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Old 01-22-2009, 08:33 PM   #1
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Default Newbies Are Darn Lucky These Days!!

Why do I say that??

Less than 3 years ago it was a lot harder for a newbie to learn how to earn good money on the net but now...


( with all the step by step income plans, quality tools, resources & traffic generation tactics these days )


All a serious newbie has to do is...


- Pick a net business income model.

- Get the step by step knowledge to conduct the plan.

- Get busy conducting the plan. ( take strategic action )


Note: You must approach your business with the attitude of a scientist and not be afraid to test and to take action...


...or you will blow the best financial opportunity for modern man since we were allowed to make money any way we can - as long as it's legal.


To help eliminate Mr. Confusion, here's a very simple guide for you...


1: What is (going to be) your online business model??

In other words...

How do you plan to earn income??


Here are a few suggestions:

- Niche Affiliate Model :

You promote products that have nothing to do with how to make money for a commission.

None of your prospects will be trying to sell anything to you.

* you collect no payments
* you deliver no products
* you don't deal with customers
* you're a middle man between customers and companies that sell products or services
* you have a special link that credits you with a sale when you make a sale

- Make Money Affiliate Model:

You promote products that help other people make money online for a commission.

* same as above except you're promoting "how to make money" stuff.


- Info-Product Model:

You create and promote your own product.

* you create a product
* you'll collect payments
* you have to do customer service
* you deliver the product
* you must create a sales page

- Resale/PLR Model:

You purchase a info-product from someone else and then promote it as your own.

* same as above save you don't create the product and the sales letter should already be written for you.

- Adsense Type Model:

* Earn income without anyone actually purchasing anything:

You provide content on a page, people read the content and then you earn income when someone clicks on one of the ads surrounding the content.

- CPA Model:

* Earn income without anyone actually purchasing anything:

You earn by inducing your prospects to signup for free trial offers etc.


Guess what lucky newbie?

All of the above internet business models are proven to work and...

As a newbie, you really don't need too many more choices and of course there are a few variations for every model.



You can get into more exotic net business models and tactics later if you like, but first you must get a handle on basic net business tasks such as...


- Finding a group/niche of people to market to: ( I mean serve )

- Finding products for those people:

- Slapping up a landing page of some sort : web page - blog page etc.

- Getting your money links on that page:

- Generating visitors to that page:

- Getting enough of your visitors to do what you want them to do:

- Monitoring your results like a Jr. scientist:



Important to understand:


- You simply must make a choice of a net biz model, find, purchase or piece together a step by step plan for the income model/system/plan of your choice and then get busy implementing the plan.

It's only rocket science if you choose to make it so.


- Another very clear & important consideration for you will be...


How do you plan on getting prospects to your offers??


Guess what??

There are dozens of proven visitor generation tactics and you're going to have to pick at least one to start and if you master 3 or 4 of them you can write your own ticket.


Your choices will be free traffic or paid traffic or both OK?



And... ( let's not forget )



>>> Focus and strategic action are the keys to your success! <<<


All The Best For Your Success!

TL


PS. You are so lucky!


PPS. If you don't have a website or blog and/or never made any decent and steady money before - from your online business endeavors, you're not really qualified to dispute the positive and awesome differences between 3-4 years ago and now.

But your comments are most welcome.

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Old 01-22-2009, 09:34 PM   #2
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Default Re: Newbies Are Darn Lucky These Days!!

I agree with you in many ways.

But I think in one way a lot of us who started earlier (1999 - and there are others here that go back well before that) there was ONE advantage regarding your confusion piece.

I think it was much easier to know what was legitimate training back then. At least that's
how I remember it. Maybe it was a bigger mess than I recall, but it seemed like everyone knew to get information from.

- Cory Rudl (yes, it wasn't the best organized information, but I can look at that original course today and there's still some great info in there).
- Declan Dunn
- Marlon Sanders (I actually had his "malgorithm" flowchart taped to my wall for a while - and while basic by today's standards, one point he drove home early on was the importance of the quality of the traffic)
- Jonathan Mizel (Anatomy of an Internet Marketing rollout)
- Terry Dean's NetBreakthrough's forum
- Michael Campbell (talking about "long-tail" WAY before the current "glitz" of it)

I'm leaving some out, but even if I expanded the list it might reach a hundred or so rather than the tens of thousands of possible choices newbies are confronted with today.

