Amazon Affiliates - Are You Seriously Making Money?

by waken 865 replies
I really got to ask this...
I recently promoting Amazon after seeing quite a number of success stories here...

But, when I checked my account.. I was wondering do you guys really make money with Amazon?

I mean, serious money as an affiliate?
Is that possible?

Hm... I think I would better stick with other networks.
The share is way to small...


#main internet marketing discussion forum #affiliates #amazon #making #money
  • Profile picture of the author Biggy Fat
    Dan Brock and Sara Young (my two Amazon "mentors" so to speak) are making a killing with Amazon. I'm on my way too, I made $80 last month (nine sales) and I hope to bump that up this month. Got another site on the pipeline which I'm confident in.

    Yeah, I know, Amazon's commission is crappy, but it's all about volume with them (and it's a lot easier to convert).
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    • Profile picture of the author Han Fan
      Originally Posted by Nickitta View Post

      Hello!

      I have read Dan Brock's thread and quite like his Amazon plan. Being a newbie I got as far as writing the first article but then got stuck on the technicalities. Would love some guidance:p:p
      When you say about technicalities?

      Do you mean set up anchor text? or affiliate link?

      or Do you mean, how be a technical writer?

      please clarify..

      Thanks

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  • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
    We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products. It is very doable.

    The commission rate starts at 4% but goes up to 8.25% if you sell enough products.

    The secret to doing well with Amazon products is to:

    1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
    2. Write exceptionally good product reviews.
    3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.
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    • Profile picture of the author rajuthan
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
      Important!!
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      • Profile picture of the author Jay norestin
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        well I would said.. run a PPV campaign blast it all over the internet before the holidays.. amazon will put your cookies on anyone who click on your page... and you might see over $100K in commission after the holidays.
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    • Profile picture of the author waken
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products.
      My God! Is that the sales amount or the commission?

      Originally Posted by Biggy Fat View Post

      Yeah, I know, Amazon's commission is crappy, but it's all about volume with them (and it's a lot easier to convert).
      Ok..thanks..

      Originally Posted by rajuthan View Post

      $9 commision to sell an Apple iPod classic 160 GB Black (7th Generation) NEWEST MODEL ?

      lol fail at trying to hide the item
      Wow! That's amazing!
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      • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
        Originally Posted by waken View Post

        My God! Is that the sales amount or the commission?
        That's the commission.
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        • Profile picture of the author calbeach
          Wow, may u tell us how or where do you get your traffic?

          Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

          That's the commission.
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          • Profile picture of the author Success With Dany
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            If I'm rewriting Amazon reviews in my own words, can I mention the customer's name? For example, "Joe America, from Midwest, liked this gizmo because it does this and that, althoug he didn't like when the giz mo did this"

            Or can we only use reviews as is?
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            • Profile picture of the author TimG
              Originally Posted by Success With Dany View Post

              If I'm rewriting Amazon reviews in my own words, can I mention the customer's name? For example, "Joe America, from Midwest, liked this gizmo because it does this and that, althoug he didn't like when the giz mo did this"

              Or can we only use reviews as is?
              I've been working the customer reviews in with opening statements such as:

              "Reviews for this product have been favorable with many users stating that the product has worked wonders..."

              I then go on to list some of the benefits the customers have posted but I never actually name any customers.

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    • Profile picture of the author Ofthemix
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products. It is very doable.

      The commission rate starts at 4% but goes up to 8.25% if you sell enough products.

      The secret to doing well with Amazon products is to:

      1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
      2. Write exceptionally good product reviews.
      3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.
      What do you think about Amazon plugins like ReviewAZON and WPRobot Amazon Autoposter? Just curious.

      I'm doing some testing right now between a site using text links only and one using one of the above mentioned plugins.

      Also, about how many amazon promoting sites do you have to pull in that massive amount of commission sales? And are they predominantly niche sites or authority sites?
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      • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
        Originally Posted by Ofthemix View Post

        What do you think about Amazon plugins like ReviewAZON and WPRobot Amazon Autoposter? Just curious.

        I'm doing some testing right now between a site using text links only and one using one of the above mentioned plugins.

        Also, about how many amazon promoting sites do you have to pull in that massive amount of commission sales? And are they predominantly niche sites or authority sites?
        We use Amazon plugins for some of our product reviews but we prefer to change the content. No point copying over the same content from Amazon. It just doesn't work. You really need to be writing your own review.

        You only need a few product reviews to make that sort of money. Most people assume we have hundreds of reviews, and we do, but really a good majority of that income comes from maybe 10 or so reviews.

        We have niche sites but the niche is not the important thing - the product is. You just have to choose the right products in Amazon.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ofthemix
          Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

          We use Amazon plugins for some of our product reviews but we prefer to change the content. No point copying over the same content from Amazon. It just doesn't work. You really need to be writing your own review.
          I agree that writing all of your own reviews is just about the only way to succeed. I usually copy and paste the Amazon review into a word document and then write my own review based on that and Amazon customer reviews so that they're at least 250 words long. I take out all of the duplicate stuff that you normally see in Amazon reviews, like how they list some stuff in the actual paragraph explaining the item and then the same stuff in the bullet points. And I will typically list the negatives (if there are any) along with the positives, in case my readers don't read the post comments, so that they can make better informed buying decisions. It might cost me a sale of two, but at least my readers know that my site is honest, and hopefully that builds some sort of trust.
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          • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
            Originally Posted by Ofthemix View Post

            I agree that writing all of your own reviews is just about the only way to succeed. I usually copy and paste the Amazon review into a word document and then write my own review based on that and Amazon customer reviews so that they're at least 250 words long. I take out all of the duplicate stuff that you normally see in Amazon reviews, like how they list some stuff in the actual paragraph explaining the item and then the same stuff in the bullet points. And I will typically list the negatives (if there are any) along with the positives, in case my readers don't read the post comments, so that they can make better informed buying decisions. It might cost me a sale of two, but at least my readers know that my site is honest, and hopefully that builds some sort of trust.
            I would try and make those reviews even longer if you can. Our best reviews are over 1000 words. They seem to convert so much better than the short reviews we have.
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            • Profile picture of the author june26
              Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

              I would try and make those reviews even longer if you can. Our best reviews are over 1000 words. They seem to convert so much better than the short reviews we have.
              Errr, sometimes you cant write a 1000 word review. Take the Aroma Rice Cooker on Amazon. Seriously, do you think you could write a 1000 word review about a rice cooker that makes 8 cups of cooked rice?
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              • Profile picture of the author DogScout
                Originally Posted by june26 View Post

                Errr, sometimes you cant write a 1000 word review. Take the Aroma Rice Cooker on Amazon. Seriously, do you think you could write a 1000 word review about a rice cooker that makes 8 cups of cooked rice?
                Easily. A post on stir fry and how it can use any favor from classic Japanese to teriyaki, Jamaican Jerk to Mexican, Italian to New Orleans style or just lemon juice and wine. A description on how to make it in 15 minutes with the fact that a rice side is almost mandatory and the Aroma Rice Cooker is the best perfect rice cooker (EVERY TIME!) along with the dietary benefits of rice if you still are not at 1,000 words should do it. (Plus give busy mom's 300-400 quick dishes to feed their families in under 20 minutes that changing meat/fish/seafood, veggies and flavorings will ensure they NEVER get sick of eating it as an added benefit to the article.)

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              • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
                Originally Posted by june26 View Post

                Errr, sometimes you cant write a 1000 word review. Take the Aroma Rice Cooker on Amazon. Seriously, do you think you could write a 1000 word review about a rice cooker that makes 8 cups of cooked rice?
                Mark gave you one idea. Here's another, gratis...

                Tell people how to cook rice in a regular pot, and then tell them how to get the scorched gluey mess out of the pot. Follow that with a description of how a rice cooker actually works and why the features of the Aroma Rice Cooker avoids all the problems other cooking methods have built in. Talk about the shortcomings in other products that the Aroma doesn't have. (User reviews are a great source for this info).
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              • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
                Originally Posted by june26 View Post

                Errr, sometimes you cant write a 1000 word review. Take the Aroma Rice Cooker on Amazon. Seriously, do you think you could write a 1000 word review about a rice cooker that makes 8 cups of cooked rice?

                Merge 2 - 500 articles into one :-)
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              • Profile picture of the author goosexxx
                Originally Posted by june26 View Post

                Errr, sometimes you cant write a 1000 word review. Take the Aroma Rice Cooker on Amazon. Seriously, do you think you could write a 1000 word review about a rice cooker that makes 8 cups of cooked rice?
                I could...
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              • Originally Posted by june26 View Post

                Errr, sometimes you cant write a 1000 word review. Take the Aroma Rice Cooker on Amazon. Seriously, do you think you could write a 1000 word review about a rice cooker that makes 8 cups of cooked rice?
                All day long!

                Go to the features ...
                explain how each feature provides a benefit.
                People don't buy features, they buy benefits.

                Ex> The cooker says it is 8 cups, so say ...
                The Aroma 8 cup Rice Cooker offers versatility as well as capacity. Eating lunch alone? No problem. Add rice and water per the instructions, close the top, and forget! Fix one cup of perfectly cooked rice. Having family and friends over for dinner? That is where the huge 8 cup capacity comes in to play. But don't think that making 8 cups is any different in quality than a single cup. The Aroma Rice Cooker automatically cooks perfect, non-sticky, non lumpy rice every time. You can be the hero at the dinner table when you buy this excellent time-saver that frees you up for other more important tasks.

                There is over 100 words on just the capacity.
                But you mention the BENEFITS of cooking 1 - 8 cups ... automation frees you up, makes perfect rice so you look good, etc.

                Easy to write 1,000 words if you think of negative scenarios the product can solve.
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                • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
                  Originally Posted by CoolAromas View Post

                  All day long!

                  Go to the features ...
                  explain how each feature provides a benefit.
                  People don't buy features, they buy benefits.

                  Ex> The cooker says it is 8 cups, so say ...
                  The Aroma 8 cup Rice Cooker offers versatility as well as capacity. Eating lunch alone? No problem. Add rice and water per the instructions, close the top, and forget! Fix one cup of perfectly cooked rice. Having family and friends over for dinner? That is where the huge 8 cup capacity comes in to play. But don't think that making 8 cups is any different in quality than a single cup. The Aroma Rice Cooker automatically cooks perfect, non-sticky, non lumpy rice every time. You can be the hero at the dinner table when you buy this excellent time-saver that frees you up for other more important tasks.

                  There is over 100 words on just the capacity.
                  But you mention the BENEFITS of cooking 1 - 8 cups ... automation frees you up, makes perfect rice so you look good, etc.

                  Easy to write 1,000 words if you think of negative scenarios the product can solve.
                  Absolutely perfect Patrick.
                  Great reply. Writing a 1k review is just 3 "articles" joined together. I'm sure we have all written 3 articles before.

                  June26, you can do anything you want... go for it.
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                  • Profile picture of the author davidsamra
                    Wow. Just have to chime in and say thank you to ALL who have posted helpful information here, including a big shout out to Erica for her well thought out and detailed posts.

                    I've been following/lurking for awhile and now want to jump in with full force. I was bemoaning that I didn't start sooner for the holiday season but thanks again to Erica's post for getting my mind right again that people buy from Amazon all year long and that if I start now and focus and dedicate myself, by next Christmas I'll be primed and ready for a big "bonus."

                    I do have to say though that I'm a bit overwhelmed - paralysis by analysis - after reading through this entire thread and having digested so much incredible information. I literally have to calm myself down and get to work

                    I hope it's ok to pick all your brains going forward. Thank you.

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                    • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
                      Originally Posted by davidsamra View Post

                      ...if I start now and focus and dedicate myself, by next Christmas I'll be primed and ready for a big "bonus."
                      Exactly! I didn't start focusing on Amazon until mid-April of '10 and did very well by the end of the year. If you start now, you could do even better than me by the end of 2011!

                      Originally Posted by davidsamra View Post

                      I do have to say though that I'm a bit overwhelmed - paralysis by analysis - after reading through this entire thread and having digested so much incredible information. I literally have to calm myself down and get to work

                      I hope it's ok to pick all your brains going forward. Thank you.

                      Dave
                      I think you're in good hands in this forum and you'll find all the help and information you need. Use the search function and ask specific questions (only because the answers are generally more helpful when the questions are specific) and I'm sure you'll do just fine!

                      In regards to your "paralysis" just write down the first five steps you want to take to get a site up and go do them. You can fix almost any mistake you make along the way EXCEPT to reverse time to show you started earlier than you actually did so START NOW! TODAY!!

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          • Profile picture of the author anwar001
            Originally Posted by Ofthemix View Post

            I agree that writing all of your own reviews is just about the only way to succeed. I usually copy and paste the Amazon review into a word document and then write my own review based on that and Amazon customer reviews so that they're at least 250 words long. I take out all of the duplicate stuff that you normally see in Amazon reviews, like how they list some stuff in the actual paragraph explaining the item and then the same stuff in the bullet points. And I will typically list the negatives (if there are any) along with the positives, in case my readers don't read the post comments, so that they can make better informed buying decisions. It might cost me a sale of two, but at least my readers know that my site is honest, and hopefully that builds some sort of trust.
            Are 250 word reviews sufficient for search rankings as well as visitor conversions? Do you get a satisfactory conversion rate from your articles when you write short reviews?
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            • Profile picture of the author Han Fan
              Originally Posted by anwar001 View Post

              Are 250 word reviews sufficient for search rankings as well as visitor conversions? Do you get a satisfactory conversion rate from your articles when you write short reviews?

              it doesn't matter how much you write..as long as it converts..

              if you write 2 words, it help you make sales, than it's good

              just focus on quality of your review, instead do word counts

              but in general the more the better

              google need as least 250+ to determine what heck is your post is about

              google ignore words like "the", "a", "-" it does not read like a human keep that in mind

              but if you just write as if you were talking to your best about a product...

              you should be good to go

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        • Profile picture of the author all4realwithme
          Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

          We use Amazon plugins for some of our product reviews but we prefer to change the content. No point copying over the same content from Amazon. It just doesn't work. You really need to be writing your own review.

          You only need a few product reviews to make that sort of money. Most people assume we have hundreds of reviews, and we do, but really a good majority of that income comes from maybe 10 or so reviews.

          We have niche sites but the niche is not the important thing - the product is. You just have to choose the right products in Amazon.






          hi Paula, what criteria do you use in choosing products to review? and do you build a new website for every single review? thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author AskiKaOwnzYou
          Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

          We use Amazon plugins for some of our product reviews but we prefer to change the content. No point copying over the same content from Amazon. It just doesn't work. You really need to be writing your own review.

          You only need a few product reviews to make that sort of money. Most people assume we have hundreds of reviews, and we do, but really a good majority of that income comes from maybe 10 or so reviews.

          We have niche sites but the niche is not the important thing - the product is. You just have to choose the right products in Amazon.
          truthfully, copying amazon content over "DOES WORK". I am proof of it. the trick is marketing your domain in the serps (OFFICIAL "BLA BLA" REVIEW/GUIDE/RESOURCES/ETC).

          "Content title = "OFFICIAL|model number|WEBSITE"

          REVIEW = COPIED

          (through "dapper net" automatically)

          "article generator" (joomla) = $15 that automatically copies dapper rss to your website

          (You can setup dapper to format amazon associaite id's automatically into the posts).

          Took me a few weeks to cron/job with article generator the dapper rss... (it copied exactly new products of amazon in my selected niche).

          Currently over $50 per day on average - last year...

          thing require:

          1. joomla
          2. easy adsense (custom code on joomla)
          3. any automated rss submitter for your joomla website (article generator)
          4. dapper net (you gonna have to track down this "gem".

          hope helped some newbies make alot of money within minutes, hehe

          (I only submitted to several search engines, lol)

          HOWEVER SINCE I INCORPORATED ADSENSE AND AMAZON DOES NOT... GUESS WHAT, GOOGLE LOVES MY SITES LOL...
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          Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

          We use Amazon plugins for some of our product reviews but we prefer to change the content. No point copying over the same content from Amazon. It just doesn't work. You really need to be writing your own review.

          You only need a few product reviews to make that sort of money. Most people assume we have hundreds of reviews, and we do, but really a good majority of that income comes from maybe 10 or so reviews.

          We have niche sites but the niche is not the important thing - the product is. You just have to choose the right products in Amazon.
          you really grabbed my attention I will buy your amazonian Blueprint.Thanks a lot.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products. It is very doable.
      I was already an Amazon affiliate and I was making sales every month but nothing significant. Then I read a post on PaulaC's blog. (She doesn't know she was my inspiration - well, now she does!

      So, I found a niche, put up a product review site mid-April, and started writing.

      I made my first sale a few weeks later.

      I'm no expert, I'm always testing and learning but I'll share what I've done in case it helps anyone:

      For May, I had 1624 unique visitors, 311 of whom clicked over to Amazon. I had 10 sales that totaled $1366 in revenue. I was at the 6.5% payout rate (due to my other sites) so those sales earned almost $89 in commissions.

      I have 41 posts on the site (WordPress) - 24 are product reviews and 17 are "informational" to the niche (what certain product terms mean and why they're important, how to get the best deal, what to look for in "x products", etc.). My thought was that the informational posts would help the site stand apart from others targeting the niche who are just using Amazon product listings as their posts.

      Traffic continues to climb and most of the traffic comes from "product name" searches and "product name review" searches. Here are some things that seem to be helping:

      1. I hand write each review - no content taken verbatim from Amazon except a couple of comments from their consumer reviews.
      2. When I mention the Amazon consumer reviews, I suggest the visitor can "read more here: (affiliate text link to Amazon review page)".
      3. I started by writing reviews on the bestsellers on Amazon for this group of products. There are probably a couple of hundred different versions of this product on Amazon.
      4. Unintentionally, I chose a niche for which the products' instruction manuals are readily available online. I started actually reading the manuals which allows the reviews to include more information than is found in the Amazon product listing or on any other site that is simply using the Amazon information. Things like included accessories, ways to use the product, information about how it compares to competitive products. This allows for more content in general and more long-tailed traffic.
      5. Visited the manufacturers' sites for additional information.
      6. Promoted the site with bookmarking, a handful of articles, a network of Squidoo lenses, and a Hubpage.
      7. Titled each post with "Full Product Name Review".
      8. Linked images, text links and Amazon reviewers comments to Amazon.
      9. Included a "check the price" button in the post.
      10. Used WP-Table Reloaded to build a Comparison page of all the products for which a review has been done that can be sorted by critical product features, ratings, and price and which can also be filtered by any data in the columns. The product name in the table links to my review page. The price data in the table links to Amazon.
      11. Created a standard format that I use for each review so they are uniform in case the visitor goes from one review to another. This way, all the same information is in the same order. (There's probably a faster way to do this but I just copied all the necessary HTML formatting for my post layout into a draft post. When I go to write a review, I copy the HTML from the draft into a new post and then I just have to paste in my review text, insert images, and links.)
      This niche is not something I'm an expert in and it took me some time to research it and become familiar with the critical features of the products. At first, it took me hours to do a comprehensive review but now that I've done bunches of them, they're much easier and faster to write.

      My domain is a hyphenated, exact keyword match .com for a phrase that indicated people who would be shopping for these products. The keyword has 8100 exact searches a month in Google's Keyword tool. While I've optimized for that keyword phrase, it is really the specific product names that are bringing in the traffic so keyword research doesn't take up a lot of time. Find a product, write a review.

      I'm currently towards the bottom of the 1st page of Google for my keyword phrase, having passed the non-hyphenated .com and .net. Interested to see if searches for the keyword itself will bring sales or if it will continue to be the product name searches.

      (This is why I don't post too often - once I start writing it all tumbles out into a long, wordy bunch of blather! Regardless - a huge thanks to PaulaC and Daniel Brock for all the sharing they've done on this topic.)
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
        Amazon IMO is not going to make you rich...There are definitely some people in this forum that make a full time living off Amazon because they have sites that are highly ranked, but if you are making absolutely no money what so ever, Amazon is the perfect place to start.

