and had potential, but the creator did not support them, so I am jaded when it comes to any tools/plugins.

Anyone else buy or use this tool?

I bought the Pro version today($47), got a Death by Captcha account with 5k of Captchas to be solved($13.95) and the Spin Rewriter account($59 per year).

This thing has stopped working/ crashed with errors 6 times when posting to Wiki and PR sites. Have not heard from support yet but don't know how they can fix it without issuing another build. Sucks.

Looks like I'm going to have to do Xrumer or Magic Submitter after all.

We'll see if they refund me. They claim to have 30 days to get it working before they refund you as well.

This is the last time I ever buy something like this on a launch. We're paying to be beta testers.

Sorry to hear this....

I wonder if others are getting the same "results"?

I hope that you get your refund and that they get these bugs worked out.

Too bad....sounded promising.

I have a question, if you could somehow snap your fingers and have a piece of software that would truly rank for major keywords like how to lose weight would it be more profitable for you to keep the software semi-private and use it for affiliate offers and straight up seo services knowing full well that you are taking a chance of Google catching onto the software and destroying it's ability to rank if you went ahead and sold the software to the public where you would have to deal with all of the customer service headaches also. I believe that if the software worked good you would actually make more money keeping it private but if the software was buggy and you knew it would have a short life span that it would be more profitable to sell it for as much as possible.

Seems to me that is the big question and it appears more often then not to be just what happens. Let's wait and see how this one plays out.

Thanks for saving me $$ on this one, fellow warriors. Think I'll pass ...

My advice is to not only NOT buy this, but unsubscribe from the mailing lists of everyone promoting it.

My sad gratitude to the unfortunate paying-for-the-privilege beta testers involved in this one, thoughtful enough to report back to us. You've saved us from lost time and lost money, and maybe a lot if it meant getting whacked by youtube. Which sounds kinda plausible, but probably not too likely given how poorly the program works.

You can just tell by the amount of (in my opinion) unethical marketers offering bonuses for this, that the front end price is but a fraction of all the upsells after you hit the buy button. Am actively unsubscibing from a bunch of them.

Let me tell you this,, my 2 cents.

I got this 3 days ago and I can't even get it to work on my computer. I have been constantly TRYING to send support tickets but they don't allow more than 2 a day and they haven't come even close to answering the questions I ask.

It sounds super cool in theory but, no, the claims have yet to be seen. I also got all the add-ons that they recommended, so I paid for all this extra stuff and the SOFTWARE doesn't even work. So, I'm sure they made those commissions though and are counting the dollars as you read this.

Basically, what I'm saying is I wish I would've come here 1st. I've even created videos while waiting for this pile of CRAP gets fixed. I'm ready to go, the extras are ready to go, everything else is ready to go but the SOFTWARE!!!! And I'm still waiting for their response to my emails. A whole 1 a day. And no answers. This sucks goat balls too 'cause I was all motivated and totally excited,, but like most products in IM,, it's freakin' garbage.

I say, DON'T BUY!!! And, If I can scream this from the rooftops I will!
What A total disappointment.

Please tell your friends and family !!! Everybody unite and ask for a refund all at the same time!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so pissed at these Mo Fo's

Robert Cottom.

p.s DON'T BUY THIS OR OTHER THINGS FROM THESE BOZOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Based on the sales letter the backlinks come from high pr blog comments in your niche?

That method does NOT work. 99% of blogs are moderated by the owners. So if you submit 20 blog comments maybe 1 will actually get approved and go live. The rest will never go live.

Complete waste of time.

If you want to rank youtube vids, you will have to buy expiring domains with PR. Then link back to your youtube vid with them.

Forget the blog commenting nonsense.

Done.

Matthew Woodward has just published part 3 of his YouTube marketing guide which is far more beneficial that spending time on Video Vantage.

YouTube Marketing & Optimization Part 3 - Link Building & Google Ranking

(be sure to check out parts 1 & 2 aswell)

well, all I can say it that I would have like to test the software. I purchased it so that I could test it before I sent it to my members. I never received the license key and all of my request for them to send it has been completely ignored. So, at this point they have my money and it looks like they are going to keep it. That is very disappointing. Hopefully for everyone else this is a isolated issue but the fact that they flat out ignore the request for assistance is enough for me to day I couldn't recommend this purchase.

Keep in mind this is just my experience.

FWIW - I checked out the LINKS for the youtube video, most were just spammy comments you could get with scrapebox etc - just get a good auto approve list of PR blogs you can plug into scrape box and blast that a few times - you'll probably get the same results.

Granted, the results ARE impressive for those rankings - however it can be done with other software too

I filed a dispute with paypal and the company approved it right away.. 24 HOURS

Day 4 in the Video Vantage Fiasco

As I write this, I am also writing them to let them know what their customer think. I came here to get the link to this thread so they can see what the people are saying. When I say something I like to make a point and I think this will get my point across.

