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Warriors,

Anyone has been part of Beta testing Google Cash Detective? When is it out in the market? Reviews?

Thanks,
#cash #detective #google #refunds #review #scam
  • Profile picture of the author A Bary
    Originally Posted by Amfire View Post

    Warriors,

    Anyone has been part of Beta testing Google Cash Detective? When is it out in the market? Reviews?

    Thanks,
    oh almighty god,

    not again!!!!!!

    GCD will be back?

    I was part of the first release of this product,, and it was way the biggest failure in internet history,
    Don't know if there're improvements to the software, but it was one of the most painful experiences in my life,
    Chris Carpenter is a good marketer, I learned from his google cash ebook, but this software affected his image significantly
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    • Profile picture of the author Eswar
      Try some good alternatives such as ppcbully and keywordspy. These services are far better than googlecash detective.
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      • Profile picture of the author assoc
        Im using it now and they have really got it working like a champ.
        When it first came out it really sucked but now I can see every keyword for any
        ppc campaign on google and how long the ad has been running in minutes
        in my opinion it really does what they say it does and there are no monthly fees.
        Brian
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        • Profile picture of the author crudenbay
          Yep, forget what you heard about GCD first time around. I've used just about every spy tool there is (PPC Bully, iSpionage, Zamdoo, Under Cover Profits, AdSpyPro, etc.) and this is the best.

          Main reason is that it has a database of a couple million keywords and has been tracking them for several months. All I do is drop in a keyword, and I see every advertiser's ad that has been running against it, and how long they have been running.

          All other tools require you to enter your keywords, then wait until they BEGIN searching on them, from that day forward. So you'll wait 20-30 days to see if the keyword is still being run by an advertiser.

          GCD gives you that data now, so it slashes the time it takes to enter a market. It lets you see all the advertisers ads and in some cases you can see what other markets that advertiser is in (useful if you want to track and emulate a superaffiliate.)

          I went through the pain of the first GCD launch, and was skeptical when I heard it was back out. But I've been using it for a month, entering markets profitably, as well as expanding my keywords for existing markets I am in.

          I can tell you Chris has done a real good job of turning the GCD ship around. Keep an eye out for the launch (although I am part of the beta I am not privvy to the launch date.)

          Cheers,
          Frank
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          • Profile picture of the author legitimatemoney
            Originally Posted by crudenbay View Post

            Yep, forget what you heard about GCD first time around. I've used just about every spy tool there is (PPC Bully, iSpionage, Zamdoo, Under Cover Profits, AdSpyPro, etc.) and this is the best.

            Main reason is that it has a database of a couple million keywords and has been tracking them for several months. All I do is drop in a keyword, and I see every advertiser's ad that has been running against it, and how long they have been running.

            All other tools require you to enter your keywords, then wait until they BEGIN searching on them, from that day forward. So you'll wait 20-30 days to see if the keyword is still being run by an advertiser.

            GCD gives you that data now, so it slashes the time it takes to enter a market. It lets you see all the advertisers ads and in some cases you can see what other markets that advertiser is in (useful if you want to track and emulate a superaffiliate.)

            I went through the pain of the first GCD launch, and was skeptical when I heard it was back out. But I've been using it for a month, entering markets profitably, as well as expanding my keywords for existing markets I am in.

            I can tell you Chris has done a real good job of turning the GCD ship around. Keep an eye out for the launch (although I am part of the beta I am not privvy to the launch date.)

            Cheers,
            Frank
            Ditto on Frank's comments.
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    • Profile picture of the author richfit
      Originally Posted by goldmind123 View Post

      oh almighty god,

      not again!!!!!!

      GCD will be back?

      I was part of the first release of this product,, and it was way the biggest failure in internet history,
      Don't know if there're improvements to the software, but it was one of the most painful experiences in my life,
      Chris Carpenter is a good marketer, I learned from his google cash ebook, but this software affected his image significantly
      Hey man,

      His software has been fixed and has been cleaned up. Chris knows that his reputation was on the line back then and didn't see the problems exploding before his eyes. Even if you don't get the software on the release date, I suggest you check out his videos...they Rock!

      They were so good in fact I couldn't sleep...
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      I think you should keep yourself from trouble. It is a smart move on your part to ask this question at this time.
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    What do you mean there is no monthly fee? I just signed up and there is!
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    • Profile picture of the author wilson765
      Originally Posted by toptones View Post

      What do you mean there is no monthly fee? I just signed up and there is!
      I don't think you've signed up for version 2 my friend as the launch date is not till 10th March.
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      • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
        Yes - there is a monthly fee for Google Cash Detective. Some beta users
        received a complimentary membership, to exchange for honest feedback.

        This is the best spy software on the market - full stop.

        Chris has invested over $350,000 into developing the software.
        I don't know many other gurus who have spent that sort of money ...

        In fact - I know of none

        GCD is pretty insane! (Full disclosure - I'm associated with this product)
        The upcoming launch videos will completely "re-define" the way the
        Internet Marketing community thinks about spy tools in general.

        It took me less than 5 minutes to "find and clone" an unbelievably
        profitable, long-term affiliate marketing campaign, created by
        some poor fellow ...

        He (she?) probably ensured months of hard 'trial & error', attempting to
        find the most profitable keywords. Which advertisements got the most
        clicks. How much to pay per click. What position to place advertisements,
        and most important of all- what actual product to promote ...

        And yet - I cloned the entire campaign, from top to bottom in less
        than five minutes. It's instantly profitable. I got it all down on video.

        Like I said ... this software is about to change *everything*.

        No one's affiliate campaigns are safe any more ...

        Even landing page campaigns get ripped to pieces and totally revealed.

        No one is safe. Everyone's successful affiliate marketing secrets are
        about to be unveiled in just weeks ...

        If you have an existing, Google Cash direct linking, or landing page
        orientated campaign (that's making you money right now) ... well,
        it's only a matter of time until you have dozens of competitors.

        The longer you have been making money - the most trouble you're in.

        Google Cash Detective 2 allows customers to peer into the entire PPC
        campaign of literally anyone. Millions of keywords are being tracked.
        Millions and MILLIONS of advertisements. Affiliate links - and dozens
        of other metrics. This software is 100 times more powerful than the
        next most powerful spy tool. (That's not even an exaggeration ...)

        It's an entire order of magnitude better. This will change things.

        I'm not going to reveal anymore - because we're jumping ahead of
        the launch here (actually, we jumping ahead of the pre-launch!) but
        make sure you watch the upcoming videos.

        Chris is about to drop a bomb on the internet affiliate marketing industry,
        just like he did back in 2003, when he released the original Google Cash
        system - that revealed how to combine PPC advertising and affiliate
        marketing. He was basically the first to reveal this type of system,
        and he has always been on the cutting edge ... but this software
        will create a massive impact.

        I can't wait!
        Jonathan Paul
        P.S. - Full disclosure - I am associated with the upcoming GCD launch.
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        • Profile picture of the author luboff
          Originally Posted by NewQuestions View Post

          Yes - there is a monthly fee for Google Cash Detective. Some beta users
          received a complimentary membership, to exchange for honest feedback.

          This is the best spy software on the market - full stop.

          Chris has invested over $350,000 into developing the software.
          I don't know many other gurus who have spent that sort of money ...

          In fact - I know of none

          GCD is pretty insane! (Full disclosure - I'm associated with this product)
          The upcoming launch videos will completely "re-define" the way the
          Internet Marketing community thinks about spy tools in general.

          It took me less than 5 minutes to "find and clone" an unbelievably
          profitable, long-term affiliate marketing campaign, created by
          some poor fellow ...

          He (she?) probably ensured months of hard 'trial & error', attempting to
          find the most profitable keywords. Which advertisements got the most
          clicks. How much to pay per click. What position to place advertisements,
          and most important of all- what actual product to promote ...

          And yet - I cloned the entire campaign, from top to bottom in less
          than five minutes. It's instantly profitable. I got it all down on video.

          Like I said ... this software is about to change *everything*.

          No one's affiliate campaigns are safe any more ...

          Even landing page campaigns get ripped to pieces and totally revealed.

          No one is safe. Everyone's successful affiliate marketing secrets are
          about to be unveiled in just weeks ...

          If you have an existing, Google Cash direct linking, or landing page
          orientated campaign (that's making you money right now) ... well,
          it's only a matter of time until you have dozens of competitors.

          The longer you have been making money - the most trouble you're in.

          Google Cash Detective 2 allows customers to peer into the entire PPC
          campaign of literally anyone. Millions of keywords are being tracked.
          Millions and MILLIONS of advertisements. Affiliate links - and dozens
          of other metrics. This software is 100 times more powerful than the
          next most powerful spy tool. (That's not even an exaggeration ...)

          It's an entire order of magnitude better. This will change things.

          I'm not going to reveal anymore - because we're jumping ahead of
          the launch here (actually, we jumping ahead of the pre-launch!) but
          make sure you watch the upcoming videos.

          Chris is about to drop a bomb on the internet affiliate marketing industry,
          just like he did back in 2003, when he released the original Google Cash
          system - that revealed how to combine PPC advertising and affiliate
          marketing. He was basically the first to reveal this type of system,
          and he has always been on the cutting edge ... but this software
          will create a massive impact.

          I can't wait!
          Jonathan Paul
          P.S. - Full disclosure - I am associated with the upcoming GCD launch.
          Should be named Google Cash Theft! Jeez, have you no morality at all? We might as well all pack up now - everyone's soon going to be thieving off everyone else. And it looks as though he's being praised for it - whereas he's just a master thief - teaching all the rest how to be just like him. God help us!
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        • Profile picture of the author Omair.Makda
          wow .. sounds good.. i cant wait to get my hands on it ..
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          • Profile picture of the author 4runner
            Originally Posted by Omair.Makda View Post

            wow .. sounds good.. i cant wait to get my hands on it ..
            Aggh.. forum spambots infiltrating this thread too...

            Anyway, I got an email from GCD about my refund that I requested back on Apr.8th - you probably got it too so I guess we just have to sit tight...

            "Thank you for your email.

            After receiving emails from our customers regarding their refunds. We have found a glitch in the refund process that has caused a delay in the communication between our end and your credit card company. We are working to resolve this issue and will be getting your refund credited to your account as quick as possible.

            We appreciate your patience and apologize"

            On another note, and get ready for the onslaught of promotion for another tool coming soon - I will puke when I start getting emails from the "gurus" who pitched us on GCD2.0 and then they will have the audacity to pitch this next one. I'm actually looking forward to this product, but I'm not looking forward to the plethora of hyping that will inevitably start from all the gurus who are still counting their commission cheques from their GCD promotions.

            Do you really think they give 2 sh*ts that you just spent 2k - and gave them 1k in commissions? Will they even think twice before sending you the promo on this NEXT tool?

            I doubt it.

            Before you buy the next product through a guru's emailed affiliate link, make sure you ask yourself what was the true value they provided to your purchase and did they deserve that commission - or are they just continually pitching you stuff because you bought one thing from them in the past and now they feel it's their God given right to pitch you everything else under the sun because you're on their buyers list...

            something to think about.

            T.
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            • Profile picture of the author AffiliateMax
              Originally Posted by 4-runner View Post

              Before you buy the next product through a guru's emailed affiliate link, make sure you ask yourself what was the true value they provided to your purchase and did they deserve that commission - or are they just continually pitching you stuff because you bought one thing from them in the past and now they feel it's their God given right to pitch you everything else under the sun because you're on their buyers list...

              something to think about.

              T.
              Agreed. Or to quote from an email Perry Marshall sent out to his list yesterday:

              "If my emails are wasting your time, then UNSUBSCRIBE.
              Get off my list and don't let me waste any more of your time.
              Your time is valuable. Treat it like it's worth $1000 an hour
              and someday it will be.

              Same goes with every other email list you're on. Has
              the person given you valuable insights and help in the
              last month? Or has he only constantly pitched you on
              stuff?

              If it's the latter, then unsubscribe. That person is not
              contributing anything to your life."


              Good advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author LB
    If you have an existing, Google Cash direct linking, or landing page
    orientated campaign (that's making you money right now) ... well,
    it's only a matter of time until you have dozens of competitors.
    This is really true no matter what...

    Google has slapped any sort of direct-linking pretty hard and if all you're doing is using a landing page then you're years behind the curve anyway.

    Tools like this will never stop those that are using Adwords to build lists and promote products...and that's where the real money is.

    This is not an attack on GCD, but food for thought about how most people go about trying to make money. Remember, if you steal a campaign because it's flagged by GCD...then someone else can do the same to you.

    If Chris really does have hundreds of thousands invested in this software, then no doubt he had a feature built in that will auto-flag long running campaigns and notify him of them...that's the problem with these types of systems. You never know what is being done with the data.
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      Originally Posted by LB View Post

      Tools like this will never stop those that are using Adwords
      to build lists and promote products...and that's where the
      real money is.
      I agreed 100% ...

      And GCD makes it easier than ever, to identify exactly these types
      of advertisers. You will know which keywords they are advertising under,
      what position their advertisements are in, their entire long-term history
      (both success and failed ads), the actual copy used in their adverts
      (including every variation they ever tried - both good and bad), and
      their keywords, cost per clicks and much, much more ...

      With this information, you can decide to clone their entire strategy,
      and setup your own landing page, to build a similar list. As you would
      know - *most* affiliates that attempt to build a list using Adwords
      simply FAIL - because it's really expensive to grow a list in highly
      competitive industries ...

      And yet GCD points out the exact people doing it .... from thousands
      who are failing - (and who have already failed). You can effortlessly
      move into a brand new niche, and build a mailing list - by cloing the
      exact strategies of proven, long-term advertisers ...

      Simply identifying these people is often near impossible, especially
      across thousands of keywords ... and yet GCD does it in seconds,
      with about 4 mouse clicks. You can start, by cloning the winners!
      (And this allows you to avoid mistakes, and costly trial and error)

      The software is currently monitoring millions of keywords ...

      (And funny enough, thousands and thousands and thousands of
      long-term, super successful direct linking campaigns that prove
      the simple notion that direct linking is FAR FROM DEAD!)[/quote]

      Originally Posted by LB View Post

      If Chris really does have hundreds of thousands invested in this software, then no doubt he had a feature built in that will auto-flag long running campaigns and notify him of them...that's the problem with these types of systems. You never know what is being done with the data.
      I think he got a bargain - even having spent 350k on development. lol

      And *ALL* members have the same ability to flag long-term successful
      campagins, in any niche, for any keyword. Just so you know - there are
      thousands and thousands and thousands of successful long-term
      affiliate marketing campaigns worth cloning ...

      Certainly more than Chris could ever hope to clone ...

      It would take an entire army to flag and clone all of the SUCCESSFUL
      long-term, direct linking campaigns - let alone the successful squeeze
      page, list building campaigns.

      We're talking about the entire PPC industry ...

      Millions of keywords. Millions of advertising campaigns. And, without
      even exaggerating - millions of opportunities to identify and clone
      long-term successful, affiliate marketing campaigns of all types

      I can't wait for the launch. I'm like a giddy school child!
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    • Profile picture of the author Ray Erdmann
      Originally Posted by LB View Post

      Google has slapped any sort of direct-linking pretty hard and if all you're doing is using a landing page then you're years behind the curve anyway.
      Running PPC Web Spy ATM and I still see a TON of Direct Linking going on..

      ..Remember, if you steal a campaign because it's flagged by GCD...then someone else can do the same to you...
      True..but how you convert that traffic will have a greater impact on YOUR bottom line...copy my ads all you want, but if you can't convert the click you got instead of me...then does it really matter who copied who? I don't think so and that's where I see the 'winners' breaking away from the 'wanna-bees'.

      Then again, this is just my opinion on the matter anyway...we'll see though once GDC comes out and we start getting some initial feedback from the users of the software and whether or not it works.


      Ray

      EDIT: I'd like to know how this software stacks up against PPC Classroom 2...
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  • Profile picture of the author LB
    My point was that you can never "clone" someone building a list via Adwords with a simple tool.

    I have an autoresponder loaded with 2 years worth of messages, affiliate promos and promos for my own products running under some of my Adwords ads. THAT is how you negate the competition.

    In addition, quality score makes the issue clouded even further. I have the position I do on some keywords because of my CTR, account history, keywords history etc. Google also looks at the way your ad groups are set up as well...GCD can't see that.

    You could clone my exact ad and Google would say, "sorry, poor quality score" while for me it's great because of my history and positive account history and the way I've structured my ad groups and keyword groups.

    As you know, two ads right next to each other may vary in price wildly thanks to quality score.

    As you said, you're involved with the product so obviously you view it favorably. My point was simply that the "easy pickins" out there are short-lived anyway.

    I think very very few people have the mindset to capitalize on tools like GCD, most people are just chasing the next big thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      I agree with all of your points

      Yes - cloning sophisticated campaigns like the one you describe is not easy.
      That's why I prefer to clone simple, successful campains using GCD. There
      are over 66,000 according to my recent search results. It only took me
      about 5 minutes to find them all, using a single wildcard search.

      Chris has some stunning videos coming out soon. I hope he has a sweet
      offer for Warriors. That would be awesome
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        • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
          I have personally found hundreds of thousands of long-term successful
          affiliate marketing campaigns. There are literally millions of advertisements
          in Adwords. GCD is watching over 20 million Ad combinations right now,
          and that number is growing exponentially each week ...

          What most people fail to realize is ... the "Internet Marketing" community
          is unbelievably small. The people who represent the cutting edge of this
          technology, are small in number. And, the people make a "full-time living"
          promoting affiliate programs - are even smaller in number ...

          There is simply no way that we could all "clone each other's campaigns".
          There are hundreds of millions of successful Adwords combinations.

          It is not a "lose-lose" situation either ...

          If you start by cloning a successful campaign - you *can* improve it.
          GCD allows you to leap-frog most of the "trial and error" and mistakes.

          By cloning successful, long-term campaigns, you start at a point that
          takes other affiliates months to arrive at ... and as a result, your bid
          prices will be lower - and will continue to drop ...

          It is also important to note - that very limited people will have access
          to GCD. This is a high ticket item. It offers insight into the entire PPC
          industry that is unrivaled. There is simply no other software that is
          even close to Google Cash Detective. It is very comprehensive ...

          The way I see it ... this is like WordTracker on steroids. Millions and
          millions of keywords. Millions of ads. Four months of historical data.

          The ability to find successful "long-term" affiliate marketing campaigns
          in just seconds - across thousands of different niche industries. This
          is a complete game changer ...

          Transparency and serious competitor analysis has "arrived" in PPC.







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            • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
              The "scarcity" idea is actually defined by the needs of the software.

              It's not so much the software and hardware - but more the "demands"'
              placed on the Google search engine, backend APIs and stuff. There will
              certainly be "limited" memberships - and not simply because scarcity
              boosts conversion rates.

              It's a heavy, complicated system - but it needs to run lightning fast.
              (And it does) - Think of Wordtracker, or Aweber etc. These top-tier
              services run really fast, even though they're quite complicated ...

              The GCD software exists in a cloud computing server environment, and
              up-scales very easily, but it's not so easy to put more and more demands
              on Google. After all - the software is investigating millions of keywords on
              a daily basis ...

              (And just in case anyone is worried - "No", this is not an issue.
              We have arrangements in place to make sure this is appropriate)

              I think most people in the Internet Marketing world, are a little skeptical
              about so called scarcity. But, there will certainly be limits to the amount
              of members we take in over the next few months ...

              Also - just so you know ... we have video training, conference calls and
              an active help desk and forum. Our main priority is looking after members.
              Growing too quickly would be very dangerous. In part - that is what made
              our previous launch "difficult" ...

              $350,000 and 16 months later - things have been updated quite a lot.

              This is the start of a brand new top-tier service. It's not a "fly by night"
              operation - or a grab for cash. Just wait until you see the sort of money
              Chris is making with "old Skool" direct linking. lol

              The video proof is going to knock down the haters. Direct linking never
              died. The original Google Cash method is even more profitable than ever,
              no matter what the so called "Experts" tell you ...

              How do I know?

              Well - let's just say I am using GCD - a piece of software that shows me
              hundreds of thousands of direct linking campaigns, that have been running
              for over 4 months. All their keywords. Their ad copy. Their positions. Their
              cost per clicks. Their direct linking affiliate links. Their competitors, and the
              overall profitability of each campaign.

              (And, my GCD membership is the same as everyone else)

              There are no "super accounts or anything like that. Everyone has the
              same access to ALL the data. There is simply too much opportunity to
              restrict the data. There would be no point really. GCD represents the
              entire Adwords market place. It offers stunning information that can
              often contradict the so-called gurus.

              It's not just a claim. The Google Cash Detective will prove to the world,
              that direct linking is still alive and active - and used by tens of thousands
              of affiliates (right now). Quality Score issues are not as divisive as many
              people think. The raw data shows this plainly ...

              And - as I noted above ... it's not just about direct linking. GCD also shows
              you the landing page campaigns being run by hundreds of thousands of
              webmasters in different niches. You can even watch slide-shows! Apple
              cover-flow style - to get a feel for an industry, or a keyword ...

              By identifying the successful landing page campaigns, you can clone them.
              And - there are skeptics that say "No you can't" ... well ... yes you can.

              In fact, I foresee an explosion in outsourcing as a result of the GCD launch.

              After all, how difficult is it to clone a landing page design, if you know
              which keywords the advertiser is bidding on. How much they pay. What
              position their ads are in. The actual words (and every variation) of Ads
              they ever ran over the last 4 months. Their success rates and those of
              their competitors. The keyword volume per day and much, much more ...

              It's basically like "spying" into their actual Adwords campaign - except,
              you have EVEN MORE information at your disposal, because it like looking
              into *everyone's* Adwords campaigns in a particular niche ...

              Chris and I have already cloned 5 "long-term" successful landing page
              campaigns, along with dozens of direct linking campaigns. It's easy.

              No. Really. It's unbelievable easy ...

              And - there are literally hundreds of thousands of campaigns in niches
              we have never even considered. I love throwing random keywords into
              the software, just to see who is killing it in the Adwords market place ...

              I just can't wait until it launches. It's going to spawn SO MANY different
              ebooks, courses, training systems and such ...

              Kind of like what happened when Chris released the original Google Cash
              strategies back in 2003. He was certainly one of the first in the world to
              offer up his secrets ... and since then, his core advice has been copied
              by hundreds of direct competitors ...

              PPC is about to become a cloning "free for all". Originality is over-rated!
              (especially when you can lose HUGE money through PPC trial and error)


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          • Profile picture of the author bidmarket
            we get google cash not google cash detective if we are members of ppc classroom. it is there already under partner bonuses.
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      • Profile picture of the author mott
        Originally Posted by NewQuestions View Post

        Yes - cloning sophisticated campaigns like the one you describe is not easy.
        That's why I prefer to clone simple, successful campains using GCD. There
        are over 66,000 according to my recent search results. It only took me
        about 5 minutes to find them all, using a single wildcard search.
        Jonathan thanks for your posts about this product, they are quite informative. I have a couple of questions. You mentioned the product is perfect for beginners; does it tell how to do a search like you described (to find simple campaigns), and does it teach how to properly "clone" campaigns?

        Thank you.
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    • Profile picture of the author MajorK
      The cool thing about this product so far is that it does not do the same thing on MSN or Yahoo. So you are still able to fly under the radar there. Plus there are other ways to hide what you are doing from software like this.
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      • Profile picture of the author apa101
        Originally Posted by MajorK View Post

        The cool thing about this product so far is that it does not do the same thing on MSN or Yahoo. So you are still able to fly under the radar there. Plus there are other ways to hide what you are doing from software like this.
        Not here to promote or brag about but just to inform you about GCD2.. The feature to crawl MSN & Yahoo Engines is going to come up soon! Most probably in next 3-4 months.

        Chris is working upon it with his coders. Just waiting for the launch and response yet to move ahead and start that up tooo!!
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  • Profile picture of the author onefreekiwinz
    Use Matt Cullens KeyWordSpy...
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      KeyWordSpy allows "professional" members
      (the highest level of membership) to monitor
      500 keywords per month (for $139!/month!) ...

      Google Cash Detective allows you to monitor an unlimited amount.
      (Which is just perfect when you find an advertiser who has 10,000+
      keywords. You can monitor them all. Try doing that with Keywordspy!)

      There is simply no software that is even in the "same league" as GCD ...

      J.
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      • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
        Sorry - at this stage, I cannot give out pricing details ...

        They are not finalised, and that's not my call at all. My role is
        more in technical support and public relations etc.

        However, I do know it has a lower monthly fee than KeywordSpy
        and most other comparable tools. The pricing strategy is actually
        a balance between the "resources used" and the opportunity.

        This might sound a little whacky ... but the software becomes more
        powerful as more and more people use it. It also becomes more powerful
        over time, as the historical data continues to accumulate. You can dump
        your own keywords into the system as well ... so it continues growing ...

        And - just in case you're worried ...

        No - nobody is going to "steal" your well-researched keywords. In fact,
        they are most likely already in the system. There are millions and millions
        of keywords in the system already. We want customers to dump all of
        their keywords into the system ... because it offers the best view
        of *every* PPC niche industry.

        (And like I said above - there are millions of affiliate marketing opporunties.
        This entire concept will NEVER be saturated. And the owner cannot take
        advantage of the raw data any more than an average user. There is far
        too much opportunity here, for any one person to "hoard" ...)

        Price will be kept lower than competitors to attract new customers,
        and also new content/keywords - but also high enough to maintain
        stability and speed etc. It's not strictly a "money grab" pricing strategy.

        I do know one thing though ... and this might also sound a little cliche.

        The price is going to go up. Not down. As more data is accumulated,
        the gulf between GCD and its spy competitors widens by the hour ...

        It's not an idle threat either. Chris has plans to make this software
        an industry staple. There are companies that spend hundreds of
        thousands of dollars, each and every month on Pay Per Click advertising.

        These types of people are VERY interested in competitor analysis,
        and $100 a month is a bit of a joke to them to be honest. In fact,
        we considered pricing the system at around $10,000 a month.

        It's worth it ... if you save that much money, or MAKE that much money
        as a result of the data. Believe me ... there are loads of companies in this
        situation ...

        We're just lucky Chris is a PPC affiliate like most of us. His stats are
        stunning. Just mind blowing, and now he reveals his secret tool. lol



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        • Profile picture of the author curiousguy
          Please let me know,does it contain any tutorial about PPC and do you recommend the system for newbie?
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          • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
            Yes ... the Google Cash Detective is basically perfect for beginners.

            The team has spent a LOT of time developing videos, and all customers
            receive a free copy of the brand new Google Cash 4 Home Study Course.

            This is the premier PPC and Affiliate Marketing course. It has stood the
            test of time, and has been around since 2003. This is the 4th edition ...

            The current beta testers are very excited (and satisfied) with the training
            videos, and we are developing an environment of profit ... sounds cool right?