        - A perfect way to make your first $1,000/m online.

        Everyone is so focused on all the products out there that are like 'watch me make $100,000 promoting products through clickbank'

        Well I hate to break it to you, anything on clickbank these days is extremely competitive. Can anyone make money with clickbank? Sure. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't take skill and experience.

        (In fact, I'm now building an authority site that primarily promotes a CB product, with a physical product to promote on the back end)

        All I can say is stop looking at this as 'oh this product will make me $100,000, so I'm going to buy that'

        If you can't make money online, or don't have the experience, forget about making $100,000.

        Make your first $1000/m then go from there.

        I honestly believe promoting physical products is the best way to get started making money online. While everyone else is focused on clickbank, and most likely failing, you can make a good bit of money every month promoting those unknown physical products that no one ever thinks about.

        Just my 2 cents.

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        • Profile picture of the author TimG
          Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

          Amazon IMO is not going to make you rich...There are definitely some people in this forum that make a full time living off Amazon because they have sites that are highly ranked, but if you are making absolutely no money what so ever, Amazon is the perfect place to start.

          - A perfect way to make your first $1,000/m online.

          Everyone is so focused on all the products out there that are like 'watch me make $100,000 promoting products through clickbank'

          Well I hate to break it to you, anything on clickbank these days is extremely competitive. Can anyone make money with clickbank? Sure. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't take skill and experience.

          (In fact, I'm now building an authority site that primarily promotes a CB product, with a physical product to promote on the back end)

          All I can say is stop looking at this as 'oh this product will make me $100,000, so I'm going to buy that'

          If you can't make money online, or don't have the experience, forget about making $100,000.

          Make your first $1000/m then go from there.

          I honestly believe promoting physical products is the best way to get started making money online. While everyone else is focused on clickbank, and most likely failing, you can make a good bit of money every month promoting those unknown physical products that no one ever thinks about.

          Just my 2 cents.

          - Dan Brock
          Dan,
          Having enjoyed some success with other monetization models I started seriously looking at Amazon after one of your threads. Next I purchased one of your WSOs and between that and some other threads in this forum I started making more from Amazon then I previously had for the last year.

          Wanted to say thanks for that!!

          Also, what I am finding is that if the product is one that folks need they will almost always purchase it. The combination of a desperate requirement and keyword phrase searches actually makes the traffic generation part easy. Amazon is taking care of the conversion part for me.

          When done correctly this is almost as easy as making money with Adsense but the payouts are much better even with the low commission rates.

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        • Profile picture of the author Frank Ruffoni
          Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

          Amazon IMO is not going to make you rich...There are definitely some people in this forum that make a full time living off Amazon because they have sites that are highly ranked, but if you are making absolutely no money what so ever, Amazon is the perfect place to start.

          - A perfect way to make your first $1,000/m online.

          Everyone is so focused on all the products out there that are like 'watch me make $100,000 promoting products through clickbank'

          Well I hate to break it to you, anything on clickbank these days is extremely competitive. Can anyone make money with clickbank? Sure. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't take skill and experience.

          (In fact, I'm now building an authority site that primarily promotes a CB product, with a physical product to promote on the back end)

          All I can say is stop looking at this as 'oh this product will make me $100,000, so I'm going to buy that'

          If you can't make money online, or don't have the experience, forget about making $100,000.

          Make your first $1000/m then go from there.

          I honestly believe promoting physical products is the best way to get started making money online. While everyone else is focused on clickbank, and most likely failing, you can make a good bit of money every month promoting those unknown physical products that no one ever thinks about.

          Just my 2 cents.

          - Dan Brock
          Great post and great advice.
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          • Profile picture of the author Han Fan
            Originally Posted by Frank Ruffoni View Post

            Great post and great advice.
            Set up amazon Site...

            Building List with ClickBank product

            You get sale from both END...

            think like customer...

            Complete this sentence:

            People come to my site....

            Will most likely buy......

            This information (clickbank product) will help them......


            For example:

            So one brought parts for building a bike...

            he/she are most like to buy "secret gudie" to build a
            best bike

            look for clickbank affiliate who gives you re-brandable
            ebook, start give that away at your website....

            get them into the list, setup some useful information
            send them to the clickbank product...

            so you kill two birds at same time..

            why not?

            Think "everything is possible" instead just focus on
            narrow minded...

            People come here, say, I got 20 hits no sales...

            well, maybe you not putting the right offer
            to a right buyer, at price, at right time....

            hope this help some of you get some creative juice flow..

            wish you all the best...

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            • Profile picture of the author jan roos
              Originally Posted by Han Fan View Post

              Set up amazon Site...

              Building List with ClickBank product

              You get sale from both END...

              think like customer...

              Complete this sentence:

              People come to my site....

              Will most likely buy......

              This information (clickbank product) will help them......


              For example:

              So one brought parts for building a bike...

              he/she are most like to buy "secret gudie" to build a
              best bike

              look for clickbank affiliate who gives you re-brandable
              ebook, start give that away at your website....

              get them into the list, setup some useful information
              send them to the clickbank product...

              so you kill two birds at same time..

              why not?

              Think "everything is possible" instead just focus on
              narrow minded...

              People come here, say, I got 20 hits no sales...

              well, maybe you not putting the right offer
              to a right buyer, at price, at right time....

              hope this help some of you get some creative juice flow..

              wish you all the best...

              Han
              Great Advice Han, You will also find that people who join your list this way will start sending you emails praising you for the great reviews you have on your site and how much it helped them in their decision making. It's a good feeling plus you make more money promoting other stuff on the back end.

              Cheers
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          Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

          If you can't make money online, or don't have the experience, forget about making $100,000.

          Make your first $1000/m then go from there.

          I honestly believe promoting physical products is the best way to get started making money online. While everyone else is focused on clickbank, and most likely failing, you can make a good bit of money every month promoting those unknown physical products that no one ever thinks about.

          Just my 2 cents.

          - Dan Brock
          Can't agree more... if you can't get your first $1 online, there will be no way to get your $100,000.

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      • Profile picture of the author waken
        Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

        That's the commission.
        Amazing! Inspiring! Thanks Paula!

        Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post

        I was already an Amazon affiliate and I was making sales every month but nothing significant. Then I read a post on PaulaC's blog. (She doesn't know she was my inspiration - well, now she does! )

        Daniel Brock's posts were also encouraging!

        So, I found a niche, put up a product review site mid-April, and started writing.

        I made my first sale a few weeks later.

        I'm no expert, I'm always testing and learning but I'll share what I've done in case it helps anyone:

        For May, I had 1624 unique visitors, 311 of whom clicked over to Amazon. I had 10 sales that totaled $1366 in revenue. I was at the 6.5% payout rate (due to my other sites) so those sales earned almost $89 in commissions.

        I have 41 posts on the site (WordPress) - 24 are product reviews and 17 are "informational" to the niche (what certain product terms mean and why they're important, how to get the best deal, what to look for in "x products", etc.). My thought was that the informational posts would help the site stand apart from others targeting the niche who are just using Amazon product listings as their posts.

        Traffic continues to climb and most of the traffic comes from "product name" searches and "product name review" searches. Here are some things that seem to be helping:

        1. I hand write each review - no content taken verbatim from Amazon except a couple of comments from their consumer reviews.
        2. When I mention the Amazon consumer reviews, I suggest the visitor can "read more here: (affiliate text link to Amazon review page)".
        3. I started by writing reviews on the bestsellers on Amazon for this group of products. There are probably a couple of hundred different versions of this product on Amazon.
        4. Unintentionally, I chose a niche for which the products' instruction manuals are readily available online. I started actually reading the manuals which allows the reviews to include more information than is found in the Amazon product listing or on any other site that is simply using the Amazon information. Things like included accessories, ways to use the product, information about how it compares to competitive products. This allows for more content in general and more long-tailed traffic.
        5. Visited the manufacturers' sites for additional information.
        6. Promoted the site with bookmarking, a handful of articles, a network of Squidoo lenses, and a Hubpage.
        7. Titled each post with "Full Product Name Review".
        8. Linked images, text links and Amazon reviewers comments to Amazon.
        9. Included a "check the price" button in the post.
        10. Used WP-Table Reloaded to build a Comparison page of all the products for which a review has been done that can be sorted by critical product features, ratings, and price and which can also be filtered by any data in the columns. The product name in the table links to my review page. The price data in the table links to Amazon.
        11. Created a standard format that I use for each review so they are uniform in case the visitor goes from one review to another. This way, all the same information is in the same order. (There's probably a faster way to do this but I just copied all the necessary HTML formatting for my post layout into a draft post. When I go to write a review, I copy the HTML from the draft into a new post and then I just have to paste in my review text, insert images, and links.)
        This niche is not something I'm an expert in and it took me some time to research it and become familiar with the critical features of the products. At first, it took me hours to do a comprehensive review but now that I've done bunches of them, they're much easier and faster to write.

        My domain is a hyphenated, exact keyword match .com for a phrase that indicated people who would be shopping for these products. The keyword has 8100 exact searches a month in Google's Keyword tool. While I've optimized for that keyword phrase, it is really the specific product names that are bringing in the traffic so keyword research doesn't take up a lot of time. Find a product, write a review.

        I'm currently towards the bottom of the 1st page of Google for my keyword phrase, having passed the non-hyphenated .com and .net. Interested to see if searches for the keyword itself will bring sales or if it will continue to be the product name searches.

        (This is why I don't post too often - once I start writing it all tumbles out into a long, wordy bunch of blather! Regardless - a huge thanks to PaulaC and Daniel Brock for all the sharing they've done on this topic.)
        Nice little plan Sojourn!
        Thanks.

        Hm.. Okay, so volume is the key.

        Conversion is better than ebooks..
        SEO traffic is the best..

        I seem to get some ideas now.

        Thanks everybody!
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        Sojourn,

        Thanks for such a detailed response. It is very informative and helpful. It is always encouraging to know about other people's successes.
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      • Profile picture of the author rehema
        Sojourn you are reallly help people on this forum I did not expect to get something so detailed on this forum like this
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      • Profile picture of the author Marilyn Rae
        Thanks this was great information.
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      • Profile picture of the author RichardJFox
        Hi Sojourn, really liked your post and have to say I find Dan Brock an insperation!
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        • Profile picture of the author Hoody
          Just signed up for the UK Amazon Affiliate scheme. although it states the referral rate is 5%, according to a post on their forums they have set a cap of £7 per item, which is a bit sucky.
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          • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
            Originally Posted by Hoody View Post

            Just signed up for the UK Amazon Affiliate scheme. although it states the referral rate is 5%, according to a post on their forums they have set a cap of £7 per item, which is a bit sucky.
            I believe you can still promote for amazon.com (USA) if you want...
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      • Profile picture of the author LexWorldOnline
        Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post

        I was already an Amazon affiliate and I was making sales every month but nothing significant. Then I read a post on PaulaC's blog. (She doesn't know she was my inspiration - well, now she does!

        So, I found a niche, put up a product review site mid-April, and started writing.

        I made my first sale a few weeks later.

        I'm no expert, I'm always testing and learning but I'll share what I've done in case it helps anyone:

        For May, I had 1624 unique visitors, 311 of whom clicked over to Amazon. I had 10 sales that totaled $1366 in revenue. I was at the 6.5% payout rate (due to my other sites) so those sales earned almost $89 in commissions.

        I have 41 posts on the site (WordPress) - 24 are product reviews and 17 are "informational" to the niche (what certain product terms mean and why they're important, how to get the best deal, what to look for in "x products", etc.). My thought was that the informational posts would help the site stand apart from others targeting the niche who are just using Amazon product listings as their posts.

        Traffic continues to climb and most of the traffic comes from "product name" searches and "product name review" searches. Here are some things that seem to be helping:

        1. I hand write each review - no content taken verbatim from Amazon except a couple of comments from their consumer reviews.
        2. When I mention the Amazon consumer reviews, I suggest the visitor can "read more here: (affiliate text link to Amazon review page)".
        3. I started by writing reviews on the bestsellers on Amazon for this group of products. There are probably a couple of hundred different versions of this product on Amazon.
        4. Unintentionally, I chose a niche for which the products' instruction manuals are readily available online. I started actually reading the manuals which allows the reviews to include more information than is found in the Amazon product listing or on any other site that is simply using the Amazon information. Things like included accessories, ways to use the product, information about how it compares to competitive products. This allows for more content in general and more long-tailed traffic.
        5. Visited the manufacturers' sites for additional information.
        6. Promoted the site with bookmarking, a handful of articles, a network of Squidoo lenses, and a Hubpage.
        7. Titled each post with "Full Product Name Review".
        8. Linked images, text links and Amazon reviewers comments to Amazon.
        9. Included a "check the price" button in the post.
        10. Used WP-Table Reloaded to build a Comparison page of all the products for which a review has been done that can be sorted by critical product features, ratings, and price and which can also be filtered by any data in the columns. The product name in the table links to my review page. The price data in the table links to Amazon.
        11. Created a standard format that I use for each review so they are uniform in case the visitor goes from one review to another. This way, all the same information is in the same order. (There's probably a faster way to do this but I just copied all the necessary HTML formatting for my post layout into a draft post. When I go to write a review, I copy the HTML from the draft into a new post and then I just have to paste in my review text, insert images, and links.)
        This niche is not something I'm an expert in and it took me some time to research it and become familiar with the critical features of the products. At first, it took me hours to do a comprehensive review but now that I've done bunches of them, they're much easier and faster to write.

        My domain is a hyphenated, exact keyword match .com for a phrase that indicated people who would be shopping for these products. The keyword has 8100 exact searches a month in Google's Keyword tool. While I've optimized for that keyword phrase, it is really the specific product names that are bringing in the traffic so keyword research doesn't take up a lot of time. Find a product, write a review.

        I'm currently towards the bottom of the 1st page of Google for my keyword phrase, having passed the non-hyphenated .com and .net. Interested to see if searches for the keyword itself will bring sales or if it will continue to be the product name searches.

        (This is why I don't post too often - once I start writing it all tumbles out into a long, wordy bunch of blather! Regardless - a huge thanks to PaulaC and Daniel Brock for all the sharing they've done on this topic.)
        Thank you so much for such great information. I am new at affiliate marketing and in my 4 weeks or so in this business, i've seen so many programs which offers this and that via clickbank. I never thought Amazon can be such a great source of online income.

        Quick question though, I live outside the USA. Is the affiliate program available anywhere in the world?

        You are a great help. Thanks a lot.
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        • Originally Posted by LexWorldOnline View Post

          Thank you so much for such great information. I am new at affiliate marketing and in my 4 weeks or so in this business, i've seen so many programs which offers this and that via clickbank. I never thought Amazon can be such a great source of online income.

          Quick question though, I live outside the USA. Is the affiliate program available anywhere in the world?

          You are a great help. Thanks a lot.
          It is. You can still sign up the US Amazon Associates program and have your checks (cheques you guys don't say it right!) posted.
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            Originally Posted by Jason Perez O'Connor View Post

            It is. You can still sign up the US Amazon Associates program and have your checks (cheques you guys don't say it right!) posted.
            Thanks to this wonderful invention called the internet, it really doesn't matter where in the world you are - as long as you're promoting this to the right target market, Amazon will still give you credit for any sales made.
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    • Profile picture of the author sickbaomei
      Hi Paulac,
      your result is impressive. Do you manually post articles reviews on wordpress blogs or do you use some popular WP amazon plugins like reviewazon,amaniche,wpzon..etc ?

      THanks for sharing your secrets
      Chris

      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products. It is very doable.

      The commission rate starts at 4% but goes up to 8.25% if you sell enough products.

      The secret to doing well with Amazon products is to:

      1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
      2. Write exceptionally good product reviews.
      3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.
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      • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
        Originally Posted by sickbaomei View Post

        Hi Paulac,
        your result is impressive. Do you manually post articles reviews on wordpress blogs or do you use some popular WP amazon plugins like reviewazon,amaniche,wpzon..etc ?

        THanks for sharing your secrets
        Chris

        We mostly just manually post reviews on blogs. We also use Amazon plugins but not in a big way.
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    • Profile picture of the author JimmyS
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products.
      How many products do you do? Just asking......
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      • Profile picture of the author JasonC.biz
        This is great info, and I have a question for you who are doing well with Amazon.

        How focused are your sites?

        What I mean is; looking at one of your sites, do you focus on:

        1) A single product (like IPK), such as "Model LCDTV004337"
        2) A narrow niche such as "LCD TVs"
        3) A broader niche such as "TVs"
        4) A general niche such as "Home Entertainment"

        I do have IPK, and the thought of building a bunch of sites based on individual products seems more difficult to generate content. So, I'm guessing that #2 or #3 above make more sense. Or, does it work to just build one fairly large site in a general niche (#4 above) with reviews on several products.

        With a large, somewhat general site (like Home Entertainment), you could have reviews on TVs, DVD/Blu Ray players, sound systems, etc. Or, does a site that large dilute the effort and make it too difficult to rank?

        Thanks,
        Jason
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        • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
          Originally Posted by JasonC.biz View Post

          How focused are your sites?

          What I mean is; looking at one of your sites, do you focus on:

          1) A single product (like IPK), such as "Model LCDTV004337"
          2) A narrow niche such as "LCD TVs"
          3) A broader niche such as "TVs"
          4) A general niche such as "Home Entertainment"

          I do have IPK, and the thought of building a bunch of sites based on individual products seems more difficult to generate content. So, I'm guessing that #2 or #3 above make more sense. Or, does it work to just build one fairly large site in a general niche (#4 above) with reviews on several products.

          With a large, somewhat general site (like Home Entertainment), you could have reviews on TVs, DVD/Blu Ray players, sound systems, etc. Or, does a site that large dilute the effort and make it too difficult to rank?

          Thanks,
          Jason
          In my giant sample of one (I used to work with an analyst who would be rolling his eyes about now - "a sample of one?!?"), the site is more like your #2.

          I have Squidoo lenses that focus on one specific product like Model #123 and they do okay (low traffic but decent conversions) but using that approach for my own site would just mean lots of mini sites and I would find that difficult to manage.

          Here were my other reasons for going with #2:
          • If I went with an individual product name and used it in my domain, would I run into any trouble with the manufacturer? I didn't want to take that chance.
          • I find that if I get a site going with a decent amount of content and a consistent posting schedule, new posts get indexed pretty fast (sometimes in minutes) and rank pretty easily on the 1st page for low comp phrases. So, if a new product enters the market in my niche, I have a built-in method for tapping into the traffic for that product through my existing site asap vs. having to create a new site, waiting for it to get indexed and doing additional promotional work for just that one new site.
          • Let's say I did have a site on just Model #123 and I included information that was new to the visitor. "Oh, I didn't know Model #123 didn't include blue widgets. I don't want that one now." Maybe I've at least converted them to Amazon so they can find one with blue widgets OR they could be off searching in Google for a model with blue widgets and I've lost them. If you have a site all about LCD TVs and they don't like something about the one that brought them to your site, you have a chance at converting them on another product if you have written about other models in that niche (and if you've set up navigation so that they could easily find another model to look at).
          Those are my "theories", anyway. I'd like to be able to track my traffic to that level - did the visitor arrive looking at one product but buy a different one?

          I'd also love to know from PaulaC or Dan Brock if they've seen any negative impact from having too many options. Did visitors just get confused by all of the choices and leave the decision for another day?

          I think options #3 and #4 are also viable but may take longer for results based on the competitiveness of a broad niche. With the right planning and domain choice you could even start out focusing on a narrow niche like #2 with the intention of expanding the site to include the more broad range of topics down the road. Fully nail down one segment of the market before trying to bite off the whole thing.

          My thoughts, anyway.
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        • Profile picture of the author TimG
          Originally Posted by JasonC.biz View Post

          This is great info, and I have a question for you who are doing well with Amazon.

          How focused are your sites?

