Hilariously fake CPA landing page

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16 years ago

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Daniel Adams 16 years ago

Make sure you have Google pay you in bricks of cash. Easier to fan yourself that way.
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- Simon Ashari 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Daniel Adams
  
  Make sure you have Google pay you in bricks of cash. Easier to fan yourself that way.
  
  LOL!
  
  still though, well done to whoever it was that made this. As was mentioned in a previous post, its not like everyone who is an affiliate for weight loss products are all skinny.
  
  classic stuff.
  
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Cash37

16 years ago

Outing landing pages isn't cool.

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Jenni Mac

16 years ago

Good for him, whoever he is!

I mean we all market the latest weight loss product, dating site and wrinkle cream like we'd use those products ourselves! As if our reviews and "highly recommends" come sincerely from our hearts and not our bank balances!

Whoever he is, I hope the guy's making some good money! Why? Because he's put it out there!

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raiko

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jenni Mac

Good for him, whoever he is!
Whoever he is, I hope the guy's making some good money! Why? Because he's put it out there!

Wow, that's the only standard that exists nowadays huh? "Put something out there" and you deserve to make bank? That ad is complete BS. I would guess he hardly makes anything. There are a thousand different namemakesmoney sites. I see the domains expiring all the time. It's really just another scam, forced continuity site that, given the amount of similar sites out there now, will cause Google and the FTC to crack down even harder on IM.

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- clbeav 16 years ago
  
  The landing page is genius. It promotes itself to the average person, by getting them to think that if that guy could do it, surely they could.
  
  Other than that, for people who's been in the IM biz, it serves as a good laugh. I saw something similar on a basketball forum that I was on. I clicked the page to see what it was about, and had a good laugh .
  
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Jenni Mac

16 years ago

Originally Posted by raiko

Wow, that's the only standard that exists nowadays huh? "Put something out there" and you deserve to make bank? That ad is complete BS. I would guess he hardly makes anything. There are a thousand different namemakesmoney sites. I see the domains expiring all the time. It's really just another scam, forced continuity site that, given the amount of similar sites out there now, will cause Google and the FTC to crack down even harder on IM.

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As marketers we find our own individual levels of what we consider ethical and unethical. Just because this type of marketing is what you consider "BS" doesn't make it so!

I simply applaud a guy who gets out there and tries something instead of sitting around moaning that he hasn't got any money and is too scared to try something.

Would I do this? No! Do I call it BS, no! I call it creative and I call it "good for him!"

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raiko 16 years ago

Yes, well, when you see the $40 charged to your credit card the next month and then call "the number" to cancel and the number has been canceled it doesn't seem so fantastic then. And then the next month when another $40 is charged. So then you have to call your credit card company and go through the hassle of removing the charge and keeping them from charging it again and again. Not only that but the demographic that this guy (and those similar to him) is preying upon probably seriously suffer due to his exploitation. But, hey, at least he's out there doing something. Kind of like a pick pocket gets out there and "does something" as well. Nice standard.
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Steven Heron

16 years ago

I must say the landing page is very well done. Funny, but smart. He knows his target audience.

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gabidragomir

16 years ago

indeed, very nice page, everybody will subconsciously think, 'if this guy made it, i can do it too ! '

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Mike Hill

16 years ago

He is testing two similar landing pages on different domains (.com and .net) subtle changes ... smart dude!

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Micheallatour

16 years ago

Who ever is behind that is making bank!
Rent a couple of cars along with an actor and boom!
your done...just go to a hip hop forum and you'll see that
ad every where.

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Shakul

16 years ago

He must be making a good bank if he is getting traffic.

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Shakul

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Stephon "Phon" Rudd

Not anymore. Look at the discussion I'm having with another on this very topic:

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ews-yahoo.html

Ok.

There are many more "easier" ways to get "much targeted" traffic to the recurring offers. However, many of these ways comes under blackhat.

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Zach Booker

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Stephon "Phon" Rudd

Yeah, black hat is powerful stuff if you can stay under radar. Only problem is, scalability. With a media buy, all I gotta do is drop $20K, send traffic to my flog, and I'll make $50K or more, no problems.

Next month, I could just drop the whole 50 and make $120K. Can't do that with black hat. Not without a lot of work. But, it does work, you're right.