            The JVs are sending out info some time tonight or tomorrow ...


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            • Profile picture of the author assoc
              Hi
              If Im already a GCD member will I still keep getting the same use as I do now or will
              I have to upgrade
              Thanks
              Brian
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    • Profile picture of the author lassitermarketing
      Originally Posted by onefreekiwinz View Post

      Use Matt Cullens KeyWordSpy...
      His data is 30 days behind...
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  • Profile picture of the author chatdam
    google cash = google adword technic yes or no.
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    • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
      I'm a beta tester, supposed to be getting one to one support, this is not the case i have more questions than answers, support atre VERY slow, and zero one on one, never recieved google cash 4 either!!! bit annoyed i had such high hopes to !!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
    I just saw the two first videos (about 30m each) and I admit my jaw dropped, it looks so damn amazing - it seemingly takes out all the guesswork out of it. In fact, I've never seen such a product. Looks the closest to an automatic money machine possible.

    That's why I came here, to see comments on it. I hope more beta testers comment for the forum. checkmuldoon's experience looks a far too common one these days - amazing launch campaigns followed by zero customer support once you're in.


    And NewQuestions is biased like he said himself. He basically repeats what we see in the ads and videos. So I'm sceptical, but if it does what it says, it's simply amazing. I want to know the price that's for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Deegan
    I just saw the videos my self..interesting stuff indeed...however the fact that it has a database with all those direct linking campaigns is a turn off for me...Your going to have a bunch of people looking at the same information/data set...kind of kills the point.

    Personally, anything related to spying I want to be kept private and seen by my eyes only...Right now my favorite spy tool is ppc kahuna. I got in on the beta and its turns out to be pretty bad ass. There is alot of aspects to the system (a tool that works like speed PPC, a landing page generator thats like LPgen, A bunch of training videos and PDF's on how to use the tools for PPC and SEO, ect) but the core element is a desktop tool that allows you to pretty much do what all these spy tools do just privately on your own computer. The downside is you your using your own computer resources and your building your own database, but over all it's much more flexible and safer IMO.

    You can add custom detection strings to pretty much catch a direct link from any affiliate network. It comes pre loaded with something like 20 networks already..You can also get creative and have it look for tracking ids/codes to catch smart affiliates who are not direct linking but using landing pages. The fact they use tracking URLs shows they know what they are doing...

    I also hear they any day now they will be adding the ability to track not just PPC ads on google, but on yahoo and msn...should be freaking killer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
    That PPC Kahuna looks like the bomb too. But going back to "all have access to the database", wouldn't Chad and his crew be shooting themselves in the foot by sharing this if that were true?

    While there may be millions of affiliate offers out there, the winners make up a pretty low number, probably below 10 000, if that. So we compete for those. Still, that's a lot. And his database is supposed to contain lots of other networks besides the overused clickbank.

    I hope we get more feedback from Beta testers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr BOLD
    a little out of box thinking is required when you use a program like gcdetective. even if there are only 10,000 affiliate offers that are winners the keyword database holds like 2 million keywords.

    For the same keyword there can be 100 different affiliates direct linking 100 different offers. So there is no real threat like 1000 people having access to gcdetective is going to saturate the market.
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  • Profile picture of the author namlu501
    Hi!

    Does the huge keyword list handled by GCD include languages besides english?

    Damien
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  • Profile picture of the author jon poland
    I have a question for NewQuestions or anyone else who can help me out.

    I watched the videos last night and I am very impressed with GC Detective. However, there is one strategy that Chris employed that has me a bit confused. I am hoping you can provide a little clarity for me.

    Chris was doing a direct linking campaign with a keyword that gets over 1 million searches a month. But the display url and the destination url did not match one another.

    The destination url was his clickbank hop link that takes you to the sales page at reversephonedetective.com and his display url was reversephonedetective-free.com. Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Google kill campaigns that use this tactic?

    I know that Chris did not want to use "reversephonedetective.com" as the display url because another marketer was using this and he did not want to get into a bidding war. But my question is: how does he get by using "reversephonedetective-free.com" when the visitor lands on reversephonedetective.com?

    Also, when you go to in reversephonedetective-free.com you can see that it is not a viable domain. Chris simply used it as a "Display" url for his campaign.

    Thanks.

    Jon
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
    Good question Jon. I was thinking the same thing but didn't try to go to his website like you did.
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    • Profile picture of the author tedam
      Good String & Good Posts.

      I watched the GCD videos yesterday and was awestruck. My first exposure to Chris who strikes me as a very solid/honest guy. And the product looks amazing. But here are my questions for SEO Steve or anyone else who can help...

      Spyfu allows you to get key word history and ads (going back over a year for millions of key words) though it doesn't have some of the stats GCD displays nor can you do wild card searches (I don't think) How is SpyFu different (better or worse) than Key Word Tracker?

      Also I agree that key word tracking is essential. I've been using Stats Junky beta for couple of weeks and it seems to be pretty powerful. Any idea how it compares to XTreme Conversions or Affilliate Prophet?

      Though it looks like GCD will be a game changer, I hope it doesn't change the game too fast. At least not so fast that I can't catch up! Still getting my feet wet in this PPC Game.

      Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on the above questions...
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    • Profile picture of the author jgand
      Good to see that people have experience with this and this is something to keep an eye on.

      It seems like the whole program is subject to abuse and easily taken advantage of. Sounds as if there are a lot of problems. Thanks for the info.
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    • Profile picture of the author snowjunior
      Hi guys,

      I was on the beta testing for GCD, and am still a cust there (was the 'raving mate' posted by my good friend SEOSteve - thanks for that buddy )

      Anyway, heres my 'insider' view so far..

      I bought the program because i'm getting into the PPC game and could not find a spy tool that searched already 'up & running' ads rather than plunk in the kw's and monitor over a week or two.

      So that was one point i bought it for.

      The other was the ease of use to spy on other campaigns and simply clone them.

      Like others have said before, this is simply a tool. It may or may NOT make you money, depending on your actions.

      Chris has uploaded a stack of training videos since the launch, but i have to admit the real guts of the program has yet to be realised. People in the insider forums are itching to get into the game and there is a bit of whinging going on to get everything going (fair enough too).

      I think it is a step up from PPC Classroom imho, because it has the tools there, and it not just a training tool.

      On the negative side, i tested out GCD with one of my failing campaigns, and lo-and-behold, it shows my ads running up consistantly and at good profitability which someone else would have seen as something worth cloning. So that is something to be careful of with this tool.

      The other thing is i have yet to make any money with this tool, BUT having said that i haven't taken enough action either because i'm still learning tracking techniques before i start throwing money on the table using PPC with this tool. Also, the GCD method has some pretty scary techniques for newbies who are hesitant about the google ppc monster...

      There is no doubt in my mind however that this program is worth the money.

      It is NOT

      a) get rich quick
      b) the Holy Grail

      It is simply an awesome tool for HELPING find the best offers, ads, and landing pages in any given market.

      Hope this helps anyone sitting on the fence.. Any further questions feel free to PM me.

      Cheers!
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    • Profile picture of the author MH Vishal
      Hey,
      There has been 100 beta tester of the GCD2 and from what I've seen there are many success stories.We personally use the software and even though we're in the early days we have been able to identify profitable compaigns and swipe them for own benefits.It really is too easy
      Thanks,
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      • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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        Originally Posted by MH Vishal View Post

        Hey,
        There has been 100 beta tester of the GCD2 and from what I've seen there are many success stories.We personally use the software and even though we're in the early days we have been able to identify profitable compaigns and swipe them for own benefits.It really is too easy
        Thanks,
        Show me the money. Show me the hard proof - and not some doctored Clickbank screenshots either. I don't see many "success stories" and I really have my doubts.

        Here's the javascript if you want to know how to do it campers. Open the Clickbank (or PayPal or whatever) earnings page. Paste the script into your browser and hey presto! Overnight millionaire LOL.

        Uh hang on. Not sure I'm allowed to put javascript here. Just Google "YahooCash4CompleteIdiots" and you'll find the script under "Do you really believe those Clickbank earnings screenshots?"
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    • Profile picture of the author verj0014
      Originally Posted by jrise View Post

      What he did was DOMAIN FORWARDING AND MASKING.
      Very simple and I have done it all the time and Google never Bitch slapped me for it.

      I always go to godaddy.com and buy a domain that has something of my main keyword in it. Then I go to my domain manager and click on the forward tab. There I copy and paste my affiliate link. then I click on 301. Then I go to the masking tab and click on masking enable and I write a masking title.

      Then I wait 5 minutes so that godaddy can set everything up.
      What I then do is go to adwords and I fill in both the destination and display url the same domain that I have forwarded with Godaddy.

      Easy as 1,2 3 and now you dont have to go on a bidding war with someone and you are still direct linking. Something I learned from Michael Macks or whatever his name is

      Sorry for my sometimes broken english

      I saluut
      what is google cash detective btw?
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      • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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        Originally Posted by verj0014 View Post

        what is google cash detective btw?
        Mate, when you want to know something or find out some information on something, just use Google Search. To do a Broad Search - that is - any result containing those words in any order, Enter - Google Cash Detective into the search bar.

        For a search of the phrase - put your query in inverted commas like this -"Google Cash Detective".

        If you want an EXACT search (as you've written it) enter it with square brackets like this [Google Cash Detective] .

        The last will usually give you the least results but will be more targeted. But in this case I got 406,000 results for a Broad Search. 97,700 results for a "Phrase Search" and 98,600 results for an [exact Search]. The results were off because of the word "Google".

        That technique is also a good way of searching for niche keywords. First do a Broad Search and note the number of results. Then do a "Phrase" and an [Exact] search and note the numbers. If you get a big disparity - like 100,000 results for Broad and only 6,000 results for "Phrase" it usually means there's not a lot of competition for those keywords. Conversely if the Broad and Phrase searches are about the same number of results - there's a lot of competition - a lot of people optimizing or competing for those keywords.

        Hope that helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author lakatos
      you can clone the ads and keywords, but unless you landing page have similar quality score that matches the original , the results will be very different right ?.. if the one you are cloning is running the campaign for a long time, his history will also give a good quality score that a new commer trying to clone will not match ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Craig Dawber
      I joined GCD but I had to leave as I was laid off from work.

      I was gutted as I could see that this would without a doubt give me the ability to make money.

      GUTTED I SAY!

      If you have the chance jump on this.
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    • Profile picture of the author etreet
      anybody wanna share the GCD+GCA with me? I bough it in $1997,but I use it sometime but not all the time,i feel it 's a waste,I would like to share with somebody who is strongly wanna use this powerful tool! (IT's SO Powerful) if you are interested in sharing(half price) and you are also living in vancouver,canada ,please contact me. attilakhan@msn.com
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      • Profile picture of the author themarketingdirt
        I checked with the bank today and confirmed it twice. NO refund even after waiting for 11 days ever though I asked for it within a 30 day guarantee period.

        This isn't about whether the software works or not anymore, but a matter of honest business ethnics. You state a 30 day guarantee, you either honor it or it's fraud. Hopefully I'm wrong. I'm trying to contact Chris to get my money back without filing a charge-back. Can anyone provide me a working phone number where I can call his company directly?
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    • Profile picture of the author helenback
      I have been looking at gcd, but for now decided to buy affiliate prophit as recomended. the trouble is it looks really complicated. I know this is off topic but I want to do direct linking because I have just spent almost 2 months doing my first campaign of landing page and god knows how long working out this php code, found out my program dosnt support it.
      direct linking is the way I want to go. I got affiliate prophit because I thought it was the only way to do direct linking without google penalising you.
      I also read after I bought the program that you can only cloak 3 domains.
      also I know I need to have a domain name but do I still have to have a website ieven if I am direct linking, as I dont understand why I would need a server.
      please can some one explain to me in laymans terms,
      thankyou
      helen
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      • Profile picture of the author snapper
        Hi Helen,

        How do you intend hosting your landing page?

        Also I believe with affiliate prophet you will need a domain name and hosting to implement the aff. spy campaign which allows you to direct link to another page . Affiliate prophet needs to be loaded onto your hosting server and as I understand it (very laymans terms) your links are directed through Affiliate Prophet that is located on your server.

        The 3 domains is not really a problem because you can direct all your clicks through Affilate Prophet that is located on that server. For example you can have Affiliate Prophet set up on your dogtraining dot com site but direct other domains on the same host through this site, such as snowskis dot com. In the bar at the bottom dogtraining dot com will briefly show up when a link on skowskis is clicked but for the untrained eye they will not realize what has happened.

        Your stats for snowskis will be recorded in the appropiate folder that you have set up on dogtraining. I probably have not explained it very well but AP set up on 3 domains is not really a problem.

        So I think you will need hosting if you are going to go with Affilate Prophet.

        You can redirect a domain name at some hosting providers but I don't know how 'black hat' that is and it is not something that I would try.

        You can always just direct link through adwords, kinda like what gcd shows you in the pre-launch videos but you wait in the queue for your ads to be shown if there are more than 1 advertiser direct linking to the same site as Goog will only show 1 ad per site at a time...supposedly.

        Originally Posted by helenback View Post

        I have been looking at gcd, but for now decided to buy affiliate prophit as recomended. the trouble is it looks really complicated. I know this is off topic but I want to do direct linking because I have just spent almost 2 months doing my first campaign of landing page and god knows how long working out this php code, found out my program dosnt support it.
        direct linking is the way I want to go. I got affiliate prophit because I thought it was the only way to do direct linking without google penalising you.
        I also read after I bought the program that you can only cloak 3 domains.
        also I know I need to have a domain name but do I still have to have a website ieven if I am direct linking, as I dont understand why I would need a server.
        please can some one explain to me in laymans terms,
        thankyou
        helen
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Deegan
    In regard to the url question, alot of people know/knew about it..but the majority did not know..There was a way that you could set a different url on the keyword level...so while you had the same url for your destination and display url when you created your actual ads..you could go in and edit the actual keyword information and give a different url for the keyword...It was a loophole in how goolge handled it's data.

    That's how Chris got around the double serving rule...he could still direct link but display his own url...I dont think this works any more...or will be killed very soon...Google talked about it recently...so unless you want to get into a bidding war on a direct linking campaign your going to be shit out of luck...

    This is why I'm not to big on the idea of having a shared data base that all users can see...and query. By using the wild card as he showed in the video you and everyone else will be able to pull up all direct linking data...bah..lol. that will be fun.

    I'll stick with the competition and spy data that only I have access to on my own computer...it takes more time and resources but is much more effective long term...
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOSteve
    Hi,

    GCD is a pretty awesome tool - but just a tool. Great for niche research and campaign planning - a way to see what is already working for someone and "copy the best" as they say. If this is an area you are struggling in then GCD is worth a look.

    A mate of mine is one of the beta testers and he is completely in love with Google Cash Detective. We are comparing it against Keyword Spy and the main benefits for GCD seem to be:
    * data is updated daily
    * The "slide show" feature that displays landing pages etc. for all ads for a keyword in a very sexy "flip book" style (very "iPhone" app style)

    My mate uses the "flip book" feature to help get a feel for the niche if it's not something he's familiar with - see what sort of bonuses people are offering too.

    The wildcard searching is killer (though you can do this in Keyword Spy too).

    So GCD is a tool that will help ensure you target profitable niches with proven keywords that convert. (Or at least keywords someone has been willing to consistently spend money on!). It will save you investing time and money "trying out" campaigns.

    I would certainly suggest pairing it up with a good conversion tracking tool like Xtreme Conversions or Affiliate Prophet. (There may be others - XC is my personal favorite!) This would help ensure you ditch any non-converting keywords.

    Hope this helps.

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author MIB Mastermind
    Will this GCD be similar to keyword elite? Or is it better?
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  • Profile picture of the author baronig
    how much it will be sold?
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    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      That's how Chris got around the double serving rule...he could still direct link but display his own url...I dont think this works any more...or will be killed very soon...Google talked about it recently...so unless you want to get into a bidding war on a direct linking campaign your going to be shit out of luck...
      Yeah the video really downplays the No Direct Linking issue as a myth, by simply saying - see the 100's of others doing it? From the little I know and the little ive read about this - WTF if google shuts down your AdWords account for direct linking too often? You can only say Oooops Sorry Im a newbie so many times. Is this a real or non issue? After that ...

      Additionally, the "See ... this is a for sure winner - profitable campaign - see theyve had it running for 56 of 97 days" Its profitable because why? Chris says so? Some dude is still willing to chase $ on it? There was an insurance example in there for AIG Direct ... looky there a For Sure winner $1000 a day campaign - search volume and length of time an advertiser was willing to spend. $10 a click! BTW, AIG is in deep sheeeeite - not sure Id due an ad spend on pimping their products [ and Im in the biz and sell a ton o' their stuff {in the past} - cant give it away these days ]

      Chris has obviously spent plenty of time with Frank Kern

      Seems if you could get clear resolute answers to the two things above and Im sure there are far more ... youd have a damn good tool there.

      Would love to hear more thoughts from people in this game full time.

      I know JACK on PPC/CPA etc...
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      • Profile picture of the author baronig
        4morereferrals thanks for opening my eyes.I knew something was not right when I was watching the videos.the keywords he is saying is a hanging fruit profitable running 100/100 days and yet when I did Google search no one was advertising for that keyword ,fishy.
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      • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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        I bought GoogleCashDetective - mainly on the strength of the pre-launch videos. Carpenter seemed to be a straight shooter (Even though he was recommended by Frank Kern).

        The launch was a nightmare. Couldn't log-in for two days. And then it just got worse. It's absolutely OUTRAGEOUS the way GCD are treating their clients. If you opt for the payment plan (like 67% of us according to Chris Carpenter) it ends up costing you AT LEAST $2600 over the year. So for that kind of money you would expect pretty good service. Not the case here. The so-called "Support" sucks. Tickets go unanswered for days and days and days. They are not even answering the comments on the vids (here's looking at you Jonathon Paul) - how hard can it be to get a drone to at least reply to comments??? There is no blog - just a webpage. No Forum - just excuses about how they are building the world's greatest one. And what's this with "server problems"? Why didn't they get hosted with Peer1 out of New York for instance - handles PlentyofFish dating site's huge load very well.
        As for "Contact" - very hard to find anyway - it's a broken link. Yes...the "Contact" is a broken link. Lesson One - make sure the Contact is easy to find and works.
        Meanwhile CC waffles on about wanting to "help people", "tight-knit community" and "build a long-term relationship" - all the rest of the B/S.

        And don't get me started with the tool and the Direct-Linking method. As others have pointed out here, unless you're in good standing with Adwords you're going to get burned. You're not going to get .05 clicks - Google are going to shaft you all the way. Sad for all the dreamers who think they can just throw $200 at an Adwords campaign and make a killing by "cloning other peoples successful campaigns" - straight out misrepresentation. I'd say 99.9% of GoogleCashDetective users are going to get burned. You don't learn this stuff overnight.

        I've been using the tool for days. It's nothing out of the box. It's fun but really just an expensive toy. You can't expect to just nick someone elses keywords and ads and suddenly be rolling in dough. There's much more to the equation than that.

        What else? The bonuses suck - it's stuff that's been floating around for years. Some of the videos are quite good - Jonathon Paul's stuff - but mostly its basic newbie info. The webinars are just plain annoying. What about some PDFs for those of us that still like to read? Other stuff promised isn't there. Just more promises. You go around and around the site looking for stuff that just isn't there.

        Carpenter says "you get a 30 day guarantee - if you're unhappy for any reason just email me and I'll refund your money". Yeah yeah. But where is the email addy huh? Where is the "Contact"? Where is the frigging "Support"? They are probably all out the back counting the money they've made (up to $900 in Affiliate Commissions) from suckers like me.

        Jonathon Paul, I'm sorry mate but your excuses are pissweak. It takes 2 minutes or less to log-in to your site and make sure that at least the "Contact" link is working and another 5-10 minutes to AT LEAST post a couple of comments rather than leaving us in the lurch. Your name's associated with this disaster. Think about that.

        As you can see, I'm ropeable about this. Does Chris Carpenter even care about his online reputation? FTC here I come. He'll be joining Frank Kern in the Sin Bin (Google "Frank Kern Conman" to read about his run-in with the FTC).

        Oh yeah...nearly forgot...today Chris Carpenter emails me to say how sorry he is for all the stuff-ups...yada yada yada and to make up for it he's giving me a week's accommodation in his surf-camp/yoga retreat. Yeah right. No - I jest - he's kindly offered a week free of billing. Whoopee-doo huh? NOT GOOD ENOUGH (as we say in Australia). The whole thing has left a very bad taste in my mouth. I knew there were bandits in Mexico but I didn't expect this.
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        • Profile picture of the author darksky
          Reading through this thread, I'm amazed by some of the whining.

          GCD is working. And it's working extremely well.

          I was able to log-in immediately on DAY 1. Then, yes, there WAS some down time, especially the first few days, but nothing I couldn't work around, and things have been flying (at least for me) since they added more servers. I'm talking lightning fast on my MAC, and I'm having zero problems accessing it now.

          I'm experienced with PPC ... and I've still learned some cool stuff from the training. In fact, Jonthan Paul's videos have been particularly good.

          Is it magic? No. If you run out and start using it without carefully going through the training, or without THINKING before you launch a campaign, you could easily lose money. If you do everything right - there's still risk you could lose on a given campaign, but it sure puts the odds in your favor (in my opinion).

          This - like any other tool - must be applied thoughtfully. That said, the intel it feeds you is quite eye-opening.

          I think Chris has done a phenomenal job, all things considered, and the initial bumps have really smoothed out. I have not used the support ticket system at all, however, so can't speak to that.

          I will say this: I'm very glad I bought GCD.
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      • Profile picture of the author WPExpert
        Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

        Would love to hear more thoughts from people in this game full time.
        I tried GCD for about 6 weeks and then gave up and got a refund. The software was buggy, the support very poor and the results were not what was promised (why am I surprised?). Chris is a great marketer though. He just needs to learn not to promise what he can't deliver and he'll keep more of the cash, and so will his affiliates.
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        • Profile picture of the author Yuma
          I'm in the process of getting a refund (inc. all the upsells that were peddled).
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  • Profile picture of the author pgreenwo
    Looking at the GCD videos, there appears to be a deficiency...if the database has collected all that data, then why not just create a report of the highest search volume keywords with consistently displayed affiliate direct link ads...and then work down from the top of the list constructing your direct link campaigns?

    If you don't care what you're an affiliate for, then this would be THE KEY search result - and one they can surely do at GCD...they have all the data - it appears on the screen - and it's just a quick report to write!

    But it doesn't appear to be built into the software! So while the customer is left guessing and browsing for the good opportunities - and with 2.5 million keywords that doesn't produce a huge competitive problem - but the vendor? Well they can go straight to the answers!

    So the punter pays for the development costs, and the vendor gets to cherry pick the opportunities! Nice!

    Even so, it looks like it would speed up niche research...dramatically!
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    The videos are cool.

    But I haven't heard one beta tester say they made money with it.

    I tested each campaign from his videos exactly as he laid them out.
    I'm not a rookie.

    Not one made money.

    Who cares that you can search campaigns in 5 minutes if it doesn't make money.
    Who cares that it's following millions of keywords if it doesn't make money.

    I want to hear dollars and cents from a beta tester.
    I don't want to hear the hype.
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    • Profile picture of the author cms418
      I did the same as you and tested the reverse phone detective. So far I have had many clicks as he did but made $0. What the heck am I doing wrong?
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    • Profile picture of the author mott
      Originally Posted by vince8151 View Post

      The videos are cool.

      But I haven't heard one beta tester say they made money with it.

      I tested each campaign from his videos exactly as he laid them out.
      I'm not a rookie.

      Not one made money.

      Who cares that you can search campaigns in 5 minutes if it doesn't make money.
      Who cares that it's following millions of keywords if it doesn't make money.

      I want to hear dollars and cents from a beta tester.
      I don't want to hear the hype.

      Good point Vince. Chris said in his last email that the system would make money in 10 minutes, that "This technique works 100% of the time." and "I have a 100% success rate."

      Well then the beta testers should also have the same results...WHERE ARE THEY?

      I also love the videos and would seriously consider purchasing this product. But show me the money first.
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  • Profile picture of the author darksky
    It does sound very intriguing, but gotta agree:

    Let's here some earning stats from a couple of beta testers,
    instead of all the hype.

    I was about to move to PPC Bully... guess I'll wait.
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    Btw, I did what he said manually in the pre launch videos and I made money. I made around $215 with the reverse phone detective and only spend $65 on ppc. Manually guys in 3 days! Do you know how much I will be making if I had the software and could clone like 20 campaigns per week and would set a budget of $500 a day? That would be a nice and juicy 30 or 40K per month. I mean.. thats just awsome, hello? anybody there? I said awsome oke! Well, this train is going to leave so you better decide if you want to hop on.

    Impossible. No way could you gross $215 with an adspend of $65 on the keyword Reverse Phone Search in 3 days. Absolutely impossible.
    To get the ppc down that low you need a 4 page landing page and longer then 3 days. If you would have left out the 3 days, I might have believed you.

    Do you even know how much cash you need with a budget of $500 per day?

    Again, the software looks good, but you're not going to get anyone to buy with this crap.

    And anyone in the world can be an affiliate/partner with GCD.

    One more time. Any beta testers out there with results and no BS?
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  • Profile picture of the author ben565
    Originally Posted by jrise View Post

    Btw, I did what he said manually in the pre launch videos and I made money. I made around $215 with the reverse phone detective and only spend $65 on ppc. Manually guys in 3 days! Do you know how much I will be making if I had the software and could clone like 20 campaigns per week and would set a budget of $500 a day? That would be a nice and juicy 30 or 40K per month. I mean.. thats just awsome, hello? anybody there? I said awsome oke! Well, this train is going to leave so you better decide if you want to hop on.

    Peace

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    I set up the same campaign in the rev phone niche with the same keyword,ctr,ad position and direct linked and after 152 clicks i have had only 1 sale and yet chris was converting at 1:15, how come such a huge difference as i was duplicating his campaign exactly?
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    • Profile picture of the author mott
      Originally Posted by ben565 View Post

      I set up the same campaign in the rev phone niche with the same keyword,ctr,ad position and direct linked and after 152 clicks i have had only 1 sale and yet chris was converting at 1:15, how come such a huge difference as i was duplicating his campaign exactly?
      Maybe you have to buy the system to find out? How much did you spend to get your clicks?
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      • Profile picture of the author ben565
        Originally Posted by mott View Post

        Maybe you have to buy the system to find out? How much did you spend to get your clicks?
        chris actually logs into the system and shows us how to set up a direct linking campaign with the rev detective niche and shows us his results after 84 clicks = 6 sales, I set up a the same campaign so that everything was the same as chris's campaign and yet after 84 clicks i had 1 sale?

        this system is supposed to be 100% profitable according to him,obviously it is not,

        btw i started at $1.50 per click and ended up at 0.39cpc.
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        • Profile picture of the author crudenbay
          Originally Posted by ben565 View Post

          chris actually logs into the system and shows us how to set up a direct linking campaign with the rev detective niche and shows us his results after 84 clicks = 6 sales, I set up a the same campaign so that everything was the same as chris's campaign and yet after 84 clicks i had 1 sale?

          this system is supposed to be 100% profitable according to him,obviously it is not,

          btw i started at $1.50 per click and ended up at 0.39cpc.
          Come on! How many people do you think are duplicating what Chris has done with Reverse Phone? Does anyone really expect to be profitable with it with everyone bidding on those terms.