          What I mean is; looking at one of your sites, do you focus on:

          1) A single product (like IPK), such as "Model LCDTV004337"
          2) A narrow niche such as "LCD TVs"
          3) A broader niche such as "TVs"
          4) A general niche such as "Home Entertainment"

          I do have IPK, and the thought of building a bunch of sites based on individual products seems more difficult to generate content. So, I'm guessing that #2 or #3 above make more sense. Or, does it work to just build one fairly large site in a general niche (#4 above) with reviews on several products.

          With a large, somewhat general site (like Home Entertainment), you could have reviews on TVs, DVD/Blu Ray players, sound systems, etc. Or, does a site that large dilute the effort and make it too difficult to rank?

          Thanks,
          Jason
          I'm building my sites on a broad "needs" based niche then adding pages to it that focus on spcific products for that niche. however, I will be building additional sites that I refer to as Forward Operating Bases (FOBs) which are built around a specific product.

          Those FOBs are then linked back to the product page on my broad website adding more link juice and relevancy in the eyes of the search engines.

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          • Profile picture of the author JasonC.biz
            Thanks Erica and Tim - that all makes sense and is in line with my thoughts.

            Jason
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          • Profile picture of the author AHartzell
            I think you can and there are people that do. I just think it takes a little more time and effort. With commissions that low you have to sell high priced items and sell a lot of them.

            As stated before, it can be done though.
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        • Profile picture of the author bonafide70
          Originally Posted by JasonC.biz View Post

          This is great info, and I have a question for you who are doing well with Amazon.

          How focused are your sites?

          What I mean is; looking at one of your sites, do you focus on:

          1) A single product (like IPK), such as "Model LCDTV004337"
          2) A narrow niche such as "LCD TVs"
          3) A broader niche such as "TVs"
          4) A general niche such as "Home Entertainment"

          I do have IPK, and the thought of building a bunch of sites based on individual products seems more difficult to generate content. So, I'm guessing that #2 or #3 above make more sense. Or, does it work to just build one fairly large site in a general niche (#4 above) with reviews on several products.

          With a large, somewhat general site (like Home Entertainment), you could have reviews on TVs, DVD/Blu Ray players, sound systems, etc. Or, does a site that large dilute the effort and make it too difficult to rank?

          Thanks,
          Jason
          The IPK method does both as far as I remember (niche products sites and a general mother site) but I've personally found focusing on the product (or range of products) much better - both for SEO and conversion

          (one of my sites is converting at 22% this week, though lead up to Christmas will always be higher)

          great thread btw!

          Jerry
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    • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
      Originally Posted by StedeTroisi View Post

      Paula, I want to believe you, but with commissions so low, my mind can't imagine the amount of revenue you must be making them. Can you show us an example of one of your "review" pages? Do you feel comfortable doing a fake review?

      Thank,

      - Stede

      We don't give out our websites anymore. Too many people try to steal the content unfortunately. It doesn't help us and it certainly doesn't help them.

      You only have to go to sites like Cnet or any of those big review sites that write really long detailed reviews for examples.

      And you don't need to own the product to review it. And you don't need to write a fake review. You just have to word it the right way.

      You need to let your reader know that you did a hell of a lot of research on it which is why you know so much about it. And when you are writing the review you can refer to what other people think of the product. This is why Amazon is so good because they already have tons of people providing their opinion.

      So you might say something like -

      "The majority of consumers on Amazon loved how easy this coffee machine is to use....whilst most coffee makers require a degree to master, this comes as a nice surprise. Many also expressed how easy it was to froth milk compared to other machines they used."

      Of course, you don't want to keep referring to what other consumers have said for the entire review. For the most part you want to just talk about the features and how they would benefit the consumer. So you might say something like:

      "This espresso machine comes with an automatic frothing device which most other machines don't have. This makes is super easy to create that delicious froth on your next cappuccino.

      This coffee machine makes up to 12 cups of coffee in one go so if you entertain regularly this is the machine for you. You will be able to serve your guests in one go and get back to entertaining".

      Now I've just quickly written that up and I could do better with a few more drafts but it gives you a basic idea of how you can write product reviews without actually having to say you own it.

      We normally write our reviews and then we when get a lot of sales to that page we go out and buy the product. Then we can add even greater detail to the review and add our own photos.
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    • Profile picture of the author createyouwealth
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products. It is very doable.

      The commission rate starts at 4% but goes up to 8.25% if you sell enough products.

      The secret to doing well with Amazon products is to:

      1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
      2. Write exceptionally good product reviews.
      3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.
      Congrads of all the success you have with amazon. I usually hear about ppl not making as much with them.
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      Thanks Paula. Have downloaded your pdf: 7 Traffic methods.
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    • Profile picture of the author billy79
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products. It is very doable.

      The commission rate starts at 4% but goes up to 8.25% if you sell enough products.

      The secret to doing well with Amazon products is to:

      1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
      2. Write exceptionally good product reviews.
      3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.
      Hmm.. Tried this already. Still cannot make it successfull.. Maybe I still not doing well.
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      • Profile picture of the author Charles Butler
        Originally Posted by billy79 View Post

        Hmm.. Tried this already. Still cannot make it successfull.. Maybe I still not doing well.
        1) Are you ranking on any keywords?
        2) Are your reviews actually "exceptionally good?"

        I'm going into Amazon affiliate "hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst". If Im not mistaken there is a YouTube video with Matt Cutts saying that there's an algorithm update targeting long tail keyword rankings, replacing the first page with deep links from authority sites (Amazon.com), allegedly because of Bing bringing the web faster than Google's index (which would explain those commercials, which never made sense to me until Caffeine's release) in conjunction with what happened with Google not being able to index the news fast enough when 9/11 occurred, or something to that extent.

        I'm not saying that's true or not, I'm just saying I'm going to write some very good reviews (I sold CB products quite successfully last year, paying back my investment and then some; I just didn't know what I know know, I was actually pretty close to making good money looking back, but I digress) I just hope nothing changed "too much" about getting on the front page for very specific (read:long-tail) keywords, but I'll report back on my progress when its appropriate.

        Update 8/20:

        Okay, so I have chosen my niche that has higher-end products ($150+ or more, at 4% thats $6 a sale, not bad, but I believe you have to sell smaller products as well to climb that fee structure every month and while I'm doing that I will be promoting CB products in the related niche as well for article fodder.) that are only sold online and not found in retail, and is a buying niche because it is needed at some point in time. I began writing product reviews on my wordpress blog (I am VERY impressed how user-friendly WP has become recently, having not used it in over 1+ years.) So far I am pacing myself as I want to write QUALITY reviews, the length is not all the most important factor to me as long as I thoroughly cover the topics I want to cover in each review I consistently hit 500 word reviews according to EzineArticles. I am hoping for the first time in my article writing lifetime that I get Platinum status (I'm starting again after a year hiatus btw), as Ezines has gotten me to the front page the most and given me the most traffic and sales so my domain is more of my "soft" landing page instead of a squidoo lens or hubpage, which I will also be using. So far I have 5 product reviews and a comparison post - I will be writing top 5 products for less than $200 or something like that tomorrow as well as other posts. It is taking me all day to thoroughly review 2 products and form them into a product review I would personally want to read in researching that product niche, among other things like adding pictures and updating prior pages with new ideas I want to implement. I would like to note that it is becoming easier for me to write reviews, Sojourn mentioned this hurdle when first writing and I am no expert in my niche either, but I would like to know more about it and as a result I can keep everything interesting because I want to write and talk about it. Once Ezines has approved my articles I will begin my traffic generating campaign which hopefully results in landing on the first page as I create as many product reviews for my niche as I can, which depends on the keywords I find and believe I can rank for. Once I've done that or made a sale or two I will move on and make another niche site. Like I said this method had worked for me in the past with CB products, I just never applied it to Amazon products and I hope the method hasn't changed much. I can definitely see that this is going to take time to make a substantial income; Paula to make over $10,000 a month I can only imagine how many pages you have up and running and how long it took to get there; but I do see that it is possible to make that kind of cheddar strictly through Amazon, if one has the discipline to commit to writing quality articles that help the customer instead of rushing to make a garbage review that only helps yourself. I just hope things haven't changed much to the algo to rank on the front page, I am also focusing on becoming an authority site, making articles that people would want to read and recommend.

        Once all that mashed up mayhem is accomplished (More Articles -> Ezines - > Traffic) I will make another update; which should be in about a week or two (roughly the same time it took for Ofthemix to make her first sale on Amazon, if I'm not mistaken.) I just need the taste of waking up to a sale again to really get the ol' proverbial fire burning again, then I can really do some damage lol
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    • Profile picture of the author chas08
      Originally Posted by Stede Troisi View Post

      Paula, I want to believe you, but with commissions so low, my mind can't imagine the amount of revenue you must be making them. Can you show us an example of one of your "review" pages? Do you feel comfortable doing a fake review?

      Thank,

      - Stede
      I have seen a copy of a sample review page in their new eBook and it is well detailed. They show thier earnings and sales since last November. They are the real deal.
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    • Profile picture of the author MatthewT
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products. It is very doable.

      The commission rate starts at 4% but goes up to 8.25% if you sell enough products.

      The secret to doing well with Amazon products is to:

      1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
      2. Write exceptionally good product reviews.
      3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.
      How are you driving your traffic?
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
        Originally Posted by MatthewT View Post

        How are you driving your traffic?
        Hi Matthew,

        There are a variety of ways....I do believe that on her blog she talks about this a little more in detail.

        Definitely don't put all your eggs in one basket....Try a few different ones and double up on the winners!

        Michael
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      • Profile picture of the author Sonomacats
        Originally Posted by MatthewT View Post

        How are you driving your traffic?
        They talk about it in their book in a lot more detail than in their blog.

        Best thing you can do is search on the forum for posts on driving traffic and utilize what you see.

        I not only use her techniques, but I also use straight-on article marketing and a variety of other things.

        A lot depends on how determined you are to get traffic.
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      • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
        Originally Posted by feebpone View Post

        Hi, I am new on internet business. I really want to know how i can make good money as an amazon associate. How do I go about it. I need a mentor. That u could make that amount blows my head

        You should read Paula and Wanda's ebook on how to make money with Amazon. It is outstanding. If you want a link let me know and I will PM you one.

        Hopefully Sojourn will come out with an ebook on Amazon one day and share her perspective also.

        Just a note though. As I have mentioned before, I have seen Paula and Wanda's sites and Sojourn's sites. This is not a get rich quick scheme.
        There is a lot of time and effort put into creating these attractive sites and driving traffic to them - A lot of time and effort.

        These sites provide tremendous value to the consumer and that is why they are so successful.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
        Originally Posted by feebpone View Post

        Hi, I am new on internet business. I really want to know how i can make good money as an amazon associate. How do I go about it. I need a mentor. That u could make that amount blows my head
        Feebpone,

        It took a lot of effort and tweaking for Wanda and Paula C to reach the level they did. They really put in the hard work. To make good money as an amazon associate, you've got to really hunker down and put in your time daily, whether it is researching the products or building traffic to your site.

        You can outsource the entire process and there are paid tools out there that can help but just know that you either have to invest money or time - There are no shortcuts!

        It's not hard to build up a solid business with amazon but just be prepared to pay the price!
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    • Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products. It is very doable.

      The commission rate starts at 4% but goes up to 8.25% if you sell enough products.

      The secret to doing well with Amazon products is to:

      1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
      2. Write exceptionally good product reviews.
      3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.


      Thank your important tips
      Frankly I applied to join Amazon's affiliate program, but didn't go through with it because I considered their commission too low. However after reading your message, I'll reconsider.
      You've been very helpful :p


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    • Profile picture of the author Novoxborder
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products. It is very doable.

      The commission rate starts at 4% but goes up to 8.25% if you sell enough products.

      The secret to doing well with Amazon products is to:

      1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
      2. Write exceptionally good product reviews.
      3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.

      You gotta right a bit more
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    • Profile picture of the author carolbacken
      This is something to look forward to, and a real effective way to make money online.
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    • Profile picture of the author caridead
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products. It is very doable.

      The commission rate starts at 4% but goes up to 8.25% if you sell enough products.

      The secret to doing well with Amazon products is to:

      1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
      2. Write exceptionally good product reviews.
      3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.
      good idea to make it..
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    • Profile picture of the author OmarBriones
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products. It is very doable.

      The commission rate starts at 4% but goes up to 8.25% if you sell enough products.

      The secret to doing well with Amazon products is to:

      1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
      2. Write exceptionally good product reviews.
      3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.
      WOW!! That's very impressive, Paula! Can you expand a little on why you should use text links & not widgets when referring people to Amazon?

      Keep rocking!!

      ~Omar
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    • Profile picture of the author Charlie Houston
      I can't even imagine making $1000 a month much less $10,000. Could you give my new site a look and give me some pointers on getting better conversions?

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      • Profile picture of the author Han Fan
        Originally Posted by Charlie Houston View Post

        I can't even imagine making $1000 a month much less $10,000. Could you give my new site a look and give me some pointers on getting better conversions?

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        no call to action, it's more like information site...

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        • Profile picture of the author LegitIncomes
          Originally Posted by Han Fan View Post

          no call to action, it's more like information site...

          Han
          That's what I thought too.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
        Originally Posted by Charlie Houston View Post

        I can't even imagine making $1000 a month much less $10,000. Could you give my new site a look and give me some pointers on getting better conversions?

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        Hi Charlie,

        Your site needs a much simpler layout. I've found conversions to go up when you have very simple, 2 column layout. You're better off having product reviews in the main part of the site, rather than the right sidebar. The sidebars look a little too cluttered.

        Michael
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Before we get too involved with Charlie, he has another thread about this active. Might be better for all to put feedback there, rather than hijacking this thread...
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      • Originally Posted by Charlie Houston View Post

        I can't even imagine making $1000 a month much less $10,000. Could you give my new site a look and give me some pointers on getting better conversions?

        Male Hair Removal
        put an opt-in box in the upper right corner where you currently have the male pic. Also, I would make your header text a little smaller, with a pic of a smooth male just above. like a headerboard photo.

        Offer a free report and drip it to your list.
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    • Profile picture of the author roley
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products. It is very doable.

      The commission rate starts at 4% but goes up to 8.25% if you sell enough products.

      The secret to doing well with Amazon products is to:

      1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
      2. Write exceptionally good product reviews.
      3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.

      cough.. b.s

      ( Oh yes i see you have a book your promoting on amazon.. oh it must be true then lol )
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      • Profile picture of the author Young Samurai
        Can't believe I missed this thread until now.

        Probably the most value filled thread I've read on WF.

        As someone starting out with a few Amazon sites this is priceless.

        Thank you to all those who have contributed positively.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by Azgard View Post

        How Do you guys promote those sites? I have not made anything from Amazon. I've tried everything but still cant get any sales. Could some one recommend me something?
        One approach is to create content about what a given product is used for.

        For example, if I was promoting a given type of fishing reel, I would first set up a site or part of a site with reviews of the top 3-5 reels of that type. Then I would start writing and distributing articles, videos, etc. about the type of fishing those reels were suited for. The resource box would refer back to the review site.

        If you also post those articles on sites you own and/or control, you can start backlinking them on those sites.

        By writing about the use of the product, rather than the product itself, gets you a better shot at syndication on better websites, IMO.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Manherz
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products. It is very doable.

      The commission rate starts at 4% but goes up to 8.25% if you sell enough products.

      The secret to doing well with Amazon products is to:

      1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
      2. Write exceptionally good product reviews.
      3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.
      thanks Paula... I set up some sites promoting for Christmas using Amazon and some other linkshare and other networks. November I made $50, then November and December close to $500. Converted really well.

      I would have made a lot more if Google hadn't kept yanking me off page 1 on a weekly basis.

      Deadbeat helped me immensely as well as Craig Kaye Info Product Killer
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    • Profile picture of the author Mgriff
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products. It is very doable.

      The commission rate starts at 4% but goes up to 8.25% if you sell enough products.

      The secret to doing well with Amazon products is to:

      1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
      2. Write exceptionally good product reviews.
      3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.
      I agree with this, but I would also say to promote some products that are less expensive to help get up to the higher commission levels like 8.25%.

      I especially think that promoting Amazon products is a must during the last half of the year. My conversion percentage this year was close to 10%. That is hard to beat anywhere else.
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    • Profile picture of the author feliciayapsl
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products. It is very doable.

      The commission rate starts at 4% but goes up to 8.25% if you sell enough products.

      The secret to doing well with Amazon products is to:

      1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
      2. Write exceptionally good product reviews.
      3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.
      Yup.. Totally agree with Paula
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    • Profile picture of the author Sam Fitz
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.
      Thanks for sharing your insights Paula. They're obviously very effective. I'm just curious - why is it that text links are better than widgets?

      Thanks in Advance
      -Sam
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      • Profile picture of the author Ellen C Braun
        Originally Posted by Sam Fitz View Post

        Thanks for sharing your insights Paula. They're obviously very effective. I'm just curious - why is it that text links are better than widgets?

        Thanks in Advance
        -Sam
        Not sure if Paula is keeping up with this thread, so I'll just chime in- I think that widgets are "bannery" and look like ads, which people are less likely to click on than normal text links.

        It's worth testing, however, I've read this on several top amazon affiliate marketer's blogs, so I haven't used any of amazon's widgets in ages.
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      • Profile picture of the author NateRivers
        Originally Posted by Sam Fitz View Post

        Thanks for sharing your insights Paula. They're obviously very effective. I'm just curious - why is it that text links are better than widgets?

        Thanks in Advance
        -Sam

        I don't have an answer for why really.... but I can vouch for her statement. Text links convert much better and have a higher CTR. I think that one reason is, is that it is in the review they are reading. Most people subconsciously ignore banner ads and anything not in the content they were seeking, so text links helps with that.
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    • Profile picture of the author irakly
      Nice info. Thanks

      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products. It is very doable.

      The commission rate starts at 4% but goes up to 8.25% if you sell enough products.

      The secret to doing well with Amazon products is to:

      1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
      2. Write exceptionally good product reviews.
      3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.
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    • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products. It is very doable.

      The commission rate starts at 4% but goes up to 8.25% if you sell enough products.

      The secret to doing well with Amazon products is to:

      1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
      2. Write exceptionally good product reviews.
      3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.
      Great advice Paula. I made the newbie mistake of promoting products with too low a price tag when I started out.

      Now the only low ticket products on Amazon that I promote are my own books. That extra 4% - 8.25% is a nice bonus to royalties.

      If you find you are not thrilled with Amazon I have had great results with LinkShare since you can get some fairly high commissions and CPA income.

      Personally I like to mix it up and always have a few different sources - all affiliate programs have their advantages and disadvantages
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    • Profile picture of the author Sea1c
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post


      3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.
      So you don't use the widgets? Have you found better conversion without them? I have only been using them because I figured as and when the price changed I would have an accurate website. Anyone else found better one way or the other?
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by Sea1c View Post

        So you don't use the widgets? Have you found better conversion without them? I have only been using them because I figured as and when the price changed I would have an accurate website. Anyone else found better one way or the other?
        Over the years I've been an Amazon affiliate, practically since the beginning, I've never been able to get any results from any of the widgets I've tried. On the other hand, in-context text links have worked the best overall.
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        • Profile picture of the author claycath
          I agree with the text links but I have had some success with the carousel widget. The others aren't worth trying.

          People also like to click on the pictures of the product so make sure they are linked back to Amazon with your affiliate link.
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        • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          I've never been able to get any results from any of the widgets I've tried.
          I had the same problem with my own sites BUT I found the opposite with Hubpages.

          I found that for general product type keywords you could make use of the sidebars and the widgets to funnel the reader to your own preferred product.

          So in the sidebar you would have a quick overview/featured product with a couple of positive points about said product.

          Under that you would place some well themed widgets. The featured product and sidebar widget combined provided more interest and sales than the link in the main content.

          The keyword showed strong intent though so that will obviously sway things. Sometimes people are just looking for a shopping list, so test the two.
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    • Profile picture of the author beginner warrior
      What does "use text links not widgets" mean?

      I don't know what a widget it in internet marketing terms.

      Is that like a colorful image button or something?


      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      We make on average around $10,000 a month on Amazon products. It is very doable.