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Old 01-22-2009, 10:09 PM   #3
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Points well taken.

Newbies have tons more choices as to who they want to learn from but paypal and clickbank provide newbies with protection.

If they purchase a how to course and it's full of bull or even stuff they don't really want to do, they can get their money back in a heartbeat - guaranteed.

If the newbie decides on an income model first, it will eliminate lots of confusion because all they have to do next is find someone, a ebook, course etc. to teach them that model and then get busy with the testing.

All I'm trying to do with this post is to help newbies to be clear about what they are trying to do as in which income model will they use.

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yeah but then do not forget that just because there is more information out there does not mean that it is good. there are step by step plans put together by halfwits on theory and there are step by step plans that are missing vital information forcing people to always by the next step.

i think what is really great about the internet marketing community today is people are lot more willing to SHARE their knowledge. i have found a mentor and have had very helpful information given to me for free just because i was polite and curious. where as before i think people were more guarded.

so, yeah long winded way to say hooray for today!

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Thats fine advice to all Newbies perhaps i should add they must be willing to put in lots of time and keep their imaginations fresh

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I see both sides of the argument here, but one thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that WAY more people are doing this type of marketing now. There is tons of information for newbies, but you have to work much harder in my opinion these days to make a LOT of money. It's easy to make a little.

B4...10 guys making 10000
Now...10000 guys making 10

Thats how I see it.

But don't give up newbies, rise above, compete!

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Default Re: Newbies Are Darn Lucky These Days!!

The 10 guys who were making 10000 before are probably making 10 times that now, but I agree there are many more into IM now.

There's much more information now for newbies, which is good but it also adds to their confusion about which way to go.

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Ruth you are almost surely right. Those "10" guys are making tons of cash now...tons of cash now.

So I'll pose this question about those "10" guys.

First they started affiliate marketing like us...then they started selling information about HOW TO affiliate market. Now that we all buy their books, what are they making money on next?

The market is oversaturated with HOW TO books, the way to get rich these days is to think of the 3rd phase. Hmmm...I'm still thinking, hahah.

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I don't know. But if you think of it, please tell me!

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Great post! This is a very nice breakdown for the beginning internet marketer.. I agree that the most difficult part is finding training or people that will actually provide you with valuable information in regard to getting traffic i.e. seo techniques like article directories, do follow blogs, content writing with keywords, anchor text links all the bells and whistles that let internet marketers get the traffic they need to be successful. There are several people that actually try to help newbies make money online whose sole intent isn't just trying to sell them something.. These people include Grizzly, Vic, The University Kid etc.. Follow these guys because what they are offering is a no "BS" masters in internet marketing...

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Nice post, TL..

As I see things nowadays, the 'Internet Marketing' market is way to oversaturated to compete in. now, that's not to say you can't be successful with it, but for people just starting out, it's like a giant ocean (as oceans tend to be). So many people have so many different products and reports and such out there it's pretty much an information overload.

So, my advice to any beginner would be to steer clear of the IM market itself and go for the affiliate-niche business models instead (like the ones outlined in the top post). That way, it's not like dropping a line in the middle of the Pacific..
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Sirtom, the saturated markets are sometimes the best ones to be in...

I started just over a year ago and got into the make money online niche myself maybe seven months ago and have done very well. The best part about it is, it hasn't been very hard.

As far as the forum goes....THIS PLACE ROCKS!

I can honestly say that if it were not for some of the advice and instruction that I've been given here in conjunction with some of the products I've purchased from the WSO section, I would not have done nearly as much business as I have this past year.

For that, this place gets a big two thumbs up!

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Old 01-23-2009, 05:25 AM   #13
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I see both sides of the argument here, but one thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that WAY more people are doing this type of marketing now. There is tons of information for newbies, but you have to work much harder in my opinion these days to make a LOT of money. It's easy to make a little.

B4...10 guys making 10000
Now...10000 guys making 10

Thats how I see it.

But don't give up newbies, rise above, compete!
Point well taken but...

If the newbie operates outside of selling how to make money stuff their chances of success increases 10x. ( in my opinion and on average )

When you operate in the how to make money niche - almost everyone of your prospects is also trying to sell something to you also.

There is no other niche like the how to make money niche.

That cuts down on your pool of prospects by at least 90% and if you offer is nothing special, you won't make any headway.