          Tip: when you see a guru demoing a niche, do not waste your time on it. Instead, learn from him and use it elsewhere.
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          • Profile picture of the author cms418
            crudenbay,

            When you are getting as many or more clicks than he was why wouldn't you get the sales?
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              • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
                still I say to you.......... Dont Mess With Chris Or Frank And Their products. Neverr, because they just rule. Capiche?

                Peace Out!
                Or what ... you'll post a really MEAN face at me like this ?
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                • Profile picture of the author ayuwarr
                  We'll wait and see.
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              • Profile picture of the author ben565
                Originally Posted by ccmusicman View Post

                This is pretty simple, really:

                Sales are ALWAYS up and down! Chris's sales could've been a fluke, other people's could've been caught on a bad day.

                Time of day, time of week, month, season, etc. ALL play a part in sales. Chris, being an experienced marketer, would know this and obviously try to maximize his sales by hitting right when people are more likely to spend money. (And to demonstrate how well his system works)

                Also, you don't have any real statistical relevancy with so few clicks. But after 84 clicks and you DO make a sale...that is considered "standard" 1% conversion ratio with fresh traffic.

                But the fact is this...people are experiencing sales with this keyword, and their CPC is going down with those ad's. Seems like the GCD works pretty well.

                Rob
                You are missing the point. With this system you find a campaign that has been running for awhile,in this case chris found someone direct linking to reversephonedetective for 99/101 days, so chris identified this as a campaign that you will make money on,so chris set up a campaign and made 6 sales from 84 clicks,

                So i then replicated this campaign exactly,same ad,ctr,ad pos,keyword,i even tested it on the same day and yet i have had 1 sale from 152 clicks.

                So if the system works so well as you state then why did i not have a similar conversion rate to chris?

                According to him a campaign like this is guaranteed to make you money,100% of the time,i would not be making claims like this as it gives people an unrealistic expectation.
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                • Profile picture of the author evertd
                  Originally Posted by ben565 View Post

                  So i then replicated this campaign exactly,same ad,ctr,ad pos,keyword,i even tested it on the same day and yet i have had 1 sale from 152 clicks.

                  So if the system works so well as you state then why did i not have a similar conversion rate to chris?
                  In my humble opinion you got what GCD promises. You got your ad shown and you got clicks on it. Once it goes to the sales page, then it is up to the sales page to actually make the sales.

                  But, did you also consider the possibility that when people watched the video, they went to google and searched for those keywords featured in the video and saw your ad (which was exactly as the one in the video), and at least some of the clicks you got were from the people that watched the video after you? So I'd guess in some way you were the unfortunate victim of the success of the videos.

                  That's one of the problems with keyword and market research these days, it's impossible to tell how much the results are being skewed by other people doing the same research.
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                  • Profile picture of the author baronig
                    thanks this post is eye opener.I wish more people would have know about this post before buying GC.

                    i did post this link on his blog and guess what? it was never posted
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                    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
                      Originally Posted by baronig View Post

                      thanks this post is eye opener.I wish more people would have know about this post before buying GC.

                      i did post this link on his blog and guess what? it was never posted
                      The software isnt for sale yet? Launches 3/10/09 ???
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                  • Profile picture of the author ben565
                    Originally Posted by evertd View Post

                    In my humble opinion you got what GCD promises. You got your ad shown and you got clicks on it. Once it goes to the sales page, then it is up to the sales page to actually make the sales.
                    Actually GCD promises how to find a successful campaign in under 10 mins.
                    Gcd promises that if an ad is running 99/100 days then you will make money if you copy it,which i did and i lost money on it.

                    So getting your ad shown and getting clicks on it is not was GCD promises,anyone can slap up an ad and get clicks on it.
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            • Profile picture of the author crudenbay
              Originally Posted by cms418 View Post

              crudenbay,

              When you are getting as many or more clicks than he was why wouldn't you get the sales?
              CCMusicman's post (the one after yours) summed it up really well, so I'm not going to repeat it.

              Main point is this....do not go after the big niches with GCD. Everyone who signs up will - so go elsewhere. Come back when things die down a bit.
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            • Profile picture of the author MajorK
              Originally Posted by cms418 View Post

              crudenbay,

              When you are getting as many or more clicks than he was why wouldn't you get the sales?
              Did you do exact match on the keywords? He did. That makes or can make a huge differance. Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author pcalvert
      Originally Posted by ben565 View Post

      I set up the same campaign in the rev phone niche with the same keyword,ctr,ad position and direct linked and after 152 clicks i have had only 1 sale and yet chris was converting at 1:15, how come such a huge difference as i was duplicating his campaign exactly?
      Because of the small sample size, the results are statistically meaningless. In other words, the results shown don't actually prove that the software works, they only give the appearance that it works. It's kind of like someone promoting a stock trading system by showing you a chart of one stock that the system made a killing on during one time period. It may look impressive, but it doesn't tell you anything about how the system will perform over the long haul.

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    • Profile picture of the author thatmartin
      Originally Posted by ben565 View Post

      I set up the same campaign in the rev phone niche with the same keyword,ctr,ad position and direct linked and after 152 clicks i have had only 1 sale and yet chris was converting at 1:15, how come such a huge difference as i was duplicating his campaign exactly?
      I really hate to call someone a scammer but...
      When you look at the video again, you will see in his AdWords account that his target URLs pointing directly to CB contain something like "tid=123" but the CB report shows different (meaningful) tid's.
      This means the sales he presented in the video were generated by a different campaign/adgroup.
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      • Profile picture of the author John34
        Originally Posted by thatmartin View Post

        I really hate to call someone a scammer but...
        When you look at the video again, you will see in his AdWords account that his target URLs pointing directly to CB contain something like "tid=123" but the CB report shows different (meaningful) tid's.
        This means the sales he presented in the video were generated by a different campaign/adgroup.
        This is interesting point and i noticed it just now.
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        • Profile picture of the author Food Guru
          Re from JHollar "I am curious about one thing - how is Chris doing a direct linking to reversephonedetective.com using some other domain?

          Since the display and destination URL have to be the same,is he doing a domain redirect?

          Does that still work with google?"

          The reverse phone affiliate site gives you your own landing page so you can have your own domain without masking
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      • Profile picture of the author ChrisG
        Originally Posted by thatmartin View Post

        I really hate to call someone a scammer but...
        When you look at the video again, you will see in his AdWords account that his target URLs pointing directly to CB contain something like "tid=123" but the CB report shows different (meaningful) tid's.
        This means the sales he presented in the video were generated by a different campaign/adgroup.
        Originally Posted by John34 View Post

        This is interesting point and i noticed it just now.
        I'm surprised this didn't generate more comments, but after checking myself the adwords url actually ends with "?id=123" not "?tid=123", so the "123" you see does not refer to his clickbank tid. He should have been crucified if he did something like that...
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  • Profile picture of the author John7447
    With all these offers to get rich,print money.One could go broke buying them all. If I had a system that worked so well don't think I would be shearing, why are they.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rane
    Can somebody clarify the Major differences in GCD, Affiliate Elite, and Affiliate espionage? (If the answer is obvious go easy on me-everyone starts somewhere)

    Thanx!
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  • Profile picture of the author pgreenwo
    At least 3 things are happening:

    1) Sample size blindness - a test of 84 clicks isn't enough to be statistically representativ of the performance of the test. So some people will get 1 conversion, some people will get 20 conversions.

    2) Selection bias - Chris may have shot several set-up videos and then presented the best result...he even mentions that techique when he starts looking at the 'learn guitar' niche (if I recall). It's still a true result, but it's not representative.

    3) It's a non-static test...as someone rightly pointed out, the measures he used to select his campaign are historical measures (from the last few months). Once new players enter the market, market forces will drive the bidding price up, and therefore the profitability down. Transparency (which Chris claims - correctly - that he is creating) drives efficiency into markets.

    So if you suddenly create 500 new players going after the same most promising niches from historical data, most will get their shorts eaten, as bid prices rise. The winners will be the ones who have a hidden advantage, such as a long-standing account with Google, a better way to bid for position, reach across other PPC providers, landing page generation/match to keywords, etc.

    And a campaign may be profitable one day, and loss making the next, based on statistical varibility...particularly when the numbers of visitors are small.

    And this is the nub of my concern, voiced earlier...the value of the competitive information they are peddling changes...rapidly...and there's a basic human tendency to want to 'game' the prospect list (a game theory called 'tragedy of the commons' if you want to look it up).

    What to do? Learn the basic lesson, and then 'zig while the others zag'.
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  • Profile picture of the author mott
    OK here is my take on this: Chris did an example where he made 6 sales from 84 clicks. Ben does the same example and gets 1 sale out of 152 clicks.

    Let's assume both Chris and Ben are telling the truth. So now what happened?

    Let's say 20 other people did the exact same example as Chris and Ben; wouldn't that saturate the ad so to speak, and make it less profitable? I guess my point is, if one ad is making money, duplicating that ad might still make money, and re-duplcating it may also, but by the time the 20th duplication comes along, the ad ceases to be a money maker.

    If the cpc went down to .39 in one day, I assume it can go lower over time, and Ben did make a sale. Perhaps over 500 clicks we can get a better reading of if this works (if Ben wants to spend the money).

    And one final thought; we are only seeing in the videos what Chris WANTS us to see. There may be other parts he isn't bringing up about GCD that can truly make money 100% of the time. Perhaps over 90 days Ben's ad WOULD make money (or picking less competitve ads than this one turned out to be).

    Just my 39 cents worth.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
    Everyone bidding on the same keyword would affect bidding PPC prices, but not sales per click!

    If you're getting similar price and CTR, you should be getting sales. Otherwise why bother?

    I mean, we want to get sales, not traffic!

    We really need the beta testers feedback. I mean, if it work as advertised, GCD should be as close to an automatic money machine as you can get. So the testers should have a lot more $$$ right about now.
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  • Profile picture of the author mott
    Let me ask this: If an ad is being shown for 100 straight days, can we assume it is making money? And if I clone the ad, wouldn't I make money too (over 100 days)?
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  • Profile picture of the author JNFerree
    I was 'tempted' to cut `n paste the email I got from the boys running PPC Classroom, but I decide against it.

    Suffice to say, these guys know PPC as well as anyone on the planet (and) both Amit and Anik declare they are semi-addicted to the Detective.

    A recommendation coming from these guys makes this a no-brainer 4 me!

    Watching his 3rd Vid now - and yeah, Chris is one helluva marketer

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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    A recommendation coming from these guys makes this a no-brainer 4 me!
    The affiliate commission on this is $450 per order plus $25 per month.

    $450 per order! They will make more on this then their PPC Classroom!

    I heard that Warren Buffet has signed up to be an affiliate.


    I can spend up to a maximum of 1100 PER DAY!
    Anyone who makes claims about how much money they have are always full of it!


    Ask the guy himself if im a partner or affiliate.
    P.S. - Full disclosure - I am associated with the upcoming GCD launch.
    So which one is it?


    Beta testers have had this program for what, a month or two or three?


    And still, no beta tester results!
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    Is the affiliate program only open to beta testers? How did you find the commision info? Is it going to be thru a network or private affiliate program?
    It's a private affiliate program.
    I found it searching around, I don't have the link handy but it's out there and anyone can become an affiliate.

    FULL DISCLOSURE: I am an affiliate. Hell, for 450 bucks I'll try and sell anything.

    I think it was offered to testers a while back. I'm not sure if they paid or not.
    The only thing I'm fairly certain of is the testers must have signed a non-disclosure statement because none of them are replying to this thread.

    Or, is it none of them have made any money using it?
    They have had it long enough to form an opinion.

    I would guess that all positive statements for the program are from affiliates or newbs sucked in by the videos.
    Again, 450 bucks per order. You won't find any Judas there!

    The guys with lists are drooling over this offer. They can't wait for March 10!
    All you have to do is get your list to watch the one video and if they have the $997 up front and the $25 per month, they will buy.

    I hope the product does work. I would buy but I need a little more then a few really cool videos and postings from drooling affiliates who really have no idea other then the really cool videos and newbs who remain positive because of all the money they have thrown around.
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    • Profile picture of the author mott
      Originally Posted by vince8151 View Post

      I would guess that all positive statements for the program are from affiliates or newbs sucked in by the videos.
      I fall into the sucked-in newb category. :p

      Obviously this will have a money-back guarantee, so it can be worth it to test it out. Also Chris Carpenter is well-known, so he won't skip town with our money.

      Perhaps beta testers are not using their own money on the system, but are just supposed to test the features for bugs (or can use their own money if they wish but are not allowed to disclose their results).

      I do think it is a good ploy to have all these videos for free, pretty much showing what GCD does; you can decide for yourself if you can make money with it
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      • Profile picture of the author crudenbay
        Originally Posted by mott View Post

        I fall into the sucked-in newb category. :p

        Obviously this will have a money-back guarantee, so it can be worth it to test it out. Also Chris Carpenter is well-known, so he won't skip town with our money.

        Perhaps beta testers are not using their own money on the system, but are just supposed to test the features for bugs (or can use their own money if they wish but are not allowed to disclose their results).

        I do think it is a good ploy to have all these videos for free, pretty much showing what GCD does; you can decide for yourself if you can make money with it
        Don't know where you got that bit about "not using their own money".

        I'm a Beta user and ONLY spend my own money. And I can tell you I am not doing this to "find bugs", although they do surface now and then.

        I'm using it to make money for me and my clients.

        GCD is pretty rock solid, with a couple of minor glitches in the 6 weeks I've been using it.
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        • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
          Well .. hows the efficacy of this tool? Is it accomplishing your objectives, and could you accomplish them without it?

          How much do you need to be prepared to spend on PPC - cash on hand - to make this tool and the system to be revealed ... work?

          Originally Posted by crudenbay View Post

          Don't know where you got that bit about "not using their own money".

          I'm a Beta user and ONLY spend my own money. And I can tell you I am not doing this to "find bugs", although they do surface now and then.

          I'm using it to make money for me and my clients.


          GCD is pretty rock solid, with a couple of minor glitches in the 6 weeks I've been using it.
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        • Profile picture of the author vince8151
          Question for those that build test campaigns based on what you saw in the videos. Did you build a negative keyword list as part of your test?
          Keyword should have been placed in brackets [

          GCD is pretty rock solid, with a couple of minor glitches in the 6 weeks I've been using it.
          Finally, a tester has posted. Thanks!

          And a few more should also post. No matter positive or negative.

          crudenbay, the watchers of the cool videos could only copy the campaigns from the GCD's video and, as you have read, no success stories.

          Glitches aside, that's expected, I gather there are other things that the videos left out which prevented the people who copied the campaigns from turning a profit?

          I almost have a sneaking suspicion that not only do you need the GCD for x amount of dollars, but the real secret to really make money is da da da.

          Can you please explain further? And, your take on the failures mentioned.

          Your 2nd post got in while I was writing this. Never mind.

          Need a few more testers to post.
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        • Profile picture of the author mott
          Originally Posted by crudenbay View Post

          Don't know where you got that bit about "not using their own money".

          I'm a Beta user and ONLY spend my own money. And I can tell you I am not doing this to "find bugs", although they do surface now and then.

          I'm using it to make money for me and my clients.

          GCD is pretty rock solid, with a couple of minor glitches in the 6 weeks I've been using it.
          Excuse me, Crudenbay, but I didn't mean to imply that you were spending someone else's money. What I meant was, that perhaps testers were not spending money in the testing of the product. I hope you realize that.

          Also quite frankly, if you are a beta tester and are using the software primarily to make money, and apparently not to find problems, then you should not be testing the product. The function of a beta tester is to find any problems with the software that developers can't find, such as data loss, crashes, slowness of processing, etc.

          Though I'm happy to hear the product is making money for you, I can't believe that was what Chris had in mind when he made you a tester. Just my opinion.
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          • Profile picture of the author crudenbay
            Well Mott, that would be a typical Beta you describe, where everyone thrashes on the product to find bugs...but this was different.

            Instead we were asked to use it to see if we could be successful with it...

            And BTW, this was rock solid from day one of "beta testing." I saw very few reports of bugs within the forums. I've been running it for several weeks and only seen the odd glitch which they fix very quickly.

            This product is ready for prime time.
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            • Profile picture of the author Steve Mount
              Originally Posted by crudenbay View Post

              Well Mott, that would be a typical Beta you describe, where everyone thrashes on the product to find bugs...but this was different.

              Instead we were asked to use it to see if we could be successful with it...

              And BTW, this was rock solid from day one of "beta testing." I saw very few reports of bugs within the forums. I've been running it for several weeks and only seen the odd glitch which they fix very quickly.

              This product is ready for prime time.
              Ok.... SO WERE YOU SUCCESSFUL WITH IT?!????

              The videos are impressive, the beta testers say "it works great", yet no one has said

              "YES. I have made X amount of dollars in profit"

              Would be really nice to get some proof.
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  • Profile picture of the author Leon McKee
    Question for those that build test campaigns based on what you saw in the videos. Did you build a negative keyword list as part of your test?

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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    Ok.... SO WERE YOU SUCCESSFUL WITH IT?!????

    The videos are impressive, the beta testers say "it works great", yet no one has said

    "YES. I have made X amount of dollars in profit"

    Would be really nice to get some proof.
    Steve,

    I'm not sure if we'll ever find this out from anyone other then ourselves after we buy it. I tell you what, sign up as an affiliate and I'll buy it from you if you buy it from me. It will save us $450 each. I wonder what the pay out threshold is? I bet it's $500. Never mind.

    I had a discussion with another beta tester on another forum a few days ago resulting in the same skirting of the issue. It was like asking McCain and Obama direct questions during one of the debates. I found out everything I didn't really want to know.

    Who GAF about glitches and who GAF that it's ready for prime time and who GAF about collecting data and who GAF about who made it.

    Does the SOB make money or what.

    The election is over, now is the time for real answers.
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    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      can we get an amen? Preach it brother!

      Originally Posted by vince8151 View Post

      Steve,

      I'm not sure if we'll ever find this out from anyone other then ourselves after we buy it. I tell you what, sign up as an affiliate and I'll buy it from you if you buy it from me. It will save us $450 each. I wonder what the pay out threshold is? I bet it's $500. Never mind.

      I had a discussion with another beta tester on another forum a few days ago resulting in the same skirting of the issue. It was like asking McCain and Obama direct questions during one of the debates. I found out everything I didn't really want to know.

      Who GAF about glitches and who GAF that it's ready for prime time and who GAF about collecting data and who GAF about who made it.

      Does the SOB make money or what.

      The election is over, now is the time for real answers.
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  • Profile picture of the author summit199
    Hey,

    just a thought, but perhaps the reason there are no beta testers on here is because they are to busy picking that "low hanging Fruit" that may be a little harder to harvest once the rest of us get our greedy little hands on the GCD2...
    I can't wait.
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  • Profile picture of the author jhollar
    I just watched the videos and I am really not sure how up to date the database is?

    One of the examples that Chris talks about is the keyword 'wal' which gets like millions of searches a month and has a profitable affiliate running an ad for walmart.

    I just checked in google and there's no sign of any ad....so, he's probably been google slapped for some reason!!!

    That's the problem with these spy tools - they are always a few weeks/months behind in terms of capturing and displaying data...
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    I'm using it and so far it seems like a great product. I still have the same problem however, I spend more on adwords then I make. Even with the tool, you have to know how to create profitable adwords campaigns.

    I do like the fact that you don't have to wait to see the history of keywords...they are already in the system so no waiting.

    I just found this on another thread about GCD.
    Kind of a boring thread, not cool like this one.


    Hey new kids on the block, read the above quote.

    I guess if I just spent $1100 I would still say it's a great product too.
    And another 99 bucks will be due soon.
    Even with a great tool, you still have to know what the hell you are doing.
    And you still have to have the cash to keep up with Mr. Google's invoices while you are losing.

    Nothing is easy!
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    You can't run a PPC campaign for Wal-Mart
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    "low hanging Fruit"
    C'mon. Don't fall for the hype.
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  • Profile picture of the author hatdance
    I saw the videos and it looks real promising. I would like to know if any beta testers were beginners and if they made any money. What is the learning curve from start to cash?
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    In my humble opinion you got what GCD promises. You got your ad shown and you got clicks on it.
    That's one hell of an expensive promise!
    I hope he took you out to dinner too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Mount
    I've been thinking about this software through out the last day or two.

    Seems to me that either:

    1. It's too good to be true

    or

    2. You simply CANT go wrong. I mean, if you really do straight COPY the ad and landing page off of a campaign that's been running rock solid for 90-100 days straight... then wouldn't you be 99% sure that you WILL eventually profit from that ad?

    I'm thinking that it's just too early to tell at this point. Copying the campaigns in the video is pretty foolish if you ask me. You KNOW that probably 100 other people are doing the same thing.

    Once we all get our hands on the software, and start looking at cloning successful ads outside of the IM niche, then I guess we'll find out if this software actually delivers the goods.

    I'm really hoping that this software is as good as it looks.
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    • Profile picture of the author mott
      Originally Posted by Steve Mount View Post

      I've been thinking about this software through out the last day or two.

      Seems to me that either:

      1. It's too good to be true

      or

      2. You simply CANT go wrong. I mean, if you really do straight COPY the ad and landing page off of a campaign that's been running rock solid for 90-100 days straight... then wouldn't you be 99% sure that you WILL eventually profit from that ad?

      I'm thinking that it's just too early to tell at this point. Copying the campaigns in the video is pretty foolish if you ask me. You KNOW that probably 100 other people are doing the same thing.

      Once we all get our hands on the software, and start looking at cloning successful ads outside of the IM niche, then I guess we'll find out if this software actually delivers the goods.

      I'm really hoping that this software is as good as it looks.
      Yeah Steve, that's what I said earlier (though you said it better)...if person A is successful at something, and you do EXACTLY what person A does, then you will be successful! Sounds logical to me.

      But of course if 100 others also copy person A, then there is the problem with too much competition. Then you might not be as successful, since we are competing with each other and there is just so much one can win.

      So if GCD is actually doing what it says it's doing, then I don't see a problem; the trick is to copy something no one else has copied.
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  • Profile picture of the author artsub
    Other mentioned options are much better that Google Cash Detective
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  • Profile picture of the author pgreenwo
    OK, while this discussion has been going on, I've been doing some research and thinking...perhaps I can share what I've thought and found so far, putting aside the marketing hype? I know no-one is going to thank me for this (rather long) post, but I hope some people find it useful. Here goes: The GCD people are making a few claims, including:

    1)They have a database of a few month's data about the presence & absence of PPC ads on Google Search engine sponsored results. This includes ad creative, links, keywords and landing pages for approx 2.5 million keyword phrases.

    2)They have built a system that allows you to query their database to profile on the basis of keyword, link structure, and ads.

    3)They have built human interfaces that let you inspect variations in ad creative for an identified affiliate.

    4)They have built human interfaces that allow you to quickly browse through landing pages from ad links.

    These are all shown by the videos, and are directly testable. Furthermore they claim:

    5)Their system is robust enough for wide-scale use.

    6)The system is an efficient mechanism for keyword research for PPC-based affiliate marketing (this has two components, usability and data accuracy).

    We appear to have a beta tester on record who has supported those claims. Now we're on some more wooly ground...they make these further claims:

    7)If an affiliate ad persists in a high ranking spot for a keyword phrase over an extended time then it is currently profitable for the promoter of an affiliate product.

    8)If it's profitable for the promoter then it will be profitable for you as an incremental promoter of the affiliate product.

    9)It is currently possible to make substantial profits by direct-linking from the ad to the affiliate page, using an affiliate link.

    These are hard to validate without doing a large scale test; they are safe things to claim, because the test environment isn't stationary; the impact of the test will change it.

    Claim 7) refers to identifying a symptom of a profitable campaign; all diagnoses are subject to the problem of false positives...so it is possible to identify the symptom and mis-diagnose the underlying cause. The same symptom could indicate, for example:

    An affiliate marketer who has taken their eye of the ball (perhaps because their overall portfolio is doing quite all right thank-you-very-much, or their measurements aren't up to the job) or is behaving irrationally.

    An affiliate marketer who uses a big sample size before making a go/no go decision about a campaign.

    A campaign that used to be successful, and is being given a chance to return to profitability. The problem here is that you don't know in advance when that might be, in the same way that a forex trader doesn't!

    A vendor masquerading as an affiliate (to boost their ratings). The economics of this approach are different than for a regular affiliate.

    Advertiser whose cost of advertising is lower than yours (a long term account holder, and/or a big spender, or a JV arrangement with Google for some other reason) or with a special revenue sharing arrangement.

    A remnant campaign from a product launch that has ended.

    A campaign whose timing is precise, but happens to coincide with the times the data is sampled.

    A campaign that is working on a specific geography that you are unaware of.

    A campaign for which the landing page content is crucial for improving the conversion rates.

    Experimenter error - that is, it's successful, but your test provided results that were incorrect, perhaps on the basis of your sample size, or something else.

    Claim 8) is also problematic. Buying into a keyword campaign involves you in a market, and as we've seen from the financial world, markets are chaotic - sometimes they masquerade as being tame, other times they turn savage. On this basis, an incremental advertiser could drive prices way up; I'm sure Google has modelled it, but they're probably not sharing the results with us - Google has got an amazing portfolio play with Adwords / Adsense, and we're the ones taking the commercial risks!

    Also, it is feasible that an incremental advertiser could change conversion rates! Certainly, if I detect a feeding frenzy (lots of Adwords pointing to the same place, lots of Adwords making hypey claims), then my guard is raised when I get to the landing page. I'm also spoiled for choice, and I might start exploring...reviewing the review sites, seeing if I can find the vendor themselves, direct.

    Claim 9) is valid if Google hasn't prevented it! Logically, there will always be some opportunities where direct linking works. There will also be campaigns where it doesn't...and that depends on the efficiency of the landing page.

    So now on to the results of my research:

    GCD will speed up your ability to find niches where profits can be made, and structure campaigns to capture the profit compared to a tool that requires you to identify the keywords first, then capture information about competition.

    As such, it will significantly reduce your time-to-market for an affiliate campaign. And there is real value in that! (Claim 6) If you are a newbie to the area of PPC, GCD may save you weeks of research and trial and error.