It's day 4 and they are still only answering 1 email per day, otherwise they block you! And they send me answers to questions I ain't even asking or what I have tried already to fix my problem. Not ONE thing has gone right with them. Sorry if you got excited and this thread busted your bubble but I wish I had seen this 1st.

And like I said above, I've been doing this a long time, 10 years or so, (been here 4) and I know a lot of programs and systems that actually do work. Right after I post here I'm gonna finish my refund and get back to my site (the name UNDER my pic name and above my "war room member" display) and will be giving you some killer free info about IM'ing.

So back to getting this link here to post it into my refund request. Bye for now but don't buy this product. I wish a had 2 more sets of hands so I could give it 4 thumbs down!

Robert Cottom

One more thing! Here's the exact email I just sent them 30 seconds ago:

Well, after 4 days of trying to get this set up, I'm calling it quits! I can't get any information that I ask for from support. I have found a post on The Warrior Forum that talks about this so called "product" and not one person on the thread has anything good to say, and that's out of 50 posts. I wish I had gone there 1st and not wasted 4 days and all this time trying to get this so called product up and running!

Every person is going to ask for a refund. But I'm sure that'll take forever too. But at least I can go bring up a claim with Paypal, haha, or my bank and cancel the transaction. The people have spoken! Go see what they are saying, I will even give you the link:http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...ml#post8968398

Have fun reviewing the bad press.

Robert Cottom
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p.s. Maybe you can answer my one email allowed for the day, and here's my demand; I want a refund!!!!

Wow! When I asked for a refund I got a quick response. Here it is:
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Robert Cottom,

A customer support staff member has replied to your support request, #484445 with the following response:

Hey,

Could you please clarify further on the issues your having with Video Vantage that I could have helped you with or passed on to my developer to personally fix for you? Were there any questions or issues I could have helped you solve?

With regards to refunding, please reference the guarantee included on our sales page - "We offer the 30 day policy to protect you against non-delivery, or the product not being as described. Because this is a digital software product with license keys that can be revoked should a refund occur, it's not subject to refunds for any other reasons other than the ones stated above. Non-valid refund claims include no longer wanting or using the product."

However if you still wish to still get a refund, please be aware that your license key will be revoked, which means you won't be able to use the software again. Also remember, you have the full support of the Video Vantage team and any problems you may be having with the software/training, you can just let us know and we will do our best to resolve the issue!

Thanks and let me know.
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So basically, they are asking AGAIN, what's the problem? They don't seem to understand that it doesn't work AT ALL!! They make it seem as though I'M doing something wrong and that since they delivered the product that their part is done. Believe me, I truly have been spending the 4 days I claim trying to get this to work. But, I only can waste so much time fixing their problem. I'm not the only one with this same problem!

Sorry for so many posts, but this frustrated me,, (boo hoo, dammit!)

p.s. Revoke the crap outta my license key!!!

For now, throwing backlinks at youtube videos works. But I think in the future, Google will slap those methods.

The software keeps crashing on me as well. I did not expect miracles, but I did expect a reputable product due to the fact that Chris Winters was promoting this and offering a follow up bonus training. Why would you risk your reputation, not to mention your paypal account on something that does not work? Too many charge backs and paypal will shut them down. I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt here... maybe it's just launch problems? I also emailed Chris Winters and will be interested to hear his thought on this.

Wow so glad I found this thread, saved my money, no wonder I am getting bombarded with affiliate offers for this product, must be one hell of a JV contest, maybe car and cash for best JV's, so they blast the hell out of their list until you unsubscribe.....

I'm sure that this thread is helping a lot of people - way to go guys!
One thing I'm doing is unsubscribing from anyone who promotes this to me

- it's a shame to see marketers start out hungry and helpful and end up promoting junk

- the results of marketing to a list that trusts you must be almost irresistible because over the years I've seen it happen again and again and again.

Can you please explain how your able to find out how many copies they sold?

Hey gang,

I bought this product as it sounded promising (obviously too good to be true). I want to get a refund but I'm not sure how to go about it? Instructions state refunds are handled by the "product vendor" Devin Zander.

I opened a ticket with Money-Mindset.net Support and asked for a refund? Not sure if I went about this the right way but If anyone can confirm whether I did this properly that would be appreciated!

Any suggestions?

Thanks ahead of time

No seller wants to take a chance of paypal closing their account because of too many complaints. Paypal is no fan of internet marketers to begin with. A software that does not work is certainly within the parameters of paypal's refund policy. I've had to refund as an affiliate when a customer simply could not figure out a simple download. While their complaint had nothing to do with the software I was promoting, there was no way I was going to argue with them and risk my account. If the software is truly not working, I think paypal will refund.
I'm trying to give the seller the benefit of the doubt and some time to fix the problems, but so far even the basic account set up function keeps crashing.

Wow, I almost purchased this product but decided to wait until hubby gets home
so we could decide together. I'm sure glad I came in here and saw all this!

