E-mail Submits on PPV - Step 1

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Alright guys, I've seen a fair bit of questions on this recently, so I'm putting together something quick and easy on how to make it work, this will be step/part 1 - depending on interest and participation I may or may not make more..


Step 0 - The Prechecks

Prior to starting this, it's good to have the following:
- At least 1 domain
- Web hosting
- Tracking setup (prosper202 is my choice for people just starting off)
- CPA network accounts
- PPV network accounts
- Basic html/php knowledge or at least enough to write a redirect to start
- Basic knowledge of how to track


Step 1 - I need to pick an offer

For this example I am going to look for a well known company/store and try to find an e-mail submit for it, the first thing that comes to my mind is Walmart (mostly as I have a walmart bag right beside me and everyone has heard of walmart.)

So from here I head over to Affiliate Marketing - Find the Best Affiliate Programs and CPA Offers from OfferVault and see which networks have this offer. Or I can check on the networks I am currently a member of to see if there is an offer for this. There are several Walmart e-mail submits so we are in luck!

So bottom line - we have our offer - walmart e-mail submit. Now here's the other trick, we aren't going to just limit ourselves to 1 e-mail submit, we are going to gather 4-6 to start, but they all need to be a walmart e-mail (pin, or zip) submit.


Step 2 - Select the PPV traffic source and country

For this one I am going to be traditional and use US traffic as most of the walmart e-mail submits are for US only, from here I can decide which PPV traffic source to start with, we will start with one, then after we see success we will move to others. My recommendation is Trafficvance or Lead Impact.


Step 3 - Landing page or direct link

This is the age old question, both can work, often landing pages make it easier to convert. Since people often tend to start without one, for this example I am going to say direct link. Just remember when direct linking to take a look at the merchants landing page in the window the size of the pop-up (typically 750x550 or 800x600)


Step 4 - Targets (URLs/Keywords

Now, the approach that 19/20 people will take is try to come up with obvious keywords/urls for this.. such as walmart, walmart.com walmart .com, walmart com, wal mart, wal mart.com, wal mart .com, etc..

The problem with this is if so many people do this, the harder it will be to make profit as you will be competing with everyone else.. for this example, we are going to take 1 small step away from this, in google into the search throw in site:walmart.com, this will give you all the results on the domain walmart.com, see an example screenshot below



The other search which may or may not help is searching for walmart gift cards, walmart giveaways, walmart contests, etc.

This should at least get you started, this isn't really 'out of the box', but just a simple way to try to get away from some of the competition, like I said earlier if there is enough interest i'll do another post and show a few other idea's on how to get out of the box..


Step 5 - Start your campaign

One of the biggest mistakes that people new to this make is lack of action and just too much focus on blogs and forums, they have their place, but in the end you need action as well. Set the campaign up and get it going. Then after that, setup another campaign, and keep going. Not every campaign will be a success but if you start enough you should see some with potential.


Step 6 - Track everything, and don't shut it down too soon

The other huge mistake that people new to this make is to shut down the campaign too soon and not track properly. It is imperative that you track everything, when you make a conversion you need to know the target, the date, time, etc - you need to know as much as possible.

The second part is often people will stop the campaign way too soon. There isn't really a golden way to determine how long to run a campaign, one way you could use for e-mail submits is just watch your amount spent per target, once a target hits the amount that the e-mail submit pays, if you do not have a conversion for that target - pause/delete it.

This is one of the hardest parts of this in my eyes is watching the campaigns and knowing when to stop or modify. Unfortunately it only comes with trial and error in my opinion.


Hopefully this post will benefit and help some people out, I have lots more that I can share - but it all depends on how successful this post is.. good luck everyone!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mahmoud Selman
    Awesome stuff ChrisBa as always, Thank you and I would love to see some more posts from you on this subject.

    I would only add testing landing pages with CPVDen Tools - Preview Popper according to which PPV network people want to use to see how they will appear on a PPV window.
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    • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
      Originally Posted by Mahmoud Selman View Post

      Awesome stuff ChrisBa as always, Thank you and I would love to see some more posts from you on this subject.

      I would only add testing landing pages with CPVDen Tools - Preview Popper according to which PPV network people want to use to see how they will appear on a PPV window.
      Agreed, i was looking for this - thanks for finding it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffoski1083
    Hey Chris, thanks for this very insightful tutorial. Always wanted to get into PPV and this post couldn't come at a better time. Thanks again.
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  • Profile picture of the author jordanberg2311
    This is absolutely gold!
    Great for someone just starting out, doubt about ppv traffic and also those who want to get their feet wet!!

    Brilliant!
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  • Profile picture of the author Lostitnow
    Great Post, please keep them coming....

    One question Does LI allow bidding on walmart.com for walmart gift card submit ??
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  • Profile picture of the author david15923
    I was thinking of starting PPV in a few months, this should help a lot, keep doing them plz!