It's way easier to make an impact in other markets.

TL

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Old 01-23-2009, 05:30 AM   #14
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Gosh that's a blast from the past lol

One of the very first forums I ever joined

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yes and no.....

yes,there is a lot more info available......

but also a lot more webmasters.....

and still only 10 results on the first page of google.......

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I remeber back in 1998, there was literally no special guide how to make the money online. Like for Ewen Chia, he started out learning everything by his own. Today thanks to many guys out there, we have so much good information to use.
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Thanks for the useful post, Man!

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We must thank all the Guru's for introducing us to so many systems and allowing us to purchase them time and time again.

I started with nothing and still have most of it left!
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The market is oversaturated with HOW TO books, the way to get rich these days is to think of the 3rd phase. Hmmm...I'm still thinking, hahah.
Whatever the "3rd Phase" is that you're referring to, it's going to encompass Web 2.0. ie.. Video.

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yes and no.....

yes,there is a lot more info available......

but also a lot more webmasters.....

and still only 10 results on the first page of google.......


Your right ( about the search engine stuff ) and gobs of free ongoing search engine traffic is the holy grail but...


... with 50k plus niches to operate in and quite a few proven online business models and numerous proven methods of generating traffic...


.. these will be looked on as the golden years for newbies that have their heads on straight and are deadly serious about creating another source of income using a net based business.

The resources to make that happen are right here at this forum.

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I am a newby and I have a great deal of quality information to sort through. I am currently taking a class and it is really helpful. Also remember some newbies are business savy but need some coaching.
One of my main points is that you don't have a lot of info to sift through.

Too many newbies are making things a lot more complicated than it has to be and they ( predictably ) soon have paralysis of analysis.

This is not rocket science.

It's about selecting an income model, and getting something (ebook, videos, personal coaching etc. ) that will show you - step by step how to conduct the model.

Selecting a income model gets rid of a lot of confusion.

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That's an excellent post for someone that is seeking knowledge of the various models.
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I see both sides of the argument here, but one thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that WAY more people are doing this type of marketing now. There is tons of information for newbies, but you have to work much harder in my opinion these days to make a LOT of money. It's easy to make a little.

B4...10 guys making 10000
Now...10000 guys making 10

Thats how I see it.

But don't give up newbies, rise above, compete!
With tons of other niches to operate in you don't have to compete in one of the toughest markets online.

You're not saying or believing that online business is only about selling how to make money stuff to others are you?

Because there are at least 50,000 other lucrative niches or groups of people you can market to and get this ...

...they won't be trying to sell anything to you.

It's 10x easier for a newbie to make a impact promoting stuff that has nothing to do with "how to make money" to others.


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Well I´m a newby, I´m a part of an online program that teaches all about being a good affiliate, I didn´t know what an affiliate was before I started, but in 5 days I made $130, pretty nice... but still I think all this is a bit overwhelming, so much information. I get a little bit confused... but that´s probably just in the beginning
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Yes you are right Newbies have it so easy because everything is layed out for them. But i guess that's how just it works these days.

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Thanks for the info outline. Newbies, where you at? This is totally a self expalnatory info for you
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I'm a newbie and believe me I know how good I have it!! I've been a member of the forum for awhile but I have only recently started to actively participate. Now the next challenge to overcome is INFORMATION OVERLOAD, there is so much useful info here it's hard to focus on one thing.

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I'm a newbie and believe me I know how good I have it!! I've been a member of the forum for awhile but I have only recently started to actively participate. Now the next challenge to overcome is INFORMATION OVERLOAD, there is so much useful info here it's hard to focus on one thing.
Well guess what?

If you don't focus you'll never make any money.

Info-overload is overrated and crushed once you select an income model.

You need to participate by focusing on selecting an income model above.

You don't have that many choices.

Review the income models and select one that you think is best and easiest for you to conduct.

I suggest either...

- The niche affiliate model:

- The adsense model:

or the

- CPA model:

These are the easiest models for newbies to conduct and achieve success.

Hope This Helps!!

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Very comprehensive & no fluff post. Thanks TL!
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To admit, i was pretty overwhelmed when i first got started with IM. Too much info on the net and people selling their own products.
But what i did was pretty simple, studied the different marketing techniques that various gurus implemented, derived my own business model by picking and choosing, and wrote my own complete action plan. Switched off to the rest of the techniques for time being and practiced the Power of Focus. The results are awesome!
That's what I'm talking about!