Thanks to all of you for your comments! I won't waste my money...

the software freezes alot. the developer should fix this problem and then it would be a great product!

I like to thank everyone that took the time to come back here and give their honest real life review of how the product is working and how the so called Customer service is handling the complaints.. This kind of stuff has been going on way too long around here. Buyers are forbidden to complain about anything on the sales thread in fear of disrupting sales when in all realty, products like these should be closed down when they do not deliver as promised. Especially when people are not getting a response to their refund requests.

Support has not ignored anyone and if you want a refund all you have to do is put in a ticket

I will try this

1. all you noobie and even pro internet marketers should have a SPAM warrior account. this account should forward all the crappy WF "gurus" SPAM.
2. if you notice at least 2 WF "gurus" handing out bonus' hand over foot for the same product, don't buy it, this is a surefire sign that it's pure Pump and Dump.
3. Guess what, you're the intended Dump

This is really the best proactive way to flesh crap products (in this case a badly made bot) with incredible upsells, "4 da commissionz"

i also bought this piece of crap software 3 days ago too. The Get PR Links module brings back mostly few urls to post on for all the different Link Types and also mostly of those urls it brings back are not well related to the keywords being searched for (even for big keywords like weight loss and lose weight).

I had the Get PR Links module of this software working for a little while and it did actually post. but the succes rate (comments being posted on blogs) was unfortunately very low. Most of these comments will not get approved/deleted later on because they will be considered irrelevant bullshit that's spammy. Adding an anchor text with your keyword in the comment, no picture associated with your email id and having spun content by spin rewriter will also make your comments more unlikely to get approved.

That being said, at this moment the software keeps crashing on me constantly when i run the post blog comments feauture.

I am very frustrated about all of this as i really was expecting much good things from this software. I really trusted Devin and his little toyboy Wyatt to deliver a great product. But (toy)boy, was i ever wrong!

Recently they have kicked me out of there fb group for giving my honest opinion about their Video Scamtage software. I wasnt even complaining about it in their own fb group and still they think its ok to kick me out. What a joke!

Also their disinterested, unethical and stupid support handling of my issues with this software enfuriates me even more.

This is going to be turning out to be the same fiasco as with SEO Zen by those scam homies of his (Becker, Cass & Miah).

Read that fiasco here http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...en-review.html

I just got my refund through PayPal...They did want to know why before doing so. I told them it freezes and crashes. Make sure you tell that it does not work as described

It's garbage... don't waste your money.

Nick

As with any big launch, there will always be a small minority of customers who are having issues with the software, however we're actively trying our best to solve these issues accordingly.

We're aware of a few minor bugs that our team is working around the clock to fix, even though we tested it extensively before launching, it was still prone for it to have a few bugs. We care about our customers before anything else and we're committed to helping them make the best use of our product.

As for support tickets nobody is being ignored and we've got 4 full time staff members working around the clock trying to get back to everyone as quick as possible

I hope I was the one that got that sovereignn dude to come here. (I posted the link in an email to support) I figured he had to be a partner of something related to the "crap" because he was THE only one trying to say anything good.:p

Anyway, I am waiting just a few days to see if they can get their marbles together and get the bugs fixed. I will give them a short break, BUT, it is true, you have to buy other things that are yearly $ and I didn't know that Spinners are against Google rules.

And another damn thing, This thing also asked me to go into my computer to make alterations, AND I even changed my details in one of my Youtube accounts to try to get it to work. (guess what,, none of that worked)

Did i happen to mention that I wished I had another set of hands? So I could give it 4 thumbs down! Booyah!!!

And whoever asked if it was 4 days when I posted,,, I say, 2 days,, 4 days,, what's the difference when it's like 5 days later and the crap still ain't shaken it's booty? When "I" buy a product, I EXPECT the mo fo to work right outta the gate. I ain't got no time for all that business. Shooot!!! I work on the infernet BOOOOOYYYYY!!! (yes, inFernet)


Robert Cottom=
Another awesome post from your infernet marketing guru,, you're welcome.
Even us major guru's get taken for a ride from time to time

I did not buy this, I have bought so much crap how did I miss this ,lol, but I have not had a problem getting a refund for a product sold thru JVZOO in the past.

I received a email on it today and checked here first, thank goodness

But these guys seamed to anticipate a lot of refunds so they have made it hard to get.

If you used Paypal they will help but I would blast jvzoo for help also

It surprises me how so many "internet marketers" still try and game the system. It never works... or if it does, it's short lived. You risk putting your accounts with YouTube, Amazon or whatever your choice is for marketing your product or services.

Don't you believe the brains at Google or Amazon are smarter than two "kids" using black hat methods to make a fast buck? These companies are 100 steps ahead of these guys. Seriously, if you really look at the basis of this product, you could see it is a setup for failure.

Here is the bottom line - work on building your internet marketing business the right way.... through hard work and dedication. There are some very good products in the Warrior and I've purchased a few myself. However, try and cure yourself from "shiny object syndrome."