    In the next one can you talk about how to make a good landing page?

    Anyways, Thanks for this
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  • Profile picture of the author thesilvershield
    Thank you Chris!

    This post is really helpful! As a newbie, I understand I am on the right track. I started with direct linking and then built landing pages. I've been testing them for some time. My mistake was to end the campaigns too soon, I am definitely changing this. I'm also trying to learn offer rotation. Looking forwad to reading your next posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author chintanshah
    Is there some guide you guys could point me to with tracking ppv and prosper.
    Thanx.
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  • Profile picture of the author Naveen K
    Awesome post Chris! Thanks for sharing.
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    • Profile picture of the author simplesequence
      Great post Chris!

      I dabbled in CPA back when the Arbitrage Conspiracy came out. I roughly broke even, but stopped doing it because of the complexities of PPC. I had a 60 hour a week job back then I didn't have time to monitor the campaigns as much as I should have in the beginning.

      Anyhow, I haven't played with PPV yet, but I've been about a bit on the Forum the past few days. I definitely need to get started.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kohldia
    Awesome stuff Chris, gold value.
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  • Profile picture of the author farairo
    You made it easy & simple ...should be a good starting point for fresher..
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  • Profile picture of the author thesilvershield
    I just wanted to add that we can also check the window size of the offer's landing page at popitfast.com

    Come on guys! Involve in this post so that we can read the step 2 by Chris!
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    • Profile picture of the author Tony Dean
      Originally Posted by thesilvershield View Post

      I just wanted to add that we can also check the window size of the offer's landing page at popitfast.com

      Come on guys! Involve in this post so that we can read the step 2 by Chris!
      Seems not to be there, or offline for maintenance perhaps.
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    Good solid information provided here.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Also in case anyone is wondering, here is a quick little mini case study on how I made a ton of money with ppv - http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...igns-date.html. I made the post a bit ago, but the content still holds true
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  • Profile picture of the author Jetmir
    Thank you for sharing this information with us, Chris. That's some very useful information.
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  • Profile picture of the author swm
    nice post Chris! Please write the next part
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  • Profile picture of the author Joey Babbs
    chris thanks....I always thought an email submit campaign would be too low paying to make any profit....really 1000 impressions is usually $15 or more...am I right?

    For most newbies out their they tend to think that PPV is cheap traffic but it is not if you cannot get high CTR....

    Sometimes a good media buy might be a heck of a lot cheaper for CPM especially on one of the sites you find in your search for web urls....

    My question is....what is your CTR in order to make this profitable, and how do you get high CTR? Is it by laser targeting only the "store" urls in your keyword choices?
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    • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
      Originally Posted by freddyfortunes View Post

      chris thanks....I always thought an email submit campaign would be too low paying to make any profit....really 1000 impressions is usually $15 or more...am I right?

      For most newbies out their they tend to think that PPV is cheap traffic but it is not if you cannot get high CTR....

      Sometimes a good media buy might be a heck of a lot cheaper for CPM especially on one of the sites you find in your search for web urls....

      My question is....what is your CTR in order to make this profitable, and how do you get high CTR? Is it by laser targeting only the "store" urls in your keyword choices?
      I don't like working with email submits to be honest, but I do think they are a good place to start to get people's heads wrapped around it.. the good thing about this idea/method is you are somewhat targeted where you are targeting visitors of that site and offering them a gift card, i think you could maybe take it the next step where you target people buying from the site (if possible), or somehow have an intention of buying (maybe checking store locations, hours, stock, etc)

      CTR can be deceiving too, really my main focus is EPC. Watch the campaign, if you are getting leads but not enough to cover the cost of the traffic, then you know you need to work on your CTR, this can be adding a landing page (or modifying it), changing keywords/urls, etc
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    thanks for the tut
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  • Profile picture of the author dswconsulting
    Call me an idiot....I just can't seem to get what your doing here. Are you being paid affiliate commissions for providing leads to businesses? If your brand new to this - Where do I began figuring this all out? (I tried searching google and WF but didn't piece it together)
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    • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
      Originally Posted by dswconsulting View Post

      Call me an idiot....I just can't seem to get what your doing here. Are you being paid affiliate commissions for providing leads to businesses? If your brand new to this - Where do I began figuring this all out? (I tried searching google and WF but didn't piece it together)
      This is just one way of generating income from a traffic source (ppv) to a type of affiliate offer (cpa - email submit in this case)

      try searching about traffic sources (seo, ppc, ppv, facebook ads, article marketing, youtube marketing, etc), then search for types of offers (cpl, cps, cpa, etc)

      This should start to point you in the right direction
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  • Profile picture of the author harrysehgal12
    Can we start with many offers at the same time. How many days we generally should keep the campaign active and then see if they are not converting so that we can delete or pause it. Can you also pm me with some out of box ideas I cant send you a pm with less posts. So please send me pm.
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  • Profile picture of the author btyiw
    Chris,

    I'm running into some issues with this and I'm trying to figure out what these statistics are telling me. Here are some screen shots of my p202 back-end. Is it normal for no leads to be coming through, especially if the CTR% is in the range that I have?