Newbies must select a income plan, get the step by step help they need and then get on with the business of conducting the plan.

Plan selection, focus and strategic action are the key to success.

The part of the process that has the most choices for the newbie is how to market your offer(s)...

... not what income plan will you choose.

Too many newbies are allowing the numerous choice of marketing techniques to cloud the picture and create an atmosphere confusion.


Simply select an income plan/model as a first step and it will eliminate all confusion.


What income model are you using for bring in the buckeroos?

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You can give someone a Ferrari, but if they don't know how to drive it (or they just want to drive it fast TODAY!), they will crash it.

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You can give someone a Ferrari, but if they don't know how to drive it (or they just want to drive it fast TODAY!), they will crash it.

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Excellent points raised. The newby CERTAINLY does have better opportunity these days - however nothing beats the LIVE SEMINAR for the ultra fast rise to the top - providing you can hook a mentor!

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The high quality live seminars and mentors are usually designed for people that already have an idea of what they're doing such as...

they've already know how to...

- selected an income plan
- selected a niche to operate in
- find or create products to offer to the people of the group/niche
- slapped up landing page(s)
- generating traffic to that page

But there are some very good video courses that will show folks just about everything.

The high priced one on one mentoring is usually teaching advanced traffic and conversion techniques.

A couple years ago I remember Bill Mc of the System Seminar saying on his sales page that if you haven't gone through the basics mentioned above his advanced course is not for you.


Conquer and actually do the basics and everything else will be simple.

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We must thank all the Guru's for introducing us to so many systems and allowing us to purchase them time and time again.
If the newbie made an serious effort to declare their online business model they wouldn't have to purchase a bunch of net biz systems.

All they need is one decent step by step plan for a system.

The confusion occurs when the newbie has not taken the time to properly understand the different methods/models of earning income with a net based business and then...

a lot of confusion occurs because the newbie gets traffic generation methods mixed up with online business models.

So the whole thing looks like they have so many choices when the big choices comes when they have to select a traffic generation method to bring visitors to their offers.

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Yes it is easier for a newbie these days.
I tryed to start my busines 2 or 3 years ago.
Had realy not much information.
Didnt earn anything (ofcorse i expected that i will earn millions in few days ehh) Didnt know adwords as well so i went bankrupt in my new business
Now im back again learning, learning and learning again and only then i will start to put some money in to business if i will have some for the moment
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B4...10 guys making 10000
Now...10000 guys making 10
You're leaving out a LOT of factors in that equation.

There are probably hundreds of times as many people online now as when I got onto the Net. Most of those people are many times more willing to spend money online as they were back then. And they're looking for all types of products that weren't available online in those days.
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So I'll pose this question about those "10" guys.

First they started affiliate marketing like us...then they started selling information about HOW TO affiliate market. Now that we all buy their books, what are they making money on next?
Flawed assumption: Most of those people were not making money primarily through affiliate products. They sold their own stuff.

The "next" market in that sequence has already been identified: Higher priced and more in-depth back end products.

There are other sequences, too. It's not much different than offline. There are only so many things people want to buy. The trick is identifying them, and hitting all three of the ways to increase your business. More sales, bigger sales, and selling more often to the same people.


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Eric,You're leaving out a LOT of factors in that equation.

There are probably hundreds of times as many people online now as when I got onto the Net. Most of those people are many times more willing to spend money online as they were back then. And they're looking for all types of products that weren't available online in those days.Flawed assumption: Most of those people were not making money primarily through affiliate products. They sold their own stuff.

The "next" market in that sequence has already been identified: Higher priced and more in-depth back end products.

There are other sequences, too. It's not much different than offline. There are only so many things people want to buy. The trick is identifying them, and hitting all three of the ways to increase your business. More sales, bigger sales, and selling more often to the same people.


Paul

Paul's right! ( and he should know)

and I think you're only looking at the "how to make money" niche when there are now numerous other lucrative niches now in the equation.

Everything related to conducting business on the net is 10x better for serious newbies who are ready to first get an proven income model and then take strategic action to create another source of income.

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You are right it may be easier BUT these ideas only filter down once the experienced Im'ers allow or need to show these things to make money.