Quit trying to take shortcuts on being successful in this business. Step your game up!

i actually messaged one of those "leaders" to ask them if they actually used the product before promoting it. I got the message of no I haven't but I know people who have. I went ahead and them him that he should look into it cause the program isn't working as told....

Are you saying you actually got this thing working??

So glad I found this thread. I was just about to buy it and try it.
I'll wait to see what others that have already bought it have to say about it.
Never saw one mention of having to have a spinrewriter account to make this work, either!

Refunds shoudl be requested through JVzoo. See the following

JVZoo.com's Policies, Terms and User Agreements

This was the response when asking for a refund ..
Will just let paypal deal with it .
IT DOES NOT WORK ...

A customer support staff member has replied to your support request, #718295 with the following response:

Thank you for contacting The Video Vantage Support Team.

We offer a 30 day guarantee on the Video Vantage software and as it's stated on the sales letter, the policy is only valid if all of the conditions are met. To reiterate, refunds are subject to the product not being as described, not being delivered (see below), or not working the way we advertised.

We have a zero tolerance policy for "tire kickers", or "freebie seekers", people who just want to benefit out of the year long work Video Vantage was created without paying for a top quality product that brings results.

I'm glad I looked here! Thanks guys!

Like another poster said -- basically "Video Vantage" has now - suddenly - become "TAIL BETWEEN LEGS."

The site has suddenly shut down - maybe because all the "townspeople" are rushing towards the castle carrying pitchforks and torches!

It's really sad. Pitiful -- and we "let" it happen, in a way.
It takes 2 -- the CON-er, and the CON-ee.

They may have been run out of town, but they still have criminal-like EGOS!
The suddenly shut-down site now says...

"The Video Vantage Sale Is Now Over... Thanks for making us one of the best selling softwares of all time"

In other words -- "Ummm... GOTTA GO NOW, THE JIG IS UP!"

Carpetbaggers!!!

It does not work! Full of bugs.

I have asked for a refund but no reply! I will contact Paypal now.

Look at the reply I got when I asked Video Vantage for a refund.

"Thank you for contacting The Video Vantage Support Team.
We offer a 30 day guarantee on the Video Vantage software and as it's stated on the sales letter, the policy is only valid if all of the conditions are met. To reiterate, refunds are subject to the product not being as described, not being delivered (see below), or not working the way we advertised.
We have a zero tolerance policy for "tire kickers", or "freebie seekers", people who just want to benefit out of the year long work Video Vantage was created without paying for a top quality product that brings results.
Reasons such as: "I don't want it anymore", "it's not for me", "the content is nothing new", "I need the money back for medical bills", or similar semantics, are not valid reasons for refunds.
However, if you're requesting a refund because the software isn't working the way it should, it will be granted only after The Video Vantage Support Team has failed to help with the problems you're having with it. The Video Vantage Team reserves the right to deem an issue unsolvable, however, it will always be with honesty and within reason.
Another valid reason for refund also includes a double purchase, which will need to be submitted to the Accounting Team within the same support system, to verify the double purchase.
Lastly, Video Atlas, Video Vantage's upsell, does not have a refund guarantee for any reason, as it's cutting edge training, and digitally delivered 100% of the time, also falls within the above "freebie seeker" criteria, and PayPal backs up the "no refunds on digital products" policy."

Stay away from this software!!!!!

Like all the other posters before me. I wish I had done my due diligence before making the purchase. Again, I went off of the recommendations of people I thought were of higher integrity. After this I am longer subscribed to their list. This may be helpful to the others who are seeking a refund. This is the email I received from support earlier this morning. I am sure they are getting tired of copying and pasting this to the other 14,000 customers too.. But if you have not tired to get a refund yet, here is what to expect

Thank you for contacting The Video Vantage Support Team.

We offer a 30 day guarantee on the Video Vantage software and as it's stated on the sales letter, the policy is only valid if all of the conditions are met. To reiterate, refunds are subject to the product not being as described, not being delivered (see below), or not working the way we advertised.

We have a zero tolerance policy for "tire kickers", or "freebie seekers", people who just want to benefit out of the year long work Video Vantage was created without paying for a top quality product that brings results.

Reasons such as: "I don't want it anymore", "it's not for me", "the content is nothing new", "I need the money back for medical bills", or similar semantics, are not valid reasons for refunds.

However, if you're requesting a refund because the software isn't working the way it should, it will be granted only after The Video Vantage Support Team has failed to help with the problems you're having with it. The Video Vantage Team reserves the right to deem an issue unsolvable, however, it will always be with honesty and within reason.

Another valid reason for refund also includes a double purchase, which will need to be submitted to the Accounting Team within the same support system, to verify the double purchase.