    My concern is that the same information you have will be available to a large group of other people, who may distort the markets...and the launch process being used by GCD may exacerbate this issue. I expect this effect won't be large, and won't be long, and it can be side-stepped by avoiding aggressive sorting of the data - choose a niche idea first, rather than sort the whole of Clickbank's URLs for the most consistent, highest volume advertiser!

    Also, you'll need additional tools if you want to run enough of a portfolio to get a consistent income - and I don't know yet whether these are included in the Google Cash Automator - maybe someone else here does? You'll want to be able to track the profitability of your campaigns by keyword; you may want a bid management tool once your spend makes it worthwhile; you may also want to manage domain names and potentially you'll want to propagate keyword targeted landing pages, link cloaking. And if you do landing pages, then you need to think through content and copy, and where you acquire that from...

    You'll also need to be wary of over-trading, as the costs and profits come out of different accounts.
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    • Profile picture of the author mott
      Originally Posted by pgreenwo View Post

      I know no-one is going to thank me for this (rather long) post, but I hope some people find it useful.

      Thank you pgreenwo!!!

      Actually this is a well thought-out post, you put a lot of thought into it and raised some great points. I guess there is more to this than assuming a campaign that ran for 100 days has been successful and should be jumped on. Perhaps this system has cross-checking to see that the campaign is actually a money-making one, and doesn't fall into the categories you mentioned (or one can do other research to determine that).

      So really thanks for the great post.
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    • Profile picture of the author AlexKaplo
      Originally Posted by pgreenwo View Post

      A campaign that is working on a specific geography that you are unaware of.
      Wow, good point! How are we supposed to know if a specific campaign is profitable if the advertiser is only advertising it in a specific country...

      ...After hearing Chris's teleseminar I recall him saying that the GCD does not detect countries outside of the USA!

      This is something that was to be brought up and that we have to be aware of... the only thing I can think about to try to solve is take a sample off the information that GCD gives you and I guess take a risk from there and try to promote it in the countries you think the campaign will be profitable in.

      Best Regards,

      Alex
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  • Profile picture of the author evertd
    Thanks for everyone bringing up good food for thought. I guess in the end it is a question of whether you see value in it and believe that it will pay back your investment. At $997 up front it is pretty steep, but the $97 per month after that is probably pretty good value IF you actually use the research it provides.

    And if you just want to make money out of the inevitable feeding frenzy to commence on Monday, check out the JV page: GC Detective JV Partner Blog
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    if person A is successful at something, and you do EXACTLY what person A does, then you will be successful! Sounds logical to me.
    Unfortunately this is far from what really happens in IM.
    I'll go out on the limb and say it's about 95% impossible to copy a method exactly and be successful.

    Mott, if I sat you down right next to me and you watched what I did all day, (multiple PPC campaigns going for the singles, not the home run), and if you listened to me explain what I was doing without falling asleep, and then you went home and tried it yourself, you would FAIL.

    What I do has evolved from trial and error over an embarrassing long time to what it is today and will almost with certainty change again tomorrow. No way could you copy this or any other method out there, I don't care who's method it is and I don't care how they guarantee it or all the swell bonuses,(boneruses), they give you.

    It's an easy sale for someone selling the plan,method,program,software etc.. do what I do and prosper.

    Truth of the matter it just doesn't work for the buyer because most buyers won't put in the time to learn the method, then adapt it to their own style. And that's the key point and is precisely why most,(95%) of the people fail at this business.

    If everyone could copy and be successful, there would be about 100 zillion million richer then shit Internet Marketers out there living in Mexico making cool videos.
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    • Profile picture of the author mott
      Vince, that isn't quite what I meant.

      I will make a bold statement right now. If you put your "system" on paper where you make X dollars a year, and you left NOTHING out, and you give me FEEDBACK when I make mistakes, then I GUARANTEE you that I would make what you make in a year, if I stuck with the system long enough. There is no way I can fail.

      You are right...the reason there aren't a zillion marketers making a fortune is because they don't try hard enough, they don't stay with it, they are afraid to make mistakes, or don't learn from the ones they make, or they aren't given everything they need to know, and are too lazy to look for the missing pieces. They don't make the X overnight so they quit. They start out, do it for a week, and then abandon it and try the new flavor in town.

      It's like dieting. Here is another bold statement: ALL DIETS WORK! They all help you lose weight. The problem is, people don't lose the 100 pounds in a day, and so they quit. Or they lose it and then don't follow through on how to keep the weight off, and so they gain it back again.

      If you were a successful carpenter, and I studied under you and did everything you did, over time I would be a successful carpenter. Same with dancing, skiing, and internet marketing. No not in one day, and not if I don't have the desire and am unwilling to stay with it after I fall on my face.

      As for GCD, what I was saying was, if you duplicated successful ads you'll have successful ads too. I'm not saying Chris' product will make everyone who uses it a millionaire. But I do say that if Chris' product shows successful ads, and you duplicate the efforts, then you'll have successful ads.

      I bake a great tasting cake, and you follow my recipe to the max, you'll have a great tasting cake too (maybe not at first try, but eventually if you stick with it).
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      • Profile picture of the author wizzie
        come on... just give me the order link
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  • Profile picture of the author gohrayson
    I'm not sure anyone has announced this but Google Cash Detective has 2 payment plans... it was mentioned in the blog posted earlier... but here goes anyway.

    Apparently You Pay US$997 Upfront with $97 dollars monthly subscription

    OR

    US$1997 (inclusive of 12 months of GCD & GCA )

    One big price tag on this one~

    O.o

    Peace~
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    • Profile picture of the author baronig
      It always amazes me if this tool is so profitable why reveal it to the public?why not Chris does not keep it to himself?
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      • Profile picture of the author schnisz
        Do the math. $1000 plus $97.00/month for how many thousands on his list? Granted he will split with affiliates, but thats money! In theory the software looks pretty awesome. Very much out of my price range though. I hope somebody comes up with a less expensive option. I understand PPC fairly well, I'm a member of PPC classroom, however I am gunshy about spending 80 bucks a day to "test" a campaign espcially when the stats quoted to me are 9 out of 10 campaigns fail.
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        • Profile picture of the author pgreenwo
          Originally Posted by schnisz View Post

          Do the math. $1000 plus $97.00/month for how many thousands on his list? Granted he will split with affiliates, but thats money! In theory the software looks pretty awesome. Very much out of my price range though. I hope somebody comes up with a less expensive option. I understand PPC fairly well, I'm a member of PPC classroom, however I am gunshy about spending 80 bucks a day to "test" a campaign espcially when the stats quoted to me are 9 out of 10 campaigns fail.
          There are less expensive options - you can build your own database with a tool costing <$30!

          Review this thread to discover them named on page 1. You just have to do a bit more work, and waiting...
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      • Profile picture of the author gohrayson
        Originally Posted by baronig View Post

        It always amazes me if this tool is so profitable why reveal it to the public?why not Chris does not keep it to himself?
        One of the reason why he's selling it to the public is because presumably that he's SPENT over $350'000 in this software. How many campaigns or how long must he spent to get back the money?

        6 months?

        4 months?

        By selling to the public, he would have get perhaps half or even the whole cost of production back and he'll still be able to use the software himself, or he could just sit back and earn the $97 monthly fee.

        100 people buys package with monthly fee = $9700 / MONTH.

        So why not? I would
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  • Profile picture of the author DonDavis
    I bought this product when it was offered to 30 people as a pre-launch type of thing. I don't recall if it was an offer for beta testers specifically or not. At any rate I paid $197 up front with a monthly of $97. At that time they were saying that the eventual price would be $497 at launch. I guess they re-evaluated the pricing if it's going to be released at $997.

    I remember another product that created the same sort of buzz about a year and a half ago or so. I don't recall the name for sure. Undercover Profits maybe? That software pretty much delivered the same information that GCD does except you had to identify your keywords/ads and then track them to gather the data. So if you wanted to see how frequently an ad was running you needed to track it over time to find out. The big difference here is that this information is already available to you as they have been tracking 2.5 million keywords since about October (I think they said).

    To me the weakness with this software is that you are relying mainly on one thing to determine profitability, and that is the amount of time the ad has consistently ran on the adwords network. That alone is not enough to make a decision as to whether the ad is profitable or not.

    -Is the advertiser building a list and using an autoresponder to increase his conversions?
    -Does he have a backend product of his own that he is also selling to the list?
    -What is his quality score/ cost per click?
    -Is he stuffing cookies?

    And those are just a few.

    You cannot get the whole picture by simply looking at the amount of days that he has consistently ran a certain ad. The software can show you a large part of the picture but not all of it. There is still a lot of research that has to be done if you want to eliminate as much risk as possible. That can be very time consuming if you are analyzing several campaigns. Not really what I want to be doing myself, but to each his own.

    Some of the campaigns I ran lost money and some of them made money. I had three campaigns slapped because I was direct linking. I then tried redirecting and had a couple campaigns outright shut down for doing that.

    So I am convinced the only way to approach it is to register your own domain for each product you want to promote, do a little preselling on a landing page (which includes an optin of course), and then provide your affiliate link to your visitor to proceed with the purchase. This was no revelation though as that is the only way I have been willing to run adwords for affiliate marketing anyway. In my opinion if you are spending the money on the ads and not building a list from it, then you are not making effective use of your money.

    This is a very slick software and it works just like you see in the videos. However it is not the magic button that will provide you with fail proof campaigns as represented in the sales hype. You can certainly use the software to help you identify campaigns that appear profitable on the surface, but you had better be willing to follow through and find out as much about that campaign as you can before moving forward with it. Everything is not always as it appears on the surface!
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    Everything is not always as it appears on the surface!
    Excellent review Don.
    Just what this thread needed.
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    • Profile picture of the author cms418
      I totally agree with Mott.

      GCD can be a very useful tool. Test each campaign that "apperars to be successful" for at least a week and if it is smooth and proves to be profitable keep it running. If not pack up and move to the next one. As long as you are continually involved in marketing and testing different products and niches, you WILL stumble upon products and services that convert. Trust me I have been in this game long enough now to realize that.

      Any one else in this game should agree. I would also attest that most would agree when we say that marketing in this way will cost you money and you better be prepared to shell out.

      Those who are in to get rich quick should take a step back and think about what they are getting into.

      Also for some people: please stop making claims about the price when you have no idea what it will cost.
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      • Profile picture of the author gohrayson
        Originally Posted by cms418 View Post


        Also for some people: please stop making claims about the price when you have no idea what it will cost.
        The price has already been confirmed.

        It's $997 with $97 monthly subscription or $1997 for the software inclusive 12 months subscription of GCD & GCA...

        I know what GCD means but no idea of GCA.

        Commissions are $450 upfront and $25 monthly

        AND

        upfront $900 PER SALE.

        No wonder Mike Filsaime has already promoting his product.
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        • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
          Originally Posted by gohrayson View Post

          I know what GCD means but no idea of GCA.
          GCA = Google Cash Automator -- which is basically the tool to automatically load the keywords and ads in to your Google Adwords account.

          Not sure if he's going to sell them separately but on the videos at the top of the page it shows two tabs, one for GCD and one for GCA. He shows a brief demo of GCA in video 4 "Making Money as FAST as possible!"

          From a marketing perspective, maybe he thinks that if he presents them as 2 separate products then it appears he is giving a great deal by selling them together.. though I really can't imagine how he expects the average beginner in this economy to put up $1,000 (or "$997") and then $100 (or "$97") every month. On the other hand, there is the other option of paying $2,000 (or "$1,997") upfront. Maybe that is one of the downsides to living in a remote place like on the coast of Mexico... it causes you to be out of touch with reality.

          In order to rationalize all of this I'm expecting he'll give the first month free with the deposit of the $997 along with a x-day money back guarantee. Then the sales letter or video will proceed to tell you how easy it will be for you to make that $997 back in no time along with the rest of the years monthly costs so don't panic.
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  • Profile picture of the author jhollar
    am really surprised that the numbers in GCD seem to be way off. One of the videos talked about a keyword "refund tax" which is supposed to have 550K searches a month.

    Google's keyword tool only shows 90K searches for the broad match and just 880 searches for exact match.

    Even if google is a bit off, there's still a massive discrepancy between both numbers.

    Once could be mislead by GCD into assuming that this is a hugely profitable keyword and then spend time and money only to discover that the traffic is nowhere near what GCD painted it to be...
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    • Profile picture of the author pgreenwo
      Originally Posted by jhollar View Post

      am really surprised that the numbers in GCD seem to be way off. One of the videos talked about a keyword "refund tax" which is supposed to have 550K searches a month.

      Google's keyword tool only shows 90K searches for the broad match and just 880 searches for exact match.

      Even if google is a bit off, there's still a massive discrepancy between both numbers.

      Once could be mislead by GCD into assuming that this is a hugely profitable keyword and then spend time and money only to discover that the traffic is nowhere near what GCD painted it to be...
      This is a very seasonal keyword. Check Google Trends...Google Trends: refund tax

      Big launch campaigns take a lot of work to get together, so the video may have been shot a while back...
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      • Profile picture of the author cms418
        I would like to know where this information on price is posted? On Chris Carpenter's site it says people are expecting this to be thousands of dollars, which it won't.
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        • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
          Originally Posted by cms418 View Post

          I would like to know where this information on price is posted? On Chris Carpenter's site it says people are expecting this to be thousands of dollars, which it won't.
          Well then advise us as to how you know it WONT be that much?

          I suspected that the pricing being quoted in this thread had to be leaked from the potential JV partners, or those that know them.

          If you want somebody to JV your product to their list you'd better be promoting before the launch date of 3/10/09 - right? Surely the info exists - just because Chris' site isnt broadcasting it to you Pre Launch - which would wouldnt make much sense to do so ... doesnt mean people here on the warrior forum are NOT in the know.

          If you've got facts and knowledge that the product wont be 1997.00 a copy - please be sure to advise us what it really will be and how you came across this credible info.

          thank you.
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        • Profile picture of the author AffiliateMax
          Originally Posted by cms418 View Post

          I would like to know where this information on price is posted? On Chris Carpenter's site it says people are expecting this to be thousands of dollars, which it won't.
          Pricing was posted on the affiliate program /JV link posted by another poster (evertd) above:
          GC Detective JV Partner Blog

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        • Profile picture of the author evertd
          Originally Posted by cms418 View Post

          I would like to know where this information on price is posted? On Chris Carpenter's site it says people are expecting this to be thousands of dollars, which it won't.
          If you actually read the thread you'd see I posted the link to the JV Invitation page several posts ago. And on that page the whole pricing structure is laid out.

          As for the videos, they must have been made several weeks ago. I noticed in one of the videos he visits a clickbank product's pitch page, and if you look at the same page now it looks completely different.

          In the videos he also speaks about most of the campaigns having been tracked 90 - 100 days, or that type of timeframe. And they claim they've been collecting data since October. I know this is just conjecture, but 90 - 100 days would put you somewhere in early January.
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  • Profile picture of the author jhollar
    I am curious about one thing - how is Chris doing a direct linking to reversephonedetective.com using some other domain?

    Since the display and destination URL have to be the same,is he doing a domain redirect?

    Does that still work with google?
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    • Profile picture of the author DonDavis
      Originally Posted by jhollar View Post

      I am curious about one thing - how is Chris doing a direct linking to reversephonedetective.com using some other domain?

      Since the display and destination URL have to be the same,is he doing a domain redirect?

      Does that still work with google?
      That is exactly why if you are buying this with the intent of direct linking or redirecting, you are probably wasting your time. No they won't catch them all. Yes they will slap your wrist if they catch you. But why chase your tail like that? How many slaps on the wrist before they close your adwords account? I don't care to find out myself. Why not setup your landing pages on your own domain and be done with it?
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    Since the display and destination URL have to be the same,is he doing a domain redirect?

    Does that still work with google?
    Google doesn't check each url all of the time or if they do, they let it go.

    I get caught every once in awhile on a re-direct.

    When they catch you they continue to watch that one adgroup, not the campaign.
    If I want to keep it going, I'll slap up a fast blogger and use it as a landing page.
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    • Profile picture of the author papeter
      Originally Posted by vince8151 View Post

      Google doesn't check each url all of the time or if they do, they let it go.

      I get caught every once in awhile on a re-direct.

      When they catch you they continue to watch that one adgroup, not the campaign.
      If I want to keep it going, I'll slap up a fast blogger and use it as a landing page.
      Vince when you say a 'fast blogger' do you mean something like wordpress.com ( not org.com) or blogger.com for landing a page?
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  • Profile picture of the author DonDavis
    We are hearing a lot in the states these days about how violent it is in Mexico, and how the drug lords are running rampant. There are reports of Mexican gangs kidnapping people of wealth etc. I don't how accurate any of these reports are, but where there is smoke, you'll usually find fire. Is it a good idea to be calling yourself an internet millionaire and disclosing your remote location in Mexico?

    Just something that came to mind as I watched Chris' super cool videos. Frank has nothing on this guy as far as the cool factor
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    • Profile picture of the author evertd
      Originally Posted by DonDavis View Post

      We are hearing a lot in the states these days about how violent it is in Mexico, and how the drug lords are running rampant. There are reports of Mexican gangs kidnapping people of wealth etc. I don't how accurate any of these reports are, but where there is smoke, you'll usually find fire. Is it a good idea to be calling yourself an internet millionaire and disclosing your remote location in Mexico?

      Just something that came to mind as I watched Chris' super cool videos. Frank has nothing on this guy as far as the cool factor
      Mexico is a BIG place. I believe most of the violence would be around Mexico city and the central parts. Where Chris lives there is literally almost nothing other than some tourist traps a little north of there. My company had a business weekend near there a few months ago. It is very beautiful and I'm sure the Mexican authorities do everything they can to keep the tourists sheltered from the realities of Mexican life, tourism is a major part of their GDP.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Es
    hey all - i'm fairly new to all of this, so excuse me if this is a dumb question. But how important is using any "spy" software for things like this? If you are doing affiliate promotions for product x and if you go to google and search for "product x" and then print out the search results and come back and do it 3 weeks later and look at who is still in those same positions for that term, don't you know obviously who is being successful?

    i've seen other tools that claim to show you bid prices but is there any way that a tool can actually have correct data for that? doesn't the bid price depend on factors like your adwords account history and your QS and other factors?

    so...if you're the top advertiser for "product x" and a bunch of newbies buy this product and start bidding after product x, wouldn't they start with much higher bid prices because they don't have the history established with Google? Doesn't Google reward successful advertisers?

    can anyone clear this up?

    p.s. and in these kinds of threads it's always odd to me when people can't cite clear and consistent numbers. If one person claims they had a $100 day or lets say even a $1000 day - it's a bit meaningless if that was their only successful day. Because if they made $100 on one day in 20 days for example they are really making less than $5 a day, right? and it's misleading for that person to make it sound like they're averaging $100 a day!

    so - i'll repeat the chorus - anyone out there having CONSISTENT success with this and can share the types of consistent average daily profit they are making?

    thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Shift
    Quote,`wouldn't they start with much higher bid prices because they don't have the history established with Google?'

    I'm neither for nor against GCD but listened to a teleseminar Mark Ling from affilorama dot com did with Chris Carpenter and in it Chris gives details about his bidding strategy.
    He explains how he initially starts with a higher bid than required and then gradually lowers it.
    If you're interested then listen to the call, it's freely available at the above mentioned site.

    I think any PPC marketer who isn't a newbie already knows that to simply copy someone's campaign isn't going to work in the long run.

    And it's pretty obvious (to me anyway) that just because an ad has been running for months doesn't mean it's converting very well.
    Some of the reasons for this have already been mentioned in this thread but I know personally that I do have some campaigns that don't convert very highly but I keep them because the CPC is very low (due to using my own strategies) and the clicks often convert into leads.

    2c.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jay Es
      Originally Posted by Shift View Post

      Quote,`wouldn't they start with much higher bid prices because they don't have the history established with Google?'

      I'm neither for nor against GCD but listened to a teleseminar Mark Ling from affilorama dot com did with Chris Carpenter and in it Chris gives details about his bidding strategy.
      He explains how he initially starts with a higher bid than required and then gradually lowers it.
      If you're interested then listen to the call, it's freely available at the above mentioned site.

      I think any PPC marketer who isn't a newbie already knows that to simply copy someone's campaign isn't going to work in the long run.

      And it's pretty obvious (to me anyway) that just because an ad has been running for months doesn't mean it's converting very well.
      Some of the reasons for this have already been mentioned in this thread but I know personally that I do have some campaigns that don't convert very highly but I keep them because the CPC is very low (due to using my own strategies) and the clicks often convert into leads.

      2c.
      yes, i did listen to that call and understood his approach to lowering bids. i get that part.

      but the question i was raising...my understanding is that there is a historical factor in bid pricing - is this correct? (e.g. if you see a guy in slot one you can't swoop in and bid what he's bidding and beat him out of spot #1 because he has built up a history which has given him a conversion rate. You are are starting at 0% for that campaign and have a long way to go to be on parity. And he's built up a history with google too. For you to overtake him, Google would have to make a greater profit which would mean that you would have to have both a high CTR rate and a high bid price, right??
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      • Profile picture of the author AffiliateMax
        Originally Posted by Jay Es View Post

        but the question i was raising...my understanding is that there is a historical factor in bid pricing - is this correct? (e.g. if you see a guy in slot one you can't swoop in and bid what he's bidding and beat him out of spot #1 because he has built up a history

        That is basically correct, yes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Chris states that the #1 spot has a low ROI. He says you don't want to have the #1 spot because many people who click the #1 ad are not interested in really purchasing anything and this will therefore cause you to lose money.

    What's your thoughts on that?
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    • Profile picture of the author Shift
      Originally Posted by Yusuf View Post

      Chris states that the #1 spot has a low ROI. He says you don't want to have the #1 spot because many people who click the #1 ad are not interested in really purchasing anything and this will therefore cause you to lose money.
      What's your thoughts on that?
      The most important point is for you to test for yourself. Don't take Chris's or anyone else's word because if you test for yourself in a particular niche/market/product you may find that the #1 ad spot converts the best.

      2c.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shift
    I don't claim to be an expert but I'll answer my best.

    Quote,`For you to overtake him, Google would have to make a greater profit which would mean that you would have to have both a high CTR rate and a high bid price, right?'

    My understanding is that the higher your CTR is the lower your bid price, but you must also have a great QS. For example some of my landing pages have a QS of 9 and the clicks are very cheap.
    But the most important thing is that Google serves relevant ads to their users, and a high CTR helps to prove that your ad is relevant to the keyword the user is searching for.
    So I don't believe it's money driving the Google game but it's very important for Google to deliver the most relevant organic and paid results (besides we all know that they make a lot of money providing such a service).

    If your CTR is very poor (the consensus seems to be under 2%) then delete that ad and start again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Shift, great advice there is no real "one size fits all" strategy. Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author Guru
      Hi I think this is best spy software so far in the market. Yes lots of people will make money from it and yes 80% plus people will not make any money from it. BTW I am offering big bonus for GCD and you can get it from here Google Cash Detective

      Good Luck Guys!

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      • Profile picture of the author brand-all
        Originally Posted by Guru View Post

        Hi I think this is best spy software so far in the market. Yes lots of people will make money from it and yes 80% plus people will not make any money from it. BTW I am offering big bonus for GCD and you can get it from here Google Cash Detective

        Good Luck Guys!

        Admin - if this is against the forum law pls delete my link above
        Well, Yes it is actually against the rules "Bob" but I clicked on your link, and...
        Here's the deal. You provide (on your blog page) the following information and I will buy from your link. The information to supply is;
        Your full name and street address. Your land line and mobile phone numbers. Your real email address and a written guarantee that you will honor your promised bonus. This guarantee is to supplied via snail mail to a postal address that I will give to you once you have provided the above information.
        I will also require you to tell me exactly how you intent to fulfill the bonus.

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        • Profile picture of the author Guru
          Originally Posted by brand-all View Post

          Well, Yes it is actually against the rules "Bob" but I clicked on your link, and...
          Here's the deal. You provide (on your blog page) the following information and I will buy from your link. The information to supply is;
          Your full name and street address. Your land line and mobile phone numbers. Your real email address and a written guarantee that you will honor your promised bonus. This guarantee is to supplied via snail mail to a postal address that I will give to you once you have provided the above information.
          I will also require you to tell me exactly how you intent to fulfill the bonus.

          Cheers
          Bill
          hey pm me for my details. I can see you are in australia so I can give you my mobile number so you can ring me. hey this is very simple GCD will provide a affiliate commission and one can pass that on..
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  • Profile picture of the author John34
    I also wanted to know if we will have payment mode of paypal or only credit card?
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    • Profile picture of the author Blazer2007
      I purchased and am not impressed.

      It may work for some, and Wow others, but I am moving on to find a real time saving tool.

      Wish everyone the best.
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      • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
        Originally Posted by Blazer2007 View Post

        The user interface is clunky and not friendly. Does not have a mature feel to it and the stability has been totally worthless as I am not excited about paying $1,600+ to have a tool that is clunky and needing me to copy and paste info into notepad and more steps than I care to play with.
        I agree that you need to copy and paste keywords and it is very inconvenient
        and takes much more time then needed. I don't like it either!
        Also, I didn't get into training session on Friday - the system didn't accepted my login info for some reason...
        Hope they will fix these issues soon.
        But regarding stability - now it works, at least for me, without any problem.
        And slide show is a good feature as well. I like it - you can get feeling what
        is going there in seconds.

        Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author JayStarr
    I think GCD is a pretty good app but its wayyyy overpriced.

    I was invited on the beta phase at $197 upfront + $97 / mth.. and still I think it was not good value.. compared to similar progs out there.

    The 'best' feature about GCD is the wildcard search or URL tracking.. simply enter the URL and get all the KW they are bidding on.. I know KWS does this a little but its got a 30 day lagg..

    WILL GCD MAKE MONEY.

    for sure.. I agree with some of the other posters onhere about the reversephonedetective..

    I pulled in just uder $800 in 3 days.. so it does work..

    For those people who want proof.. mate.. cant be botherted.. I dont care if you beleive me or not as I am not trying to sell anything.. do your own testing etc.

    The most IMPORTANT factor in successful IM is 'Niche Selection' then KW selection.

    I would like to get GCD but its not a good deal at the price..

    However.. I would'nt mind doing a group buy with may be 4 or 5 people.. In a way a mastermind aliance where we all pay equally and get access to GCD.. If we want to share successful info with each other about campaigns thats optional.. but atleast we have access to the raw data from GCD.

    Let me know if anyones interested in doing a group purchase? As I saw from the beta tester login.. GCD uses simply a aMember front end or something similar so I do not believe we should have any problems using GCD as a team.

    so if this appeals to you let me know?
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    • Profile picture of the author dicksony
      Hi JayStar,

      I'm new to the forum can't PM yet, I like your suggestion about group buy can you PM me please for contact. I live in sydney as well

      Cheers
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  • I definitely agree that you can make a lot more money building a list and selling via backend and so on, but direct linking does have its advantages like:

    1. Great for beginners trying to learn PPC (adwords). They can get a feel for the game, then change their links.

    2. Great for "CPA Offers". It's proven that Adwords is the most profitable method with CPA offers or lead based programs.