      The commission rate starts at 4% but goes up to 8.25% if you sell enough products.

      The secret to doing well with Amazon products is to:

      1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
      2. Write exceptionally good product reviews.
      3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.
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      • Profile picture of the author AD25
        Originally Posted by beginner warrior View Post

        What does "use text links not widgets" mean?

        I don't know what a widget it in internet marketing terms.

        Is that like a colorful image button or something?
        It means use in context text links.
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
          Originally Posted by AD25 View Post

          It means use in context text links.
          You will see a drastic increase in conversion just by shifting to text links. People tend to put more faith into clicking on the less flashy links!

          Plus, don't overdo your links and spread them out throughout your post.

          Also, be sure that any pictures of your products on your site link directly to your affiliate page as well...Many people forget to do that!
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          • Profile picture of the author Patrick_Kelly
            I agree. From my experience, using text links is always far more successful than using one of the Amazon widgets.

            I had sites that performed really poorly with widgets. When I changed my approach to use text links and well written product reviews, my results went up enormously.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimG
    I recently started incorporating Amazon into my income generation efforts after reading some of Dan Brock's stuff and seeing several threads in this forum where other people were enjoying fantastic success as an Amazon affiliate.

    I have a few sites that I have been testing different things on to include using text links instead of widgets and my conversion percentage is slowly climbing. Also, I'm focused on selling a ton of small items in order to increase my affiliate percentage so that I can receive a bigger payout for more expensive items.

    Everything seems to be working because I've made more from Amazon this quarter then I have from all of my previous quarters combined.

    The key as PaulaC pointed out is to find the right product and write high quality reviews. This isn't like adsense where if you have a garbage article on your site the visitor clicks an adsense ad to leave. The high quality content combined with Amazon's reputation is what is creating the sale from what I can tell on my sites.

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    • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
      Originally Posted by TimG View Post


      The key as PaulaC pointed out is to find the right product and write high quality reviews. This isn't like adsense where if you have a garbage article on your site the visitor clicks an adsense ad to leave. The high quality content combined with Amazon's reputation is what is creating the sale from what I can tell on my sites.

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  • Profile picture of the author Samuel Baker
    Amazon is something I am looking to get into further down the line and judging from what the above Warriors have stated that the potential is there for great earnings and return.

    Will be definitely looking into some of the Amazon Affiliate resources posted around this forum when the time comes.

    Stick to it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Emily Meeks
    It has to be said: you're asking the wrong question.

    Are others seriously making money with Amazon? I think you know the answer to that one already. What you SHOULD be asking instead is, "How are you seriously making money?"

    It's not a matter of possibility, but technique. If others are making money and you're not, you're apparently doing something that they're not. Don't waste your energy on whether or not you *can* do something - I'll just say, "I don't know, can you?" If you ask me HOW to do something, though, that's a different story...
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    • Profile picture of the author farisanuar
      Originally Posted by moneysoapbox View Post

      It has to be said: you're asking the wrong question.

      Are others seriously making money with Amazon? I think you know the answer to that one already. What you SHOULD be asking instead is, "How are you seriously making money?"

      It's not a matter of possibility, but technique. If others are making money and you're not, you're apparently doing something that they're not. Don't waste your energy on whether or not you *can* do something - I'll just say, "I don't know, can you?" If you ask me HOW to do something, though, that's a different story...


      Hey this is good!

      can u please please please teach me on how ure making tons of money from being an affliate for amazon?
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    • Profile picture of the author smither07
      Originally Posted by moneysoapbox View Post

      It has to be said: you're asking the wrong question.

      Are others seriously making money with Amazon? I think you know the answer to that one already. What you SHOULD be asking instead is, "How are you seriously making money?"

      It's not a matter of possibility, but technique. If others are making money and you're not, you're apparently doing something that they're not. Don't waste your energy on whether or not you *can* do something - I'll just say, "I don't know, can you?" If you ask me HOW to do something, though, that's a different story...
      Yeah you are right, it depends on the person. A lot of people are making money using amazon.
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      • Profile picture of the author pogul
        Echoing what others have already said - THANK YOU for all of the great information in this thread!!!

        Quick question: So everyone favors the text links in content over the widgets, but I'm curious if there is formula for the text links you're using. For example:

        "...and we found that the sound on the ABC system was much better than..." where ABC system is the link back to Amazon.

        or

        "...we found that Amazon had the best price on the ABC system..." where Amazon is the actual link back to the item on Amazon.

        I guess the better way to ask is, when they click your link are they aware that they are clicking a link that is taking them to Amazon to purchase the product? Or are the links more concealed such as - product name, "more info", etc?

        And is it correct that when someone clicks through your affiliate link to Amazon, they get a 24 hour cookie that will pay YOU regardless of what they buy?

        If that is the case, what happens if they click through to Amazon from site A (your competitor) at Noon, and then click through to Amazon from your site at 1PM - does your cookie override the earlier affiliate's cookie?

        Thanks again for all of the help you all are providing!
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    • Profile picture of the author billyba
      excellent point dear,,,,I'm a newbie trying to glean as much information as I can about the world of IM. Information overload pops into my head. But thanks for your comment. It strikes a cord!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author billyba
      Originally Posted by moneysoapbox View Post

      It has to be said: you're asking the wrong question.

      Are others seriously making money with Amazon? I think you know the answer to that one already. What you SHOULD be asking instead is, "How are you seriously making money?"

      It's not a matter of possibility, but technique. If others are making money and you're not, you're apparently doing something that they're not. Don't waste your energy on whether or not you *can* do something - I'll just say, "I don't know, can you?" If you ask me HOW to do something, though, that's a different story...
      excellent point dear,,,,I'm a newbie trying to glean as much information as I can about the world of IM. Information overload pops into my head. But thanks for your comment. It strikes a cord!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Marvin Johnston
      Originally Posted by moneysoapbox View Post

      It has to be said: you're asking the wrong question.

      Are others seriously making money with Amazon? I think you know the answer to that one already. What you SHOULD be asking instead is, "How are you seriously making money?"

      It's not a matter of possibility, but technique. If others are making money and you're not, you're apparently doing something that they're not. Don't waste your energy on whether or not you *can* do something - I'll just say, "I don't know, can you?" If you ask me HOW to do something, though, that's a different story...
      Interesting that we seem to think alike as that was my first reaction as well .

      That said, I immediately thought of Roger Bannister and the 4 minute mile. I don't know the figures now, but after he broke the 4 minute mile, a number of others knew it was possible and also broke the 4 minute mile. Much like John Reese and the $1M day sales.

      Knowing that something is possible certainly makes it easier to attain.

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    • Profile picture of the author payday911
      Originally Posted by moneysoapbox View Post

      It has to be said: you're asking the wrong question.

      Are others seriously making money with Amazon? I think you know the answer to that one already. What you SHOULD be asking instead is, "How are you seriously making money?"

      It's not a matter of possibility, but technique. If others are making money and you're not, you're apparently doing something that they're not. Don't waste your energy on whether or not you *can* do something - I'll just say, "I don't know, can you?" If you ask me HOW to do something, though, that's a different story...

      Dammit you beat me to the punch!!
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    • Profile picture of the author suemax
      Originally Posted by moneysoapbox View Post

      It has to be said: you're asking the wrong question.

      Are others seriously making money with Amazon? I think you know the answer to that one already. What you SHOULD be asking instead is, "How are you seriously making money?"

      It's not a matter of possibility, but technique. If others are making money and you're not, you're apparently doing something that they're not. Don't waste your energy on whether or not you *can* do something - I'll just say, "I don't know, can you?" If you ask me HOW to do something, though, that's a different story...
      Bravo to Emily - this is a FAR more positive approach, AND of course brings in very useful and financially-superior learnings!

      I tinkered with Amazon before Christmas but didn't put enough time or effort in. It is definitely on my "shopping list" of things to get into. I am focussing on "one thing at a time" right now. Quite a challenge in IM when so many of you on here are sharing so much useful information. Thanks guys!
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  • Profile picture of the author actionplanbiz
    i just started with amazon kind of.. got a few niche sites. but not a whole lot of cash coming in. but its completely relying on SEO and i didnt really like that fact so i toned the amazon sites down a bit and started focusing on other methods.
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  • Profile picture of the author blue_gurl
    being an Amazon affilitate is just like being a sales rep.
    write good content to convince your customers to buy.

    they are also right about selling items over $150
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    • Profile picture of the author webmasteruk
      I feel like I am posting the same post but spinning it in a different way. A weird sort of deja vu.

      Main thing number 1 something that I preech about CONTENT!

      Now a lot of people say reviews but if you know something that others dont then that will be killer content and a help to the internet.

      Not only a help to the internet but a help to your organic traffic and possible comissions!

      One more tip. If you treat your site as king you will be king. All good content goes on your site or blog. Forget article directories for good backlinks! Content and design of your site and how people feel on your site is the main way of getting good posture on search engines.

      Thats my opinion.

      A few ideas there
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  • Profile picture of the author dean_holland
    The original question it has to be said is a bit of a silly one - Is anyone making serious money as an amazon affiliate ?

    Errr... What do you think?

    So you've been promoting their stuff for what a month or so and this makes you think because you havent hit the 'Big Bucks' that no one is ?

    Don't think for one minute I'm attacking you here man in any sense, I just thought if I wrote it that way you might see how crazy your question now looks

    I'm not either for 1 second going to pretend I can advise you on this, I make about $5 a month off a few products on a niche site I have from months ago that I've never touched since.

    I do however have a friend that makes upwards of $45,000 per month from Amazon

    I've seen it with my own eyes... So cool

    Good luck with it

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  • Profile picture of the author TimG
    I was checking my stats this morning and realized that I have made more from Amazon.com in the last 8 days then I made in April and May combined. This has me extrmely excited because I've really started working Amazon and the positive results are nice to see.

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    • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
      Originally Posted by TimG View Post

      I was checking my stats this morning and realized that I have made more from Amazon.com in the last 8 days then I made in April and May combined. This has me extremely excited because I've really started working Amazon and the positive results are nice to see.

      Tim
      Tim, Congrats! So much more rewarding when there's MONEY at the end of all that writing and hard work. Appreciate the update, too. Can never get too many "look, it's working!" kinds of posts. Very motivating!

      I went back and checked mine, too. Here's a breakdown of my Amazon commissions for the last several months:

      March - Conversion rate: 2.41% 40 items shipped $ 41.66 earned
      April - Conversion rate: 3.15% 47 items shipped $ 39.07 earned
      May - Conversion rate: 4.46% 75 items shipped $175.38 earned

      June 1st-8th - Conversion rate: 5.65% 39 items shipped, $99.73 earned

      One week and a day into June and I'm already at more than 50% of May's commissions and also more than March and April combined.

      The site I built to focus on Amazon and product reviews was started mid-April and didn't see it's first sale until May. The impact to May was obviously significant.

      Notice how the conversion rate went up, too? This is because my previous attempts at Amazon sales came from sites that were focused on "how to" type niches where I forced in Amazon product links in hopes of a sale vs. the latest site which is very product focused and targeted at people who are actively shopping for these products.

      As I described in my earlier post, May included $90 from the single, latest website (the Amazon focused site) which means I had about $80 in commissions from my other sites - still an increase over March and April. This means my other sites saw an increase in commissions, too, just at lower dollar amounts. I can chalk that up to having focused on adding more content more rapidly to my other sites. (Again, credit to PaulaC's blog post about how she and Wanda wrote their tails off to put out more content on a daily basis. Inspired me to spend more time writing and less time refreshing stat pages.)

      Another tip: As several posters have mentioned, targeting products that retail for over $150 helps boost commissions. Keep in mind that some products have a single retail price of less than $150 but are often bought in multiples. Lawn chairs and towels are examples of these types of products. Rarely does anyone buy just one lawn chair or one towel. Products where several items are usually bought at one time and combined can total over $150 are great, too, AND boost your sale quantity at the same time.
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      • Profile picture of the author Elle Holder
        Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post

        The site I built to focus on Amazon and product reviews was started mid-April and didn't see it's first sale until May. The impact to May was obviously significant.
        Erica, quick question, and if I missed the answer in a subsequent post, my apologies.

        From this I get the sense that your first review sites were aimed at individual niches, but your most recent site is a general review site focusing on a variety of products. Am I correct?
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        • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
          Originally Posted by Elle Holder View Post

          Erica, quick question, and if I missed the answer in a subsequent post, my apologies.

          From this I get the sense that your first review sites were aimed at individual niches, but your most recent site is a general review site focusing on a variety of products. Am I correct?
          Elle - Actually, the first sites where I started including Amazon were built to promote Clickbank products but evolved into a great place to promote products on Amazon. I have 3 such sites that went that direction. The posts are all "how-to do x" but it started to become obvious that some products were needed to actually "do x" and so I started linking to those products in my posts. These are not review sites.

          The latest site - the one started in April - is specifically a review site and is focused around one product of which there are multiple versions of this product on the market (like laptops). I then included two kinds of posts on my site:

          • Review posts - discusses one model of this product in detail (average word count per post is probably 1000)
          • Buying Information - gives tips for how to get the best deal, finding the best price, important criteria to look for in these products, defines the terminology used to describe these products and their features, how to compare these products, etc.
          This made category set-up quite simple, for now. Category 1= Reviews, Category 2=Buying Guide Information.

          As a side note, I also developed a set of common tags - things like brand, all the most important features, and price bands ($100-200, $200-300, etc) so that someone getting to the first page could click on tags by brand, price, or feature and quickly find a list of reviews of just the products that included that tag criteria.

          Hope that helps!

          Erica
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      • Profile picture of the author willcosys
        Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post

        Another tip: As several posters have mentioned, targeting products that retail for over $150 helps boost commissions. Keep in mind that some products have a single retail price of less than $150 but are often bought in multiples. Lawn chairs and towels are examples of these types of products. Rarely does anyone buy just one lawn chair or one towel. Products where several items are usually bought at one time and combined can total over $150 are great, too, AND boost your sale quantity at the same time.
        That tip is absolutely golden. I never even considered that. I am just now starting to get into amazon as cpa can be up and down from a seo perspective. I will definitely be using this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
      Originally Posted by TimG View Post

      I was checking my stats this morning and realized that I have made more from Amazon.com in the last 8 days then I made in April and May combined. This has me extrmely excited because I've really started working Amazon and the positive results are nice to see.

      Tim
      Way to go Tim. I look forward to more posts.

      Craig
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      • Profile picture of the author TimG
        Originally Posted by Craig McPherson View Post

        Way to go Tim. I look forward to more posts.

        Craig
        Thanks Craig - I appreciate that...I'm just starting to crack the Amazon affiliate shell but from what I can tell the rewards are looking real juicy -

        I'll have more to post on this money making strategy.

        Respectfully,
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      • Profile picture of the author TimG
        Originally Posted by Craig McPherson View Post

        Way to go Tim. I look forward to more posts.

        Craig
        Craig,
        There is some additional info regarding Amazon in this thread also: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...s-convert.html

        Respectfully,
        Tim
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        • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
          Originally Posted by TimG View Post

          Craig,
          There is some additional info regarding Amazon in this thread also: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...s-convert.html

          Respectfully,
          Tim
          Many thanks Tim,

          I have just been on a bookmarking frenzy and will check both threads often.

          As an aside, I have to agree on picking items that can be bought in multiples.
          I sell a fair bit of body butter on Amazon and three outta four people always buy the multi packs of different scents.
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  • Profile picture of the author yunoblog
    I agree that that we should look at promoting items with a price of over $150 but I think it would also be a good idea to start off with lower priced items in the beginning in order to boost your referral rate.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimG
    Erica,
    Those are fantastic results. Right now I am targeting low priced items and building a series of sites (heck one is in my signature below - the prevent fleas website) so that I can build my affiliate commission percentage then I will start to target higher ticket items.

    Based on your commissions it looks as if you are already doing that or targeting the items bought in multiples such as the towels or lawn chairs - great tip by the way

    I'd love to trade some information via PM or email if you ever get a chance. I have something else also that I want to run by you.

    Respectfully,
    Tim
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    • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
      Originally Posted by TimG View Post

      Erica,
      Those are fantastic results. Right now I am targeting low priced items and building a series of sites (heck one is in my signature below - the prevent fleas website) so that I can build my affiliate commission percentage then I will start to target higher ticket items.

      Based on your commissions it looks as if you are already doing that or targeting the items bought in multiples such as the towels or lawn chairs - great tip by the way

      I'd love to trade some information via PM or email if you ever get a chance. I have something else also that I want to run by you.

      Respectfully,
      Tim
      Saw your flea example from the other thread - in fact, that made the whole "need" based products vs. "want" based products click for me. Might partially explain that really strong conversion rate you have there.

      PM sent.

      Thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author TimG
        Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post

        Saw your flea example from the other thread - in fact, that made the whole "need" based products vs. "want" based products click for me. Might partially explain that really strong conversion rate you have there.

        PM sent.

        Thanks!
        Yes - that site and a few other sites I have built around "needs" are really starting to get hot with traffic and more importantly conversions. The sites are quick and easy to make and the traffic is targeted when it arrives and once I send it to Amazon it is converting extremely well.

        I just responded back to your PM -

        Respectfully,
        Tim
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        • Profile picture of the author raven007
          Hi Tim.....how do you build your sites ? buy a domain then install wordpress ? what theme ? or do you use some other free method first ?
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  • Profile picture of the author tyroneshum
    I haven't made much money from Amazon yet and have always "had" bucks from my membership programs and also other affiliate programs from my business partners and ventures. With Amazon, I think there's a lot of work to take first and then eventually you'll see the results coming -- although not the fast process you expected.
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  • Profile picture of the author yianni
    in terms of amazon,

    how have people found using their endless program with regards to making money as an associate

    is the strategy different?
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  • Profile picture of the author DrGUID
    I've sold a few items, but it's still small money.

    As everyone else says, the key is to start off marketing small items so you get your commission rate up. Electrical items are good for this. Also don't bother with books and DVDs because if someone is buying these they usually go direct to Amazon - concentrate on stuff people don't know where it's best to buy from.

    And I don't agree with the other poster that Clickbank is done to death - I found a small software product with low gravity but it converts like crazy! There are great Clickbank products if you have a good old rummage around the Marketplace.
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    • Profile picture of the author traceye
      Um yes.

      In the past two years (or thereabouts) I've made ...



      I've been keeping a blog of my results (which I started November 2008) over at: Info Product Killer Review - Real Results!

      It was using the techniques from IPK, but you will probably still find some good info there if you ignore the affiliate links.

      And yes all the results I've posted on my blog are legit.

      Tracey
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      • Profile picture of the author JayPeete
        Originally Posted by traceye View Post

        Um yes.

        In the past two years (or thereabouts) I've made ...



        I've been keeping a blog of my results (which I started November 2008) over at: Info Product Killer Review - Real Results!

        It was using the techniques from IPK, but you will probably still find some good info there if you ignore the affiliate links.

        And yes all the results I've posted on my blog are legit.

        Tracey
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      • Profile picture of the author TimG
        Originally Posted by traceye View Post

        Um yes.

        In the past two years (or thereabouts) I've made ...



        I've been keeping a blog of my results (which I started November 2008) over at: Info Product Killer Review - Real Results!

        It was using the techniques from IPK, but you will probably still find some good info there if you ignore the affiliate links.

        And yes all the results I've posted on my blog are legit.

        Tracey
        That's an amazing amount from Amazon...Your blog postings using IPK were exceptional also as I spent some time going through them. Lot to be learned from what you posted in terms of when it was workign for you (seasonal)..etc.

        Respectfully,
        Tim
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        • Profile picture of the author traceye
          Originally Posted by TimG View Post

          That's an amazing amount from Amazon...Your blog postings using IPK were exceptional also as I spent some time going through them. Lot to be learned from what you posted in terms of when it was workign for you (seasonal)..etc.

          Respectfully,
          Tim
          Thanks, I wasn't sure if I wanted to post it because I usually like to keep a low profile - but if it inspires anyone then it's all for the good.