Lastly, Video Atlas, Video Vantage's upsell, does not have a refund guarantee for any reason, as it's cutting edge training, and digitally delivered 100% of the time, also falls within the above "freebie seeker" criteria, and PayPal backs up the "no refunds on digital products" policy.

DELIVERABILITY: Should the system not the deliver your login details in time, a ticket must be submitted to the support team, to be answered within 24-48 business hours with a temporary username and password, the reset of his or her account, or a new username and password issued by the support team.

In the event that the system server doesn't respond promptly, the customer agrees that some technical issues may happen, and will give The Video Vantage Team 72 hours to resolve the issue to deliver the product. If the product is not delivered after that period, the customer has a valid reason to request a refund if the support team has not answered their ticket and updated the customer with the status of the situation.

We thank you again for depositing your trust in us, and we're working very hard to help you achieve your business and SEO goals with Video Vantage, and The Video Vantage Support Team will ensure the aforementioned, for as long as you own the product.

If you're having problems to make Video Vantage work, we look forward to your inquiry to help you get the software working and get you the results you're looking for.

If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate in contacting us, we're here to help.

Sincerely,
The Video Vantage Team

The affiliate offer on Jvzoo for Video Vantage is gone so that is not a good sign.

It seems possible that YouTube has killed the trick that this tool was based on. Which actually makes the whole sale and product look even worse.

Maybe we should add this experience to our lingo.
Whenever we get scammed by shady, money grabbing IMers, we should refer
to the experience as -- "Damn! I guess I got *video vantaged* AGAIN!"

A while back a got a promo offer from the warrior WillR that was selling a piece of software. The promo showed a live video of he himself using the software a couple months ago and the results it has generated for him since. I clicked his affiliate link and pushed the buy button.

You know why I didn't buy video vantage? Because of all the people I saw promoting it, not one of them did that. VV had a great sales video, but I didn't hear from anyone promoting it besides the creators themselves actually give a personal first hand case study.

Which is why I didn't buy it, though I admit, I was tempted.

If you want me to buy from you, show me a personal case study you have done, not theorize about what might work, or tell me what sounds good, etc. If it works for you, share it with me and I'll gladly click your affiliate link and make a purchase. If you haven't even used it, you lose a lot of credibility when you promote it to me.

Without doubt I'm sure many bought from Alex Becker's recommendation. I may not be surprise he can lose his credibility due to this crappy software.

We didnt promote this. But we did buy a copy. I havent had the chance to run the software yet. That really sucks that its already broken and not working right.

Unfortunately when you are dealing with other sites and services like YT and wiki... you cant control what they change or do. Which will cause your software to not work correctly.

I would wait a few days to let them try to fix the software before getting too angry and requesting refunds.

Personally I would wait 1-2 weeks to let them fix it and make it all better :-)

I never went to their website to deal with their scustomer service. I requested a refund from paypal and was refunded pretty quickly.
I got the training videos and they refunded that as well.

Making a crappy product is one thing, but I don't feel cheated because they refunded my money when I asked them to. I did not have a video so it took me a few days to actually use the product. I also wanted to see the webinar on Tuesday thinking it might answer some questions. After it was another sales presentation, I asked for the refund right away.

Even though they refunded me, I still think I will unsubscribe to their email list.

The reason a lot of "gooroos" were promoting Video Vantage was because of the prizes the product owners were offering to the "gooroos" with the most sales - $20,000 total in prizes, I heard.

Oh, I bought this software too. Because I trusted the person who promoted it to me. Even though I knew lots of people were going to get it, that did not deter me. It took years for google to stop all the spamming on the internet, I figured this would give me about the same time frame. Not bad, I thought.

What is bad?

The product does not work! I asked for a refund and this is what I got in return.

Can you believe that? I guess they must be getting tons of refund requests right now and they are feeling a bit snippy!

Here was my reply, and why I was so unsatisfied with the software:

Hello,

Thank you for your prompt response to my request. I am glad you asked why I want a refund for the product and understand that many people purchase products like these and then end up having buyers remorse. However that is not my issue. The product is not working as advertised. I will detail the issues below.

The first campaign I ran:

Out of the 62 selected blogs and wikis, only 38 of them had success. I had to cancel the processes 3 times because of hanging. In addition, when I checked on some of the comments that were 'successful', I found a message on the results page that read "Slow down, you're posting too fast". On those instances, I had to build the backlinks MANUALLY.

The second campaign I ran:
The process was much worse. The software kept hanging and freezing up my system (NOTHING else was running in the background) and I had to keep stopping it and restarting it. Out of the 33 times attempted, 16 were actually posted. In addition, I encountered the same results messages of "Slow down, your posting too fast". Other times, it would log in and freeze. And also the software would initialize and hang. I had to cancel that campaign 8 times during running because of freezing issues. Twice, I had to actually restart my computer because the freeze was so bad, not even task manager could shut it down.

In addition to that, there were problems with the captcha. Since I was at my computer almost the entire time, I know that deathbycaptcha was not down because I checked my balance several times, thinking that might be the problem. That was not it though, because I had a balance of over $12 at the time.