    3. Great for niches you know little to nothing about. Rather than trying to write "fake reviews" of items you've never seen, or just trying to build a niche business in those kinds of niches, you can just promote items for that niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Sean
    I watch Chris's video and setup following his keywords showing a successful high traffic ads. The Ads got very little impression and zero clicks so far. Keywords need to cost $1 to $2 per click to show up on first page.
    So is GCD really giving real results?
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    • Profile picture of the author apa101
      Originally Posted by Nick Sean View Post

      I watch Chris's video and setup Reverse Phone Detective following his keywords showing a successful high traffic ads. The Ads got very little impression and zero clicks so far. Keywords need to cost $1 per click to show up on first page.
      So is GCD really giving real results?
      I would suggest you not to worry abt those high bids in the first place. Have a good budget before starting high traffic campaigns. Try bidding like $5-7/click & setting your daily budget initially to $20-25/day to get on 1-4 top positions. Don't worry, you wont be charged $5 but just like $1-2/click initially. You may pay high in the first place but will get nice CTR which is the way to go.. Then try reducing bids slowly. In 2-3 days, u can get 20-30 cents bids on those keywords IF you do it right.

      If you are new to game, I would suggest starting with low traffic and proven keywords. And not trying those competitive ones which every Tom & Dick would be trying!!

      GCD2 is goldmine for the ones who knows how to milk with it.

      Just yesterday night I discovered 3 campaigns which must be 2k/day AT LEAST. I say that from exp.

      In hurry, I started one of them with just 6 keywords.. Got up today morning & BAM@!!

      Had about $800 in sales with $287 adspend. Thts like $500+ profit/day..

      I wrote all this just to prove that it DOES works! BUT you should know how to use it the right way!

      Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author toptones
    Launch tomorrow. Still getting used to the software, but I really like what I see. Just completing Arbitrage Conspiracy and bought and using Google Shadow. These use a shotgun approach while GCD2 uses a laser. With all the competition out there with CPA offers and 'blasting' I think the laser option may be the way of the future. Don't get me wrong, blasting will still get results, but if you want to hone in on a favorite niche and check out what is selling well, GCD2 is the way to go IMO.
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  • Profile picture of the author richfit
    @jrise He's right Domain Forwarding and Masking is completely fine and you can easily get away with it. It's super easy & Go Daddy is the company to buy your domains through!

    With the coupon code: chill3

    you can get a domain for under $8

    I also recommend cranking out a landing page though for better CTR's and Relevancy! Google loves relevancy. And if you're into lowering your CPC then do this step and you will be rewarded. Not only in the Paid Search Engines but also in the Organic! ; )
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  • Profile picture of the author richfit
    Agreed! Google Cash does work fantastically well! $287 spend and $800 profit is good for taking it live the night before! I'm sure you can increase your profits as your Optimize your Bids!
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  • Profile picture of the author John34
    I wonder how this software can work for exact and phase match keywords? It only shows data based on broad match keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author richfit
    Hey apa101 how many times are you going to link in here?
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    No, cannot sign up thru your own link
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    • Profile picture of the author evertd
      Originally Posted by toptones View Post

      No, cannot sign up thru your own link
      Care to share where you found that rule? I'm looking for a TOS on the JV blog, but don't see it.
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      • Profile picture of the author richfit
        Originally Posted by evertd View Post

        Care to share where you found that rule? I'm looking for a TOS on the JV blog, but don't see it.
        buying through your own link is illegal friend. Chris monitors who purchases and who he pays out. I would say find a Bonus that more valuable than the few dollars you'd get back.

        In most launches, there is a team of people who check those things out. Trust me, a lot of people try to do it to find out they can't. Just a word of warning. You might as well get as much Value!
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        • Profile picture of the author evertd
          Originally Posted by richfit View Post

          buying through your own link is illegal friend. Chris monitors who purchases and who he pays out. I would say find a Bonus that more valuable than the few dollars you'd get back.

          In most launches, there is a team of people who check those things out. Trust me, a lot of people try to do it to find out they can't. Just a word of warning. You might as well get as much Value!
          Ok, fair enough. I was just wondering since I didn't see it in the TOS on the JV Blog.

          So who is offering the best bonus?

          I like the PPC Classroom guys' bonus. A set of webinars about GCD, 25 researched niches and one of the guys is going to totally expose one of his own campaigns with landing page, keyword research, the whole thing.

          Which ones are you guys looking at?
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        • Profile picture of the author Eben
          Originally Posted by richfit View Post

          buying through your own link is illegal friend. Chris monitors who purchases and who he pays out. I would say find a Bonus that more valuable than the few dollars you'd get back.

          In most launches, there is a team of people who check those things out. Trust me, a lot of people try to do it to find out they can't. Just a word of warning. You might as well get as much Value!
          Well I can always use my girlfriend's info to purchase through my own aff link. $900 might seem like a few dollars to you, but for most of us it's a decent amount. Even if i were to get it with someone else's bonus, it would be from one of the big guys, and not from some random dude on WF offering coaching/cash back, whom i might never hear from again after the purchase.
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  • Profile picture of the author googlerankingexpert
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    Any ebook with the word Google in it is bound to be crap. Some steady research has pretty much given me better methods than the people who make these ebooks
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    • Profile picture of the author richfit
      Originally Posted by googlerankingexpert View Post

      Any ebook with the word Google in it is bound to be crap. Some steady research has pretty much given me better methods than the people who make these ebooks
      The software that Chris is selling today is by far crap. Why don't you test it out and see what you think before you just a book by it's cover...

      Just sayin...
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    It's not an ebook
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketingProInfo
    Two questions...

    1. Does anyone know if you can enter your own keywords into GCD, or can you only work with the words (all 2.5 mill of them) that are already in GCD?

    I understand that the Option 2 payment is $1,997 for the first year, but I'm unclear what the 2nd year costs? Is it another $997 + $97 per month, OR is it just the $97 per month for year 2?

    Cheers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
      Originally Posted by MarketingProInfo View Post

      Two questions...

      1. Does anyone know if you can enter your own keywords into GCD, or can you only work with the words (all 2.5 mill of them) that are already in GCD?

      I understand that the Option 2 payment is $1,997 for the first year, but I'm unclear what the 2nd year costs? Is it another $997 + $97 per month, OR is it just the $97 per month for year 2?

      Cheers.
      Yes you can enter your own keywords, he mentions this in the final video.

      If you pick Option 2 then after the first year it is $97/month... I read him answer that somewhere in the comments but I can't seem to find it now.
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  • Profile picture of the author joost
    Hello Friends
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketingProInfo
    Thx Yusuf ...it's just some folks are quoting there's an 'annual fee' of $997 a year from year 2 onwards PLUS the $97 a month, yet I haven't seen where they've got that from...

    ...hope your answer is right.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    I just found it, it was in the older comments in the post.

    Hi Chris,
    I also am confused about the payment options.
    1. If I take the pay $1997 in 4 payments, do I still get the Automator for life? Then the 2nd year is it $97/mo. or $997 + $97/mo.?
    2. If I take the pay in full $1997, then the 2nd year is it $97/mo. or is it another $997 + $97/mo.?
    Sorry for not understanding, but I do not want to make a mistake.


    Note from Chris:

    Sorry for the confusion. Yes if you do the $1997 in 4 payments then you get GCA for life. And your second year GCD is $97 per month. No joining fee. If you take the payment in full, then yes the 2nd years, GCD is only $97/mo (no joining fee)

    Hope that cleared that up!

    See you on the inside I hope!
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  • Profile picture of the author richfit
    Hey Food Guru,

    Yea he's masking the domain and redirecting. Almost like an iFrame but just a mask.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    500 Internal Server Error

    Am I alone?
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  • Profile picture of the author sjchiz
    Nope...Big surprise their server blew up, huh? When doesn't this happen!
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  • Profile picture of the author evertd
    Oh geez, the launch didn't even start yet and the site is already down.

    Is that a stunt or for real? I actually thought Chris seemed like an upstanding guy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Looks like we discovered a niche.. an info product targeted at Internet marketers on how to not have their servers crash when they launch a product.
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    • Profile picture of the author cms418
      I hope this works in the next few minutes. I snuck away from work for this.....

      Come on Chris!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
    In the mean time...


    I was reading a post above on about buying from one another, and wonder if we partner up say 3 people, and A buys from affiliate B who buys form C who buys from A.

    We get 450$ and 27$ a month off the price as we make that in affiliate commission.


    Is that even allowed? If it is, I'd go for it. I wont at 997$ though.
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  • Profile picture of the author cms418
    To:
    google ranking expert. PLease read posts and know what we are all talking about so you don't bring a negative vibe into something you are not at all up to speed on.
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    • Profile picture of the author aandredor
      I get error after error . I think it will take a wile.
      Or a bit more than a wile .:confused::confused::confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author aandredor
        In the email I got today "A short while before the official launch, you will receive
        an email with a link to the order page."

        You got the same email ?
        I didn't got any order page until now

        Also , if they provide a order page , can I order through other link (a bonus link ?)



        Thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
          Originally Posted by aandredor View Post

          In the email I got today "A short while before the official launch, you will receive
          an email with a link to the order page."

          You got the same email ?
          I didn't got any order page until now

          Also , if they provide a order page , can I order through other link (a bonus link ?)



          Thanks
          I received that email also but I didn't get the second email with a link to the order page. Using the bonus link to order should work just fine though I hope.
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        • Profile picture of the author kab1973
          New Launch Date and Time for all those that don't know.

          Wednesday March 11th at noon EDT

          Due to the server crash.

          Edit: Sorry, for the repeat must have posted at same time.
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        • Profile picture of the author cms418
          The launch will be tomorrow now. Frick!
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  • Profile picture of the author evertd
    Well, he IS in Mexico, maybe he's taking his siesta and forgot about the launch.
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  • Profile picture of the author chuckmcguffie
    Has anyone been able to get GCD. today? I have been trying since it oppened.
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  • Profile picture of the author onedollaridea
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    • Profile picture of the author evertd
      Originally Posted by onedollaridea View Post

      I don't guys but I just found this link Few of the Features iSpionage Offers | Ispionage Review and it seems that the tool does the same things as gcdetective and is costing 10 times lesser and offers free trial etc. Judge for yourself.
      Well not exactly. Like the other tools it does not offer historical data up front, it only start collecting data when you start a new project. And you are limited to tracking 250 keywords.

      And those 2 points are the biggest selling point for GCD. 6 months of historical data for 2.5 million keywords. And you can add an unlimited number of your own keywords to be tracked.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulybear
        Hi Guys,
        I just got in a few minutes ago and hopefully everyone else will get in today too. I received an email from Chris saying that I won't be able to log in to use the detective until tomorrow due to the server crash but that is okay I'm just so excited to have gotten in. Good Luck to everybody.
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      • Profile picture of the author onedollaridea
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        • Profile picture of the author aandredor
          It's interesting , dnScoop shows ispionagereview is on for about 15 days
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          • Profile picture of the author aandredor
            Monthly Membership(with payment plan)

            4 Payments of $350 and $97 Per Month thereafter ...
            (Includes 2 Months Free Trial of the Google Cash Automator (value $194!)

            It means is for 4 months ?
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            • Profile picture of the author cms418
              What about all of us that had to work today and took the day off. It would be nice if he allowed us to secure a spot because it could be tough for me to get it on time tomorrow.

              What does everyone else think?
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              • Profile picture of the author evertd
                Originally Posted by cms418 View Post

                What about all of us that had to work today and took the day off. It would be nice if he allowed us to secure a spot because it could be tough for me to get it on time tomorrow.

                What does everyone else think?
                Keep trying, occasionally it is available. I was able to sign up, but not to log in.
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        • Profile picture of the author evertd
          Originally Posted by onedollaridea View Post

          Most of the times the spy tools have existing data about alot of the keywords. I usually never have to wait for few days as they are able to use existing data, beside 1-2 days and you save $900 and get the same data?
          If all you want is a PPC spy tool to track a few keywords, you can get Adspy Pro for a one time $27 at AdSpy Pro. Only thing is you have to install it on your own host, but it is really cool and powerful. It tracks ads and also landing pages.

          I just signed up with GCD because I believe all the added value, history, additional training and all the plans they have going forward makes it worth the premium. (I'm signed up, but can't login yet because of the server problems)
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        • Profile picture of the author Shift
          Originally Posted by onedollaridea View Post

          Most of the times the spy tools have existing data about alot of the keywords. I usually never have to wait for few days as they are able to use existing data, beside 1-2 days and you save $900 and get the same data?
          Well you won't be getting the same data because GCD apparently has been tracking 2.5 million keywords for a few months, so it will be able to show which ads have been showing and for how many days.

          Whereas if you started to `spy' on such ads with another tool it'll only be able to show you the ads that are showing now. You won't know how long they've been showing for, unless you track them for a long time. So you won't get the historical data GCD apparently has.
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    • Profile picture of the author Shift
      Originally Posted by onedollaridea View Post

      I don't guys but I just found this link Few of the Features iSpionage Offers | Ispionage Review and it seems that the tool does the same things as gcdetective and is costing 10 times lesser and offers free trial etc. Judge for yourself.
      I looked at their site and it does seem to be able to do the same things as GCD.
      It's $79 / month and can track 250 keywords.
      If you want it to track more keywords you have to contact them for a custom price.

      So perhaps the only difference (besides the price) between this and GCD is that GCD apparently holds several months work of data and gives you access to 2million keywords.
      Any other differences?
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    It's working now.. at least for me. Order processed.
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  • Profile picture of the author bidmarket
    I am not getting the email although it says it was sent.
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    • Profile picture of the author aandredor
      For tommorow at 11 noon. Just got email
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepenerd
    I got in, but kind of a back door way. It was all legit and the order processed just fine. Now, I'm just waiting on access to the system. The whole system is overloaded right now including the database server.

    Chris is a stand-up guy. I've been a customer since Google Cash 1 and he has always stood by everything he's said. If his server is crashing, it's not a gimmick. You have to imagine the kind of traffic that the site is serving right now. As a web developer myself I know that there are a lot of moving parts to a big launch like this. It's not uncommon to have a server crash in a high traffic situation. It happens outside of the IM world too!

    Good luck to all those who are hoping to get in today. Now, stay off the damn servers so that I can get logged in and start making some cash!
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  • Profile picture of the author Shift
    The site works fine for me, don't know why some of you are saying the launch is only tomorrow.

    Anyway I won't be buying it because I think it's over-priced.

    Good luck, look forward to reviews.
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  • Profile picture of the author jhollar
    that's correct..u wil pay $350 each month for 4 months (which also includes your $97 monthly fee per month)
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    • Profile picture of the author cms418
      I bought it but can't log in. Everyone else the same?
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      • Profile picture of the author aniebee
        I knew I could count on warrior forum to figure out what's going on - ordered, but can't log in. figured it was a server thing.

        That damn $350/mth option got me, I was going to wait a few days, but figured why at that price?

        Thanks for the update guys!
        Ann
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        • Profile picture of the author Paulo
          I´m not sure the payment plan makes sense.

          So for the Annual Subscriptions how much will you
          pay the following years?

          Do you see it?
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          • Profile picture of the author aandredor
            I have also VISA debit card and it declined it ( I'm not sure but I'll see tomorrow (in my country is midnight ) , it could be only 340 $ on it (because of $ curs )
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            • Profile picture of the author CarlyTaylor
              Originally Posted by aandredor View Post

              I have also VISA debit card and it declined it ( I'm not sure but I'll see tomorrow (in my country is midnight ) , it could be only 340 $ on it (because of $ curs )
              I have plenty of cash available which is why I'm so angry. I don't own credit cards because I do not like to have any debt!

              Not only that but I have lots of money in my paypal too which I thought would be a guaranteed option.

              I actually waited in all day to be there at the very second of the launch and even got to the payment page at 11.45 EST only to have it declined.

              Bummer!
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              • Profile picture of the author paulybear
                Hi, You can go to Triple A (AAA) and get a prepaid VISA. Just take them the cash. They will put it on the card and then you can use the card for that amount of money. They charge you like $5 to do it. Then after you use the money that you put on the card, you can either put more money on it and use it again or just throw it away. Hope this helps.
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          • Profile picture of the author entrepenerd
            Originally Posted by Paulo View Post

            I´m not sure the payment plan makes sense.

            So for the Annual Subscriptions how much will you
            pay the following years?

            Do you see it?
            This has already been answered above. Once your first year is up you'll start paying $97 per month.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketingProInfo
    Can anyone shed any info on the GC Automator? ...it's a big upsell but one Chris hasn't gone into a great deal of detail about? He doesn't really touch on it in any of his videos either, with any screen shots, etc?

    To 'allegedly' be worth 97 bucks a month (the same as the Detective) it needs to be quite an impressive tool, yet no-one really mentions it or proclaims its ROI value?

    Are most of you that have managed to order taken up the 'lifestime automator' offer? If so, what attracted you to wanting this tool?
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    • Profile picture of the author evertd
      Originally Posted by MarketingProInfo View Post

      Can anyone shed any info on the GC Automator? ...it's a big upsell but one Chris hasn't gone into a great deal of detail about? He doesn't really touch on it in any of his videos either, with any screen shots, etc?

      To 'allegedly' be worth 97 bucks a month (the same as the Detective) it needs to be quite an impressive tool, yet no-one really mentions it or proclaims its ROI value?

      Are most of you that have managed to order taken up the 'lifestime automator' offer? If so, what attracted you to wanting this tool?
      I signed up for the year membership, because even without GCA it'll save money over a year's time (not much, but some). He has touched on GCA several times, although not in depth. GCA is supposed to be able to help track your campaigns and conversions at a keyword level. And he talks about a way you can set it up to adjust bid prices in real time. For now I think it'll be great just to have a good and reliable tracking software.
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  • Profile picture of the author CarlyTaylor
    Does anyone know if they accept debit cards? I've been trying with my visa debit and it's declining. I don't have a credit card!
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  • Profile picture of the author oprjw
    Does anyone have an idea when we will be able to log into the detective?
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepenerd
    OK, a little update. I just went to try to login and am getting a new message now. This tells me that they're working on the issue.

    Thank you for your order!

    Your GCD account is being provisioned. All accounts are verified manually. Please stand-by for a confirmation email from us as soon as your account is ready for use.
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    • Profile picture of the author Guru
      its early 5.50am in sydney australia and I woke up so early to buy it.. thanks to people who bought from my link. i will be contacting you and see u other side of GCD.
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  • Profile picture of the author aniebee
    Hey CarlyTaylor - It sounds like Chris is a good guy. Maybe try emailing him about paying with Paypal. There have been a few times where I have emailed the marketer directly & they've always been helpful.

    Just an idea
    Ann
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepenerd
    Another update for those who made it in. I just got an email from Chris about not being able to login. The server that creates the logins also crashed during the launch so they are doing it manually right now. Those who got in should be getting their login details soon.

    Good luck to all!
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Looks like it's back up for whoever is interested.
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  • Profile picture of the author richfit
    Google Cash Detective is now back up and Live! Sorry to anyone who had to wait to get access.
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  • Profile picture of the author apa101
    Its up since almost 90 mins now..

    Hopefully, its going to be sold out
    pretty soon!

    People are SO motivated to buy!
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  • Profile picture of the author calliope
    Does anyone have a link to all the videos about GCD 2.0 so far? I'm particularly interested in the clickbooth video.
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    • Profile picture of the author evertd
      Originally Posted by calliope View Post

      Does anyone have a link to all the videos about GCD 2.0 so far? I'm particularly interested in the clickbooth video.
      Looks like all the pre-launch video pages are redirecting to the sales page.
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      • Profile picture of the author davez
        That's a lot of deniro for a system that'll be worthless if everyone uses it to it's potential.

        I'm pretty sure the reasoning behind these guru's high priced system's is they have to strike while the iron's hot, I'm just plain discouraged with the whole ball of wax.

        Any how I can spend the money on clicks and do the work the hard way and find the real value in earning a good living online. Hopefully these system's won't piss Google off to bad.

        Thanks for the Rant,
        CAVEAT EMPTOR
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      • Profile picture of the author zlt
        Originally Posted by evertd View Post

        Looks like all the pre-launch video pages are redirecting to the sales page.
        Here is the link to Clickbooth webinar (replace dashes with dots - sorry cannot post directly yet) : googlecash-s3-amazonaws-com/streaming/webinar/webinar-mp4
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  • Profile picture of the author toolleather
    Hello everyone,
    I'm a newbie and wanted to get in on the GCD 2, but once I got into the order page and looked at the payment plan, things don't add up.
    1. Option 1 - $997 today and $97 per month thereafter
    Option 1 With Payments of $350 per month and $97 per month

    Looking at Option 1 with payments you are actually paying $1400 ($350 X4) + $97 per month say for the next 8 months which equals another $1164, so you are paying a total of $2564 for the year by going the payment route.

    2. Option 2 $1997 Today and no other payments for the first year
    Option 2 with payment is $547 X 4 = $2188
    Am I missing something or is there some extra money that's going out of your pocket?

    Let me know if I'm off base, I just think that it's a bit expensive and if you're trying to help folks give them the price stated.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author bidmarket
      i saw it also. why is it live when i received an email that said the launch was deferred until tomorrow. then according to him in the videos, option 1 came with a 3 part payment plan and option 2 came with a 4 part payment plan. there was no talk about a one time joining fee.

      hopefully someone can shed some light on this. certainly does not make someone feel very comfortable.
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  • Profile picture of the author evertd
    Yes, you are paying extra for the payment programs, which is to be expected. But the premium is pretty steep, on an annualized basis it is 20%+ interest (over 4 months it's like 60% apr).

    It will be cheaper to just put whichever single payment program you want on your credit card and paying it off over the next year (provided your credit card interest rate is lower than 20%). Or if you pay it off over the next 4 months, it will definitely be much cheaper than using his 4 month payment plan.
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    • Profile picture of the author apa101
      Originally Posted by evertd View Post

      Yes, you are paying extra for the payment programs, which is to be expected. But the premium is pretty steep, on an annualized basis it is 20%+ interest (over 4 months it's like 60% apr).

      It will be cheaper to just put whichever single payment program you want on your credit card and paying it off over the next year (provided your credit card interest rate is lower than 20%). Or if you pay it off over the next 4 months, it will definitely be much cheaper than using his 4 month payment plan.
      WORD!!!

      Thats what MOST of the guyz are doing. It really saves you some cash.
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepenerd
    EDIT: Sorry, not trying to sound like a broken record. It looks like a couple others responded with basically the same message while I was typing mine out.

    toolleather,
    If you go with the payment plan, you're going to pay a higher total amount for the benefit of lower monthly payments. This is pretty common practice. If you have the cash to pay the full fee up front, that's definitely you're biggest savings. But, some people can't afford to drop $1997 all at once, so they're willing to pay extra for the ability to pay over time. This would be the same thing if you were paying interest on a loan.


    bidmarket,
    You may want to go back and review the pricing part of the videos again. I think Chris made it very clear that there was a $997 joining fee with a $97 monthly fee for option 1. Option 2 is $1997 with no joining fee and no monthly payments for the first 12 months.


    I'm certainly not a part of Chris' team, but I've been a long time customer and he's always been a man of his word.
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    • Profile picture of the author bidmarket
      okay, thank you.

      so if you want the gca, option 2 would be better?

      do you think gca is worth having?

      Is it live or isn't it? According to an email that I received from Chris, he was going to defer the launch until Wednesday at 12 est.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketingProInfo
    I think some of you guys may have your sums wrong on the costs of GCD. From what I can work out it's all pretty much of a muchness as to what option you go with re overall cost. It's just the annual costs a bit more up front money, but doesn't really cost you overall much more...

    Monthly Option 1: $997 + 11 months @ $97 = $ 2064 for year
    Monthly Option 1 (payment plan): $1400 (4 x $350) + 8 months @ $97 = $2176 for
    year
    Annual Option 2: $1997 for year
    Annual Option 2 (payment plan): $2188 (4 x $547)

    So all the payment options are quite similar costing less than a couple of hundred bucks extra for the benefit of paying over an extended period ...AND you with the Annual Option the Automator is thrown in free for life...

    ...just my penny's-worth.
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    poor show so far

    No GCD
    Conference call not available (full)
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    • Profile picture of the author Guru
      its hard to get in the GCD right now as their server are very busy. but I am sure it will be ok in few days.
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      • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
        Originally Posted by Guru View Post

        its hard to get in the GCD right now as their server are very busy. but I am sure it will be ok in few days.
        I am sorry but you think that is acceptable?

        These guys take probably $500k minimum profit, and yet there is some kind of surprise in here?

        Why would an expert be surprised that someone who spends $2000 wants access to the services on day one? If you have say 100k people on the list (min), you know 1000 people are going to buy

        I don't buy it personally, same as I would expect 90% of people to want to join the first teleconference and size the service appropriately.

        Don't get me wrong, potentially fantastic tool, but to say that using up 10% of the guarantee period is acceptable without providing anything seems odd

        Lets also be honest this happens all the time, do we not learn from previous launches about capacity, etc.

        Chris seems like a great guy, and things will work out mmost likely, I just don't understand why in the IM community it is deemed acceptable to sell a $2k product you cannot supply?
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          • Profile picture of the author Matrix9162
            Just be patient.

            The launch is still open. I thought it would close in a few hours, but it's still around. More wealth to share.
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        • Profile picture of the author Guru
          Originally Posted by cymonguk View Post

          I am sorry but you think that is acceptable?

          These guys take probably $500k minimum profit, and yet there is some kind of surprise in here?

          Why would an expert be surprised that someone who spends $2000 wants access to the services on day one? If you have say 100k people on the list (min), you know 1000 people are going to buy

          I don't buy it personally, same as I would expect 90% of people to want to join the first teleconference and size the service appropriately.

          Don't get me wrong, potentially fantastic tool, but to say that using up 10% of the guarantee period is acceptable without providing anything seems odd

          Lets also be honest this happens all the time, do we not learn from previous launches about capacity, etc.

          Chris seems like a great guy, and things will work out mmost likely, I just don't understand why in the IM community it is deemed acceptable to sell a $2k product you cannot supply?
          I can understand your frustration but I think this is just temp as everyone was waiting for it long time we all are trying to login and go to call ( finally i was in, they will put recording so no need to worry nothing great there anyway just general stuff )

          I am ok to get hold of this type of software even if I have to wait for some more time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Unexpected Error
    Login page not working for me. Just refreshes the page and my username and login are gone. Not a good start.
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  • Profile picture of the author DRB
    lol u got 2 see this thread: warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/63992-cheech-chong-anyone.html
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  • Profile picture of the author oprjw
    WOW I was in the detective! Went to have dinner and to my surprise I can't log in, same problem as earlier..........