I'm new to IM but have just started a offline self employed business in my trade.I want to learn IM to get sites up on the first page for my chosen area\keywords.
The cashcow programme and similar ones are exactly the strategies my offline business use now.
I have plans to start getting into affiliate marketing at a gradual speed.

As with any overpopulated business the secrets come out quicker when more people are vying for a living,this is why some great ideas are coming into play for a newbie far quicker than it might otherwise have.

I am grateful to this forum.I've bought several WSO's not one has been a let down,maybe as I'm new I am absorbing everything but if anyone ACTS on these ideas ,techniques,they will make money.
I think because the internet is so big there are ample opporunities for all.
There is alot crap out there as well,but I can honestly say(and I've parted cash so the answer is honest)nothing here has let me down and IMPLEMENTATION of ideas bought here is the key.

So as a newbie I'd like to thank everyone here for making it easier,I made my first £'s last night as an affiliate,it felt good,the sum was very small but thats not the point I wouldn't have made it without good advice.
Good luck to everyone out there.
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You are right it may be easier BUT these ideas only filter down once the experienced Im'ers allow or need to show these things to make money.

I'm new to IM but have just started a offline self employed business in my trade.I want to learn IM to get sites up on the first page for my chosen areakeywords.
The cashcow programme and similar ones are exactly the strategies my offline business use now.
I have plans to start getting into affiliate marketing at a gradual speed.

As with any overpopulated business the secrets come out quicker when more people are vying for a living,this is why some great ideas are coming into play for a newbie far quicker than it might otherwise have.

I am grateful to this forum.I've bought several WSO's not one has been a let down,maybe as I'm new I am absorbing everything but if anyone ACTS on these ideas ,techniques,they will make money.
I think because the internet is so big there are ample opporunities for all.
There is alot crap out there as well,but I can honestly say(and I've parted cash so the answer is honest)nothing here has let me down and IMPLEMENTATION of ideas bought here is the key.

So as a newbie I'd like to thank everyone here for making it easier,I made my first £'s last night as an affiliate,it felt good,the sum was very small but thats not the point I wouldn't have made it without good advice.
Good luck to everyone out there.

Well the cat is way out the bag now.

All the basics and nearly all the super high level techniques have been revealed.

The newbie needs to get a income plan and conquer the basics of the income plan/model first, then they can get into the super high level techniques.

Sure there's a lot of crap out there but if a person purchases through paypal or clickbank they are protected.

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Hi Guys,

As i am new here but have been reading IM for quite long time. But now then i really start why? Because in the past it's really info-overload plus that's so much things that i am not comfortable with. However with new business models to learn from. I believe this is the time to really start it.

For me i will just focus on one plan, when i really understand on that plan.[how it's work] Then i will start focus on other plan as they are actually the same but with some tweak here and there.

I believe IM is something that even when you hit 60, you will not get afraid of losing your income..cos as you gain more knowledge..you definitely have more advantage!

IM is the way to go!

However do you start full-time IM when it's suppress your fulltime work or only when you start getting result [Let's say 1000 per month] you will just quit your fulltime job and concentrate on IM?

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Although I agree that there is a lot more information available to newbies nowadays, I find that the majority of it is unreliable and incomplete.

As a newbie myself, I've found that most of the information I've found online, although boasting to be simple, is actually more complex without proper understanding of internet marketing technologies & principles. Without finding a good mentor, I think newbies nowadays are more likely to sink than swim because they will find contradicting, and often times, incomplete sources of information on particular topics.

You'd be amazed at the amount of people bamboozled out of their hard earned money by listening to all the hype about getting rich quick!

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Access to information in my opinion has never been the missing key. Before the internet there were and still are mountains of great books inside of libraries to learn from.


The key has and always will be people taking action. Protection from fraud is nothing. Because no matter the protection set up people will still get screwed one way or another. But when you take action and fail you learn how to roll with the punches and keep on keeping on.


Business online or off is not about luck. It is about action. Take it and you won’t need luck.

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As a complete Newbie myself I found the information and tips on this

thread to be highly informative.

Thanks to all.

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Yep...

When I started out there were far fewer networking and promotional channels. It was far more difficult to get your foot in the door.

Now with video sharing sites, blogs, rss directories, podcast portals, social bookmarking, social networking etc. there are tons of legitimate ways to get your message out and viewed.

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Although I agree that there is a lot more information available to newbies nowadays, I find that the majority of it is unreliable and incomplete.