EXACTLY!

People seem to brush off this whole Yahoo!/Facebook stuff like it's no big deal.

Where else can you safely pay half a mil and make atleast double?

I've heard of guys paying 7 figures and more for media buys and acting like it's nothing.

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BigVin

16 years ago

If you disregard the fact of whether he's telling the truth or not... it's a hell of a job selling.

He's sitting in and driving exotic cars so there's major proof right there (even if it's not his or they're rented or whatever).

The offer is for $1 or 2 so how's that for a low risk offer (yes I know what it's for).

He's hit it right for his target market (a subsection of get rich quick market).

I'm sure if it is his page and hes doing media buys it could really be his.

If you set aside the possible moral implications... it's a damn good sales page.

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- BigVin 16 years ago
  
  Hi Alexa,
  
  It's not "real" proof. But it's social proof. Is it more believable when you see a picture of a guy leaning up against a car in a parking lot... or more believable when you see the guy actually driving it (and not looking around for when the owner is getting back)?
  
  Many people are going to believe it's his car even if it's a rental.
  
  It's definitely not actual proof. Any rich kid that actually OWNS the car could make a video showing proof it IS his car... but it doesn't mean he made the money by doing what he says.
  
  But it's much more believable then having someone on a video saying "hey, this stuff works, I own exotic cars" but doesn't show them.
  
  And hey... there's 2 exotic cars in the video. So they're paying at least $4,000 in rental fees to make that video. How many people do you know spend that much on their internet videos? (setting the morals of deceiving aside).
  
  Anotherwords he's making an outrageous claim. No one would believe him if he was just standing on the sidewalk. But with him driving the cars many people will believe it's possible. Especially when the offer is for only a couple dollars (even though they're sneaky about the recurring billing).
  
  It appears at first glance that hey... I'm only risking a couple dollars and if this kid is right it's worth it.
  
  Vin
  
  Originally Posted by alexa_s
  
  How is it "major proof" (or even "any proof" of anything at all) if they're rented for the day to make the video? :confused:
  
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markdsullivan

16 years ago

my favorite quote from the video:

"I luv dis internet"

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metafever

16 years ago

Did he really say hes a "7 figga nigga" now ?

HAHAHAH . . . .

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spsfinest212

16 years ago

That video is pure comedy.

Whoever came up with the idea is a genius, I almost signed up but then I read the fine print and they say after my 7-day trail they start billing my credit card every month $79

(Alt-f4)

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BigVin

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Stephon "Phon" Rudd

He is. People are missing the point here.

The point is creativity and sales. He's very convincing and he keeps it real. Now, he's been studying on business psychology because people WANT to buy from real people, so that video was highly effective.

I'll buy from a guy who uses swears and talk street over the guy in the business suit trying to upsell me ANY day. Why? It seems more authentic and that's all customers want. They want authentic success, not some guy trying to sell them on something.

This guy on this blog is awesome.

Bingo!

This guy IS his target market.

He's saying exactly the right things that his market wants to hear.

Small town boy makes it...

The people he's selling to have instant empathy with him... and he comes across as real to them. They don't want some slicked back guy in a suit telling them that... they want one of their own.

Ever see dubs magazine... or heavy hitters magazine... same target market. And it will work very well for those in that market.

And if the kid did create that video and is running media buys, etc... and he isn't a millionaire right now... there's a good chance he soon will be.

Or more likely someone hired him to make the commercial. Paid him a grand. And now they have a custom sales pitch to a specific market that will convert like crazy... that if they went the "traditional" way wouldn't convert for that market well at all.

I'm not saying it's right, but it is very effective.

Vin

P.S. It's instant empathy. Take for example if you wanted to teach people to swim for competition's. Would you rather have Michael Phelps be the "hero" or would you rather have the 40 year old mom (who won the gold medal... can't remember her name) be your star?

I'd choose the mom anyday because she's part of the crowd that people can identify with. A 40 year old mom appears normal. Michael Phelps is a physical freak that not many can identify with. Even though it's nearly impossible for anyone to compete on the same level as either of them, more people think they can with the mom as opposed to Phelps.

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ChrisBa

16 years ago

oh man - that one is a classic!