    Keywords LP CTR: Analyze Your Keywords | Awesome Screenshot
    Referrers LP CTR: Analyze Incoming Referers | Awesome Screenshot
    Landing Pages: Analyze Landing Pages | Awesome Screenshot
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    • Profile picture of the author POLLITO122
      Originally Posted by btyiw View Post

      Chris,

      I'm running into some issues with this and I'm trying to figure out what these statistics are telling me. Here are some screen shots of my p202 back-end. Is it normal for no leads to be coming through, especially if the CTR% is in the range that I have?

      Keywords LP CTR: Analyze Your Keywords | Awesome Screenshot
      Referrers LP CTR: Analyze Incoming Referers | Awesome Screenshot
      Landing Pages: Analyze Landing Pages | Awesome Screenshot
      Be cautious because sometimes these very big CTR's are given by some bots of these sources. And this can bring you quality issues with the scrubs. Once i had more clicks than impresions but any conversion.
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      • Profile picture of the author TakenAction
        thanks for this little guide!
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      • Profile picture of the author btyiw
        Originally Posted by POLLITO122 View Post

        Be cautious because sometimes these very big CTR's are given by some bots of these sources. And this can bring you quality issues with the scrubs. Once i had more clicks than impresions but any conversion.
        I've been using DirectCPV, do you think they're faking the clicks and impressions?
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        • Profile picture of the author POLLITO122
          this can also be done by competitors. One easy thing you can do to try to filter it, is go to the spy tab of tracking 202 and check the ip's of all clicks. if there are a lot of ip's with the first three groups of numbers that are the same, it's some robot that is attacking your campaign. Then you should ban this group of ip's (if directcpv allows you it).

          I just discovered a group of ip's that were attacking my adult dating campaign with adwords. the campaign was giving me a lot of clicks, but the offer was receiving like 10% of these clicks. And i found that it was because 90% of clicks were from a group of ip's from keywords written in arabian alphabet with the same ip group (there were also two more robots from a different ip group), and surely the advertiser or the network had already banned this group of ip's.
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  • Profile picture of the author ochaim
    Great guide, Chris!

    I'm currently fumbling a bit setting up my first campaign, creating a landing page.

    Didn't know about tracking, so thanks for mentioning that.
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  • Profile picture of the author benq99
    Great stuff as always!
    Thank you Chris!
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    • Profile picture of the author POLLITO122
      I have been using leadimpact in the past and i had steady EPC's of $0,63 in ipad submits (these that pay $1.25 per lead). The problem is that every click was costing me like $1.5 or so, and i found no way to decrease this price (surely because of a too low budget to test properly).
      The trick is harvest emails with an autoresponder and then ask the person to confirm his email before getting the ipad. And set the confirmation message to redirect them to the affiliate link after confirming.

      This way you filter like 60% of people that submits fake emails or does not confirm, so the traffic sent to the advertiser has a lot more quality (this is very important for the scrubs...).

      But this way you also need to test: form, confirmation page, and confirmation email.

      And you also have a mailing list too.

      And i think that with Adwords i would get millionaire very fast with this method (far easier for me to get clicks) but guess what, they do not allow me to do that.(and the adcenter gives me very low traffic). And i learned to do it because they suspended my site because there were redirects to affiliate links, and then i had to rethink the situation and harvest emails to send the submits there. But when i resubmited the website with forms instead of redirects they said that i was ofering free stuff in exchange of emails. After like 6 months and many trials, i converted my website to promote adult dating, with a dating blog... and i got approved the next day. But with adult dating it does not work the same way.
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    Very good information. I am also impressed.
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    Great Post! Excellent!
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerjaysen
    hey cool man and thanks for the detailed advice.

    Curious....what tracking software do you use? If you're just redirecting a domain...then how are u tracking? thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author POLLITO122
      I make a html redirect to an affiliate link, so i can place tracking codes in it.
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    Is cpvden preview popper correct for adonnetwork? and if so what is the size of their pop under?
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  • Profile picture of the author firstexistence
    Thanks ChrisBa for this wonderful post.. Im a newbie on CPA and i recently got accepted into a CPA network. I want to ask the following questions.
    1. what kind of landing page should i create for the Email submit?
    2. How do i link the landing page to the CPA offer.

    Examples or link will be appreciated. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author mickmesh
    Great Stuff Buddy....anything like this on ppc?
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    thanks for this tutorial.thanks!
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    Thanks brother I was planning to take action and this motivated me a lot (y)
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  • Profile picture of the author neutralhatter
    Good way of researching 1 type of long tail keywords. Will be a bit more difficult in some other niches though. But I like the fact that you are not only using the keyword tool like everyone else.
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