          Besides I think Amazon products are WAY EASIER to make money from that info products or adsense (well in my experience anyway).
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      • Profile picture of the author cristeto1981
        Wow. This is great. May be I should get into this.
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        • Profile picture of the author inter123
          A great informative thread.

          Just curious to know how useful these sites really are to Amazon (not that it matters).

          It seems to be a case of targetting soft sales, a bit like a person interested in purchase, visiting a cell phone or car show room. Totally the opposite of say a door to door salesmen visiting without announcing and selling a product the person has not given the remotest thought of buying.

          There is a good chance they are on the first page for the majority of products, there is a good possibility the person would visit Amazons' site without the need for an affliate. So why bother pay a commission to someone?

          I suppose having two websites on the first page does increase the odds in their favour of visitors and ultimately sales.
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      • Profile picture of the author liveurlyf
        Traceye, dats why u seem so happy (LOL) very nice.
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      • Profile picture of the author VASEO1
        Originally Posted by traceye View Post

        Um yes.

        In the past two years (or thereabouts) I've made ...



        I've been keeping a blog of my results (which I started November 2008) over at: Info Product Killer Review - Real Results!

        It was using the techniques from IPK, but you will probably still find some good info there if you ignore the affiliate links.

        And yes all the results I've posted on my blog are legit.

        Tracey
        oh its really fentastic earnings

        i am also having 5-6 blogs promoting amazon products but not getting atleast 10-20$ every month
        any suggestions please
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        • Profile picture of the author XRay
          Even though Amazon isn't the primary focus of my business, after looking at my Earnings Report from 9/1/2009 - 12/23/2010, I may need to give it a little more attention. I generated $800.50 in net advertising fees on $13,671.63 in net revenues on 326 items sold during that period (add another $250.34 in commissions on $2503.38 in sales from a CJ merchant from 9/1/2010 - 12/23/2010 and $97.50 in earnings on $897.47 in GMB from EPN during 9/1/2010 - 12/23/2010 period). This was mostly from 2 platforms - 1 (of 2) Halloween niche affiliate site & 1 Squidoo lens.

          I need to to do something about that Squidoo lens - don't like the idea of having a good money maker tied to Squidoo (went through that before during the first Squidoo slap - ruined my 1st profitable Clickbank campaign) or any other freebie site, but can't take my focus off my main niche.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan Manherz
        Originally Posted by traceye View Post

        Um yes.

        In the past two years (or thereabouts) I've made ...



        It was using the techniques from IPK, but you will probably still find some good info there if you ignore the affiliate links.

        And yes all the results I've posted on my blog are legit.

        Tracey
        That is awesome. I took the IPK course and used it as well. I seemed to get better results using IPK techniques on my own wordpress sites than using the Netblazer sites that he recommended. Did you find the same?
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        • Profile picture of the author traceye
          Originally Posted by Dan Manherz View Post

          That is awesome. I took the IPK course and used it as well. I seemed to get better results using IPK techniques on my own wordpress sites than using the Netblazer sites that he recommended. Did you find the same?
          I never used Netblazer - couldn't really understand the value of it, like you I either used my own static html sites or wordpress blogs. Both worked great. (Wordpress is definately easier)

          I didn't follow IPK to the letter though, prefering to write long original reviews (similar to Amazonian Profit Plan I think).

          And I did get backlinks to my sites as well from articles and other methods and didn't just rely on internal linking (even though I think the internal linking methods were actually really helpful).

          Recently though I've started to build up more authority sites rather than mini niche sites as many of the other posters here have also done. It has been working a lot better.

          Tracey
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  • Profile picture of the author LK
    What do you do when it appears that not a lot of people are searching for a certain product name?

    Like, I was looking for products to promote on Amazon yesterday and found some that looked rather good in a niche that I have interest in. However, when I checked the search volume (in google's keyword tool) for the individual product names, it just came up with "not enough data".
    Would you still go for the product (I'm pretty sure it's converting well on amazon) or would you find something else where you can get an actual figure in terms of search volume?
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    • Profile picture of the author TimG
      Originally Posted by LK View Post

      What do you do when it appears that not a lot of people are searching for a certain product name?

      Like, I was looking for products to promote on Amazon yesterday and found some that looked rather good in a niche that I have interest in. However, when I checked the search volume (in google's keyword tool) for the individual product names, it just came up with "not enough data".
      Would you still go for the product (I'm pretty sure it's converting well on amazon) or would you find something else where you can get an actual figure in terms of search volume?
      I would venture to guess that if it is on Amazon someone is buying it so there is a market, small though it may be.

      Have you checked to see if any articles have been submitted for the product/niche on Ezinearticles.com? If some show up then you can assume someone is captializing on the product.

      Respectfully,
      Tim
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  • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
    Originally Posted by LK View Post

    What do you do when it appears that not a lot of people are searching for a certain product name?

    Like, I was looking for products to promote on Amazon yesterday and found some that looked rather good in a niche that I have interest in. However, when I checked the search volume (in google's keyword tool) for the individual product names, it just came up with "not enough data".
    Would you still go for the product (I'm pretty sure it's converting well on amazon) or would you find something else where you can get an actual figure in terms of search volume?
    LK - That's a good question. I went back just now to check the Google Keyword tool volume to see the exact match search volume for the specific product names that are bringing the bulk of the traffic to my site and those product names either have really low search volume (less than 50) or show No Data.

    So, in my case anyway, No Data or low search volume did not equal zero traffic. For example, there's one model for which I'm getting 5 visitors a day, my review page for that model is #5 in Google, and yet the Google keyword tool showed no exact search volume for that model.

    I'd make sure it's something that has a decent number of reviews on Amazon and also check other forums in that niche, if any exist. Are people talking about the product? Asking others about how it works? Then there's probably a need for a good, quality review somewhere.

    You said something I think is key: a niche in which you have interest. If you are interested in the niche and use that in your writing, it sincerely helps. Gives you perspective, allows you to relate better to your visitors, and gives you an advantage over someone who may have chosen that niche for its monetary value but has no interest or experience in the niche itself.

    If you, having an interest in the niche, think a review site could be valuable then I'd say give it a shot!
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  • Profile picture of the author Neil V
    Just a quick tip if you are looking for hot products to promote.

    Go directly to Alexa the Web Information Company

    Alexa gives you the hot searches for the day and focus on popular products.

    Every now and again you will find top amazon products in the top 100 searches for the day

    Take these products create a hub page and promote them

    This will get a ton of traffic and sales fast and the trends usually lasts for a few months

    You need to make sure though you check alexa every day for 2-3 minutes to uncover these golden nuggets

    I have created a quick video. if you would like a copy let me know and i will try to post it here.
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    • Profile picture of the author inter123
      Soon or later Amazon will become saturated.

      Already see the effects now. Sometimes when searching on google I see two or three websites already promoting a product which is great for Amazon.

      When it comes to commission, with the competition there is less chance. I am not sure if its a viable long term strategy.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ryan D
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        This is taking a slightly different spin on selling through Amazon.

        I was actually kinda amazed at the volume of sales you can get if you offer a product on Amazon. I am experienced in e-commerce, so I kinda know how to approach suppliers and whatnot. But I realize others might not want to get into it, but if you DID then there is a great opportunity.

        As a rest, I tried to drill down into smaller categories and sort through products that appeared to be a little higher margin AND were top 1000 sellers in that particular category. E.g. No books or whatever, but real actual usable products.

        This is the part that takes work, but it pays off for people that are willing to do a bit more work. You need to get a list of 5 or 10 of these products and find the distributors, get the wholesale price, and find out if they dropship. This takes a bit of work, but becomes easier once you get started.

        After that, you want to offer the product for the lowest price, even if you lose a few bucks on it. Selling more, delivering quicker, and getting feedback puts you as the "preferred seller" for that product. So when they click through the product, they go straight to you instead of a list of other vendors. It also serves another purpose, it puts you in a better position to get a discount through the supplier for the volume you might be doing.

        I picked 2 products in a particular category and did this for the month of April. In May, I raised my price slightly and things picked up.

        For product A, I made a profit of $765 after all shipping, amazon, product fees.

        For product B, I made a profit of $ 490 after all fees.

        The downside to this, is that you're kind of making money off volume as opposed to a lot per product. I would never do this personally unless I was just starting out OR I had someone I could pass this off to. In my case, I have someone that does this whole thing for me.

        Might be worth checking out.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimG
      Originally Posted by Neil V View Post

      Just a quick tip if you are looking for hot products to promote.

      Go directly to Alexa the Web Information Company

      Alexa gives you the hot searches for the day and focus on popular products.

      Every now and again you will find top amazon products in the top 100 searches for the day

      Take these products create a hub page and promote them

      This will get a ton of traffic and sales fast and the trends usually lasts for a few months

      You need to make sure though you check alexa every day for 2-3 minutes to uncover these golden nuggets

      I have created a quick video. if you would like a copy let me know and i will try to post it here.
      Neil,
      Good tip and I visited your blog today - you have some good information on profiting from Amazon on your site and clearly know your stuff....you've been holding back brother...lol

      Respectfully,
      Tim
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      • Profile picture of the author shmeeko69
        I must admit that I've wrote a few reasonable articles about the most popular Amazon product the Kindle DX e-book reader with Ezine articles & got views & traffic, but haven't had any sales, although I've had a couple of sales from other Amazon products.

        I will certainly take on board the comments about writing articles about higher priced goods, quality of review content & text link only instead of banners & widgets.

        Cheers

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      • Profile picture of the author Hank Scott
        I recently (approx. three months back) signed up as an Amazon affiliate, but haven't actually tried it yet (too busy with other things), even though I have a couple of books for sale through Create Space...

        After reading some of the comments here, I think it's a good idea for me to get cracking promoting Amazon products.

        Anyone hear about the 24 hour credit for all sales made thru your Amazon affiliate link (back wash effect), meaning you get credited for all sales made to the same buyer on Amazon within 24 hours after clicking your link, even if it's something other than what you are promoting?
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      • Profile picture of the author Devid Farah
        It is possible to make money as an Amazon affiliate.

        However, there are two things you need to be aware of:

        First of all, it may take some time before you start seeing huge results such as some of the more veteran Internet Marketers.

        These people have been working on their strategies for months and months. They did not just start making money over night. What you don’t see is all the hard work and effort that went into making all of those sales possible.

        The second thing is you need to experiment until you find something that works for you. If you have honestly given your current strategy your best effort and it is not performing as well as you would like, then reevaluate your strategy.

        You may need to change some things up. You have to be willing to accept the fact that your strategy just might be wrong.

        The fact is you can make really good money as an Amazon affiliate. You just have to stick to it.

        Most people who don’t make money online are the ones who either did not have a good plan or gave up to quickly.
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      • Profile picture of the author trafficforfree
        To make good money with Amazon there are two routes to take.

        • Dominate a niche of products ie: One person made millions focusing on cell phone accessories.
        • Drive massive traffic to Amazon, there site is gear up to convert visitors, even if they do not buy the product you are promoting and then go on to buy something else, you still earn the commission.
        Good luck :p
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    • Profile picture of the author nubchai
      Originally Posted by Neil V View Post

      Just a quick tip if you are looking for hot products to promote.

      Go directly to Alexa the Web Information Company

      Alexa gives you the hot searches for the day and focus on popular products.

      Every now and again you will find top amazon products in the top 100 searches for the day

      Take these products create a hub page and promote them

      This will get a ton of traffic and sales fast and the trends usually lasts for a few months

      You need to make sure though you check alexa every day for 2-3 minutes to uncover these golden nuggets

      I have created a quick video. if you would like a copy let me know and i will try to post it here.
      Neil it's been a while since I wrote a Hub Page. Do you put your affiliate link to the product you're promoting within the Hub Page? My memory of HP is that you put your Amazon and Adsense affiliate codes in your account profile. Then based on content HP embeds a variety of related Amazon and Adsense ads. And sometimes you get a lot of ads - beyond the product you're promoting.

      Thanks,
      Sandy
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      • Profile picture of the author traceye
        Originally Posted by nubchai View Post

        Neil it's been a while since I wrote a Hub Page. Do you put your affiliate link to the product you're promoting within the Hub Page? My memory of HP is that you put your Amazon and Adsense affiliate codes in your account profile. Then based on content HP embeds a variety of related Amazon and Adsense ads. And sometimes you get a lot of ads - beyond the product you're promoting.

        Thanks,
        Sandy
        Yes you can put your aff link directly into the hub (but only two times). Best positions are at the top right in a link capsule, and then once in the body of the text - again somewhere near the top.

        In addition you can add an amazon capsule, but I prefer to put these down lower since you only get revenue share of these with HubPages and not the full commission and you want your own links to get priority.

        Make sure you have lots of text though (for Google) and maybe a picture or video as well so it doesn't look too spammy which Hubpages hates.
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  • Profile picture of the author Memex
    worked there for some time and not a lot of earnings
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  • Profile picture of the author monitorit
    Do you set up individual sites for your product reviews or do you review through articles and squidoo etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author faridaziz
    Hi,

    I'm not into Amazon actually, but reading this thread I was curious
    and login to my Amazon associate area.

    Surprise, surprise...

    I had 8 sales this week!

    The clicks came from some of my niche websites.

    As I'm running many niche websites with Amazon widgets
    on them, I think I will try to optimize them and write some reviews...

    Cheers,
    Farid
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  • Profile picture of the author stevecl
    I am currently using wordpress. My reviews are based around the conduit method.
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    • Profile picture of the author Success With Dany
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      Originally Posted by stevecl View Post

      I am currently using wordpress. My reviews are based around the conduit method.
      Conduit method?
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      • Profile picture of the author RealExpert
        Conduit method refers to Chris Rempel's product/idea. Essentially the idea is that you become a conduit for the "inevitable sale". To do that look for keywords that people use to buy a specific product and then build review type of site around that keyword.

        Originally Posted by Success With Dany View Post

        Conduit method?
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      • Profile picture of the author stevecl
        Originally Posted by Success With Dany View Post

        Conduit method?
        Basically i have set up a wordpress blog based around a particuar type of product. luckily there are 100s of different variations of this product. I write a review for each product as outlined in "the conduit method". Its more of an overview of the product rather than a review. Only takes about 5 minutes to write.
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    • Profile picture of the author Biggy Fat
      Originally Posted by stevecl View Post

      I am currently using wordpress. My reviews are based around the conduit method.
      I have the conduit method, actually. Gonna need to read over it again now haha.
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      • Profile picture of the author JasonC.biz
        Not to hijack the thread, but is the conduit method basically a scaled down version of IPK? It sounds like the basic idea is the same or very similar.

        Thanks,
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  • Profile picture of the author minitg
    Thanks all for the input on Amazon, it looks like that is an area of opportunity for me to grow my affiliate business. I have a few books on Amazon kindle and make a little bit from that too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrick Mader
    Till now i had no success with amazon...just cents...

    Pat
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  • Profile picture of the author reynoldscorb
    I promote a few products on Amazon, all of their prices are below $30. Obviously my commissions aren't very big, but the number of monthly sales I do makes up for it. The key with Amazon is quantity. You need a lot of traffic to make solid commissions in my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukinari84
    Originally Posted by waken View Post

    I really got to ask this...
    I recently promoting Amazon after seeing quite a number of success stories here...

    But, when I checked my account.. I was wondering do you guys really make money with Amazon?

    I mean, serious money as an affiliate?
    Is that possible?

    Hm... I think I would better stick with other networks.
    The share is way to small...


    Hell yea.

    Amazon is one of the easiest places to make money.

    Physical products already have a much higher conversion rate than digital products, and with places like Amazon and even ebay, there is a huge trust factor that further increases conversions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
    Originally Posted by JasonC.biz View Post

    Thanks Erica and Tim - that all makes sense and is in line with my thoughts.

    Jason
    Glad to help.


    Originally Posted by traceye View Post

    Thanks, I wasn't sure if I wanted to post it because I usually like to keep a low profile - but if it inspires anyone then it's all for the good.

    Besides I think Amazon products are WAY EASIER to make money from that info products or adsense (well in my experience anyway).
    I'm glad you did! I read through some of your blog and it was very helpful and inspirational. Now on to making my own Amazon affiliate dashboard look like that!

    Also wanted to throw out these tips:

    Tip #1

    I've seen some visits to my website where the search term was "product name price". I don't think I have a single post where I included the phrase "product name price". Instead I used a "check the price" button but I used an alt tag for the image that was "product name price button". When I look up the phrase, I can see the alt tag text is showing up in the description in Google when searchers use that term.

    I think this means I SHOULD include the phrase "such and such price" in my text but also that using the alt tag description I did for the price button is helping to get more traffic than I might have otherwise. I don't necessarily want to include the actual price in case things change but I could work that text in by doing something like "to check such and such price" go here....

    Just passing that along.

    Tip #2

    Also, I've been playing with some Google search queries to help find niches today. I know I can browse the bestsellers and sections on Amazon but I keep running into the same sorts of products - many of which are highly competitive and I wanted to dig down to find something more low comp.

    If you put the following into Google, you can browse through Amazon products in the $150 to $300 price range

    customer reviews -laptop -camera -dvd -tv -game -cook -vacuum site:amazon.com $150..300

    What this search does is show you amazon products where the mention of price is between $150-300 AND where the page does not include the words laptop, camera, dvd, tv, game, cook, or vacuum.

    I found a few new niches with decent search volume and low competition - products I'd never heard before but some had hundreds of reviews so they must be popular with some customer segment.

    You can modify that search by changing the price amounts or removing the elimination of any of those phrases (the -laptop, etc.) or by adding the elimination of other phrases.

    By using the term "customer reviews" in the search query, the results quickly show me the number of reviews each product has so I can get a better feel for popularity of the product.

    Something to play with anyway. It's not perfect and someone might have some other ideas for fine-tuning the search but if you're struggling to think of a product niche this can give you some great ideas. Get creative with it and see what you come up with.

    Erica
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    • Profile picture of the author Success With Dany
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      Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post

      Glad to help.




      I'm glad you did! I read through some of your blog and it was very helpful and inspirational. Now on to making my own Amazon affiliate dashboard look like that!

      Also wanted to throw out these tips:

      Tip #1

      I've seen some visits to my website where the search term was "product name price". I don't think I have a single post where I included the phrase "product name price". Instead I used a "check the price" button but I used an alt tag for the image that was "product name price button". When I look up the phrase, I can see the alt tag text is showing up in the description in Google when searchers use that term.

      I think this means I SHOULD include the phrase "such and such price" in my text but also that using the alt tag description I did for the price button is helping to get more traffic than I might have otherwise. I don't necessarily want to include the actual price in case things change but I could work that text in by doing something like "to check such and such price" go here....

      Just passing that along.

      Tip #2

      Also, I've been playing with some Google search queries to help find niches today. I know I can browse the bestsellers and sections on Amazon but I keep running into the same sorts of products - many of which are highly competitive and I wanted to dig down to find something more low comp.

      If you put the following into Google, you can browse through Amazon products in the $150 to $1000 price range

      customer reviews -laptop -camera -dvd -tv -game -cook -vacuum site:amazon.com $150..300

      What this search does is show you amazon products where the mention of price is between $150-300 AND where the page does not include the words laptop, camera, dvd, tv, game, cook, or vacuum.

      I found a few new niches with decent search volume and low competition - products I'd never heard before but some had hundreds of reviews so they must be popular with some customer segment.

      You can modify that search by changing the price amounts or removing the elimination of any of those phrases (the -laptop, etc.) or by adding the elimination of other phrases.

      By using the term "customer reviews" in the search query, the results quickly show me the number of reviews each product has so I can get a better feel for popularity of the product.

      Something to play with anyway. It's not perfect and someone might have some other ideas for fine-tuning the search but if you're struggling to think of a product niche this can give you some great ideas. Get creative with it and see what you come up with.

      Erica
      Tip 2 is absolutely incredible! Thanks! Where the heck did you learn that?
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      • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
        Originally Posted by Success With Dany View Post

        Tip 2 is absolutely incredible! Thanks! Where the heck did you learn that?
        From Google.