Both of those campaigns were problematic. For both processes, the software had a hard time finding any sort of blogs to comment on for my niche (which is health).

Both projects had significant hang and freeze time causing me to be chained to my computer so that I could take care of the issues.

In many instances, I had to MANUALLY build the backlink myself after viewing the results page messages.

As far as getting any of the higher pr (anything over a 2) it was impossible, as the results returned for those did not have commenting enabled, or your software could not find the submit button, or the software would hang for an extended period of time.

Seaching for the blogs to comment on had multiple hangs, and on more than half the searches, no results were returned at all. Out of the 4 times I ran different searches (.edu, .gov, do follow, commentluv) I got less than 10 results returned. Most of the times, I had to cancel the search because it was hanging for more than 3 or 4 minutes. That went on for hours, because as was stated in the training video, you can't run too many of those searches within 30 minutes of eachother because google will shut you down.

I bought this product because it claimed that you could build backlinks on auto pilot. This is not the case. I found myself sitting here, addressing hang time, researching where it got hung up, having to restart campaigns, and even build links to the sites manually.

In addition, it was stated that I would be able to obtain High PR backlinks, however for any of the high pr backlinks I tried to submit, I never did get a backlink on those sites due to the software not being able to log in, hanging on the initializing, or not being able to find the comment section - or the lack of one on the page returned.

For these reasons, I respectfully request a refund. My purchase information is in the first ticket sent to you.

Thank you, in advance, for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely,
Kelly

We will see how that goes.

Don't shoot the messenger here, but... when you say JVZoo should take better care of "their customers," maybe we are wrong in assuming JVZoo thinks the end users (consumers) are "their customers." Without vendors, JVZoo would have no consumers. I agree JVZoo SHOULD care about the consumer, but maybe they don't. Maybe they're thinking "honor among thieves."

Hi guys,

I can't work out how to get my refund back.

I have basically been misold a product and just deleted the it once I saw this is a product that will actually damage efforts.

I contacted the support who did get back to me to ask for my paypal receipt and since then, just ignored everything including the paypal email that I replied to that had taken the funds in the first place.

This Mo guy is just a scammer in my view ripping people off through platforms such as JVZoo will really place their reputation on stake here!

How the hell do I go about getting my refund?

If I go through PayPal, do i need to wait until I have tried to resolve with the product owner and if so, he just ripped off most people who brought the product.

With all fairness Peter Garaty is also working with Mo as his product is as an upsell and normally, Peter has good products. All I am saying is that 'Peter, if you are working with such people, where does my trust leave with you'?

If anyone can help or direct me to the correct process to obtain my refund that has really been in a scam, i would be most appreciated

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I filed a dispute with paypal and provided a link to this thread.

paypal said that they couldnt contact the seller and asked if I wanted to escalate it to a claim.

I said yes.

they refunded in less than 12 hrs.

follow these steps and you will get refunded FAST. (unless you have a high refund rate in paypal)

Alex Becker promoted this product and that is the reason I bought, I instantly realized this was something that would not work as advertised. I unsubscribe to Alex's list because of that violation of trust. Not only the software didn't work, the biggest issue I see was paying also $37 bucks for joining a facebook group that is more for them to sell you coaching than a mastermind.

I don't care if Alex Becker is saying he is not a Youtube SEO guy right now I received an email telling me how he ranked a youtube video and how he rarely promotes to his list, however he indeed promoted Video Vantage and that's the reason I bought.

I hope you guys who don't want the software get a refund by filing a dispute with Paypal and also unsubscribe from the lists of people who promoted this software.

FYI I requested a refund and got in my paypal account in 3 hours.

Here's what these ASSHOLES said when I asked for a refund:

Robert Cottom,

A customer support staff member has replied to your support request, #785857 with the following response:

Hey can you please clarify further the issue your having with Video Vantage so we can try help resolve it for you?

We offer a 30 day guarantee on the Video Vantage software and as it's stated on the sales letter, the policy is only valid if all of the conditions are met. To reiterate, refunds are subject to the product not being as described, not being delivered (see below), or not working the way we advertised.

We have a zero tolerance policy people who just want to benefit out of the year long work Video Vantage has created without paying for a top quality product that brings results.

Reasons such as: "I don't want it anymore", "it's not for me", "the content is nothing new", "I need the money back for medical bills", or similar semantics, are not valid reasons for refunds.

However, if you're requesting a refund because the software isn't working the way it should, it will be granted only after The Video Vantage Support Team has failed to help with the problems you're having with it. The Video Vantage Team reserves the right to deem an issue unsolvable, however, it will always be with honesty and within reason.

Another valid reason for refund also includes a double purchase, which will need to be submitted to the Accounting Team within the same support system, to verify the double purchase.