    I sure hope it gets fix soon
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      Just got in!
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  • Profile picture of the author bidmarket
    I am wanting to order gcd through ppc classroom. when I click on the link that they sent me it takes me to one of Chris page where it says to click to go to blog. once there there is an order now tab at the bottom of the page. does that sound like what everyone else is seeing when they ordered from ppc classroom link. i would hate not to get their bonuses.
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  • Profile picture of the author toddperk
    I got GCD 2.0 and can't seem to login...My account got approved and I got the email sent to me but I'm still getting this message when I try to login.

    "Your GCD account is being provisioned. All accounts are verified manually. Please stand-by for a confirmation email from us as soon as your account is ready for use."

    Anyone else getting this error? I don't see a help desk or support page either to contact..
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      • Profile picture of the author JunChic
        Originally Posted by Eben View Post

        just bought GCD2 annual plan through my own affiliate link. will see how it goes.
        You might want to check your affiliate login page to confirm that! I believe it is live or maybe within couple of hours (guessing).
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  • Profile picture of the author Guru
    hey guys keep trying logging in once you are in then it will all be fun till you get tired.

    Tips = don't logout for few days just kidding..
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  • Profile picture of the author googleplex
    The entire Google Cash Detective thing has been going around the net like wildfire, the only thing I can say about them forsure is that they do know how to create some good buzz for there product.
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  • Profile picture of the author kenwarrior
    Maybe this question has already been answered?, my question is isn't GCD just going to cherry pick the best campaigns, flood them with new affiliates so that they quickly become just average campaigns?, surely this thing can't last long with hundreds or thousands of people chasing all the best campaigns?
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      • Profile picture of the author cms418
        Originally Posted by ccmusicman View Post

        I think you have to realize that there are hundreds of thousands of niches out there that make you money, WAY beyond just clickbank products.

        You could sell wicker baskets, soap, info products, dog products, even dogs themselves! (If you had the puppies to sell or knew of an affiliate program for a merchant.)

        Look beyond "just clickbank" and you'll discover a whole world of possibilities.

        For example, I know a guy who makes a low 6 figures a year selling industrial lathes as an affiliate! He makes around 10G a sale. Traffic isn't that high, but it's VERY high converting due to the nature of the searcher.

        Rob
        My question; Can we as a group compile the same affiliate list as Chris has in his videos?

        Or I may have missed it on another thread if something like that is already available.
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          • Profile picture of the author cms418
            Originally Posted by ccmusicman View Post

            I'm not entirely sure what you are asking...

            If you are wanting to know if you can type in a clickbank url like : *product.hop.clickbank.net* " and see all of the affiliates promoting that product, then yes, you can.

            The * are wild card searches, meaning that any characters before and after the "product.hop..." will be added to the results list.

            Rob
            Hey,

            I am talking about the list he has on the word pad of all of his affiliates he uses.
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            • Profile picture of the author Guru
              Originally Posted by cms418 View Post

              Hey,

              I am talking about the list he has on the word pad of all of his affiliates he uses.
              This list is there inside the forum section of GCD.
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              • Profile picture of the author cms418
                Originally Posted by Guru View Post

                This list is there inside the forum section of GCD.
                Sweet!!

                What section buddy?
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                • Profile picture of the author Guru
                  Originally Posted by cms418 View Post

                  Sweet!!

                  What section buddy?
                  One big list is there on this post..

                  :.. Google Cash Detective ..:

                  other i forgot where it is you can search for it
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        • Profile picture of the author steveka
          These guys really know what marketing is about. While aff marketers are struggling with what to buy, what to promote, chris and other IM gurus are laughing all the way to the bank. Every month another next big thing is popping up. It started to become like reality shows, really. I wonder what's coming up next month.

          The tool might be useful, i don't know. But, i know that it's waay over priced. Chris says the software cost him $350k. I would be shocked if it cost him more than $35k. There are softwares out there that does the same thing for less than $30 (no, not $2000). And they do the same thing. You just need to install it on your server. A mini software. Anybody who has a software background, will know what i mean. A basic algorythm and it's not too hard to rewrite a software that already exists. Especially if you can get the source code. Yes, i know that chris has 4 months data already and the other softwares don't have the recent data, bla bla. So what? Run your own software and make all the info you gather private. Yes, it will take months but at least you will still have $1970 in your bank account, plus you will be able to use the data after two weeks. Besides, most of other similar spying softwares have access to the old data too. They are also screening everything, just not twice a day as chris claims that gcd does.

          27 servers? This is the funniest part. I thought GCD was a mini search engine, not a game server. Well, if they are hosting as a world of warcraft server on the backend, then that's a different story. Even a moderately configured "1" server can handle hundreds of online gamers, let alone keyword searching. How much space will 2.5 million keywords occupy, 100 mb? 200? 1 GB? Well, how much space does an average hard drive has nowadays, around 200 GB i guess. If he would have said "My price is expensive because i need bandwidth and that is expensive", i could understand that. But saying that he got 27 servers (in some of his promotional videos he says 26 btw) is just a pure lie. He got 27 servers and that's why people who paid thousands of dollars can't even log in.

          Information is money and that's a thing people are ready to pay, i have nothing against that. That's a part of aff marketing, selling info products. But, exaggerating it and charging thousands of dollars does not sound right to me. If 1000 people sign up and just pay the upfront fee $997, he will make close to 1 million $ plus he will make $100.000 (minus comissions) every month. Nice money. And of course he is gonna continue making videos from Mexico and travel the world, as long as there are people dying to pay thousands of dollars in the hopes of making it back.

          I was expecting people not to purchase on that price actually. What was he gonna do, play with it himself? Of course not. If the price would be around $100 a month with a one week free trial, i would buy it. If it's really a revolution as he says, there should be no worries on both ends. Pushing people to cough up $2000 upfront without even seeing, testing the system smells very fishy to me. It's A LOT of money for me, doesn't matter if i am rich or not. If you are confident with your product and believe it's quality, people should have no problems testing it first before buying. Is Amit stupid, why did he offer one month free trial with all the extra bonuses? Of course not, because he believed the quality of his content and he let people test it before buying it. That's the right thing to do.

          I hope people don't get disappointed with GCD and at least get the every penny back that they spent. But i feel like there will be many complainers around. If it seems to good to be true, it probably is...
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  • Profile picture of the author John34
    I paid for it almost 10 hours back but still i am unable to login.Any of u facing same problem?
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  • Profile picture of the author AndreVas
    Awesome steveka! Very true as to how it is.

    $350,000 is ... well there's no words to describe it.

    I don't think even Windows Vista costs that much to make. LOL.

    GCD2 is actually a very, VERY easily programmable script in PHP.

    Guy in Romania will do it for $1,000 tops.

    As for 27 servers... no comment.
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    • Profile picture of the author aandredor
      Steveka you got a good point , (all that videos sounded like brain washing) , as you say overpriced , too good to be true .

      He says in his videos he wants to share gcd2 ( that he has enough money ) , he wants other people to have financial freedom , that he feels very good helping others.

      Then why he doesn't donate a part of his wealth to some charity purpose , I'm sure it would feel better then selling overpriced products online.

      And yes it is true that a guy from Romania would make an even better software for 1000 $. Let's don't forget that half of Microsoft employees are from the country mentioned .

      I wanted to buy it but it declined my visa card , and now I'm sure I will not buy it because all the thing seems too indian-yoga guru kind , a little sneaky marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlyTaylor
      Originally Posted by onedollaridea View Post

      It is all a marketing gimmick, I run soo many successful campaigns by using a simple $79 spy tool and all they offer all the same data. You do not really need all the historical data, most of the times you need to follow someone with a tight bunch of keywords and few test your adcopy with Direct linking.

      Also when you signed up for the offers did you do it because of bonuses available from partners (i.e. ppc classroom or others on google) or cashback or did you sign up under your own link? I am curious to know this as they have a high % payout for affiliates.

      Cheers
      Hey onedollaridea,

      Would you mind sharing your $79 tool?

      I tried to get in GCD yesterday with no luck because I'm not in possession of a credit card.

      I have recently decided to educate myself with PPC as I've always used Web 2.0 and obviously, Chris's tool would help with that! LOL. But I'm also looking at trying PPC Kahuna after reading the reviews on here.

      I'm not trying to get a particular software to make a quick buck. I want a solid education on PPC which I can learn and implement daily on a small scale until I feel confident to ramp it up.
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      • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
        no affiliate link here but I recommend either ppc classroom from what other have said, or I started with commision blueprint, although this talks about promoting the clickbank products.

        The basic PPC management stuff is awesome in CB, and really helped me with my campaigns.
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      • Profile picture of the author Guru
        i don't see any point of not getting GCD until you are on tight budget.

        what is better looking at the 20 different product using this tool and deciding on one and starting a campaign same time or looking around at so many campaigns ( or doing market research etc etc) and then may be putting data on software's which are hosted on your server and then wait for weeks to get good idea about KWs and then starting campaign ( nothing wrong this way but its just too long)

        may be if one wants to start from scratch and don't want to spend any money to make money then don't buy and do all manually (one can just write on note book every day data and save even that $30 )

        another this why i would think what Chris is doing and how much he is making as long as i make profit from this tool. ( i don't care if he is going to make millions from this tool or more)

        just my opinion

        p.s. adspypro.com is cheap solution for people who are asking
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        • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
          you can use something like keyword spy pro to do the history analysis, it will take you longer as it is manual, but I am running a profitable campaign using this method to get the history of people running the ads and their keywords

          You can also use KSP to do a search on clickbank, etc

          So why use GCD? I want to see if I can speed up my decision making with a tool where the info is presented easier, if not I will refund... easy
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  • Profile picture of the author AndreVas
    CarlyTaylor, the $79 tool that's falls under the criteria of "tool that does it all to spy on Adwords competitors" are: AdSpyPro.com, KeywordSpy.com

    I won't mention SpyFu because KeywordSpy is way better, in that it's database is bigger and more keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author JayStarr
    I can not believe people are even considering mention JP's Adspypro.

    Why? Sure its cheap but you will need to spend atleast $50 / mth on a dedicated server.

    Hostgator, Dreamhost, Hostmonster etc pretty much all the major resellers of discount 'shared hosting' DO NOT allow Adspypro to run on there shared hosting plans.

    Adspypro kills the server resources by too many cron jobs, plus the built in proxy does not work 100% so when you are scraping the data from Google they will bann the connection.

    So yeah, sure Adspypro is an option if you already your own VPS, otherwise forget it.

    Can anyone tell me if the - log in issues with Google Cash Detective have been resolved as I am pretty close on making a decision to buy GCD.

    Also, Still looking for one more partner to join a 'Mastermind Alliance'. This is basically a few of us pooling resources (money etc) to get access to Google Cash Detective at a discounted price.

    Drop a line if you want access to GCDetective for about $140.
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    • Profile picture of the author Davion Wong
      Hi Jay, I am interested in pooling resources for access to GCD. Let me know more how I can do so.

      Originally Posted by JayStarr View Post

      I can not believe people are even considering mention JP's Adspypro.

      Why? Sure its cheap but you will need to spend atleast $50 / mth on a dedicated server.

      Hostgator, Dreamhost, Hostmonster etc pretty much all the major resellers of discount 'shared hosting' DO NOT allow Adspypro to run on there shared hosting plans.

      Adspypro kills the server resources by too many cron jobs, plus the built in proxy does not work 100% so when you are scraping the data from Google they will bann the connection.

      So yeah, sure Adspypro is an option if you already your own VPS, otherwise forget it.

      Can anyone tell me if the - log in issues with Google Cash Detective have been resolved as I am pretty close on making a decision to buy GCD.

      Also, Still looking for one more partner to join a 'Mastermind Alliance'. This is basically a few of us pooling resources (money etc) to get access to Google Cash Detective at a discounted price.

      Drop a line if you want access to GCDetective for about $140.
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    • Profile picture of the author Georgian
      Interesting offer...

      Can you PM me details on how are we going to partner on this matter?
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    nope its not working yet
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    • Profile picture of the author BMurray
      Hi Guys,

      This is Bill and i've been hovering over the forum for about a month now. A lot of great information.....love it. But a word to the wise i've learned there is no free lunch in this wonderful industry. I was a casualty of the google slap a few years back.....saw many of my winning campaigns turned into to losers overnight. Google is always changing the rules and they don't hire some of the smartest people in the country for nothing. What is working today may not work next month. So be careful before you shell out your hard earned dollars. Google Cash Detective really seems like an excellant tool and software but when your in this business you have to think long term. Remember the golden nuggets are in this forum. I've learned more in a month here than in any course or software i've bought over the last 5 years. Just my 2 cents.

      Bill
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  • Profile picture of the author JayStarr
    thanks mate.. not looking good.. hopefully this will keep the doors open a little while longer.

    Also I was privy to some info on the Beta phase.. but am not sure if the use of GCA utilses AffiliateProphet right for all tracking? Is this now included in the membership or is that another cost on top of the GCD system?

    cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author CarlyTaylor
    Hey JayStarr,

    RE: your PM - I don't have enough posts to message you back but the answer is yes.

    You can get me on skype carly_taylor and we'll chat there.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlyTaylor
      or in my sig you can go to a site where it has all my contact details
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    just to note we have had nothing as yet, not even an email about the problems.

    I have had though an email from them trying to sell their Affiliate Mastermind Course
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    • Profile picture of the author Shift
      Originally Posted by cymonguk View Post

      just to note we have had nothing as yet, not even an email about the problems.
      I have had though an email from them trying to sell their Affiliate Mastermind Course
      So you can't even login to access what you were over charged for and now he has the cheek of trying to milk even more $$$ from you, and he claims he wants to,`Give back to the community'.

      Can anyone smell exploitation?

      Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
    Guys,

    I got it yesterday at 3pm EST and got in at 8pm.
    I have be able to get in yesterday and right now without any problem.
    Why you have ab issue? Maybe because Chris mentioned yesterday in email
    that they have to insert registration info manually due to server crush?
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    I got in yesterday and it took about 5 hours to receive the final welcome email with login details.
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    don't know, not see any such email

    no access

    i'm sure it will get fixed, still for me seems odd that if you know you are going to limit numbers (i mean that wouldn't be scarcity in there...) that you don't size accordingly
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    I am so frustrated that I can't log in to the member area. No problem processing my payment though! That area was working just fine!!
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    i paid 21 hours ago, certainly taken the money
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  • Profile picture of the author bidmarket
    did anyone purchase gcd through ppc classroom? did it work okay. i cannot get to Chris' order page.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    Yes I did bidmarket, the problem is with GCD, you can pay but can't login. I am really at the end of my rope with this mess. When I pay such an outlandish price for something, I expect to be able to access it imediately!
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    • Profile picture of the author bidmarket
      Michele,
      Could you pm me the link you used. the link that ppc classroom sent me does not take me to chris order page.
      thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    Frank had a similar issue last year, but he came on here and contacted me direct via email to apologise, as well as emailing everyone to say sorry

    keeping people informed is a must really
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  • Profile picture of the author Shift
    I'm not subscribed to many IM lists but the few who tried to promote GCD to me using hype and promoting false hope only got me to hit the unsubscribe link.
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  • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
    FYI: This is an email from Chris about registration issues:

    date Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:09 PM
    subject Your GC Detective Login Details
    hide details 8:09 PM (17 hours ago)

    Reply

    Welcome to Google Cash Detective!

    == Your Account Has Been Activated! ==

    Sorry for the little login problem. This morning the servers
    crashed due to all of the traffic, and our login system broke.
    So we had to setup all of your accounts manually.

    Whew my fingers are tired from typing! But we've got you
    all setup and everything is working great now.

    To login please visit:

    members-gcdetective-com (replace - with .)

    Alexander.
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    • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
      Originally Posted by wealthwind View Post

      FYI: This is an email from Chris about registration issues:

      date Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:09 PM
      subject Your GC Detective Login Details
      hide details 8:09 PM (17 hours ago)

      Reply

      Welcome to Google Cash Detective!

      == Your Account Has Been Activated! ==

      Sorry for the little login problem. This morning the servers
      crashed due to all of the traffic, and our login system broke.
      So we had to setup all of your accounts manually.

      Whew my fingers are tired from typing! But we've got you
      all setup and everything is working great now.

      To login please visit:

      members-gcdetective-com (replace - with .)

      Alexander.

      didn't get that one
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    nope doesn't work. I doubt they would manually enter peoples details.. surely as its in sql you just import your list, i used to do it all the time, but i don't know what issues they are having

    maybe more likely they haven't been processing the names correctly and have lost user details, and are somehow having to trawl card processor lists, etc
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    Hmmm..hope my 30 day trial doesn't start until I can log in! I didn't get an email and I am ready to scream! Guess that's why they don't have a contact number eh
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    • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
      There is a training schedule email from yesterday:

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      date Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:55 PM
      subject Live Training -8 AM CST Wednesday GCD beginner & 7 PM CST Clckbank Strategies
      9:55 PM (16 hours ago)

      Reply

      The "PROS" quote of the week ---> Keep steadily before you the fact that all true success depends at last upon yourself.

      The importance of words- a life lesson !

      THIS WEEKS FREE CONFERENCES ARE AS FOLLOWS :

      MONDAY - 8 AM GCD BEGINNER CLASSES

      TUESDAY - 7 PM GCD ADVANCED- (How You Beat The Competition)


      WEDNESDAY -
      SPECIAL 8 AM GCD Beginner Class
      7 PM CLICKBANK ( We are a part of the GREATEST business in the world)

      THURSDAY - 7 PM GCA STEP BY STEP

      FRIDAY 8 AM GCD OPEN DIALOG ( BRING YOUR QUESTIONS WE'LL BE THERE TO HELP)

      If you are looking to attend one of our classes, please keep these instructions !!

      .......

      Coming Soon
      The eBay Powersellers Guide To Profits
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    • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
      ------------------------------
      Right now at your fingertips lies easy access to thousands of
      profitable Adwords campaigns. We hope that you immediately
      use this information to start or expand your online business.

      We aim to bring you the best possible customer experience by
      providing a moderated user forum and an adwords professional
      who is at your service 6 days per week!

      Please use both resources to help you along your online
      business journey.

      Our mission is to provide the best online business tool
      available anywhere, a tool that grows and adapts to
      meet the unique needs of its users.

      At the same time, we aim to create an environment where
      our members feel comfortable asking questions, making
      comments, or submitting feature requests. In short, we
      aim to incorporate your input as much as possible.
      ----------------------------------------------

      from the opening email

      I got an email with my login details but they don't work
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  • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
    It looks like they have some problem again.
    I was able to login 30 minutes ago but cannot right now.
    There is the message after login:
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    Thank you for your order!

    Your GCD account is being provisioned. All accounts are verified manually. Please stand-by for a confirmation email from us as soon as your account is ready for use.
    ====
    I will try it again soon.


    Alexander.
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      • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
        It's been almost 24hrs for me now since I paid, and still can't log-in at all.
        Like others have said before, my login page just refreshes, and nothing happens.
        I've received this email also:

        Welcome to Google Cash Detective!

        == Your Account Has Been Activated! ==

        Sorry for the little login problem. This morning the servers
        crashed due to all of the traffic, and our login system broke.
        So we had to setup all of your accounts manually.

        Whew my fingers are tired from typing! But we've got you
        all setup and everything is working great now.

        To login please visit:

        blah blah blah

        But obviously not working. I'm also disappointed in the lack of a contact feature from the login page, and on the blogs also, comments have been turned off. I can only hope it starts working soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    the problem is that as usual the support tickets are hidden behind the members login area, bit of a downer if you can not get access really, do people not friggin learn from past mistakes?

    Add to that not reading/responding to your aweber address and what you end up with is people with no access who can't complain.

    I'm sorry but if amazon did this it wouldn't be acceptable on a $30 dollar book, but time after time it is seen as acceptable in the IM niche with products selling for $2000.

    I sell a dvd set for $69, if they don't receive in 5 working days anywhere in the world you get it for free, i will tell you i make sure I don't give many refunds
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  • Profile picture of the author toddperk
    I still can't login...got about 3 emails now from GCD2 support saying: "Your account has been activated! Go ahead and login!"

    Everytime I try to login I get the same freakin message:
    "Your GCD account is being provisioned. All accounts are verified manually. Please stand-by for a confirmation email from us as soon as your account is ready for use."

    Hmmm....If this keeps up I will be issuing a quick refund. This is pretty ridiculous that a $2k product isn't being supported properly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    I was going to set up a support ticket for everyone here but now I can't log in either. Hope this all resolves soon. On another note, 30 days never seemed like such a short amount of time until I associated it with the money back guarantee.
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    Oddly enough the payment processing is still working lol
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
    Yep, I've noticed that too, just wish everything else worked also lol
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    The "Order Now" button is working but, I'm sure the refund request sever has crashed too! If I can't get access, I will be finding out the answer to that question also.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Soon we might need another type of detective, if you know what I mean...
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    • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
      Originally Posted by Yusuf View Post

      Soon we might need another type of detective, if you know what I mean...
      Now let's not get carried away

      I know this is likely to be a genuine issue, my question is whether it should occur, if you have paid you will get access eventually I am almost certain of that
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
    quelle suprise *rolls eyes*
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    • Profile picture of the author toolleather
      Hello everyone,
      I'm another one of those that can't login. When I put in my login information It just loops back to a blank login screen. This is bad business in my eyes, especially if you have folks paying this type of money for "great" product.
      I wonder how many folks will be asking for refunds soon?
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
    Actually I found this forum by searching "google cash detective unable to login", I suppose it's some consolation that at least it's not just me
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  • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
    I have got it again:

    date Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 2:02 PM
    subject Your GC Detective Login Details
    hide details 2:02 PM (1 hour ago)

    Reply

    Welcome to Google Cash Detective!

    == Your Account Has Been Activated! ==

    Sorry for the little login problem. This morning the servers
    crashed due to all of the traffic, and our login system broke.
    So we had to setup all of your accounts manually.

    Whew my fingers are tired from typing! But we've got you
    all setup and everything is working great now.

    To login please visit:

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  • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
    But it is still the same problem:

    Thank you for your order!

    Your GCD account is being provisioned. All accounts are verified manually. Please stand-by for a confirmation email from us as soon as your account is ready for use.


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  • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
    I think we have to wait for at least 2 hours to give them time to fix the issue and
    then to try login again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    You're right.. sorry I was saying it in a joking way to lighten the mood.

    Really I give Chris the benefit of the doubt... I imagine this isn't turning out how he'd like it to at all, but he just needs to make sure he learns lessons from this problematic launch. Not just the server going down but the lack of communication with customers. I'm a little surprised he, or anyone else from GCD, hasn't posted anything in this thread... it is a bit like fueling the fire.

    Hopefully we will all be able to make much more than $2k in the first month of using it so this won't really matter and we look back at this thread laughing.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
    Fingers crossed Yusuf
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  • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
    BTW
    Yesterday evening I was able to go through all stuff we have seen in Chris' video by myself. It was pretty good experience. just didn't have enough time to try something.
    (

    FYI: Here is overview video:
    gcdetective-com/gcd3_videos/gcd3_overview/gcd3_overview-html
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Johnson
    Hey Everyone,

    I also am having issues, bummer.

    That being said I will mention that it happens all the time with big launches. As others have noted were talking about thousands of people stressing the servers, that is the main issue.

    Sure, everyone tries to plan and prepare ...

    However once your live things are much different, I actually had access yesterday for a bit and this am. I have been studying videos and playing around, however I am unable to loggin once again.

    Having been a full timer now for about eight years I kind of expect this stuff, no need to talk about refunds and all when it has only been a day or two. Let's give Chris some space to get everyone in and taken care of.
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    • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
      Originally Posted by Brian Johnson View Post

      Hey Everyone,

      I also am having issues, bummer.

      That being said I will mention that it happens all the time with big launches. As others have noted were talking about thousands of people stressing the servers, that is the main issue.

      Sure, everyone tries to plan and prepare ...

      However once your live things are much different, I actually had access yesterday for a bit and this am. I have been studying videos and playing around, however I am unable to loggin once again.

      Having been a full timer now for about eight years I kind of expect this stuff, no need to talk about refunds and all when it has only been a day or two. Let's give Chris some space to get everyone in and taken care of.
      Brian I understand what you are saying but I disagree, yes we have come to expect it, but that is because we have become conditioned to it by poor service.

      There is absolutely no reason for it. For something this large then I expect it will have been planned, the servers tested, the payment processing the linking, the loading, etc. If it hasn't then for a multimillion pound turnover product launch it is a bit pants.

      Worse is the complete lack of communication, the complete lack of updates, not even any recognition there is a problem. No wonder so many people believe the internet is a bad place to purchase stuff, can you imagine being a first timer having just shelled out $500+??
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  • Profile picture of the author toolleather
    This is the email I just received from Chris:

    The bad news is that Google Cash 4 is not ready,
    but I'm 80% finished so all of the PPC Classroom
    and Google Cash customers will receive your
    complimentary login to the new video tutorials very
    soon.

    Trust me, it will be worth the wait.

    But there's also some good news. The good news is
    that after 16 months and more than $300,000 in
    development costs, the Google Cash Detective is hands
    down the most powerful keyword tool for affiliate
    marketers that has ever been released to the public.

    We already have over 2.5 million keywords in our
    database!

    Check it out and the free training videos at:

    //gcdetective.com/opportunity.php

    In case you're wondering - the Google Cash Detective
    is an incredibly powerful tool that you access online.
    No installation.

    Trust me, you wouldn't want this living on your
    computer. It takes16 servers to host it!

    The Google Cash Detective finds successful affiliate
    marketing campaigns, and organizes the information in
    a way that you can immediately set up a profitable
    campaign of your own.

    The Detective Delivers a Blueprint for Profit.
    Period.

    No more trial and error. No more wasted clicks, or
    expensive PPC mistakes.

    The Google Cash Detective gives you an "Eagle Eye"
    view of the PPC industry, and allows you to find only the
    most long standing and successful campaigns.

    These campaigns deliver steady, reliable profits.

    I've made a video where I lay out the process step by
    step so you can do it too.

    My video will blow you away!

    Why?

    Well, let's just say that I apologize to the affiliate
    marketer(s) promoting in the reverse phone search niche.

    In my video, I dissect what I believe is a series of
    campaigns in this niche that are bringing in well over
    $1000 per day in profits. I show you everything you
    need to know to do it on your own from the keywords
    down to the ad copy.

    AND

    I literally show you exactly how to do this for any
    market of your choosing.

    Go watch the video now at:

    //gcdetective.com/opportunity.php

    And please leave me your questions and comments
    on the blog there and let me know what you think.