        It's the search query string that Google shows in the search bar after you use their Advanced Search options. Their advanced search features are useful for doing searches that focus only on a specific page or URL, specific phrases, and where you want to exclude other phrases.

        Once you know the search query terms you don't have to actually bring up their advanced search page - just type the terms into the search bar and you're on your way.
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  • Profile picture of the author theultimate1
    Erica, thanks for that amazing Tip #2.

    I did a quick search on big ticket items. Call me corny if you will, but I used the product price range of $1,000..30,000. And you know what happened? There were results but most products had 1 or 2 Customer Reviews. On Google's Page 1 of results, only one result showed 4 Customer Reviews.

    So, I added a twist and here's what I searched for:
    5..50 customer reviews -laptop -camera -dvd -tv -game -cook -vacuum site:amazon.com $1000..300000

    That shows me products with a higher number of Customer Reviews, ranging from 5 to 50. I don't remember what x..xx search on Google is called. Relative search, if I remember it right but I may be wrong. Whatever it's called, it's a great feature. Works well with Ezinearticles article views too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
      Originally Posted by theultimate1 View Post

      Erica, thanks for that amazing Tip #2.

      I did a quick search on big ticket items. Call me corny if you will, but I used the product price range of $1,000..30,000. And you know what happened? There were results but most products had 1 or 2 Customer Reviews. On Google's Page 1 of results, only one result showed 4 Customer Reviews.

      So, I added a twist and here's what I searched for:
      5..50 customer reviews -laptop -camera -dvd -tv -game -cook -vacuum site:amazon.com $1000..300000

      That shows me products with a higher number of Customer Reviews, ranging from 5 to 50. I don't remember what x..xx search on Google is called. Relative search, if I remember it right but I may be wrong. Whatever it's called, it's a great feature. Works well with Ezinearticles article views too.
      Thanks!! That's what I was trying to figure out how to do when I was playing around with the queries but with only one spot for a numeric range on Google's advance search screen I prioritized dollars over # of reviews. Never thought to add the second numerical range in the search string manually! (Slaps her forehead. Duh!)

      You find some really strange stuff at some of those higher dollar amounts. There was this diamond - something like $1-2mill. I added it to my Amazon wish-list and printed a pic for my husband. His eyes glazed over and he escaped to the driving range.
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    • Profile picture of the author JanisG
      Originally Posted by theultimate1 View Post

      Erica, thanks for that amazing Tip #2.

      I did a quick search on big ticket items. Call me corny if you will, but I used the product price range of $1,000..30,000. And you know what happened? There were results but most products had 1 or 2 Customer Reviews. On Google's Page 1 of results, only one result showed 4 Customer Reviews.

      So, I added a twist and here's what I searched for:
      5..50 customer reviews -laptop -camera -dvd -tv -game -cook -vacuum site:amazon.com $1000..300000

      That shows me products with a higher number of Customer Reviews, ranging from 5 to 50. I don't remember what x..xx search on Google is called. Relative search, if I remember it right but I may be wrong. Whatever it's called, it's a great feature. Works well with Ezinearticles article views too.
      Many thanks to Erica for this tip.
      I also played with customer review qty setting and came to similar conclusions.
      There is one thing to keep in mind.
      If you put '5..50 customer reviews', it works just fine.
      If you put bigger numbers, like '500..1000 customer reviews', you get some junk in SERPs as Google shows items with numbers from the range 500..1000 in product specs etc.

      Cheers!
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    • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
      Originally Posted by theultimate1 View Post

      So, I added a twist and here's what I searched for:
      5..50 customer reviews -laptop -camera -dvd -tv -game -cook -vacuum site:amazon.com $1000..300000
      How about one more twist

      LilBlackDress asked me a question about ideas of Amazon products she could add to her existing sites. I was about to go poking around in Amazon when I remembered this query could be further modified to do just that.

      Let's say you have a site about car accessories (pretty broad, but I needed an example) and you want products in a certain price range or with a certain number of reviews. Instead of removing words from the query with the minus sign, you can add words and get results that include only those words:
      5..50 customer reviews car accessories site:amazon.com $50..300
      This would show all the listings that included the words "car" and "accessories" (which you could change to "accessory", btw) and have reviews in the 5-50 range and where the mention of price falls between $50-300.

      But, you're tired of seeing all the ipod, mp3, gps stuff that comes up with a query like that because those can be pretty competitive. Then use the exclusion criteria to get rid of those, like this:
      5..50 customer reviews car accessories -gps -ipod -mp3 site:amazon.com $50..300
      Now you'll see listings for car accessories that are not gps, ipod, mp3 related but meet your other criteria.
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  • Profile picture of the author reynoldscorb
    I recently changed all of my Clickbank product links to Amazon products. While I'm not making as much money due to the low commission rate, I'm making up for with conversions.

    Let's be honest, Amazon is a reliable place to buy a product. If you're having trouble with other campaigns, consider adding Amazon into the equation. I only promote products with at least 25 five star ratings, which makes your conversion rates that much better.

    So if you're not making much money with Amazon, consider expanding your operation. I have about 10 sites up at the moment promoting Amazon and I'm doing quite well. With Amazon it comes down to traffic, because your conversions are going to be a lot better than if you were promoting a product from Clickbank in my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author con.mic
    I am pretty much a newbie, been reading this forum for a few months and I have been implementing what I have learned online.

    So far I have website which is making 2 dollars a day on average with Amazon. My reviews are all manually done and I add a text link before the review and just after the conclusion. I have written about 10 400 word reviews and I use a free word press blog theme. Reviews are annoying to write at first, but once you get the hang of it, it is a piece of cake.

    My website is in a pretty small niche and the most uniques i get from the search engine is 40 a day (from different keywords), however i nearly always make at least one conversion per day. the products that i am selling are cheap, around 10-20 dollars, but it still makes money.

    The thing i love about Amazon though is that sometimes people will go on spending sprees after clicking through your links, sometimes I find that people have bought a ton of unrelated products and I get a commission from each. I started out at 4% but i am already at 6.5%.

    I am scaling up my efforts now and building multiple amazon product review websites. If everything goes to plan I should be making a lot more within the next weeks and months when my new product websites start to see traffic.

    Although i haven't made real money with Amazon yet, I have proven to myself that Amazon works which has been important for my self-confidence in doing IM
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    • Originally Posted by con.mic View Post

      So far I have website which is making 2 dollars a day on average with Amazon.
      Congratulations!
      You say you are not really making any money yet, but $2 a day is better than 99.99% of all Amazon marketers.

      Considering you do not own your domain, and have only written 40 medium reviews, that is great.

      Buy a domain, get hosting, and ramp up your efforts, but great so far.
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  • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
    I tried it for a while. Actually selling stuff on Amazon turned out to be easier, and more profitable when it came to time being invested.
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  • Profile picture of the author SoEasyMoney
    Paula C-how do you drive traffic to your sites? article marketing, etc or organic traffic? Your post is very inspiring and has caused me to evaluate my current "ho hum" sites and ramp them up and squeeze some more juice out of them!

    Thanks to everyone for sharing
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    • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
      Originally Posted by SoEasyMoney View Post

      Paula C-how do you drive traffic to your sites? article marketing, etc or organic traffic? Your post is very inspiring and has caused me to evaluate my current "ho hum" sites and ramp them up and squeeze some more juice out of them!

      Thanks to everyone for sharing
      We get most of our traffic from search engines. We rank for a lot of keywords and the way we did that initially was to offer articles to other websites. So we didn't give them to article directories but just other websites and blogs.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ofthemix
        Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

        We get most of our traffic from search engines. We rank for a lot of keywords and the way we did that initially was to offer articles to other websites. So we didn't give them to article directories but just other websites and blogs.
        I started an article marketing campaign for my one review site that's starting to pick up and make a few sales. But, a post I read by Steven Wagenheim, who I greatly respect, bothers me. He was talking about how EZA submissions aren't as effective as they used to be. That coupled with me staring at my EZA stats for about 15 minutes made me wonder if I was wasting my time by doing an article marketing campaign. I was wondering if I'd be better off just writing highly keyword targeted articles for my own site and not submitting them to article directories at all to keep the content on my site 100% unique and geniune to my site. I also have another friend in IM who makes a full time living online that's completely against submitting to article directories. Maybe I'm just being lazy. I know my site could certainly use the backlinks. But I can't help but feel that I'd be able to add much more content to my own site if I wasn't busy submitting to EZA, waiting for the articles to be accepted, then building backlinks to rank them higher so I can get more clicks.

        What would you suggest, Paula?

        Might be a stupid question. Again, I think I'm just being lazy. It doesn't help that I'm overworked and haven't gotten much sleep.:p
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        • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
          Originally Posted by Ofthemix View Post

          I started an article marketing campaign for my one review site that's starting to pick up and make a few sales. But, a post I read by Steven Wagenheim, who I greatly respect, bothers me. He was talking about how EZA submissions aren't as effective as they used to be. That coupled with me staring at my EZA stats for about 15 minutes made me wonder if I was wasting my time by doing an article marketing campaign. I was wondering if I'd be better off just writing highly keyword targeted articles for my own site and not submitting them to article directories at all to keep the content on my site 100% unique and geniune to my site. I also have another friend in IM who makes a full time living online that's completely against submitting to article directories. Maybe I'm just being lazy. I know my site could certainly use the backlinks. But I can't help but feel that I'd be able to add much more content to my own site if I wasn't busy submitting to EZA, waiting for the articles to be accepted, then building backlinks to rank them higher so I can get more clicks.

          What would you suggest, Paula?

          Might be a stupid question. Again, I think I'm just being lazy. It doesn't help that I'm overworked and haven't gotten much sleep.:p
          Was that from the "Is EZA Dead?" (or something like that), thread?

          "I also have another friend in IM who makes a full time living online that's completely against submitting to article directories."

          Did he/she say why?
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          • Profile picture of the author Ofthemix
            Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

            Was that from the "Is EZA Dead?" (or something like that), thread?
            Yes, I believe that was the thread.


            Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

            "I also have another friend in IM who makes a full time living online that's completely against submitting to article directories."

            Did he/she say why?
            He says that he doesn't think people should be spending their time helping EZA build themselves up and making money off of other people's work.

            He says that a person's focus is better spent on adding valuable content to their own website.

            You may or may not know who I am talking about. He used to hang out here all of the time, but I don't see him around much anymore because he's busy with his business.
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        • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
          Originally Posted by Ofthemix View Post

          I started an article marketing campaign for my one review site that's starting to pick up and make a few sales. But, a post I read by Steven Wagenheim, who I greatly respect, bothers me. He was talking about how EZA submissions aren't as effective as they used to be. That coupled with me staring at my EZA stats for about 15 minutes made me wonder if I was wasting my time by doing an article marketing campaign. I was wondering if I'd be better off just writing highly keyword targeted articles for my own site and not submitting them to article directories at all to keep the content on my site 100% unique and geniune to my site. I also have another friend in IM who makes a full time living online that's completely against submitting to article directories. Maybe I'm just being lazy. I know my site could certainly use the backlinks. But I can't help but feel that I'd be able to add much more content to my own site if I wasn't busy submitting to EZA, waiting for the articles to be accepted, then building backlinks to rank them higher so I can get more clicks.

          What would you suggest, Paula?

          Might be a stupid question. Again, I think I'm just being lazy. It doesn't help that I'm overworked and haven't gotten much sleep.:p
          A lot of people have success with article marketing (using article directories) so I can't say it doesn't work. We've just never really gone this route for getting backlinks and traffic. As I said, we mostly submit articles to other website owners rather than article directories. You can pick the sites by checking their pagerank and if it is a blog check out the number of comments left to see if they get a lot of traffic and go with those types of sites.

          Send them an email and ask them if they would like a free article in exchange for a couple of links in the article back to your site.

          We always give them unique articles.

          This takes time but what you get are good solid backlinks which will help to build up your ranking in Google.
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          • Profile picture of the author jake411
            Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

            A lot of people have success with article marketing (using article directories) so I can't say it doesn't work. We've just never really gone this route for getting backlinks and traffic. As I said, we mostly submit articles to other website owners rather than article directories. You can pick the sites by checking their pagerank and if it is a blog check out the number of comments left to see if they get a lot of traffic and go with those types of sites.

            Send them an email and ask them if they would like a free article in exchange for a couple of links in the article back to your site.

            We always give them unique articles.

            This takes time but what you get are good solid backlinks which will help to build up your ranking in Google.
            Hey PaulaC

            You piqued my curiosity when you mentioned your professional article
            distribution efforts....

            Do you use a service or do you contact each webmaster, ezine, or
            newsletter personally and manually?

            If you use a service, would you care to mention who??

            How do you zero in on what sites, ezines, or nl's to target?

            Thanks
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          • Profile picture of the author Joe2
            Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

            A lot of people have success with article marketing (using article directories) so I can't say it doesn't work. We've just never really gone this route for getting backlinks and traffic. As I said, we mostly submit articles to other website owners rather than article directories. You can pick the sites by checking their pagerank and if it is a blog check out the number of comments left to see if they get a lot of traffic and go with those types of sites.

            Send them an email and ask them if they would like a free article in exchange for a couple of links in the article back to your site.

            We always give them unique articles.

            This takes time but what you get are good solid backlinks which will help to build up your ranking in Google.
            PaulaC

            Do you still give your unique articles to other websites and blogs or do you now rely solely on organic free traffic from search engines? Do you use any PPC?

            After all your experience and then writing Amazonian Profit Plan has your approach changed in any way? What is your advice for traffic generation.
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            • Profile picture of the author Ellen C Braun
              Originally Posted by Joe2 View Post

              PaulaC

              Do you still give your unique articles to other websites and blogs or do you now rely solely on organic free traffic from search engines? Do you use any PPC?

              After all your experience and then writing Amazonian Profit Plan has your approach changed in any way? What is your advice for traffic generation.
              Joe, you'll probably have better luck reaching Paula by commenting on her blog affiliateblogonline.com.

              By the way, I'm still researching whether the preview box creates a cookie or not...
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        • Profile picture of the author TimG
          Originally Posted by Ofthemix View Post

          I started an article marketing campaign for my one review site that's starting to pick up and make a few sales. But, a post I read by Steven Wagenheim, who I greatly respect, bothers me. He was talking about how EZA submissions aren't as effective as they used to be.
          Success rates with EZA also depend on the niche you are involved with. Steven submits lots of articles in categories such as home based business, Internet marketing, article marketing, list building..etc.

          Over the last 5 years I've personally never had a real high page view rate for niches like that but have crushed it in other niches such as pest control, health related niches and other outside of IM niche topics.

          I only bring that up because every niche is different and some will do better then others and some niches are seasonal also.

          Whether or not you run an article marketing campaign for your site depends on what you hope to gain from it.

          I posted this in another thread but I'll go ahead and post it here also:

          The fact is articles are very versatile and you can readily use them to promote a variety of different things; here are just a few of the many benefits and reasons as to why you should include article marketing as part of your primary traffic generating strategies.

          1 - The ability to drive targeted traffic and pre-sold traffic to your website.

          2 – The ability to brand yourself on the Internet, which can be used for both online and profiting purposes.

          3 – Anchor text manipulation so you can tell the search engines what a specific page on your website is about.

          4 – The viral effect created by your articles should they become extremely popular and syndicated all over the Internet.

          5 – The cost benefit associated with an article once it has been created and published decrease on a daily basis as it continues to drive traffic to your site day in and day out.

          6 – Infinite site exposure for your website as your articles stay online indefinitely sending traffic for years to come.

          7 – Increased site value for your website based on the amount of articles you have leading back to it should you decide to sell your website.

          8 – The ability to create backlinks to your website.

          The only way to make sure article marketing continues to stay successful for us is to understand/recognize the evolution of article marketing and then harness the power of the synergy created by that evolution.

          Respectfully,
          Tim
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          • Profile picture of the author Ofthemix
            Originally Posted by TimG View Post

            Success rates with EZA also depend on the niche you are involved with. Steven submits lots of articles in categories such as home based business, Internet marketing, article marketing, list building..etc.

            Over the last 5 years I've personally never had a real high page view rate for niches like that but have crushed it in other niches such as pest control, health related niches and other outside of IM niche topics.

            I only bring that up because every niche is different and some will do better then others and some niches are seasonal also.

            Whether or not you run an article marketing campaign for your site depends on what you hope to gain from it.

            I posted this in another thread but I'll go ahead and post it here also:

            The fact is articles are very versatile and you can readily use them to promote a variety of different things; here are just a few of the many benefits and reasons as to why you should include article marketing as part of your primary traffic generating strategies.

            1 - The ability to drive targeted traffic and pre-sold traffic to your website.

            2 – The ability to brand yourself on the Internet, which can be used for both online and profiting purposes.

            3 – Anchor text manipulation so you can tell the search engines what a specific page on your website is about.

            4 – The viral effect created by your articles should they become extremely popular and syndicated all over the Internet.

            5 – The cost benefit associated with an article once it has been created and published decrease on a daily basis as it continues to drive traffic to your site day in and day out.

            6 – Infinite site exposure for your website as your articles stay online indefinitely sending traffic for years to come.

            7 – Increased site value for your website based on the amount of articles you have leading back to it should you decide to sell your website.

            8 – The ability to create backlinks to your website.

            The only way to make sure article marketing continues to stay successful for us is to understand/recognize the evolution of article marketing and then harness the power of the synergy created by that evolution.

            Respectfully,
            Tim
            Yeah, after I got out of the shower I realized I was just trying to be lazy. I know all of benefits but it's great to be reminded of them . . . especially when I start looking for the proverbial "Easy Button". I think I'm just burnt out on life right now so I'm looking for a way out of doing extra work.

            That's a great post and I'm sure it's helped many Warriors stay on track or get back on track.
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            • Profile picture of the author TimG
              Originally Posted by Ofthemix View Post

              Yeah, after I got out of the shower I realized I was just trying to be lazy. I know all of benefits but it's great to be reminded of them . . . especially when I start looking for the proverbial "Easy Button". I think I'm just burnt out on life right now so I'm looking for a way out of doing extra work.

              That's a great post and I'm sure it's helped many Warriors stay on track or get back on track.
              No problem...we've all been burnt out at some point in time. I've taken months off without submitting a single article and fortunately all previous article submissions continued to send traffic and generate sales.

              That's one of the things I love about article marketing...it allows you the opportunity to take time off. That's hard to do with PPC because if you stop your campaigns they don't drive traffic.

              Regarding what your friend said.....he has a point. you should not be spending your time building up EZAs content while neglecting your own.

              You should be building up your content first and then submitting content to EZA (and other places) in order to promote your previously built content

              Respectfully,
              Tim
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  • Profile picture of the author MassiveMarketer
    It is possible. Just start with choosing items that has a high price for you to get higher commission as well. And yeah, volume is important too.
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  • Profile picture of the author blogginvixen
    If you're confused about where to begin when making money with Amazon, as well as how to structure your website, by far the most comprehensive guide I've read is by Dave, from Making Money on the Internet Free: How To Make Money With Amazon: An Affiliate Marketing Guide | Making Money On The Internet

    ...be prepared to pull up a chair, a notepad and cup of coffee because it's a 13,000 words and worth the hour it took to devour everything!
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  • Profile picture of the author michaelmac
    Hi,

    I'm averaging $250-$300 per month with adsense after 5 months having their links on my autoblogs. My primary earnings from these blogs comes from Adsense but this little bit from Amazon, which is increasing on a monthly basis, makes a welcome difference to my bottom line.

    I make this Amazon money with no effort on my part so it is classic hands-free income...cool! Furthermore, they pay accurately and on time.

    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author Edge88
    I've sent about 50 highly targeted clicks to them and none of them converted apparently. by highly targeted I mean, people were looking to buy that specific product. they were buy keywords, and nothing.... I expected a much better conversion rate given people were looking for "where to buy x" when they got to my affiliate link.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanlucht
    I'm brand new to affiliate marketing with Amazon, and although I haven't made much (anything) yet, I have some thoughts.

