by xoon
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I suck

3 months and I'm yet to have a single sale of a few affiliate products I'm advertising on one of my blogs.

I know it because of low number of visitors, obscure keywords they are using to find my blog, and I guess overall target audience (seo/webmaster).
Or do people mostly use email lists for that? To be honest I don't want to spam people via email (I use a little images/banners in the sidebar)

I feel kind of discouraged

I don't know, maybe I should just stick to adsense. Seems like it's much easier to get people to click then to buy anything.

I just need to find a way to earn at least $20+ per month, per website (I've got around 50 domains but most is not developed yet).
  • Profile picture of the author imback
    Keep Your Head Up!

    Things like this take time and dedication, but in the end it is worth it!

    It took me three years to consider myself a Internet Marketer.

    Let me try and help you...

    Have you started to build a Email List?
    -This is a must for long term CPA profit
    Have you tested different offers?

    Have you tried promoting your offer and sub offers via free methods?

    Have you been doing good SEO?


    Just a few questions for you to ask yourself. If so then great job a keep it up! You will get there soon...

    Check out these threads for some tips...

    http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...pa-offers.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...-marketer.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...10-50-day.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...a-network.html
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  • Profile picture of the author xoon
    Thanks for the links.

    Are you saying it's useless to go into affiliate marketing without email lists?
    Maybe it's just me but I don't don't feel comfortable spamming people with emails.

    Maybe I should stick to Adsense... :/
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael_Le
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    mate,

    im in the same boat........
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    • Profile picture of the author imback
      Originally Posted by xoon View Post

      Thanks for the links.

      Are you saying it's useless to go into affiliate marketing without email lists?
      Maybe it's just me but I don't don't feel comfortable spamming people with emails.

      Maybe I should stick to Adsense... :/
      Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

      mate,

      im in the same boat........


      It is not useless to go into affiliate marketing without a list. So many different free ways out there to generate traffic and make some money.

      Building a list allows you get keep a relationship with your visitors and they will want to come back. Remember you do not need to "SPAM" them. Send them a weekly newsletter with helpful information. Be creative with it
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    • Profile picture of the author DudleyDog
      Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

      mate,

      im in the same boat........
      Don't put yourself in the same boat as anyone, unless you own the boat yourself, else you'll end up drowning with the rest.

      Cast your line to pastures new. Try a different approach and you might be surprised at the results.

      Not so long ago I found a way out of the rat race. I'd be happy to help out if you've got the willpower to succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author esoomllub
    I had the same basic feeling as xoon. I am so anti-spam that I had a hard time getting over the idea of emailing a list. But... if you keep your emails regular (weekly, monthly, whatever you tell them you are going to do), opt-in, easy for them to opt-out... you will not have that spamming feeling (is there a song in that phrase ) You will simply be providing them with what they signed up for.
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    • Profile picture of the author imback
      Originally Posted by esoomllub View Post

      I had the same basic feeling as xoon. I am so anti-spam that I had a hard time getting over the idea of emailing a list. But... if you keep your emails regular (weekly, monthly, whatever you tell them you are going to do), opt-in, easy for them to opt-out... you will not have that spamming feeling (is there a song in that phrase ) You will simply be providing them with what they signed up for.


      Not only what they signed-up for, but also giving them additional information they might want!
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  • Profile picture of the author dacahe
    It's not pointless but you have to define what BUSINESS MODEL you are in.

    If your deal is clickbank products in the typical affiliate business model, most likely you want to build a customer list, simply because without it you can hardly call it a business model.

    Too often people coming into internet marketing, forget about basic business principals. In any small business offline you need a customer base, if you have them on a list much better, but think about your average restaurant, develop, over time, a customer base, (your regulars) smart restaurant owners develop a list, but if not you have the location where people come back and become your regulars.

    On the virtual world you don't have a location where people come back and build an emotional connection to the place. So the list becomes you number one asset into building that relationship and that emotional connection. Even you you just have a blog and is your main objective through adsense, a list becomes the best way to say "Hey Guys we Have Something New" come back to our store.

    If you are doing CPA you don't need a list. But in the traditional clickbank affiliate model if you don't build a list you are at the mercy of Bigg Momma Google and all the search engines, and many other factors for that matter, without a customer base you have no business because you have no asset.

    Now regarding spamming people, that depends on what type of products you are promoting, if you are promoting garbage and you know it's garbage than yeah, you are spamming them and quite frankly I hope you don't succeed.

    Nothing personal against you, but if you are just trying to trick people into giving you their money knowing that you are not providing anything of value, that's not cool, and frankly that is what is wrong with our industry.