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DH Harris

16 years ago

I love the background scene of South Beach and the cars rented from the Exotic dealership on 5th and Washington Ave.

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Learnanew

16 years ago

Cheddar version 2.

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Daniel Adams

16 years ago

Oh it gets better. James' friend Kevin only makes $20k a month but he lives in a house on the water and has 3 cars. Apparently he still has crap credit bc he walks around with 5 stacks in his pockets

YouTube - jamesmakesmoney's Channel

20k views in 2 months though. Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised the actual owner of the sites has that house and "James" and "Kevin" are his boys from his entourage.

I havent seen acting this good since the Rich Jerk was popular. If the owner is on Warrior Forum, I tip my hat to you.

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BigVin

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Adams

Oh it gets better. James' friend Kevin only makes $20k a month but he lives in a house on the water and has 3 cars. Apparently he still has crap credit bc he walks around with 5 stacks in his pockets

YouTube - jamesmakesmoney's Channel

20k views in 2 months though. Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised the actual owner of the sites has that house and "James" and "Kevin" are his boys from his entourage.

I havent seen acting this good since the Rich Jerk was popular. If the owner is on Warrior Forum, I tip my hat to you.

Look at the comments on there. Tell me it doesn't do a good job of selling to that target market.

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ChrisBa 16 years ago

Originally Posted by BigVin

Look at the comments on there. Tell me it doesn't do a good job of selling to that target market.

He does do a good job selling to his targeted market.. but to those like us who know better, it is very funny
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mrsuccessful 16 years ago

This kid has a rare niche "make money online" site and I bet he is doing well converting his targeted visitors. Could definitely do without the profanity though as I don't think that adds anything to his pitch.
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tehgoon

16 years ago

Hahah smart one, but I am not sure if people would really believe him, i wouldn't.

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nailzer09875

16 years ago

As far I know this is a revenue sharing fact. Whenever you go to those sites you may noticed one think the before playing the video you have to install one or two components which is actually Pay per install category earning process. So, if you can go through such application to your site you can earn such amount I believe.

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Shana_Adam

16 years ago

They all seem to have the name James.

How about Jimmy Bob?

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ChrisBa 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Shana_Adam

They all seem to have the name James.

How about Jimmy Bob?

LOL..

Maybe they aren't as creative as we think?
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JRecard

16 years ago

While I think it is great marketing - I think if the kid showed a little more confidence around and with the car - the whole concept would be more successful.

For example - if he didn't look so nervous about hurting the car when he sits down. The way he says "look at my rims" but then looks at them himself to check out the sweet car he'll never get. Just the little things that make a difference.

I think his friend 'Kevin' is a slighty better actor.

But the only time I think he seems truly confident is when he says "It's thug motivation like Jeezy said"

And when they walk near the computer - he looks scared to touch it.

My favorite bit though, is the baby crying in the background with the mother laughing - IN HIS HOUSE! and then to top it all off - at the end of the video - he says "Im'a go pick up one of my ladies - and thats just one of them" hahaha

Anyway - I'm sure it gets the people in - maybe next time it would be worth dropping one of the cars and paying an actor.

The Rich Jerks ad was better

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tmedocianis 16 years ago

Good read Jrecard. That's exactly what I got. But, he is a paid actor, just not a good one. So, paid actor, rented cars and professional photographer. Get over it already. The rich jerk was brilliant marketing, this flog-fake news crap is just lies. It's easy to sell if you're willing to lie. That's why they're all hiding now. They're not great marketers, they're not thinking out of the box, they're just telling lies. Get over it. Now, is there something to learn, of course, but what, that's up to you.
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Internet Undertaking

16 years ago

I don't know why there are people on this forum that bag on this guys site. It maybe funny to look at from a professional stand point, but come on. Take a look at it from a marketing perspective.

Imagine how much people this website is attracting. Its not targeting webmasters. Its targeting complete newbies who have no idea what the money making world holds. Unethical to take advantage of them? maybe.... But its business at its best

in the money making industry. I would never do this, just because, well I wouldn't have thought of it... and this wouldn't be how I'd like to make money. But the fact is. He is probably racking in loads of sales from 18 year olds looking to make money online.