As a newbie myself, I've found that most of the information I've found online, although boasting to be simple, is actually more complex without proper understanding of internet marketing technologies & principles. Without finding a good mentor, I think newbies nowadays are more likely to sink than swim because they will find contradicting, and often times, incomplete sources of information on particular topics.

You'd be amazed at the amount of people bamboozled out of their hard earned money by listening to all the hype about getting rich quick!

I'm not amazed at all.

And why do most of those people fall for those silly get rich quick claims?

I also disagree with the basic premise of your post:

These are the absolute best of times for a newbie that has their head screwed on straight.

Newbies need to understand what a net business models is and that they need to go about finding one to get started with.

Also...

- Successful online business is not a one shot deal - it's a process:

- Successful online business is about doing not endless research etc.

- It's 10x easier for newbies to make good money if they operate outside the "how to make money" niche and not try to sell how to make money materials...

... but instead operate in the numerous other lucrative niches.

- Making money online is not rocket science.

- There are the simple basics such as... ( most most models )

* slap up a page (with content) on the web with money links on it:

* get people to visit that page:

* get enough people to do what you want them to do at the page so you can make decent money:

About confusion...

The newbie gets confused because they have not taken the first major step of getting a proven net business model.

Taking that first step will destroy most of their confusion surrounding online business.

Some people simply need to grow up or they'll never take advantage of the wonderful opportunity online business provides us.


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I will agree with everyone above who says the average newbie today has a a lot more free, good quality info accessible to them... and therefor stands a greater chance of actually making some money online.

I also agree that there is way more competition (not necessarily better competition) and much more garbage info out there.

Now, my theory on this is... regardless of when a person starts their online venture... there is a learning curve. And I don't think the average newbie has evolved or anything... so...

Is that learning curve any different now from 2 or 3 years ago... it can be but in most cases, I don't think so...

A newbie today will still be subjected to useless crap flooding their inboxes... (and this is where that information oveload takes place)... and they can spend the next 3 months spinning their wheels, get frustrated and in all probability... just give up.

So how is this different from 2 or 3 years ago?

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I couldn't agree with you more! Perhaps, that's where I went wrong. The issue is that the learning curve has not changed.

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Once the newbie gets their head on straight and decides on a proven online business model/plan - that's step # 1 and until the newbie can muster up the courage to do that they will be lost in...

Over-analyzing - Research Something To Death - Mr Info-Overload Land and never make any money.

( A true tragedy since these are the absolute best of times for people with their head screwed on straight and are willing to get busy and go through their own learning curve )


And the learning curve has changed 10x for the better. ( for anyone with common sense )

Here's how...

Website/page creation:

- Now a newbie has numerous quality free websites or blogs for landing pages - that do not have ads all over them.

- Just 3 or 4 years ago a newbie had to purchase a website in order to get started and most did not have the easy point & click templates that are available -

- people had to know HTML and either painstakingly code the website by hand or pay dearly to have others do it for them.

- Now, a newbie does not have to know HTML or purchase a website hosting account to get started and website page creation is a breeze for anyone with basic common sense - that really wants to learn how.

Here's an example of a free high quality website resource:

http://www.synthasite.com/googppc2

When it comes to promotion:

- Now a days a newbie has 100x more places and established methods of promotion - free and paid.

3 years ago, there was no...

... video sharing sites, blogs, rss directories, podcast portals, social bookmarking, social networking, web 2.0 etc. the amount of article directories and let's not forget the newer & awesome content distribution networks that have sprung up over the last year or so...

...there are tons of legitimate ways to get your message out and viewed that were not here just a couple of years ago.

Conversion:

- Now the newbie has numerous easy to install softwares and scripts to maximize their ability to convert visitors into cash when people visit their pages.

Instructional:

Videos are now all over the place and darn cheap or free to actually show someone how to do almost everything anyone has or wants to learn to be successful.

The same could not be said 3 or 4 years ago.

You are dead wrong when you say the issue is that the learning curve has not changed.

Tools and resources for online business success ( free & paid ) are light years ahead of what newbies had to deal with just a couple years ago.

Hope This Helps!!

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synthasite eh??? Do you have any good examples of sites you made with this software? Sorry for slightly going off topic here, but this software looks pretty clean and I'd like to see an example before I test it out.

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Nice post! And great conversations after that ... And we newbies are coming here with high-speed!

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