    Talk Soon,
    Chris

    P.S. This works perfectly with PPC Classroom, and
    I couldn't imagine not using the GC Detective
    software if I was a new PPC Classroom member.

    Checkout the free video training series and let
    me know what you think:

    //gcdetective.com/opportunity.php




    He mentions nothing about the server/login problems folks are facing. I know he's got to know what is going on and how long it should take before things are up and running again.

    Just my rant.
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    • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
      Originally Posted by toolleather View Post

      This is the email I just received from Chris:

      [FONT=&quot]The bad news is that Google Cash 4 is not ready,
      but I'm 80% finished so all of the PPC Classroom
      and Google Cash customers will receive your
      complimentary login to the new video tutorials very
      soon.

      Trust me, it will be worth the wait.

      But there's also some good news. The good news is
      that after 16 months and more than $300,000 in
      development costs, the Google Cash Detective is hands
      down the most powerful keyword tool for affiliate
      marketers that has ever been released to the public.

      We already have over 2.5 million keywords in our
      database!

      Check it out and the free training videos at:

      //gcdetective.com/opportunity.php
      When did you get this email.
      It looks like old pre-launch email.

      Alexander.
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      • Profile picture of the author toolleather
        It came in my box at 12:06 pm today, with the title: Bad News.
        I was thinking it was about GCD2, but as you can see it's not.
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  • Profile picture of the author WhosMaverick
    Anybody recieved ppc classroom bonuses?
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    • Profile picture of the author DianneC
      Originally Posted by WhosMaverick View Post

      Anybody recieved ppc classroom bonuses?
      Hi WhosMaverick, I sent my receipt to the email address that was given (Vic..) to get the bonuses but I have not heard anything from Vic or Amit or anyone else. I would sure like those bonuses to jump start my business!

      Dianne
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  • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
    The same here:
    Scheduled Maintenance... Please Check Back in 2 To 3 Hours
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    I could see how this could harm those who offered bonuses as affiliates with GCD also.. guilty by association in the minds of customers, which makes me more sure that Chris is not a happy camper either about all of this since it could hurt any future JV deals.

    As far as I can see there are two main issues, one is the issue of signing up to begin with and the second is the issue of logging in once purchased. As far as the second issue, would it be a bad marketing practice to simply tell the people way beforehand or at least on the sales page: "Due to the possibility of overload, it may take 1-2 days before you can login," or something like that and then if you deliver on time then you're keeping your word.

    This is opposed to saying (as it says on the sales letter):

    "You receive Unlimited 24/7 Access to the Google Cash Detective System (You can start 'Finding & Cloning' other people's successful marketing campaigns minutes from now!)"

    That seems like a much more safer and direct way of handling the potential overload, even if you've prepared for it on the tech side - which no doubt you should. This way in the end if you give people the ability to login immediately then you come out overdelivering, no?
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  • Profile picture of the author John34
    I am still unable to login,when i enter details and click Login,i get the same window with both fields blank.
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    well lets be honest both JV partners and Chris have the cash, earning interest already, I doubt they are much worried about the people who have paid that much
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    "I am SO sorry for the login problems. We have it resolved for most people but there are still about 50 people without working logins. You must be one of them.

    This is the email going out from GCD..I guess I'm one of the fifty! Has everyone else been able to log in? Please let me know.
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    • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
      Originally Posted by Michele Whitley View Post

      "I am SO sorry for the login problems. We have it resolved for most people but there are still about 50 people without working logins. You must be one of them.

      This is the email going out from GCD..I guess I'm one of the fifty! Has everyone else been able to log in? Please let me know.
      From what I can tell most people are not getting access and certainly now the members page is down altogether, somewhat indefinitely (schedule maintenance 2-3 hours), but with no time on
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    • Profile picture of the author malcasid
      Originally Posted by Michele Whitley View Post

      "I am SO sorry for the login problems. We have it resolved for most people but there are still about 50 people without working logins. You must be one of them.

      This is the email going out from GCD..I guess I'm one of the fifty! Has everyone else been able to log in? Please let me know.

      I haven't received any emails about login problems. Anyone else get the email?
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      • Profile picture of the author Collegepro
        I believe log in problems are now all sorted after the downtime earlier today. So the email I received stated
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        • Profile picture of the author toolleather
          Nope, I still can't login, and haven't received an email either.
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        • Profile picture of the author JunChic
          Originally Posted by Collegepro View Post

          I believe log in problems are now all sorted after the downtime earlier today. So the email I received stated
          Never got that email. Also still can't login, get the same error message.
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    interestingly the scheduled maintenance windows doesn't even give a time, just 2-3 hours, so effectively that could be left up for 2 days and with no contact/support who is going to know?
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
    Still nothing here, can't login, and no further emails
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  • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
    FYI Guys,

    You can get some of your bonuses here while you wait:
    Google Cash Detective Bonus Area

    Just something sweet for now...
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
    That's if you can get in to request a refund
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
    Just received this email:

    Hi Mike,

    GCD is offline right now and will be for a few more hours.

    We have found the log in problem that some members
    were experiencing.

    To fix it, we have had to take GCD offline, and we are
    taking this opportunity to upgrade our servers too.

    I expect to be back online this afternoon and
    then we will be running at 110%.

    Sorry about the rocky start for our new members,
    and I apologize to everyone who has had a login
    problem that has disrupted your service.


    Thanks for your patience!

    Talk soon,
    Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    Just got the same email...so again...we wait!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
    It would have been
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  • Profile picture of the author evertd
    Ya'll go ahead and get refunds, more opportunity for the rest of us to get to the good stuff. ;-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Guru
      Originally Posted by evertd View Post

      Ya'll go ahead and get refunds, more opportunity for the rest of us to get to the good stuff. ;-)
      Please all take refund when next time you can log in.. and let me and few others only as customers
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    well one has to wonder what performance we are going to get if you cant get users logged in? 35 servers and they need upgrading after one day?
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    • Profile picture of the author wicked9690
      Originally Posted by cymonguk View Post

      well one has to wonder what performance we are going to get if you cant get users logged in? 35 servers and they need upgrading after one day?
      if they actually had 35 servers this wouldn't have happened. Either that or they are hosted in Mexico.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
    The number of servers seems to change everytime lol
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  • Profile picture of the author 10 legs
    Hi guys
    I got in as a beta tester, I have to say that the customer support and communication has been pretty much non exsistant- as most of you are starting to see for yourselves.
    As for the product itself- in my opinion its just not worth the money, I'll be claiming a refund.
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    • Profile picture of the author toolleather
      10 Legs,
      Why do you say it's not worth it? What issues did you have and where have you been all this time? I've been trying to do research on GCD2 Beta tester reviews to see what many of you all thought before the launch.

      Thanks for the info
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      • Profile picture of the author 10 legs
        Toolleather, heres some feedback on my experiences thus far,
        I had a few technical issues when I first signed up and they were very slow to get back to me- I had to send a few emails on both occasions before I got sorted, and the forum had a number of people complaining about similar problems with the support.Most of the testers seemed to be relative newbies (like myself) and the "walk you through it" approach that was promised was nowhere to be found.
        The only emails I ever got since I joined were a weekly notification of what the webinars were for that week. I found the webinars tedious- never sat through more than 10 mins of any of them.
        That said most of the tutorial videos are very good, both informative and useful. I found a few offers that I felt were worth clonaing, I launched them but they are just about breaking even at this stage.
        And I still cant help feeling that if you do find something really good- how long is it going to before a hundred or a thousand other people find it and cloane it too??? They tell us there's enough to go around, Im not so sure...
        Opps.....Guess thats my subscription cancelled
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      • Profile picture of the author 10 legs
        I forgot to add;
        If you have the dough, you should give it a try, some people will get more use out of it than others, you have 30 days to play with it- If you don't like it you can get a refund, no harm done.
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    • Profile picture of the author toolleather
      Everyone,
      I was just perusing Clickbank and see that they have instituted a New Client contract as of yesterday. (Maybe they heard about GCD 2 launch and are gettting ready for increased trafffic). You can check it out here at your leisure: put the www in fornt of clickbank. clickbank.com/terms.html
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    nope nothing.. nada
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  • Profile picture of the author AndreVas
    Getting a new server requires at least 24-48 hours.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Did anyone else just get the JVs Big Results email? lol
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
    Been almost 5hrs now, and still no joy
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    • Profile picture of the author toolleather
      10 Legs,
      Thanks for the info.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
    I can only hope for better news when I wake up, good night all
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    It's working again for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Are you pressing enter or clicking the button? It's strange but I noticed it works sometimes only if I click the button.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Are there any specifics you want me to mention in the ticket?
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      • Profile picture of the author JunChic
        I'm usually quite calm and "forgiving" given such a IM launch situation, but after my order 36 hours ago and still getting the same message (Thank you for your order....Please stand-by for a confirmation email from us as soon as your account is ready for use.), I don't know whether I should remain confident about the software.

        It doesn't make any sense when we are given the impression that GCD has powerful server to cater a couple of thousands users (Chris said that on his Q&A video). Imagine if we are able to login, say 30% of us (400 to 800 users) hammering the Detective simultaneously scouting for campaigns to "clone," I wonder can GCD handle that.

        Sure, beta testers tested with no problems but I doubt there is 400 users at one time using GCD. I have great hope on "exploiting" GCD but my faith is diminishing as the hour passes by.
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        • Profile picture of the author TexTon
          Banned
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        • Profile picture of the author JunChic
          Originally Posted by ben565 View Post

          give it a week and you might get access then
          One week isn't a problem for me provided I'm only charged when I've the access (not meaning in & out within hours) and NOT when they are sorting things out.
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          • Profile picture of the author cms418
            Think of the launch of a natural disaster or a real bad traffic jam. You can be prepared for the worst always, but remember things bump into one another and bad things can happen when there is an unexpected surge or change. (no matter how prepared you are for disaster the disaster can still occur)

            Chris seems really honest so lets please give him some time and I am sure this will all work out.
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            • Profile picture of the author JunChic
              Originally Posted by cms418 View Post

              Chris seems really honest so lets please give him some time and I am sure this will all work out.
              I'm sure Chris didn't want this to happen just we do. Lucky for us who know how to come here and see what others are having similar dilemma. At least it's some consolation. I can't imagine those who are into this the very first time and know not where to sort for "help."
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              • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
                Originally Posted by JunChic View Post

                I'm sure Chris didn't want this to happen just we do. Lucky for us who know how to come here and see what others are having similar dilemma. At least it's some consolation. I can't imagine those who are into this the very first time and know not where to sort for "help."
                Actually, I am a first-timer, I only found this forum after doing a search on google to see if others were having login problems also lol
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              • Profile picture of the author AffiliateMax
                Originally Posted by JunChic View Post

                I'm sure Chris didn't want this to happen just we do. Lucky for us who know how to come here and see what others are having similar dilemma. At least it's some consolation. I can't imagine those who are into this the very first time and know not where to sort for "help."
                I did not buy GCD, but a lot of people on the PPCClassroom forum were asking about log-in problems, so I posted mentioning this thread (with a link to it) as I thought it might be helpful. However the moderators quickly deleted it - so much for freedom of speech on the PPC Classroom forums! I know it's their forum so their rules but I was just trying to be helpful. Seems any mention of Warrior Forum on there either gets a scathing reply about how you should avoid "forums like that" or it just gets deleted.

                One thing I do know - a lot of people who are fairly new to ppc bought this product and as was pointed out in a couple of excellent posts above you will need deep pockets and some ppc savvy to really make this work...
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            • Profile picture of the author Shift
              Originally Posted by cms418 View Post

              Chris seems really honest so lets please give him some time and I am sure this will all work out.
              He doesn't seem honest at all, look how badly he's treating his clients.
              It's already been a day and a half with no access, and basically non-existent support.

              Not to mention this important point that was noticed -

              Quote:
              Originally Posted by thatmartin
              I really hate to call someone a scammer but...
              When you look at the video again, you will see in his AdWords account that his target URLs pointing directly to CB contain something like "tid=123" but the CB report shows different (meaningful) tid's.
              This means the sales he presented in the video were generated by a different campaign/adgroup.

              Quote:
              Originally Posted by John34
              This is interesting point and i noticed it just now.
              I'm surprised this didn't generate more comments, but after checking myself the adwords url actually ends with "?id=123" not "?tid=123", so the "123" you see does not refer to his clickbank tid. He should have been crucified if he did something like that...
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
    Can't login either, and no further emails either
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    • Profile picture of the author simplicityo
      I can login when I first signed up but after receiving an activation email several hours later, I can't login now

      I tried to send a reply from that email but got "undelivery" message.

      Does anybody know how to contact GCD support or Chris himself via email ?
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      • Profile picture of the author JunChic
        Originally Posted by simplicityo View Post

        Does anybody know how to contact GCD support or Chris himself via email ?
        chriscarpenter.gcd (AT) gmail.com
        gcd.chris (AT) gmail.com

        I'm not sure Chris will have the time to reply (guessing).
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        • Profile picture of the author simplicityo
          Originally Posted by JunChic View Post

          chriscarpenter.gcd (AT) gmail.com
          gcd.chris (AT) gmail.com

          I'm not sure Chris will have the time to reply (guessing).
          I don't think so. this email address origin points to aweber which I believe he use it for broadcast to his list.

          gjpcoach,

          I am in the same situation as you. GCD login worked temporary and I have not heard any word from vikas (PPC Classroom) about the bonus too.
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    yep well 35 hours on not even an email of any kind and no access,and comments deleted from order page blog, which of course seems to work beautifully...
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
    Yep, all the blogs work fine, just comment features got shut off lol
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    erm don't bet on it simplicityo
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  • Profile picture of the author JayStarr
    sheesh I can not believe GCD is still down.. heard it was working now.. Poor Media Temple servers are getting a hammering.. Thats the last time I host my account on the same host as an IM product launch.

    Can someone post on here once they are successfully logged in and using GCD as I am seriously about to purchase this as it does look pretty fab even with the issues it still gets my vote.

    btw.. I want to join under the best bonus offers (naturally) so far the best bonus I have found offers $1000.00 cash & Google advertsing credits. Heres the offer iGCDetective.com | Bonus

    If you know a better bonus offer PM me the link pls.

    PS :I'm glad I did not jump in on day one and buy as I would be pulling my hair out if I paid 2K and could not use GCD for this period of time.
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    • Profile picture of the author JunChic
      Originally Posted by JayStarr View Post

      PS :I'm glad I did not jump in on day one and buy as I would be pulling my hair out if I paid 2K and could not use GCD for this period of time.
      No help here!
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  • Profile picture of the author DonDavis
    I wonder how many thousands of memberships have been sold to this. It is going to be very interesting to watch the adwords on some of the more popular campaigns. Do you figure there are any affiliates out there running these long term, successful clickbank product campaigns that don't know what is about to hit them? Oh boy...

    Folks if paying the price on this thing was a stretch for you, then you are going to be in for a very rude awakening. Do you have any idea how much cash you are going to need to run these adwords? I wouldn't even bother with the CB products as that is where most people will head with this. You are probably going to need to move towards the other affiliate networks to find a product that has the potential to payoff for you.

    The down side of doing so is that you are going to be 4 to 8 weeks out on your commissions with many of these outfits. In the meantime your adwords bill is going to have to be paid, and paid again, and paid again. You better have a credit card with at least a $5k limit and probably closer to $10k if you are really going to make a play with this.

    Adwords is not amateur hour. I am afraid that a lot of people are going to be sorely disappointed when they do finally get into this. I hope they tread lightly before they get in to deep.
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    • Profile picture of the author imoutthere
      Originally Posted by DonDavis View Post

      I wonder how many thousands of memberships have been sold to this. It is going to be very interesting to watch the adwords on some of the more popular campaigns. Do you figure there are any affiliates out there running these long term, successful clickbank product campaigns that don't know what is about to hit them? Oh boy...

      Folks if paying the price on this thing was a stretch for you, then you are going to be in for a very rude awakening. Do you have any idea how much cash you are going to need to run these adwords? I wouldn't even bother with the CB products as that is where most people will head with this. You are probably going to need to move towards the other affiliate networks to find a product that has the potential to payoff for you.

      The down side of doing so is that you are going to be 4 to 8 weeks out on your commissions with many of these outfits. In the meantime your adwords bill is going to have to be paid, and paid again, and paid again. You better have a credit card with at least a $5k limit and probably closer to $10k if you are really going to make a play with this.

      Adwords is not amateur hour. I am afraid that a lot of people are going to be sorely disappointed when they do finally get into this. I hope they tread lightly before they get in to deep.
      This comment is spot on.

      After your initial purchase, you will still need an additional bank roll just to get your ppc campaign running, domain, hosting, monthly membership, auto-responder, etc.. ppc can get out of hand VERY quickly if your not on top of it.

      Most noobs are doomed because they think a redirect will be all you need. Alot of experienced guys will set up a squeeze page/ email capture and then redirect.

      After the hype has worn off and people start getting bored doing the same thing everyday, this product will just sit there and 90% of the IM'ers will be on the next big fad.

      This targets the MMOL niche, This is a good spy tool from the outside, but its definately not noob friendly no matter what he says.
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      • Profile picture of the author JunChic
        FINALLY!!! I got in!
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        • Profile picture of the author JunChic
          I forgot add it is super "delicate," you can't do anything except to watch videos.

          I try to search (using the detective), and was logout. Then login again, only to logout again if I try to click on anything except to watch videos.

          Me happy too soon!
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          • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
            Originally Posted by JunChic View Post

            I forgot add it is super "delicate," you can't do anything except to watch videos.

            I try to search (using the detective), and was logout. Then login again, only to logout again if I try to click on anything except to watch videos.

            Me happy too soon!
            What URL are you going to to login?
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        • Profile picture of the author vencedor08
          You mean you can login now?
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      • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
        I agree with the comments that PPC is not for newbies, I am already running PPC campaigns doing something similar with manual tool checking, I understand about PPC management, controlling, testing, etc.

        I wanted to see if this tool could actually give me efficiencies compared to what I do now, interestingly the training videos talk about maximising profit through landing pages/name squeezing, etc
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      • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
        just to note I am still not in!
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  • Profile picture of the author gjpcoach
    I was able to get in yesterday, before the server maintenance but haven't been able to get in since. This morning I'm getting the need to be added by hand message.

    Not much more we can do though as Chris is obviously aware of the problem. If I get in again I'll come back and post and hopefully we'll find that everyone's in.

    Also, to those who were asking, I signed up through the PPCC bonus and have not heard anything from them either.

    Cheers
    Gillian
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    nope no login for me
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  • Profile picture of the author gjpcoach
    no log in for me either. no news from PPC Classroom either.

    Gillian
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    wow 44 hours
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    8:00am and I STILL can't login to this program. Is anyone else successful at getting in?
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    • Profile picture of the author JunChic
      I'm more worst off than before. Try to login and I got this error message

      A database error occured.
      Error details:
      Page: /index.php
      Query:
      Error:Can't connect to MySQL server on '208.43.208.140' (61)
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    It's working for me on and off.
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    you can see the videos without logging in
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    • Profile picture of the author JunChic
      Originally Posted by cymonguk View Post

      you can see the videos without logging in
      I meant to say training videos...

      Able to do some search, but get kick out once in awhile. Just keep login. That's all for now. Gotta go and get some work done!

      Good luck you guys!
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  • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
    There is some glitch still.
    I can login but after I did keyword search it kick me out - I login again and I can see
    the search results but cannot use them bcz it kick me out every time I try to do
    anything. I have to login again and again.
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    • Profile picture of the author vencedor08
      It seems like this thing gets alive sometimes but is dead at the same time...LOL

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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    I cant, but late last night the login page had a link to the training videos on it, you can see those without logging in
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    • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
      Originally Posted by wealthwind View Post

      OK Now it is working again!
      See you inside guys!
      What url did you use to login in? Every time I go to gcdetective dot com it shows the launch site.
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    • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
      Thanks Yusuf...tried your suggestion...it took me to the login however I couldn't login.
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      • Profile picture of the author Stu784
        So all in all is CC a scammer or is this the real deal?

        I looked into a product called PPC Web Spy earlier this year. It shows you statistics as you search in google.


        If neither of the above are any good in terms of dealing with the creator what product is?
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    yep thats the one I use, no login
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    i doubt chris is a scammer, he appears to have royally fecked this up though, which considering the farce he had with GCD 1 by all accounts makes this particularly bad
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    Anyone get the email about tonight's live conference call? Seriously, I am just laughing at this point. Really...what can I say.

    Classes for beginners?..how about a class on How to log the "F" in!
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    • Profile picture of the author Collegepro
      Once you can log into your account, you can review all the previous live training sessions, so if you miss the one tonight you'll be able to catch up
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  • Profile picture of the author toolleather
    I was able to login, but whenever I do something I get kicked out. Looks like some progress is happening.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    I'm in! Finally!!

    See you there
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Yeah just got it lol... It wasn't as funny as the email about the JV winners telling me about all the gurus who won all the prizes for getting so many people to join.

    I also strangely received an email about how GCD is in Pre launch and how I can be an affiliate.. lol
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  • Profile picture of the author gjpcoach
    hi Michelle

    I'm laughing with you.. Loved your last line.

    And guess what? I'm in again now and it's not logging me out every time I click on something.

    So hopefully, you'll all be in soon. Hoorah, hoorah!.

    Gillian
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  • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
    I just received the following email..Welcome to Google Cash Detective!

    == Your Account Has Been Activated! ==

    Sorry for the little login problem. This morning the servers
    crashed due to all of the traffic, and our login system broke.
    So we had to setup all of your accounts manually.

    Whew my fingers are tired from typing! But we've got you
    all setup and everything is working great now.

    To login please visit:


    I clicked through and was able to login.
    Went to click on "Forum" was booted out.
    Was able to click on the other tabs however I was booted out to the login on every tab I clicked on. However if I clicked on the login I was let into the tab. Very unstable.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    LOL...watch out when you get in..stay on that page because if you click something, you will go back to the login page.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Since I've been able to get in it has been like that.. revolving doors.. and also there is a very short timeout period so make sure you're quick if you get up to go grab a snack or drink! .. lol
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    • Profile picture of the author vencedor08
      Yehaaaaaaaa!...I am Finally in
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      • Profile picture of the author Collegepro
        Just received this email

        THIS WEEKS FREE CONFERENCES ARE AS FOLLOWS :
        MONDAY - 8 AM GCD BEGINNER CLASSES
        TUESDAY - 7 PM GCD ADVANCED- (How You Beat The Competition)

        WEDNESDAY -
        SPECIAL 8 AM GCD Beginner Class
        7 PM CLICKBANK ( We are a part of the GREATEST business in the world)
        T O N IG H T ***
        THURSDAY - 7 PM GCA STEP BY STEP
        FRIDAY 8 AM GCD OPEN DIALOG ( BRING YOUR QUESTIONS WE'LL BE THERE TO HELP)
        If you are looking to attend one of our classes, please keep these instructions !!
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        • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
          Originally Posted by Collegepro View Post

          Just received this email

          THIS WEEKS FREE CONFERENCES ARE AS FOLLOWS :
          MONDAY - 8 AM GCD BEGINNER CLASSES
          TUESDAY - 7 PM GCD ADVANCED- (How You Beat The Competition)

          WEDNESDAY -
          SPECIAL 8 AM GCD Beginner Class
          7 PM CLICKBANK ( We are a part of the GREATEST business in the world)
          T O N IG H T ***
          THURSDAY - 7 PM GCA STEP BY STEP
          FRIDAY 8 AM GCD OPEN DIALOG ( BRING YOUR QUESTIONS WE'LL BE THERE TO HELP)
          If you are looking to attend one of our classes, please keep these instructions !!
          I received that email 2 days ago and again today, 15 minutes ago. I have asked the sender to give dates as a dumb Aussie I want to know where they are with this schedule of classes. I still haven't received an answer from the sender.
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  • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
    It once is working and then stop to work and then, in 5-10 minutes, it is working again.
    It is still pretty raw product.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Really it looks like he launched too early, maybe to compete with other PPC products out there right now I'm not sure. But besides the mass control style launch and checkout page, he looks unprepared in all senses.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    Texton, I don't view it as a "fix all" I hope to add it to the other tools that I use and learn from it. I too have "been had" but I've learned along the way, and I am not out anything because I didn't purchase anything that didn't offer a refund if it failed to perform as promised.
    We shall see..
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  • Profile picture of the author Mimdoc
    I own it, listened to videos, found only minimal clickbank campaigns to follow, tried to duplicate one of them using two ads and tested with direct link, my own landing page, and forward url. So far I am at negative $80 and the only click throughs were from my landing page adgroup campaign. All those highly traffic keywords, well from 54 tried, only 4 brought traffic. This is after 5 days of testing. Alas, more hype than not - IMHO as an active user. I was REALLY disappointed with the keyword selection as it showed high traffic on GCD (over 10k) but brought no traffic after 5 days on most of those words. And I had 1.5 ad position.
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      • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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        Originally Posted by mrskeptical View Post

        Howdy Folks,

        I am one of the noobs that everyone often talks about. Maybe all yal experienced types can tell me if I wasted my grand on GCD. Ya see, J Paul and C. carpenter talk about the massive amounts of profitable campains they find in five minutes.

        Well, I watched the videos 3-6 times each, then started doing KW reasearch, and Click bank fb URL research and after 4-5 12 hour days of exhaustive KW research, literally glued to my computer, breaking only to pis, opps, scuse me, urinate, researchin at least 1000 KW, I ain't found Didly. Do you folks know the Didly sisters? You know the one's that married the Squat and Shit fellows?

        Anyway, am I doin somthin wrong? Must be cuse I know Didly Squat pretty well, but have not had the pleasure of meeting her brother Jack.

        Sorry for the off sided humor, but I was planning to spend that grand on a couple of easy red heads, and now I may have to go without.

        Mr sleptical
        If you PM me I'll let you know my experience - which in short is I've made 7 sales but it's cost me an arm and a leg.
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        • Profile picture of the author mbpage9
          My experience is very negative. The training sucks. No structure, no strategy no plan. Chris talks about posting many videos in "How to find products to promote". This was made back in January and he has added no more to the training database since.

          Since launch I've experienced problems logging in, the search url function refuses to work, slideshow results are mixed.

          I did receive one reply to a ticket which stated the system had been attacked by users using automated scripts but really. No site updates, no forum and I'm out $2,000 with a currently unusable system.

          If things don't change soon Chris's reputation will be in tatters.