Lastly, Video Atlas, Video Vantage's upsell, does not have a refund guarantee for any reason, as it's cutting edge training, and digitally delivered 100% of the time, and PayPal backs up the "no refunds on digital products" policy.

DELIVERABILITY: Should the system not the deliver your login details in time, a ticket must be submitted to the support team, to be answered within 24-48 business hours with a temporary username and password, the reset of his or her account, or a new username and password issued by the support team.

In the event that the system server doesn't respond promptly, the customer agrees that some technical issues may happen, and will give The Video Vantage Team 72 hours to resolve the issue to deliver the product. If the product is not delivered after that period, the customer has a valid reason to request a refund if the support team has not answered their ticket and updated the customer with the status of the situation.

We thank you again for depositing your trust in us, and we're working very hard to help you achieve your business and SEO goals with Video Vantage, and The Video Vantage Support Team will ensure the aforementioned, for as long as you own the product.

If you're having problems to make Video Vantage work, we look forward to your inquiry to help you get the software working and get you the results you're looking for.

If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate in contacting us, we're here to help.

Sincerely,
The Video Vantage Team

So basically,, these a-holes are saying that I CAN'T GET A REFUND!!!!! IT'S ON THEIR TERMS, NOT YOURS!!!

For what it's worth, they made a "patch" or update to fix bugs and sent it out in an email to those still subscribed about 3 days ago.
To repeat my earlier post, I sent in one refund request to their ticket desk and got my refund in my paypal account two days after that.

I got one question here for ANYONE and everyone. (And no, not for the owners or friends of the creators)

Has ANYONE had ANY success or anything went well with this? Has anyone ranked a video well and made any money?

That's the only real question: Has anyone used this to make a dime? Just one dime, that's it. A dime.

Robert Cottom------>Cool face here

Yipee!

My PayPal account got a FULL REFUND from these thieves trying to make a quick buck from many people after misleading information and a non fully functional software as described!

I raised a dispute with PayPal, someone guided me on this forum to do that!

I immediately escalated it as a complaint as the con artists, stopped answering all email requests of refunds and never resolved a support ticket so I did try!

Basically the misleading video that was as mentioned above from a year ago is all they really had to promote and trust me, I aint waiting around a year to get rankings which still seem not to be on page 1 as the SALES PAGE DESCRIBED!

A total miss-sell on a dispute!

(Silly children wanting to steel money for sweets and decided online transactions is a method! What crap goes through their minds?)

If you go on Youtube and look at the statistics for the video, you will see even more apparent information of the 'Great Scam' the 2 little boys have run!

They dont even cover the important upload format, the onsite optimization including the captions and Geo and how to place the keywords in and where! RSS is important too!!!!

I do a few more things (secret) but get most of my vids on page 1 in a couple of weeks, tell you the truth, I use a free software called Socisynd to help me get traffic and ranking which is quicker, safer and definitely works!

No selling, i'm no seller but Socisynd have a free account at the moment, got me results, rankings, traffic and fully friendly and most of you who got ripped off, well this is the best tip I can give and it is for FREE!

How Sad!

He BEGS from the people he ripped off!

hxxp://money-mindset.net/youtube-update/#comment-3194

How child minded! If he wanted money for sweets, he could have asked and not get his toys out of the pram and start to scam!

I think the only safe backlinks to youtube videos our many from social sites, I would only link the actual video to main blogs and maybe on a site like squidoo. Otherwise its kind of fishy being on so many sites unless you run an affiliate program.

Well,

I tell you what. I have ranked videos faster and better,, well, because it actually worked,, by having people on Fiverr do simple things for $5. So, i recommend trying that type of ranking 1st. Just type in on Fiverr, "get your Youtube videos ranked". It's that simple.

It's only $5 per video per task. But it's WAAAAAAAAAY more worth the money and effective. The 5 bucks is way more worth wasting your time and money on this.

Again, I wish I had 2 more hands to give this product 4 thumbs down!

Robert Cottom

I also purchased the "deal" with Spin Rewriter and can't seem to get them to respond about the fact that I can't log on to their site anymore. Multiple times trying to reset password and I get no reset email. Anyone having problems with them? Just curious if this is somehow related since I used the V V "deal" when I bought

I bought Video Vantage, my fault, I wont ask for a refund cause I dam well should have know better. However, I will hold accountable those how promoted this to me by unsubscribing to their list and not purchasing products from them. I think every one who fells passionately about getting hosed-or lied to should follow suite. Send a message-you want to stay in this biz, then you better have some sense of ethics. As far Little Devin and Wyatt go-It looks like we wont be hearing from these two for a long while. Pal has take action and I am certain that JV-zoo will follow some administrative action regarding their account as well. Its great to see the warriors community stand up and fight back! very inspiring.
To all your success, may we all recover our losses, learn hard lessons with speed and grace
Best regards
JD

I requested a refund with PayPal 3 days ago for the whole VV including upsells. I got notification of a full refund 13 hours ago that a refund was given. All I did was put a link to this thread, ticked the item description plus a few comments. I did not have to escalate the dispute!