    If on the other hand you are providing value to people and helping them along their own journey, than keep it up, we need more people like you, in that case you are not spamming at all, you are taking your time to add to people's lives and you should be monetarily and emotionally rewarded for it.

    Either way 3 months is nothing, remember that you are building a business.
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    • Profile picture of the author danlew
      Don't just rely on banners to earn you commissions, make sure you do some reviews in your blog site as well on products you have tried and add your affiliate link in the post and get that post to the top of Google for the relevant keyword!
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  • Profile picture of the author Acumen
    Originally Posted by xoon View Post

    I suck

    3 months and I'm yet to have a single sale of a few affiliate products I'm advertising on one of my blogs.

    I know it because of low number of visitors, obscure keywords they are using to find my blog, and I guess overall target audience (seo/webmaster).
    Or do people mostly use email lists for that? To be honest I don't want to spam people via email (I use a little images/banners in the sidebar)

    I feel kind of discouraged

    I don't know, maybe I should just stick to adsense. Seems like it's much easier to get people to click then to buy anything.

    I just need to find a way to earn at least $20+ per month, per website (I've got around 50 domains but most is not developed yet).
    Good for you. Honestly, the money you get from spamming people will never really make you happy because your mind won't be at ease. Stick to the honest marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author imback
      Originally Posted by Acumen View Post

      Good for you. Honestly, the money you get from spamming people will never really make you happy because your mind won't be at ease. Stick to the honest marketing.
      A real email marketer never spams. They provide their list with valuable information to make their bond even stronger than it was before. Building a relationship with your customers is essential to long term growth

      Whether it is through emails, newsletters, Facebook, or twitter
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  • Profile picture of the author aini235
    Help me make money
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    • Profile picture of the author imback
      Originally Posted by aini235 View Post

      Help me make money
      Keep working and maybe one day you will be helping people like myself!

      Good Luck be sure to look around the warrior forum it is a great tool
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      • Profile picture of the author joebel
        Try to get started all over again. Always make sure to make keyword research as well as product research. If you do it in the right way maybe after 3 months you will achieve sales that you are wanted. Don't give up! Tommorow is another day.
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  • Profile picture of the author minisite
    When I tell people that I do Internet marketing part time, they ask if it involves a lot of work? I tell that IM is like anything else, if you want to be good at it you must learn all the fundamentals and apply what you've learned in the internet. Once you've learned the basics, move on to a harder task or project. I consider IM similar to learning a new musical instrument. If you've never played a guitar before pick one up and start jamming. If you can play like Jimi Hendrix for the very first time then you have a god given talent and you should join a band. But my point is, everyone SUCK at the very beginning and improve overtime with practice. Don't give up man, you're already 3 months in.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by minisite View Post

      When I tell people that I do Internet marketing part time, they ask if it involves a lot of work? I tell that IM is like anything else, if you want to be good at it you must learn all the fundamentals and apply what you've learned in the internet. Once you've learned the basics, move on to a harder task or project. I consider IM similar to learning a new musical instrument. If you've never played a guitar before pick one up and start jamming. If you can play like Jimi Hendrix for the very first time then you have a god given talent and you should join a band. But my point is, everyone SUCK at the very beginning and improve overtime with practice. Don't give up man, you're already 3 months in.


      I always tell people to put in as much work into their IM as they would a semester or two at a University. We are talking the all-nighters, the working on weekends, everything you SHOULD be doing when you go to college.

      Too many people approach this business as a hobby when they should be approaching it as a business

      This is not directed to the OP, just a general comment.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Originally Posted by xoon View Post

    I suck

    3 months and I'm yet to have a single sale of a few affiliate products I'm advertising on one of my blogs.

    I know it because of low number of visitors, obscure keywords they are using to find my blog, and I guess overall target audience (seo/webmaster).
    Or do people mostly use email lists for that? To be honest I don't want to spam people via email (I use a little images/banners in the sidebar)

    I feel kind of discouraged

    I don't know, maybe I should just stick to adsense. Seems like it's much easier to get people to click then to buy anything.

    I just need to find a way to earn at least $20+ per month, per website (I've got around 50 domains but most is not developed yet).


    What type of SEO are you doing for your sites....are you doing enough backlinking, unique drip fed content, on page stuff is good, etc?
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  • Profile picture of the author williamrs
    3 months, no commissions and you suck?!

    So what about me? It took me 2 years to make my first penny online!

    You're not doing bad, having a learning curve is 100% normal, so don't get discouraged. I'm sure that you can do better than me and start making consistent money in much less than 2 years.