    Sure, the commission is crappy, but I think the conversions are much higher because you're sending people to one of the most trusted brand names out there, Amazon. There's no doubts or qualms in a potential customer's mind about buying from amazon.

    I'm trying it out with Squidoo, via Tiffany Dow's 52 Week Squidoo Challenge. I haven't seen her in this thread so I'll speak for her a bit and say that yes, she makes money with Amazon Associates.

    (p.s- if you're interested, in my internet marketing video journal i'm covering all my work with amazon/squidoo. it's at youtube.com/IMMoneyVideos )
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy1750
    Hey,

    I have quite a few Amazon sites and most of them make good sales. In contrast to what's been stated above I tend to target much cheaper products as they are a much easier to convert - much smaller commissions but many more sales. If you target the right niches, even if people don't buy what you are promoting they quite often buy something else while they are there. Best way to achieve this is to target niches that people are passionate about. If you're promoting a DVD player, a camera, a television or a coffee machine then chances are if people decide not to buy then they will disappear into oblivion. However, if you're promoting a product that falls within a broader interest (hobbies, babies, fashion, pets etc. etc.) then they're more likely to buy something else even if they decide not to buy the product that you are promoting. Amazon is a master at converting these types of consumers as they throw loads of other products that may be of interest right in front of the eyes of these visitors. They're like flies heading towards a UV light unable to resist. Some of my sights convert at 20% once I get the click through to Amazon.

    Don't do much Amazon work anymore - too much hard work (backlinking, backlinking and more backlinking) for small commissions. Paid traffic is the way to make a small fortune. However, if you're starting out and use your brain it's fail safe way of generating affiliate income.

    Cheers,

    Andy
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    • Profile picture of the author Success With Dany
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      Originally Posted by Andy1750 View Post

      Hey,

      I have quite a few Amazon sites and most of them make good sales. In contrast to what's been stated above I tend to target much cheaper products as they are a much easier to convert - much smaller commissions but many more sales. If you target the right niches, even if people don't buy what you are promoting they quite often buy something else while they are there. Best way to achieve this is to target niches that people are passionate about. If you're promoting a DVD player, a camera, a television or a coffee machine then chances are if people decide not to buy then they will disappear into oblivion. However, if you're promoting a product that falls within a broader interest (hobbies, babies, fashion, pets etc. etc.) then they're more likely to buy something else even if they decide not to buy the product that you are promoting. Amazon is a master at converting these types of consumers as they throw loads of other products that may be of interest right in front of the eyes of these visitors. They're like flies heading towards a UV light unable to resist. Some of my sights convert at 20% once I get the click through to Amazon.

      Don't do much Amazon work anymore - too much hard work (backlinking, backlinking and more backlinking) for small commissions. Paid traffic is the way to make a small fortune. However, if you're starting out and use your brain it's fail safe way of generating affiliate income.

      Cheers,

      Andy
      How many Amazon sites do you have total and how many are duds/successes?
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      • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
        Just a comment here.

        I have seen many of Paula's websites and all of Sojurn's sites (please do not pm me for the links) and they are outstanding, quality sites.

        These are not toss up a site and make some money websites. These are not put on a Review Plug in and the sales will take care of themselves.

        These are carefully planned sites with hours of time and thought in them. The reviews are outstanding, well crafted, and give the potential buyer plenty of information. These reviews include specs, recommendations, lots of loving detail. Much time and effort was spent crafting these reviews.

        The Takeaway - These sites offer GENUINE VALUE to the customers. The potential buyer feels the value and appreciates it. It helps them make an informed decision. This is why these Amazon affiliates are very successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy1750
    Hey,

    Have 13 sites which I do absolutely nothing with anymore. Got the paid traffic bug now!

    Duds/successes? They all bring in sales but it depends on how you define a success I suppose. Three bring in over $100 a month consistently with no work whatsoever.

    If you're interested here's one of my less successful ones - gave up on this ages ago but it still brings in $20 a month:

    Gadgets4Pets - Funniest Pet Gadgets Reviewed

    The better sites have all focused on a single product with a custom lander that I did in Dreamweaver. Just attach a blog for SEO. Much easier to improve CTR if you have more control over the layout and appearance of the page. In my experience this makes a BIG BIG difference.

    Cheers,

    Andy
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    • Profile picture of the author sickbaomei
      Hi Andy,
      What kinda paid traffic do you recommend ? Do you go the usual PPC route like adwords..etc ?
      I was once burnt in PPC following a adwords guru "personal coach" wso here and lost big time that I don't dare touch it again..

      Cheers
      Chris

      Originally Posted by Andy1750 View Post

      Hey,

      Have 13 sites which I do absolutely nothing with anymore. Got the paid traffic bug now!

      Duds/successes? They all bring in sales but it depends on how you define a success I suppose. Three bring in over $100 a month consistently with no work whatsoever.

      If you're interested here's one of my less successful ones - gave up on this ages ago but it still brings in $20 a month:

      Gadgets4Pets - Funniest Pet Gadgets Reviewed

      The better sites have all focused on a single product with a custom lander that I did in Dreamweaver. Just attach a blog for SEO. Much easier to improve CTR if you have more control over the layout and appearance of the page. In my experience this makes a BIG BIG difference.

      Cheers,

      Andy
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      • Profile picture of the author Andy1750
        Originally Posted by sickbaomei View Post

        Hi Andy,
        What kinda paid traffic do you recommend ? Do you go the usual PPC route like adwords..etc ?
        I was once burnt in PPC following a adwords guru "personal coach" wso here and lost big time that I don't dare touch it again..

        Cheers
        Chris
        Hi Chris,

        Know of people that made money that via Adwords when it was possible to direct link but Amazon no longer allow this. Am sure that there will be some people that make money with paid traffic sources and Amazon but they will be a tiny minority. Only way to succeed IMO is free traffic.

        Cheers,

        Andy
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        • Profile picture of the author sickbaomei
          Thanx Andy .. but I still dun understand as your post #94 mentioned that paid traffic is the way to go.

          Originally Posted by Andy1750 View Post

          Hi Chris,

          Know of people that made money that via Adwords when it was possible to direct link but Amazon no longer allow this. Am sure that there will be some people that make money with paid traffic sources and Amazon but they will be a tiny minority. Only way to succeed IMO is free traffic.


          Cheers,

          Andy
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      • Profile picture of the author goosexxx
        I just started using Amazon affiliate program today. Autoposter is awesome but really have to watch what it's trying to post so I send it to draft mode that way I can review and schedule posts for the next couple weeks. I like to set and forget with my blog, that way it's automated to some extent although I try to generate all my own text. Will be interesting to see how it works for me. Getting some clicks from text links to a product I have on Amazon and trying to cross promote something that I think the visitors to my site might be interested in.
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    • Profile picture of the author Winlin
      Originally Posted by Andy1750 View Post

      Hey,

      Have 13 sites which I do absolutely nothing with anymore. Got the paid traffic bug now!

      Duds/successes? They all bring in sales but it depends on how you define a success I suppose. Three bring in over $100 a month consistently with no work whatsoever.

      If you're interested here's one of my less successful ones - gave up on this ages ago but it still brings in $20 a month:

      Gadgets4Pets - Funniest Pet Gadgets Reviewed

      The better sites have all focused on a single product with a custom lander that I did in Dreamweaver. Just attach a blog for SEO. Much easier to improve CTR if you have more control over the layout and appearance of the page. In my experience this makes a BIG BIG difference.

      Cheers,

      Andy

      Still... it's a good looking blog site... If you don't mind sharing... do you set up all of your sites to follow this template?
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      • Profile picture of the author Ofthemix
        Ah the Flexibility theme. I just started using it too. Made my money site look super gorgeous. You can do tons of things with it, make super professional looking sites. And the best part is that it's free.
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  • Profile picture of the author Biggy Fat
    I'd love to see an eBook on the subject, Paula. I'd be the first to buy.
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    • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
      Originally Posted by Biggy Fat View Post

      I'd love to see an eBook on the subject, Paula. I'd be the first to buy.
      Yes, one is in the works. It took us a while to finally get around to writing one but we have had such a huge number of people wanting us to tell them how we do it that we knew it was time.
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  • Profile picture of the author RGallowitz
    I make a very good amount of money from Amazon, but my approach is completely different to 99% of people on this thread.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by RGallowitz View Post

      I make a very good amount of money from Amazon, but my approach is completely different to 99% of people on this thread.
      Very interesting...

      You don't have a WSO about it running do you? (Seriously...I'd like to know, but, of course, if you had a method that rare and precious, I'd guard it like a charm)

      ....I've found Amazon to be pretty difficult to earn from....but, a semi-decent complement to Adsense, and a few other channels....definitely not my primary earner though
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    • Profile picture of the author ebizman87
      This thread has turned out to be one of the most inspiring and useful posts that I've seen lately in this forum...Thanks to all the contributors
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      • Profile picture of the author TimG
        Originally Posted by ebizman87 View Post

        This thread has turned out to be one of the most inspiring and useful posts that I've seen lately in this forum...Thanks to all the contributors
        That's saying a mouthful - I take a few days off from visiting this particular thread only to come back and find Sojourn and Ofthemix supplying so much hard hitting information that it's literally mind boggling -

        If anyone didn't know how to make money with Amazon they definately should by now just from the info contained in this thread.

        Respectfully,
        Tim
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        • Profile picture of the author webkc
          I think this thread went a little off topic - the first question was if it was possible to earn serious money with Amazon

          Even though I have never made more than $300 per month from Amazon, in my experience, the only way to earn some big money with amazon in the future is to build big authority sites.

          If we just look around, its very easy to see how many people are getting into this IM industry- so the competition is only going to become bigger and bigger over time.

          By creating authoritative sites in your chosen niche, you completely make your self stand out in search engine rankings. I predict that not too long from know Google might decide to weep out all the thin-made-for-affiliates sites, which don;t add that much value fron user point of view. I mean - what kind of good value do you truly provide when you for example, justing taking out amazon user reviews and rewrite them? (Perhaps there is a little value here of summarizing things so its easier to read for buyers) - but hey, these kind of mini sites only serve to dilute Google search engine results.

          Degrading search engine results quality is obviously a very bad thing for Google, and soon or later it will have to change its algo to protect its dominence in the search market.
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          • Profile picture of the author Ofthemix
            Originally Posted by webkc View Post

            I think this thread went a little off topic - the first question was if it was possible to earn serious money with Amazon

            Even though I have never made more than $300 per month from Amazon, in my experience, the only way to earn some big money with amazon in the future is to build big authority sites.

            If we just look around, its very easy to see how many people are getting into this IM industry- so the competition is only going to become bigger and bigger over time.

            By creating authoritative sites in your chosen niche, you completely make your self stand out in search engine rankings. I predict that not too long from know Google might decide to weep out all the thin-made-for-affiliates sites, which don;t add that much value fron user point of view. I mean - what kind of good value do you truly provide when you for example, justing taking out amazon user reviews and rewrite them? (Perhaps there is a little value here of summarizing things so its easier to read for buyers) - but hey, these kind of mini sites only serve to dilute Google search engine results.

            Degrading search engine results quality is obviously a very bad thing for Google, and soon or later it will have to change its algo to protect its dominence in the search market.
            Google already weeds out the bad sites by putting them at the bottom of seach results. Trust me, your site doesn't make it to the top of Google unless Google decides it deserves to be there. I don't think you give the Google algo enough credit.
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    • Originally Posted by RGallowitz View Post

      I make a very good amount of money from Amazon, but my approach is completely different to 99% of people on this thread.

      What is your approach?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Jordan
    Just started doing it last month and had written 4 product reviews which had 2 clicks so far. I'm doing what PaulaC said:
    1. Choose products over $150 and those getting good reviews.
    2. Write exceptionally good product reviews.
    3. Use text links not widgets when referring readers to Amazon.

    Hope it will work for me too.
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      Originally Posted by JsamsonNJ View Post

      Interesting Paula finds much success based on the post quoted below usig "Text Links" and in Chris Guthries thread where he made 60K for the year he was telling that the "image" is what was best for his conversions.

      Obviously put both methods on your review
      You definitely have to use images. What I mean is don't use those Amazon widgets. Just place an image at the top of the post but use text links throughout the review. Avoid the widgets and banner ads.
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      • Profile picture of the author vivax
        I was trying to make money online for almost two years selling clickbank products. In two years my earnings were 600$.
        A few months ago I turned to Amazon, got me a really great plugin that builds me automated amazon sites in one afternoon and already made 80$ in commissions without any work of promotion for these sites. They go straight to Google no1 page and from 10-15 uniques a day conversions are pretty OK.
        it is much easier to make money from amazon then from clickbank with less work
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      • Profile picture of the author LisaJordan
        Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

        You definitely have to use images. What I mean is don't use those Amazon widgets. Just place an image at the top of the post but use text links throughout the review. Avoid the widgets and banner ads.
        Paula, just want to understand, why should you avoid the widgets? I have a couple, I'll take them off, but want to know your view on this. Thanks much!
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by LisaJordan View Post

          Paula, just want to understand, why should you avoid the widgets? I have a couple, I'll take them off, but want to know your view on this. Thanks much!
          I can't speak for Paula, but for me the biggest reason is that they simply don't convert. Even the contextual Omikase widget was a dismal failure.

          If I use the widgets at all, it's much like I'd use clip art - something to visually steer people to the 'real' links I want them to see.

          The best-performing links over time for me have been inline text links (as part of the actual content) and product picture links. Trying to calculate a percentage difference gave me a number just too silly to post...
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  • Hi,

    I had to personally answer this one and deposit my 2 cents in the money pot .. figuratively speaking, because from the perspective of an ex-amazon niche blogger i know where you are coming from.

    There IS money to be made via the Amazon affiliate program but at a 15% cut at best, you need to ask yourself if the return on investment is really worth it ... not to forget the amount amazon deduct when sending you the check abroad. Kinda sucks.

    I personally learnt this lesson, the hard way when i made amazon and co $900 last year to only have pocketed a small amount. The site was on a small niche so the conversion rates weren't super hot but i managed to get a couple of opt ins on the backend ;-)

    My tip:
    Change the way you monetize the traffic either by CPA offers, Paypal commissions (assuming you trust the business partner) or my favourite clickbank :-).

    You can look for affiliate programs in google: KEYWORD + affiliates

    I actually created a video on youtube a couple of days back called "make clickbank sales" (witout the quotes) to help my readers.

    Some "out of the box" methods for your next .com which you might find useful there.

    Good luck and hope i pointed you in the right direction.

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author Soflyy
      Get search engine traffic for visitors in buy mode (search terms like "buy <product>", "lowest price <product>", etc.), avoid the electronics niche (I'm sure there are people making money promoting electronics on Amazon. But I'm not one of them.), and promote expensive products.

      Also, one thing that can work great is telling people what to buy to achieve a certain result. A perfect example of this are the common weight loss landing pages that say "First buy **** whatever, then buy colon cleanse whatever". All the same rules for flogs can be applied to promoting Amazon products.
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      • Profile picture of the author reapr
        Originally Posted by HBZSoftware View Post

        Get search engine traffic for visitors in buy mode (search terms like "buy <product>", "lowest price <product>", etc.), avoid the electronics niche (I'm sure there are people making money promoting electronics on Amazon. But I'm not one of them.), and promote expensive products.

        Also, one thing that can work great is telling people what to buy to achieve a certain result. A perfect example of this are the common weight loss landing pages that say "First buy **** whatever, then buy colon cleanse whatever". All the same rules for flogs can be applied to promoting Amazon products.
        There are a few other things that can help with sales. Larger graphics where possible and clickable. Orange buy buttons there are a few studies out there that indicate orange is a buying color. Placing images and buy bottons above the fold with good descriptions. Product numbers or IDs in title tag, header and description. You mentioned promote expensive products and I also suggest promoting products you can not find at your local mall/store and if you can promote related or various colors or variations of the products.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
    Being a numbers geek, I probably have more spreadsheets about my sites than I have actual pages ON my sites. Tracking data is the only way I'm able to keep myself focused on what is working.

    Following are some stats about my Amazon activity from March through June 14th. I'm sharing partly because it's no fun doing a little happy dance by yourself in front of the laptop but also because this data highlights a few important points discussed in this thread.



    This is all data from the Amazon Earnings report and the Daily Trends report combined into one graph.

    • Dark blue line = unique visitors to Amazon for each day
    • Green line = number of products those unique visitors clicked on while on Amazon
    • Light blue line = number of sales for the day
    • Red line = the dollar amount of commissions earned from products that shipped that day
    The difference between the dark blue line and the green line demonstrates how often visitors who went in looking at one product ended up clicking on other products, too.

    April is when I started the review site. Until then, Amazon sales came in from other sites focused on how-to type information and promoting CB products. Any Amazon products in those sites are well under $30.

    May is when the review site started to see sales and the average sale amount from those products is around $140. This is what has had the most impact on driving up commissions.

    Before May, I'd never had a $20 day on Amazon. In June alone I've had a $40+ day and yesterday was just over $60.

    The number of unique visitors has gone from about 40/day in April to 60/day in June. That's really not a lot of visitors. It's very targeted traffic, but not impossible for just about anyone to reach with a little research and effort.

    Here are some other thoughts that have come to mind the past couple of days:
    • Those long, lengthy reviews I've been writing slice up nicely into smaller reviews for article directories. I've turned each review into an article for EZA (taking no more than 5-10 minutes to chop up the existing review and reword a few things) and submitted them all. I included links only in the bio: one to the inner page for that product and one to the home page.
    • Once the EZA article was indexed, I submitted the exact same article to a number of other article directories including goarticles, articlesbase, and articledashboard. In some cases, if you Google "product name review" for some of the products on my site, I have 3 listings on the 1st page - my inner page, my EZA article, and a goarticle or the articlesbase article. Same bio links.
    • I use a Statpress WP plug-in to give me real-time visitor information. Then I can see exactly what search phrases and search engine brought someone to my site. Often, I'm surprised that someone came by entering something like "product name - specific accessory". I know that I didn't really refer to that particular accessory in my review but if I'm getting traffic for it, there must not be a lot of competition so I'll run back to that post and update it with a link to that accessory.
    • In some cases, I've found the product I want to include on the site has a better price on Walmart. Linkshare has a Walmart affiliate program. When that is the case, I include a link to both so that the visitor can compare prices. (This was a direct result of something PaulaC wrote in her blog that things really took off when they started thinking about the customer first and the money second. So I lose a few points in commission. I'd rather the customer feel good about their purchase.)
    • I haven't used them on this site, but Shareasale is one of my other favorite affiliate programs for products - especially for products you can't get on Amazon. Some of those programs increase your commission rate permanently after you reach a certain amount of sales. I promote one such program where the commission rate jumped from 10% to 30% after I had only a few hundred dollars in sales. Those of you who can't use Amazon because of state laws or country issues but want to try your hand at selling physical products might want to hunt down those programs and niches.
    I also follow the same routine each time I set up a WP site and I have a specific set of SEO steps I follow, backlinking strategy, etc, but way too detailed for this already lengthy post. Most of that strategy and information came from other WF threads anyway so the information is out there.

    This was really just me procrastinating for the day. Time to get my butt in gear. I need coffee and I have some work to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author waken
      Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post

      Being a numbers geek, I probably have more spreadsheets about my sites than I have actual pages ON my sites. Tracking data is the only way I'm able to keep myself focused on what is working.

      Following are some stats about my Amazon activity from March through June 14th. I'm sharing partly because it's no fun doing a little happy dance by yourself in front of the laptop but also because this data highlights a few important points discussed in this thread.



      This is all data from the Amazon Earnings report and the Daily Trends report combined into one graph.

      • Dark blue line = unique visitors to Amazon for each day
      • Green line = number of products those unique visitors clicked on while on Amazon
      • Light blue line = number of sales for the day
      • Red line = the dollar amount of commissions earned from products that shipped that day
      The difference between the dark blue line and the green line demonstrates how often visitors who went in looking at one product ended up clicking on other products, too.