I have'nt got a refund from these asshole scammers and can't even open a dispute with Paypal. I keep getting the following message when I try:

If you were making a purchase or sending money, we recommend that you check both your PayPal account and your email for a transaction confirmation after 30 minutes.

If you came to this page from another website, please return to that site (don't use your browser's Back button) and try again.

If you came from PayPal's website, click the PayPal logo in the upper-left-hand corner to return to the home page and try again. You might have to log in again.

Never heard about it . I will give a try

To those that will not ask for a refund 'cause you "fell for these guys sales video" and should have known better.. Guys this is a matter of principle here. It's not about the money, it's about them cheating and lying to get quick sales then not backing up their product. They need to be taught a lesson now before they go any further so in the future they know cheating does not pay!

Lose your reputation in this business and you're sunk. They will probably start again using pen names...

I agree on writing to the people that got you to buy and state how disappointed you are they promoted junk and that you are unsubscribing. A lesson for them too. Only promote what truly works.

There's far too much garbage in this business. As a Mom I think a short sharp lesson for these young boys will hopefully lead them back on the straight and narrow, If it doesn't.. well they deserve what they get

what amazes me is that a lot of so called "respected IMers" chose to sell this, without even trying out the product. bad karma

stay away. The software is so fiddly, doesn't get the rankig it promises but they did reply to my emails and kindly refunded at least

This has already been said, but I thought I'd repeat it for people who may have missed it as this thread gets longer....

Anyone having issues getting a refund from the VV guys directly, which is probably everyone who has ever requested one directly from them, just call paypal on the phone tell them your issues with the software (advertising, support, etc.) and they will open a case for you. That's all I did and refund is on the way.

I filed a dispute with pay pal on 03/08, and then escalated that dispute to a claim on the 11th, and I received a full refund the very next day!

Hey All,

It's me again, Robert Cottom.---->
I'm sure you 're getting this too but if you haven't noticed, let me point it out for you.

These guys are still sending me crappy emails with other products and stuff,, well, they were until I "unsubscribed".

There's 2 of these guys and the dude from the spinner stuff sending affiliate crap. I would NEVER buy anything from these guys and I wish I could remember who I got it from (the affiliate) because I would delete him too.

So, anyway, what I did was went through my "affiliates" and started unsubscribing from any and mostly all the people sending me product releases and got rid of all the BS. They all send the same crap anyways. I spend a lot of time deleting all the same emails. On my blog I have info about what REALLY works. A link to some good free videos.

Check 'em out. There's truly ONE system for making money. There's MANY different WAYS, but it all boils down to the same thing. Selling something. Putting an offer in front of someone about something. They either take action or they don't. That's it. Don't complicate it for yourself.

It's Robert Cottom comin' atcha---->

p.s. I'm spending around $600 (just to buy the product) to test this new product very soon. Putting all the pieces together as we speak. The reason is I made $2400 in 6 hours doing this before messing around. Gonna build a complete business this time, no messing around. This is the BEST money I EVER made with IM type stuff. It's mobile websites and an actual REAL business, not these crappy, "Try this garbage, or this garbage, and my next garbage" and never get anywhere. No, I made serious bank and still get residuals doing,, well,, nothing.
Ok,, see ya guys,,better go before I get busted here. Can I get a big
Booyah!!!!!

I purchased VV when it was launched via an email from Becker. As I really respect what Becker has to say I thought the software was going to be legit. I was sadly mistaken as it didn't post very well at all. My biggest complaint at the time though was the spin requirement was ridiculous. Needing to have an API just for the tool to be able to understand how to use SpinTax? I've got free wordpress plugins that can render SpinTax and this paid tool needed an API key to do it?

Luckily I was quickly refunded when I filed my compliant and refund request. Didn't take more than a couple of days at the time. Anyhow lesson learned, take what even trusted marketers have with a grain of salt.

I too wish I'd found this thread in the beginning. I moved in a different direction shortly after, thinking I would get back to video and use VA. I recently started focusing on video and went to watch the startup video on the app and...nothing. I tried to log into the members area and got an error page telling me the server can't be found. I still get emails from Wyatt and Devin. They're still out there promoting things. I put in a support ticket just for grins and giggles to see if I get a response but I'm probably scre__'d on this one. Live and learn! I'm not new at this so I should have seen it before I clicked the buy button.
Too late for a refund which I probably wouldn't get anyway if I requested one.
Time to delete this trash app from my hard drive and ban Wayatt & Devin from my world.
The affiliate I bought this through was Sean Donahoe who I've had good experience with in the past. I'm sure he thought it was a good thing too.

It's now June and I can't get any response from support. I just bought Zander's new product Rent-A-SERP silly me I can't get help with it too! Anyone have any luck?

I purchased it, and received a receipt, but never got the software, and forgot to pursue it at paypal, but the sotware was never delivered.