    For me, what made a huge difference and allowed me to go from spending $xxx a month to making $xxx a month was structuring my IM business as a real business. I decided on the model that I wanted work with, chose a traffic source and took action. I decided that I would stop jumping from one system to another everyday, so I sticked to one thing and after a few (not many) failures I started making money with a very simple concept.

    So I think that you should do the same. Decide on what types of offers you want to promote, what niche(s) you will work on and choose a specific traffic source to use. Then, take action, keep focused and let your own experiences (not ebooks or videos) teach you the main lessons that you must learn to build a real business. Don't take me wrong, videos and reports can be extremely helpful, but I think that any full-time affiliate would agree with me when I say that there are lessons that only experience can teach us.

    Good luck!


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  • Profile picture of the author WhosGotMoves
    I'm in the same boat as you, xoon. I'm feeling like quite the failure. However, I try to keep a line I read on this forum fresh in my mind:

    "The biggest mistake I think noobies make is that they quit too early."

    Basically, it was someone stating that they felt that new IM'ers quit when they are extremely close to success. It keeps me going and helps me to remember that I really do enjoy the work that goes into IM, we all just hate failure. I wish I had written down who stated that quote.
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    • Profile picture of the author imback
      Originally Posted by WhosGotMoves View Post

      I'm in the same boat as you, xoon. I'm feeling like quite the failure. However, I try to keep a line I read on this forum fresh in my mind:

      "The biggest mistake I think noobies make is that they quit too early."

      Basically, it was someone stating that they felt that new IM'ers quit when they are extremely close to success. It keeps me going and helps me to remember that I really do enjoy the work that goes into IM, we all just hate failure. I wish I had written down who stated that quote.


      You never know what is behind the other door
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  • Profile picture of the author Jackie Walters
    Hey!! You do NOT SUCK!!
    Listen, you are new and may have not known anything at all about this stuff before you joined the program you are with. Please let me help you - it takes time and dedication especially if you start out as a total newbie. If you are having trouble with getting traffic or sign ups, research the say top 2 methods - I can give you recommendations here but it sounds as though you re too fed up & you can still get them that way. If you would like to email me directly and ask ?'s I would be happy to help you. My email & this email has nothing to do w/my website is b4nevr@yahoo.com, my name is Jackie & would be happy to help - I have felt so lost in this before too - whatever you do DO NOT GIVE UP!! : ) I mean it!!
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by xoon View Post

    I suck

    3 months and I'm yet to have a single sale of a few affiliate products I'm advertising on one of my blogs.

    I know it because of low number of visitors, obscure keywords they are using to find my blog, and I guess overall target audience (seo/webmaster).
    Or do people mostly use email lists for that? To be honest I don't want to spam people via email (I use a little images/banners in the sidebar)

    I feel kind of discouraged

    I don't know, maybe I should just stick to adsense. Seems like it's much easier to get people to click then to buy anything.

    I just need to find a way to earn at least $20+ per month, per website (I've got around 50 domains but most is not developed yet).
    Just by reading this I can tell your really lacking a strategy and plan, I think you need to develop this before proceeding
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  • you should not discourage yourself. just stick into what are you doing. you do not suck because it is just the beginning not the beginning of ending. you should work hard more and more and someday success will knock your door.

    do not go for spamming. just stick into your honesty , if you earning at a low rate, it is good ;you are earing in an honest way. i think little extra work on your keyword research and pulling some more traffic in your site can remove your frustration.

    do not be tensed and best of luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Q
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    Originally Posted by xoon View Post

    I suck

    3 months and I'm yet to have a single sale of a few affiliate products I'm advertising on one of my blogs.

    I know it because of low number of visitors, obscure keywords they are using to find my blog, and I guess overall target audience (seo/webmaster).
    Or do people mostly use email lists for that? To be honest I don't want to spam people via email (I use a little images/banners in the sidebar)

    I feel kind of discouraged

    I don't know, maybe I should just stick to adsense. Seems like it's much easier to get people to click then to buy anything.

    I just need to find a way to earn at least $20+ per month, per website (I've got around 50 domains but most is not developed yet).
    Hey man!

    I also suck and discouraged in CPA marketing once for soooooo many months, because I do it the wrong way and I'm a complete idiot out there. I bought a lot of CPA WSO's which really didn't work for me until......I just keep digging and digging till I finally figured it out which gave me great results. Hahaha!

    Don't give up and stick to your positive attitude man! Working hard is not yet good enough, but try to be smart and creative. At least you know the strategies that may not work for you, do something new! Internet was really huge!

    You can do it!
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