      April is when I started the review site. Until then, Amazon sales came in from other sites focused on how-to type information and promoting CB products. Any Amazon products in those sites are well under $30.

      May is when the review site started to see sales and the average sale amount from those products is around $140. This is what has had the most impact on driving up commissions.

      Before May, I'd never had a $20 day on Amazon. In June alone I've had a $40+ day and yesterday was just over $60.

      The number of unique visitors has gone from about 40/day in April to 60/day in June. That's really not a lot of visitors. It's very targeted traffic, but not impossible for just about anyone to reach with a little research and effort.

      Here are some other thoughts that have come to mind the past couple of days:
      • Those long, lengthy reviews I've been writing slice up nicely into smaller reviews for article directories. I've turned each review into an article for EZA (taking no more than 5-10 minutes to chop up the existing review and reword a few things) and submitted them all. I included links only in the bio: one to the inner page for that product and one to the home page.
      • Once the EZA article was indexed, I submitted the exact same article to a number of other article directories including goarticles, articlesbase, and articledashboard. In some cases, if you Google "product name review" for some of the products on my site, I have 3 listings on the 1st page - my inner page, my EZA article, and a goarticle or the articlesbase article. Same bio links.
      • I use a Statpress WP plug-in to give me real-time visitor information. Then I can see exactly what search phrases and search engine brought someone to my site. Often, I'm surprised that someone came by entering something like "product name - specific accessory". I know that I didn't really refer to that particular accessory in my review but if I'm getting traffic for it, there must not be a lot of competition so I'll run back to that post and update it with a link to that accessory.
      • In some cases, I've found the product I want to include on the site has a better price on Walmart. Linkshare has a Walmart affiliate program. When that is the case, I include a link to both so that the visitor can compare prices. (This was a direct result of something PaulaC wrote in her blog that things really took off when they started thinking about the customer first and the money second. So I lose a few points in commission. I'd rather the customer feel good about their purchase.)
      • I haven't used them on this site, but Shareasale is one of my other favorite affiliate programs for products - especially for products you can't get on Amazon. Some of those programs increase your commission rate permanently after you reach a certain amount of sales. I promote one such program where the commission rate jumped from 10% to 30% after I had only a few hundred dollars in sales. Those of you who can't use Amazon because of state laws or country issues but want to try your hand at selling physical products might want to hunt down those programs and niches.
      I also follow the same routine each time I set up a WP site and I have a specific set of SEO steps I follow, backlinking strategy, etc, but way too detailed for this already lengthy post. Most of that strategy and information came from other WF threads anyway so the information is out there.

      This was really just me procrastinating for the day. Time to get my butt in gear. I need coffee and I have some work to do.
      Thanks a lot!!

      Originally Posted by Ofthemix View Post

      The site in question that made the 3 sales is on a brand new domain. I actually just purchased 11 new domain names to play around with for Amazon. So, there was no existing traffic when I purchased them.

      Here are the steps I've taken to work with this particular domain/niche.

      1.) Install Wordpress (obviously)
      2.) Upload the Clean Copy theme. <--I'm currently testing out different themes to see what converts better. Actually, I'm going to be doing a ton of testing on these 11 domain names, including themes, plugins, review techniques, using video, articles, and what not. I know that's a lot to take in so I'm just going to tell you what's working with this one domain. I'll probably come back later and post what has worked the best when I'm done with everything.
      3.) Create a custom header with XHeader and upload it.
      4.) Do some modifying to the Theme so that everything looks right, and take out post dates. <---A lot of people leave them in, I don't think it really matters. I just like to take them out.
      5.) Set up my permalinks to /%postname%/, populate my pinglist, Install and configure the following WordPress Plugins:
      Akismet
      Google Analytics for WordPress (add site to Google Analytics at the same time)
      Google XML Sitemaps
      Max Banner Ads
      MaxBlogPress Ping Optimizer
      Platinum SEO Pack
      Recent Commenters Widget
      ReviewAzon <---This plugin you have to pay for. Currently I'm only using the Similar Products widget part of it.
      Subscribe Me
      Tell-A-Friend Widget Plugin
      Threewl-php-plugin <---I am doing 3 way link building
      Wp Robot 3 <---Another paid plugin. I use this one for posting.
      YD Recent Posts
      Yet Another Related Posts Plugin
      6.) Create content <--- I pull a product from Amazon using Wp Robot 3 and I save it to draft. Then I cut and paste Amazon's decscription into a Word document, then go on Amazon and see what other details I can find out about the product as well as reading all of the customer reviews. I create my reviews based on that information. My reviews are typically between 250 - 500 words long. If you've read all of the other posts in this thread you'll see that most people recommend writing longer reviews. I'll try that on a different domain. For the 1st 10 posts, I schedule them a day apart. After that, I schedule my posts one per week.
      7.) Do automatic search engine submissions.
      8.) Go back and do manual search engine submissions. Most people advise against this but I've never seen it hurt anything. I just do it because I don't fully trust the free submission tool I use. I only manually submit to Google and Bing.
      9.) Create a page for my blog on Aboutus.org
      10.) Ping my sitemap at Google Blog Search Ping Service
      11.) Add my site to Google Webmaster Tools.
      12.) Wait until the site gets indexed. It's rare that my sites don't get indexed within 24 hours.
      13.) Ping and Social Bookmark my posts. I ping with Pingoat or Pingomatic. I social bookmark with Onlywire. I do this as the posts/review are posted on a daily basis.
      14.) Add Adsense above the fold. I also usually include a text line under the main menu line.
      15.) For this particular niche I was also able to add a Clickbank product in the sidebar which has, to my surprise, gotten a few clicks already.

      The next few steps I do one a day as my blog starts populating posts.
      Day 1 was spent doing everything above.
      Day 2 Submit RSS feed with RSS Bot and then manually submit my RSS feed to a list of other RSS aggregators that aren't included on RSSBot
      Day 3 Submit my homepage with SocialBot. I only use about 25 of the social bookmarking sites on the program.
      Day 4 Submit my site with DirectoryBot.
      Day 5 Manually submit my homepage to some scuttle social bookmarking sites for extra backlinks.
      Day 6 Manually submit my site to high PR directories (PR6 and PR5) for more backlinks. These will build over time depending on how long it takes the directories to approve your site.
      Day 7 Write an article for Free Traffic Systems at freetrafficsystems.com
      Day 8 Create an open link wheel with about 8 different Web 2.0 sites.
      Day 9 Write an article for EzineArticles.
      Day 10 Use Angela Edwards backlink packet and do some backlinking.
      Day 11 Post to free classified ads sites. I write my ads as if I'm actually selling the product, then link back to my website. Right now I'm playing with the button images of my sites, testing what works better "Order Now" or "More Information".
      Usually on Day 11 I'm also set up 3waylinks <---something else you have to pay for. I pretty much just use it so I can move on to building my next site and not have to worry about link building for a little while aside from pinging and social bookmarking. I've only been using 3waylinks for about a month, but so far so good.

      Now I just wait and watch while my site does the Google dance and hope it will eventually land somewhere favorable. The first site I built for Amazon is starting to climb in ranks, so that's a good sign.

      I know I skipped the keyword research part in the beginning, but the niches I target typically have a search range of 10,000 - 20,000 monthly searches, less than 50,000 competing websites, and an estimated PPC of over $1.00 with at least 5 ads in the Google side bar when you look them up in Google. I pick my niches by looking around the house. All of my current niche products sell from between $15 - $2,000 (in various different niches, of course).

      I've been working on the above site since June 3rd. It currently receives an average of 59 visitors a day.

      I was going to move on this way and keep pumping out sites, but I've been thinking about starting an article marketing campaign for each site to test out their full potential, something I had planned on doing anyway after everything was built.

      The method listed above is just what I've been doing. It is by no means the best method of doing things. In fact, I'm sure there are plenty of other methods that are faster and much more successful. Perhaps some more experienced Amazon affiliates can chime in on what they think. Either way, I thought I'd share.
      Thanks! I'm getting more ideas now.. but the small return from Amazon still discouraging to me
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    • Profile picture of the author jeffster
      Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post

      I'm sharing partly because it's no fun doing a little happy dance by yourself in front of the laptop but also because this data highlights a few important points discussed in this thread.
      Haha... I know all about that happy dance. I made 10 sales over the weekend but it was midnight when I checked so luckily no one was there to see me!
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  • Profile picture of the author minitg
    Since Amazon is already a trusted site, if you have physical products, you can sell it there and count on their market base. Make sure you tag them with good keywords.

    I have no physical products, I only have digital and they pay about 35% of price and since my products are small ticket items the return is not that much, but counting on future sales picking up.
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    • Profile picture of the author tom03
      Has anyone tried using videos or powerpoints to sell amazon products? I guess without having the product it would be hard to make a video, but you could basically use images and text of your review for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author reynoldscorb
    Videos are a great way to promote a product. Upload a video to youtube and you should get a lot of traffic from that.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicelife
    I've been making good money with Amazon in the past and still make some, not much but a few hundred bucks a month anyway :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author toya
    There is alot of information in this thread, will consider Amazon as extra income.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicholas William
    ditto. I created a network of websites that focus on one line of products and have an amazon autoposter setup using wordpress. It ticks over just under a grand each month but that aint going to let me retire so it's not something I maintain or keep working on.

    I do more than that a week with clickbank products, but they're MY clickbank products and thats an entirely different topic to this
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  • Profile picture of the author Ofthemix
    It definitely works. I built an Amazon review site about 2 weeks ago. I've already made some money from Adsense, as well as 3 Amazon sales. Not bad.
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    • Profile picture of the author OliverTwizt
      Originally Posted by Ofthemix View Post

      It definitely works. I built an Amazon review site about 2 weeks ago. I've already made some money from Adsense, as well as 3 Amazon sales. Not bad.
      I apologise in advance for the barrage of questions, I'm looking at playing with Amazon again in some weird niches after seeing my CD sale referrals slowly die over the last couple of years...

      Where these review sites brand new, on new domains? Did they have existing traffic?

      I have a bunch of domains, (mainly generic product related) that I'd like to monetize with some Amazon/Autoblog type scripts, with one or maybe two adsense ads thrown in for good measure.

      My dilemma is on the traffic side of things - Should I start to just build build build, and then let organic SE traffic slowly trickle in, or should I be aggressive on the backlinking side of things and really take it one site at a time?
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      • Profile picture of the author Ofthemix
        Originally Posted by OliverTwizt View Post

        I apologise in advance for the barrage of questions, I'm looking at playing with Amazon again in some weird niches after seeing my CD sale referrals slowly die over the last couple of years...

        Where these review sites brand new, on new domains? Did they have existing traffic?

        I have a bunch of domains, (mainly generic product related) that I'd like to monetize with some Amazon/Autoblog type scripts, with one or maybe two adsense ads thrown in for good measure.

        My dilemma is on the traffic side of things - Should I start to just build build build, and then let organic SE traffic slowly trickle in, or should I be aggressive on the backlinking side of things and really take it one site at a time?
        The site in question that made the 3 sales is on a brand new domain. I actually just purchased 11 new domain names to play around with for Amazon. So, there was no existing traffic when I purchased them.

        Here are the steps I've taken to work with this particular domain/niche.

        1.) Install Wordpress (obviously)
        2.) Upload the Clean Copy theme. <--I'm currently testing out different themes to see what converts better. Actually, I'm going to be doing a ton of testing on these 11 domain names, including themes, plugins, review techniques, using video, articles, and what not. I know that's a lot to take in so I'm just going to tell you what's working with this one domain. I'll probably come back later and post what has worked the best when I'm done with everything.
        3.) Create a custom header with XHeader and upload it.
        4.) Do some modifying to the Theme so that everything looks right, and take out post dates. <---A lot of people leave them in, I don't think it really matters. I just like to take them out.
        5.) Set up my permalinks to /%postname%/, populate my pinglist, Install and configure the following WordPress Plugins:
        Akismet
        Google Analytics for WordPress (add site to Google Analytics at the same time)
        Google XML Sitemaps
        Max Banner Ads
        MaxBlogPress Ping Optimizer
        Platinum SEO Pack
        Recent Commenters Widget
        ReviewAzon <---This plugin you have to pay for. Currently I'm only using the Similar Products widget part of it.
        Subscribe Me
        Tell-A-Friend Widget Plugin
        Threewl-php-plugin <---I am doing 3 way link building
        Wp Robot 3 <---Another paid plugin. I use this one for posting.
        YD Recent Posts
        Yet Another Related Posts Plugin
        6.) Create content <--- I pull a product from Amazon using Wp Robot 3 and I save it to draft. Then I cut and paste Amazon's decscription into a Word document, then go on Amazon and see what other details I can find out about the product as well as reading all of the customer reviews. I create my reviews based on that information. My reviews are typically between 250 - 500 words long. If you've read all of the other posts in this thread you'll see that most people recommend writing longer reviews. I'll try that on a different domain. For the 1st 10 posts, I schedule them a day apart. After that, I schedule my posts one per week.
        7.) Do automatic search engine submissions.
        8.) Go back and do manual search engine submissions. Most people advise against this but I've never seen it hurt anything. I just do it because I don't fully trust the free submission tool I use. I only manually submit to Google and Bing.
        9.) Create a page for my blog on Aboutus.org
        10.) Ping my sitemap at Google Blog Search Ping Service
        11.) Add my site to Google Webmaster Tools.
        12.) Wait until the site gets indexed. It's rare that my sites don't get indexed within 24 hours.
        13.) Ping and Social Bookmark my posts. I ping with Pingoat or Pingomatic. I social bookmark with Onlywire. I do this as the posts/review are posted on a daily basis.
        14.) Add Adsense above the fold. I also usually include a text line under the main menu line.
        15.) For this particular niche I was also able to add a Clickbank product in the sidebar which has, to my surprise, gotten a few clicks already.

        The next few steps I do one a day as my blog starts populating posts.
        Day 1 was spent doing everything above.
        Day 2 Submit RSS feed with RSS Bot and then manually submit my RSS feed to a list of other RSS aggregators that aren't included on RSSBot
        Day 3 Submit my homepage with SocialBot. I only use about 25 of the social bookmarking sites on the program.
        Day 4 Submit my site with DirectoryBot.
        Day 5 Manually submit my homepage to some scuttle social bookmarking sites for extra backlinks.
        Day 6 Manually submit my site to high PR directories (PR6 and PR5) for more backlinks. These will build over time depending on how long it takes the directories to approve your site.
        Day 7 Write an article for Free Traffic Systems at freetrafficsystems.com
        Day 8 Create an open link wheel with about 8 different Web 2.0 sites.
        Day 9 Write an article for EzineArticles.
        Day 10 Use Angela Edwards backlink packet and do some backlinking.
        Day 11 Post to free classified ads sites. I write my ads as if I'm actually selling the product, then link back to my website. Right now I'm playing with the button images of my sites, testing what works better "Order Now" or "More Information".
        Usually on Day 11 I'm also set up 3waylinks <---something else you have to pay for. I pretty much just use it so I can move on to building my next site and not have to worry about link building for a little while aside from pinging and social bookmarking. I've only been using 3waylinks for about a month, but so far so good.

        Now I just wait and watch while my site does the Google dance and hope it will eventually land somewhere favorable. The first site I built for Amazon is starting to climb in ranks, so that's a good sign.

        I know I skipped the keyword research part in the beginning, but the niches I target typically have a search range of 10,000 - 20,000 monthly searches, less than 50,000 competing websites, and an estimated PPC of over $1.00 with at least 5 ads in the Google side bar when you look them up in Google. I pick my niches by looking around the house. All of my current niche products sell from between $15 - $2,000 (in various different niches, of course).

        I've been working on the above site since June 3rd. It currently receives an average of 59 visitors a day.

        I was going to move on this way and keep pumping out sites, but I've been thinking about starting an article marketing campaign for each site to test out their full potential, something I had planned on doing anyway after everything was built.

        The method listed above is just what I've been doing. It is by no means the best method of doing things. In fact, I'm sure there are plenty of other methods that are faster and much more successful. Perhaps some more experienced Amazon affiliates can chime in on what they think. Either way, I thought I'd share.

        Update 08/21/10: Just wanted to let you guys know that I've switched to using the Flexibility Theme for all of my Amazon review sites. It is much better for making your sites appear professional.
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        • Profile picture of the author OliverTwizt
          Originally Posted by Ofthemix View Post

          The site in question that made the 3 sales is on a brand new domain. I actually just purchased 11 new domain names to play around with for Amazon. So, there was no existing traffic when I purchased them.

          Here are the steps I've taken to work with this particular domain/niche.
          .......

          Wow, thank you for that detailed reply! I wasn't expecting so much useful information

          I've just purchased WPZonBuilder, and am going to give it a whirl with a kitchen product related domain.. I'll keep this thread posted with how it goes!
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          • Profile picture of the author jeffster
            I started with just adsense blogs and tried small Amazon product reviews instead just to see how they go and was surprised to find that I can make more sales than I get adsense clicks! Not to mention the site looks 10 times better than just sticking and ugly block of ads front and centre.

            I always thought it was easier for someone to click on an ad rather than actually buy something but it's not always true.

            Not that adsense doesn't work for some sites but I figure if you know what your traffic wants and there is a product you can sell why not give it to them rather than just passing them off to someone else?
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        • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
          Originally Posted by article_ghostwriter View Post

          I think the moral of my humble story is: ACT! All I invested was my time in researching (all from information freely available on this thread) and setting up my affiliate account and writing a HubPage.

          Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread - it's been hugely informative.
          Congratulations, ghostwriter! You are right. ACT. I relate putting content on the web to throwing a fishing net in the water. You aren't going to catch any fish without it.

          Originally Posted by jeffster View Post

          Haha... I know all about that happy dance. I made 10 sales over the weekend but it was midnight when I checked so luckily no one was there to see me!

          Hey!!! That was exactly how I danced!! (Seriously, I want that little guy!)

          Congrats on your sales. Don't you sometimes open your Amazon dashboard with one eye closed - (like how I watch the scary scenes in creepy horror movies)? There are certainly days that have goose eggs (big fat 0's in the sales column) so you tip toe up on the dashboard and then when you see more than you'd hoped for - well, just gotta smile at the very least. Maybe it's just me....


          Originally Posted by Ofthemix View Post

          The site in question that made the 3 sales is on a brand new domain. I actually just purchased 11 new domain names to play around with for Amazon. So, there was no existing traffic when I purchased them.
          Ofthemix - Congratulations on your sales AND your plan. That is a very thorough approach and easy enough for someone to follow even without the bots. Well thought out and thank you for sharing so much detail!
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeevee
    I have 5 blogs, all with Amazon. Traffic is OK.

    Total sales in the last 2 months. Zero!
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  • Profile picture of the author reynoldscorb
    33 sales in the last 7 days on my best performing Amazon blog. Amazon is great for conversion rates.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaqirHussyin
    I stopped promoting that stuff and now
    focus on prmiting real life changin, hardcore marketing stuff,

    pennines and a few pounds here and there is not worth it,

    if you want to start creating true wealth my advice is to start promoting high-ticket items,

    watch my free 100% content webinars and learn more.

    Shaqir H
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    Put the affiliate link back in and you will be removed from the forum

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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Thompson
    I wrote a detailed post on exactly how I make money on amazon. It is all outsourced.

    Doing Business Online: Outsourcing: Selling on Amazon
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  • Profile picture of the author BravoPUA
    wow, so much great info on here

    was just thinking about looking into Amazon

    thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author sickbaomei
    Hi Bilaal,
    I read from your blog that you are unhappy with Amazon because like ebay it suspend your account. Are you still using it with good results ?

    Would you mind to give afew tips on how many sites you made to earn $500-$700 in 2 weeks ? Do you promote high price items (since amazon pay just a small %age ) ? ..lastly, do you create your sites manually or use some amazon posting plugins ?

    Thanks
    Chris

    Originally Posted by billhuss786 View Post

    Hi mate, Amazon affiliates is really good. i have made about $500-$700 in about two weeks just from that. its not bad to be honest.

    Bilaal
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  • Profile picture of the author justcrowd2010