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zachary0611

16 years ago

Its brilliant well at least some people might learn the basics of the internet

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free2rock

16 years ago

How can I get a landing page like that? I'm sure hes' making a living if getting the right traffic to the young audience. Rent 2 cars and an actor...damn smart scam I say. Isn't they all do this on the late night informercial anyways?

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Al Jones 16 years ago

Im surprised by the fact that he's gone to the effort to make a video. Most guys don't. It should help him.
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JayInOrlando

16 years ago

well the youtube account is suspended.

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Amir.S

16 years ago

Funny video, thanks for sharing, made me laugh.

Well force continuity is never a good thing, I have never done this method myself, even though it has made a lot of people very rich. I dont think its morally and ethically right.

Apart from that hes a smart marketer, hes hit his demograph squre on the head, I think he could make even more money if he had a few hiphop honeys in bikini dancing around him. lol

Having said that I belive all hes doing at the end of the day is pick pocketing from people who dont have much money to begin with. How do people like these sleep at night?

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K Smith

16 years ago

"you look like you lie for a living stfu niggas aint dumb"

^ posted in a comment to the facebook version, apparently not everyone is convinced

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csgcsg

16 years ago

this is a good video and marketing, the moment it is being spread, shared and commented on, it has done its purpose of marketing it well

how many of us wish to have that kind of exposure level?
it doesn't matter some are hateful by calling him a liar or fake but i am very sure he will get more than the cost of production of his/her video.

congrats to the video owner for making something.

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ex9to5guy

16 years ago

im guess this site wot be around come dec1

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Andy Money 16 years ago

One of the comments on a "is this a scam?" type review sites of james makes money was the following:

"i live in the hood im tryin to make gwap with out getin shot or life in the box how do i know this will work"

Egh.
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RichPirate

16 years ago

well, look you guys are talking about it, a lot. even if more than 50% is negative. Studies show if your first impression of something is positive the more you are exposed to it the more you will think positively about it.

The more something is repeated the more true it becomes. This is genius because this guy is totally unreal and you want to show it to your friends whether you want to buy the product or not, but someone does want to buy and that person will be more likely to see it the more you are like, "hey check this out, it's ridiculous".

either way, this is ridiculous :-)

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rgenterprise

16 years ago

lmaooo that was so friggin hilarious and genius marketing tactic lol. Or maybe not- Out of curiousity I checked his site views and it went from 22,000 unique visitors in April to 100,000 uniques in May to 135,000 uniques in june to 8,700 uniques in July to ONLY 730 uniques in August and only 770 uniques in September. And his youtube channel got suspended. Wonder what happened lol

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Zach Booker

16 years ago

Most of the times these sites - flogs, fnews, etc - only go for a few months like you found out below.

I believe he just did a 6 figure media buy, made some cash, and moved on.

Most campaigns, for some reason or another, simply start going downhill. Mainly due to the same people seeing the ad over and over and saying, "I've already seen that..."

Zach

P.S - Still having around 10k uniques a month after everything is pretty impressive.

Originally Posted by rgenterprise

lmaooo that was so friggin hilarious and genius marketing tactic lol. Or maybe not- Out of curiousity I checked his site views and it went from 22,000 unique visitors in April to 100,000 uniques in May to 135,000 uniques in june to 8,700 uniques in July to ONLY 730 uniques in August and only 770 uniques in September. And his youtube channel got suspended. Wonder what happened lol

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Kevin AKA Hubcap 16 years ago

The only problem I have with this entire funnel is the hidden continuity on the offer page.

When you fill in the form you go here-->LINK

Notice how you don't see anything about the two continuity programs you're signing up for.

If you scroll to the bottom of the page, in the fine print, you're told that you'll be charged unless you cancel but notice how the numbers are written out.

As for the James makes money site, IMO, it's no better or no worse than a commercial.

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3Dman

16 years ago

anybody who made this did a great job ,but i personally don't like the CC processor ,i would use the same style as the main landing page ,im gonna go rent a lambo tomorrow to make one like this lol

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Ladyk1 16 years ago

watch out Rachael Ray ! LOL
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Mohammad Afaq

16 years ago

I would not be amazed if this landing page gets a conversion of 10% or more. For a second I was kinda into the video and I don't know why but I watched the whole video (while knowing that it is fake).

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