          Mike
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          • Profile picture of the author JohnDow
            Except for the forum and support answers everything seems to work fine...
            A major leak from my point of view is that the detective is only able to crawl google.com. 1 (englisch) keyword had a monthly search volume of 22.000 on google.de but only 90 on .com. So I can't find a campain to clone for my own product...
            This is probably a reason for a refund.
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            • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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              Originally Posted by JohnDow View Post

              Except for the forum and support answers everything seems to work fine...
              A major leak from my point of view is that the detective is only able to crawl google.com. 1 (englisch) keyword had a monthly search volume of 22.000 on google.de but only 90 on .com. So I can't find a campain to clone for my own product...
              This is probably a reason for a refund.
              You kidding me? Forum - missing. Support - missing. Promised bonus of Google Cash Rewards Rubbish - missing. Blog - missing (its just a static web page). Blog page says "send us an email by clicking here - we will make it worth your while" (hyperlink) - dead link. Home Page - "we invite you to contribute your thoughts, concerns and even your best kept secrets through our "Contact Page" - another dead link. On the home page too.

              What does that tell you? These guys haven't a clue. They're so busy grabbing the money they've forgotten the basic tenet of any marketing - "The customer is King".

              Oh yeah finally got a reply (after trying for 5 days) from the unsupported "Support" requesting a Refund. This time I labeled it a "Technical" question and headed it "Earth to Chris Carpenter".

              They replied in part "I see you are requesting a refund. We would happily refund you, but we first want to find out if there is something we can do to help you. When you purchased GCD I'm sure you had the dream of making extra money online to supplement or replace your income. I'm just trying to figure out what has happened between then and now."

              Love that bit. Then more waffle ending with

              "Just let us know what is missing and we can see if we can help you."

              As it happens I did let them know what was missing but apparently no-one gives a rats' rear end.

              "As far as the forum, as soon as it is restrctured (stet) it will reopen. We are committed to haveing a member's forum."

              Bear in mind this isn't a $97 ebook we're talking about. This is $350 four times over the year (for 67% of their clients) plus another $97 a month plus whatever it is they shaft you for the Google Automator thingey. All up at least $2600.

              What were you saying again?
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              • Profile picture of the author cambric
                Just an update:

                Support has gotten tons better! I was 'double' charged and Scott got involved and I got my 2nd charge refunded already; I've asked for a full refund and I've received a personal email telling me it has been processed and expect it within 3-5 business days!

                Whew...was scared after reading so many horror stories.

                I do hope for the best on those staying; maybe a lot will make a ton of money, good for them...but my experience, from what my expectations were, wasn't good and I'm happy to get my refunds and be done with it.

                Good luck to all those that stayed!!
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              • Metronicity,

                Don't wait for their forum to come back. If you want to discuss GCD -- both positive and negative, no frickin censorship -- come to

                Index :: Google Cash Detective Independent Forum

                and let it all out. This is not associated with GCD in any way, so you basically express your opinion, as long as you don't violate their ToS.

                Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

                You kidding me? Forum - missing. Support - missing. Promised bonus of Google Cash Rewards Rubbish - missing. Blog - missing (its just a static web page). Blog page says "send us an email by clicking here - we will make it worth your while" (hyperlink) - dead link. Home Page - "we invite you to contribute your thoughts, concerns and even your best kept secrets through our "Contact Page" - another dead link. On the home page too.

                What does that tell you? These guys haven't a clue. They're so busy grabbing the money they've forgotten the basic tenet of any marketing - "The customer is King".

                Oh yeah finally got a reply (after trying for 5 days) from the unsupported "Support" requesting a Refund. This time I labeled it a "Technical" question and headed it "Earth to Chris Carpenter".

                They replied in part "I see you are requesting a refund. We would happily refund you, but we first want to find out if there is something we can do to help you. When you purchased GCD I'm sure you had the dream of making extra money online to supplement or replace your income. I'm just trying to figure out what has happened between then and now."

                Love that bit. Then more waffle ending with

                "Just let us know what is missing and we can see if we can help you."

                As it happens I did let them know what was missing but apparently no-one gives a rats' rear end.

                "As far as the forum, as soon as it is restrctured (stet) it will reopen. We are committed to haveing a member's forum."

                Bear in mind this isn't a $97 ebook we're talking about. This is $350 four times over the year (for 67% of their clients) plus another $97 a month plus whatever it is they shaft you for the Google Automator thingey. All up at least $2600.

                What were you saying again?
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              • Profile picture of the author JohnDow
                Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

                You kidding me? Forum - missing. Support - missing. Promised bonus of Google Cash Rewards Rubbish - missing. Blog - missing (its just a static web page). Blog page says "send us an email by clicking here - we will make it worth your while" (hyperlink) - dead link. Home Page - "we invite you to contribute your thoughts, concerns and even your best kept secrets through our "Contact Page" - another dead link. On the home page too.

                Bear in mind this isn't a $97 ebook we're talking about. This is $350 four times over the year (for 67% of their clients) plus another $97 a month plus whatever it is they shaft you for the Google Automator thingey. All up at least $2600.

                What were you saying again?
                Don't get me wrong... I'm one your site.
                Meanwhile I'm out. All went smoothly. No probs.
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    • Profile picture of the author Craig Beckta
      Keep us posted on your results.

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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    Now that I'm in, you can't get into the forum. Is anyone else having luck with that?
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    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      Any new developments with Google CRASH Defective 2.0 yet?

      Im sure this will all work itself out and sorry for my little play on words. This looks like a pretty damn nice tool if they could get it al lto work. Ive been anxiously looking for success stories from people in the know on PPC.

      Im know nada about PPc and dont have a disposable bankroll yet to test the waters - so Im watching at this point.

      Here's an idea ... If you know product creation, what about watching these popular campaigns and making a BETTER product of your own to sell to all the affiliates cloning campaigns?

      Seems like this software will be a huge boon to all the product sellers on CB . CJ etc... 100's more affiliates cloning campaigns [likely the product creators own affiliate campaigns no less! ]

      Also - I never qas quite able to make the mental leap that - just because a campaign runs for a period of time that it converts and is "profitable".

      Is that just a GIVEN in hte PPC game?

      In business Im not sure its wise to bank on others NOT being stupid?
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      • Profile picture of the author DonDavis
        Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post


        Also - I never qas quite able to make the mental leap that - just because a campaign runs for a period of time that it converts and is "profitable".

        Is that just a GIVEN in hte PPC game?

        No, it certainly isn't.
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  • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
    It became pretty quite here. GCD2 is working and it looks like everybody is in and digging GCD2 to the T.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    It should be working now for everyone. If anyone still has trouble logging in make sure they email gcdlogin AT gmail.com.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    Getting in isn't the problem now. It's full of glitches, and quite frankly...I'm frustrated as heck.
    1.I can't get into the forum, 2.Every time you go to a different place it takes you back to the login screen, 3. Pick a bunch of keywords and tell me what happens when you go to add them! Talk about pulling your hair out...waste of time, going to research the old "tried and true" way.

    I hope they work this mess out soon
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    • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
      I got in on the beta tester stage but custard pied it after two weeks, its prob a good tool if your already a PPC expert however i cloned a successful campaign and never showed a profit, plus there were loads of urls i tried to run through and was showing no data, i just had no confidence in the product, all fur coat and no knickers this one
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  • Profile picture of the author Shabbir
    hey i am really very disappointed with GDC2...not even a single positive experience about it till now mentioned here..or is it too early?

    Was not expecting this from Chris..
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
    I can get in now, but like others have said, just as quickly get logged back out again, ho-hum
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    • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
      Originally Posted by newbeginnings View Post

      GCD 2 is definitely not worth the price. Why would you want to clone campaigns? I would MUCH MUCH rather learn PPC not clone. I feel the only purpose to buy this is to give in to the hype befcause you are lazy. The world is full of suckers! Good luck with all you poor folks that buy this! Hope there is a ONE YEAR return policy.

      I cloned an exact campaign from the videos and LOST money! Beware!
      I don't know why you would want to judge or "stereo type" people who buy GCD as lazy, I think that's rude, and if I read your post correctly, you actually admit to cloning a campaign from the video..So what does that make you? The pot calling the kettle black?
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        • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
          Originally Posted by newbeginnings View Post

          P.S. Damn it's so easy to sell CRAP to people...I NEED to get a product out that won't be crap and then retire.
          Aren't you asking for a refund now? HA!
          Again you judge! I am not requesting a refund because I am some "lazy" "poor" "newbie" that wants to clone and become rich overnight! I am not any of those things as you presume! I like many others here, purchased this product in hope that it would be an excellent resource tool for helping in researching so we could worker smarter, not harder. At this time, it has to many glitches that I personally don't have the patience to wait out until they are resolved.

          You obviously are interested as well, or I don't think you would be in here posting and reading..correct? Or maybe you prey on people that make a bad decision, so you can be rude and unprofessional by calling them names, whatever the case.

          Get your "product out that won't be crap" and let us know..maybe I'll take a look at it.
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  • Profile picture of the author WhosMaverick
    Here's an idea ... If you know product creation, what about watching these popular campaigns and making a BETTER product of your own to sell to all the affiliates cloning campaigns?
    Bingo!

    I cloned an exact campaign from the videos and LOST money! Beware!
    Cloning does NOT guarantee success....
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  • Profile picture of the author toolleather
    I just got kicked out and can't get back in.
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  • Profile picture of the author evertd
    I feel fortunate that I've been able to log in and play around since last night. But I've got to say that I am concerned about the questions I'm seeing during the live training sessions. It seems like a lot of people bought into this thinking it's going to be a get rich quick system. And a lot of the people who bought into this don't even know the first thing about PPC or even clickbank. There was even somebody who asked what Adwords is. That's scary.
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    as mentioned this is not a panacea, and I agree PPC is not a newbie playground. What it can do is give you information faster than you can collate yourself manually.

    People need to understand basics like:

    campaign mgt
    bid mgt
    keyword research
    due diligence

    get a ppc course and use this to reduce the speed to "market"
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    • Profile picture of the author ben565
      looks like gcd has crashed again when i try to login i get this error message

      Scheduled Maintenance... Please Check Back in 2 To 3 Hours

      Even though i got an email from chris a few hours ago saying that everything
      is fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
    Back to this again: Scheduled Maintenance... Please Check Back in 2 To 3 Hours

    While you are waiting please check out our latest training videos
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    • Profile picture of the author Unexpected Error
      Originally Posted by mikeperriss View Post

      Back to this again: Scheduled Maintenance... Please Check Back in 2 To 3 Hours

      While you are waiting please check out our latest training videos
      Yep, just tried to log in. This is fast becoming an absolute FARCE!
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    looked like they were getting issues again

    i have got out of bed for this
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    • Profile picture of the author toolleather
      I got the same scheduled maintenance message. Bummer:confused:. Hopefully they will get these issues fixed really fast, this is not looking good for the home team, if you know what I mean!!
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    I am over this...totally!
    Next time I log in, it will be straight for the support ticket, asking for a refund.

    Best of luck to all of you who stay in there..hope ya make lots of money for all the aggravation that came with this over priced headache!
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
    Now I get nothing at all: members.gcdetective.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again.
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    • Profile picture of the author JunChic
      It's only been up 12 hours, and now they are...

      Scheduled Maintenance... Please Check Back in 2 To 3 Hours
      While you are waiting please check out our latest training videos
      Too many glitches!!! And a little disorganize. Funny is that I have the forum to access to while they're doing maintenance.

      evertd;
      I have to agree with you after watching some of the training videos and forum posts, a lot of newbies know not what they are getting themselves into. Indeed, very scary. I hope they come to their senses before the part their hard earned money.

      I, myself, quite green in Adwords but not in AM, nevertheless I don't go in with intention of PPC marketing only. I found a couple of potential niches that are worth building either create a better product or write a better "review" site/blog, PPC potential is there (I can't say for sure until I bid on them).

      What I want to say is, at the end of the day we still need to create a landing page (website/blog) after we found potential product to promote and ran successful campaigns if we intend to milk more $$$ out of the comm in the long term. Instead of looking at short term gains (mentality), if any, have foresight.

      To be earning comm. through AM is no different than any brick and mortal biz. It needs due diligence and perserverance. What GCD, and other spytools, does is to help you find "profitable" niches faster. And if you have extra dough to thrash, then you might learn faster then the conventional way.

      Just keep your mind open to more possiblities!
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
    Just need to wait and see what the day brings, good night all
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    • Profile picture of the author JunChic
      Just wanna let you guys know, I'm in again.
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      • Profile picture of the author Collegepro
        Yep - it's up and running - but for how long?
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        • Profile picture of the author JunChic
          Maybe it is a good idea to just get refund. The time I spent login and get booted out isn't worth it. During this time, I didn't much work done.

          I think it would be better if we let Chris take a breather and ask for refund in a few days time. Just a thought!
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  • Profile picture of the author steveka
    I hope there's a membership cancellation link for a refund. If you have to email him to do this as it was mentioned in his video, well, good luck with that!
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  • Profile picture of the author jhollar
    My friend signed up to GCD and he mentioned that there's utter chaos on the forums...

    tons of new people with questions, login problems, frequent maintenance windows etc etc - and not a single moderator to answer these questions. Funny enough, there has been no sign of Chris on the forum for 3 days.

    It's weird that someone's spending so much time trying to push JVs to sell, when he should be on the inside helping people who forked out $1K or $2K to get access to the guy....

    Not good at all....
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    • Profile picture of the author sunny56
      Wow guys....I really don't understand all the hating? I see it for EVERY launch...(This thread being a good example, but IM forums in general too).

      It's like this strong desire to see someone fail is just vibrating through the thread, everyone waiting to jump like hyenas on the slightest mistake, or misstep...

      Try turning the tables...

      & Think of it this way ... You spend nearly 2 years and over $300k, (assuming all figures are true) building a complex software that manages a huge amount of data.

      You decide the price should be somewhat prohibitive because you don't want the market getting flooded for your customers, (and maybe don't want to deal with newbie support too much...Oh ya, and you want to make bank, but who can blame u?).

      You've done everything to test and test and test again, and opened up to a beta group all without a hitch....

      And then all at once your shiny new system is getting hit with hundreds, or even thousands of new accounts, and people all testing what it can do adn pounding it for data and help and URL's....

      There's bound to be some stumbles at the beginning, and some unforseen difficulties.... Give the guy a break...

      Any one of us here could VERY easily be in the same boat, I don't think I've ever seen a Big launch go off hitch free...Have you?

      Peril of the industry I guess...

      Regardless....The whining does not speed anything up, (I know it's hard to believe, when it feels SO productive, but really....I've done tests....)

      I mean, you have a month to check it out, try it, and then get a refund if you still want to....I understand it's frustrating when your new miracle software doesn't work perfectly, immediately out of the gates, but like...

      ~~ *Chillax* ya'll ~~

      What is it they say about "Patience"...and "Virtues" ...again?

      Besides, if you jump the gun and refund now you might be missing out on something really cool...?...?...Just a thought...

      All 'da best,

      Sunny
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  • Profile picture of the author Guru
    Originally Posted by aclacy View Post

    is there a way (link) to join the GCD affiliate program?
    after u login in gcd its on the right hand side at the top


    well said sunny56
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    I agree with comments in here the number of people who don't even know how to set up ad campaigns and want a step by step guide on building a profitable campaign scares the bejeezus out of me.

    I can see dozens of people who have thrown up ads recently presumably after getting GCD. What they don't understand and haven't picked up on is some stuff in the videos from prelaunch, where chris talks about not following the tide, etc

    Some people are going to lose a shed load of money
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    On the tool itself it's very good but you need to have more knowledge, it certainly has mad my decision making quicker on campaigns to do. I can see campaigns where a great new landing page with squeeze will sell , and some direct linking campaigns
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    • Profile picture of the author bbyau
      Hi Cymonguk,
      So you are able to log in now ? Is everything "normal" now for GCD 2 ?
      I was waiting to get in when things are back to "normal".
      Thanks !
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    yes today at the moment things seem to be working fine and pretty quick
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    and just as I say that it falls over
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    • Profile picture of the author Guru
      its working fine for me..
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      • Profile picture of the author bbyau
        So, for those of you who can log in, are you "happy" with the features of the system ? Is it as what you expect it to be ?
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        • Profile picture of the author Guru
          Originally Posted by bbyau View Post

          So, for those of you who can log in, are you "happy" with the features of the system ? Is it as what you expect it to be ?
          i think i am happy user but yes i am bit advance user of ppc.

          if there are people who are very new to PPC/IM and they are thinking they can just log in and start making money in few days, is not possible. tool will help you to do things quicker but you need to know the basics of ppc.
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    honestly when I say newbies on there they really are, even down to not knowing about hosting, ftp, landing pages, etc

    Lots of people asking for step by step instruction
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    Has anyone asked for a refund and been able to get a response?
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  • Profile picture of the author WhosMaverick
    Do the ppc classroom bonuses even exist? I havent heard from them and I *still* cant get in to GCD...not even ONCE yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author imoutthere
    Ther are 2 winners in this, obviously cc will be and google will make a killin too.

    All on bidding wars because of the noobs who will redirect without there own domain.

    Looks like a good time to invest in google stock.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Elliott
    GCD is not a PPC bonus - click on bonus within the PPC Classroom site and partner bonus.

    GCD is simply to make money, I dont think for a secound he put a high price on it so it 'wouldnt get flooded'

    Not to mention Chris was telling us over and over again that they have MUTLIPLE SERVERS so there will be no down time as they can update it and still run it on another server.

    Just because he sent 300k doesnt mean its any good. At my work the 'experts' got paid Millions on software that took over 6 years to get right!!
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    • Profile picture of the author bbyau
      I was wondering that Chris has offered Google Cash 4 for PPC Classroom members (under partner bonus). But somehow this has not been fulfilled. Not sure if anyone from PPC Classroom was able to get the Google Cash 4 from Chris ?
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      • Profile picture of the author Shift
        Originally Posted by bbyau View Post

        I was wondering that Chris has offered Google Cash 4 for PPC Classroom members (under partner bonus). But somehow this has not been fulfilled. Not sure if anyone from PPC Classroom was able to get the Google Cash 4 from Chris ?
        It consists of some videos.

        When you go to the partner bonuses section and clicked on that bonus you should've signed up to his `newsletter'.
        That's what I did and how I got the link to the videos weeks ago (but haven't watched them yet).

        Let me know if that helps.
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        • Profile picture of the author bbyau
          Hi Shift,
          Thanks ! I tried that. Looks like Chris has fulfilled his offer on Google Cash 4 for PPC Classroom members.
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      • Profile picture of the author Brad101
        So, are there any GCD fanatics? Does anyone have version 1 of this tool?
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    • Profile picture of the author rhj12345
      Just got GCD last night, this is all I get. Got Email back from support, but nothing works.

      Still down at 12:45 MST

      A database error occured.
      Error details:
      Page: /members/login.php
      Query:
      Error:Can't connect to MySQL server on '208.43.208.136' (111)

      Bummer!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    He's saying the GC4 Home Study Course videos are under training... yeah, the one with 4 videos and the message: "More videos coming soon (honestly!)" lol

    On the other page with all of the bonuses after purchasing it says: "
    Please note - we have many more videos to upload, and you can access our collection from your GCD/GCA membership portal."

    And then there's the 12 Landing Page Templates... wait, make that only 2 for now.. still being worked on!

    And then there is Google Cash Revolution! Check out the message: "The Google Cash Revolution package is almost ready (honestly!) It contains over 500 pages of quality ebook material, MP3s, videos, software, scrips and more. (Further information will be announced by the end of March)"

    Notice:
    "Further information will be announced by the end of March" not "GCR will be released by the end of March" And what is the end of March? Well, it's like the week before the 30 day trial ends..

    One thing I've gotten from GCD so far is some additional laughter on a daily basis.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    I have tried to request a refund
    1. I emailed with all the information...no response!
    2. I sent in a "high" priority support ticket...no response!
    3. I called the number that shows on the charge...you can only leave a message...no return phone call!
    WTH? Has anyone requested a refund and got any response at all?? Please answer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
    The idea was a good one, but it looks like from this thread that things didn't go so well.
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    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      Does it even work yet? Anyone?

      Side note:

      If you dont own the software - then I suggest you STFU already unless you've actually used and have something to add... if not - youre full of crap for one thing and violating the spirit of the forums guidelines.

      Dont bag on other warriors stuff you havent used or own or tried.

      Tired of reading the inane drivel of people who havent used it or tried saying how it CANNOT work.

      Clearly there was problems. Surely they will get sorted? Its still too early to tell.

      I look forward to REAL Users feedback soon.
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      • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
        Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

        Does it even work yet? Anyone?

        Side note:

        If you dont own the software - then I suggest you STFU already unless you've actually used and have something to add... if not - youre full of crap for one thing and violating the spirit of the forums guidelines.

        Dont bag on other warriors stuff you havent used or own or tried.

        Tired of reading the inane drivel of people who havent used it or tried saying how it CANNOT work.

        Clearly there was problems. Surely they will get sorted? Its still too early to tell.

        I look forward to REAL Users feedback soon.
        Thank you! I gladly will tell you that, it does have some issues. A lot of glitches and bugs that need to be worked out. I personally tried to use it yesterday, when I was able to login. I spent far too much time getting booted out, and things not loading properly. Time is money, and I wasted far too much of it thus far.

        In my opinion, it should have not launched until these issues were tested over and over. It's price tag was far to high for the disaster kick off.
        I personally am just not happy with it, and have no patience to wait it out when I have so much money invested.

        I'm sure for those who hang in there, you may get some positive feedback.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    As far as I can see once you get in, it does seem to do everything Chris demonstrated in the pre-launch videos. The main complaints are:

    1. the lack of being able to get logged in or stay logged
    2. the lack of any serious organized training for the automator or detective
    3. certain aspects are incomplete as I mentioned above with the GC4 videos, LPs and GCR course

    With all that said I could imagine how those who are PPC veterans and know the ins-and-outs of setting up, tracking and maintaining campaigns, etc. have already made a few thousand... but I guess lets wait for those testimonials.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Elliott
    There is already heaps products that do the same thing, but with less of a price tag and some have even free functions such as keyword spy. Keyword spy time generator is for and gives me enough info to copy someones ads if i want.

    Oh and Chris free training videos for PPC Clssroom members are only promo videos for GGD. All videos hes showing how great it is. At the end of the day GGD tell you that someone has run a campaign 95/100 days and that means its making money? Not quite.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Email gcdlogin@gmail.com and tell them if you haven't already... it might help.
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    • Profile picture of the author rhj12345
      Thanks for the help, but nobodys home. Here is a phone number from there Policy Page.

      Phone number not in service. I am not mad, I would just like to use this product today. This is a lot of money for me and it was a giant leap of faith to go for it. :confused:

      With all of our products you receive a 30 day no questions asked, 100% money back guarantee. If you are unhappy with any of our products and want to receive your refund , you can call our customer service department at 866-654-0760, or E-mail us at support-team @ gcdetective.com.

      I do not want this guy getting a bad rap, so when it comes up, I will post.


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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Hmm... yeah, the number is not working.. err.. here's his number from the whois for gcdetective.com - 435-658-5057. If you want try that and let us know what happens.
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    • Profile picture of the author newbeginnings
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      • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
        Originally Posted by newbeginnings View Post

        Is that a number in Mexico?
        Not unless Salt Lake City has now become a part of Mexico. Maybe it's a Vonage number? lol
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    Your support request was sent successfully, we will answer as soon as possible.

    This is what you will see when you send in a support ticket. But you will not get a response asap, I promise that!
    I got 50 dang emails a day trying to sell it to me, now it's like a ghost town.

    If anyone has been able to get any support, I would appreciate hearing it, I'm getting a bit concerned.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    Well..I finally got a response to my email...just an fyi
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    How was the response? Just curious no problem if you don't want to share.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    I asked for a refund and this is what I got...

    Many support departments for many companies take 48-72 hours more to answer support requests particularly with a new lauunch. No one is ignoring you. Why is it you feel so unsatisfied. These are some very very successful marketers with a top notch research and development team, lots of resources, and a desire (via evidence of the coaching & videos & blogs & more) to honestly help their members. That is hard to In fact, where else could that be found. We would hate to see you go as we are proud of our product and have the team to make it very very special and a history of doing exactly that and more. We are focused on the prize and it will be a great ride for all of us.

    Hmmmm...no mention of my refund though
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    • Profile picture of the author rhj12345
      A database error occured.
      Error details:
      Page: /members/login.php
      Query:
      Error:Can't connect to MySQL server on '208.43.208.136' (111)

      Still down 2:35 MST - No response from tech support.

      Well, thats, OK. When my wife finds out I was taken for $2000, I am dead anyway.

      .................Hello, Capital One, I would like to report some activity on my credit card?..................crap.
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    • Profile picture of the author John34
      Originally Posted by Michele Whitley View Post

      I asked for a refund and this is what I got...

      Many support departments for many companies take 48-72 hours more to answer support requests particularly with a new lauunch. No one is ignoring you. Why is it you feel so unsatisfied. These are some very very successful marketers with a top notch research and development team, lots of resources, and a desire (via evidence of the coaching & videos & blogs & more) to honestly help their members. That is hard to In fact, where else could that be found. We would hate to see you go as we are proud of our product and have the team to make it very very special and a history of doing exactly that and more. We are focused on the prize and it will be a great ride for all of us.

      Hmmmm...no mention of my refund though
      Open a dispute/chargeback from your bank (bank which gave u credit card).
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      • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
        Originally Posted by John34 View Post

        Open a dispute/chargeback from your bank (bank which gave u credit card).
        Already doing that, the point is...I shouldn't have to!
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  • Profile picture of the author danhughes
    As a general rule I am not one to jump on the latest Guru offer. Based on the videos it's capabilities looked really good. Haha.. my other test is to watch the video with the sound down.... if a product still looks good without pitch then maybe it is...

    3 days in and *** GC Detective Rocks The Free World *** . I *will* be canceling KeywordSpy and will probably cancel KeyCompete.

    If you mainly sell Clickbank products, this probably is NOT the product for you.
    If you do regular CPA then you better buy this FAST.

    Clickbank:
    So there are about 38k results for Clickbank. I haven't dug through them all yet (obviously, lol) but I have made a good dent. There are not that many results that make want to suddenly start pushing an offer. But, IMO that's because direct-linking to typical Clickbank products is a tough sell at best. Obviously it can be done, but in my case the ROI / ROEffort has never made it worth it.

    The examples in the videos for cellphone detective / government records etc are not typical clickbank products.
    1) They're cheap.
    2) Their #1 USP is immediately and easily communicable.
    So there is little chance of someone shopping around and it's easy for the prospect to believe that the product can deliver what they want.
    It's really hard to convince someone you have no relationship with that they will be a millionaire by Thursday or that Tiger Woods will be calling them for Golf tips by the end of the summer.

    Regular CPA:
    Oh where to start.....
    I am amazed how many people direct link! There are plenty to choose from... I found a direct link that has a PI of 59k!!! I realize that number is subjective at best, but certainly ad / keyword tenure is a good indicator for success especially if it comes from an affiliate.

    But for me that is not the real power behind GC Detective...
    When you find well performing Keywords / Ads it's pretty simple of find other offers that are being run by that Affiliate.

    If your smart you'll be able to come up with a bunch of clues in an Ad URL that will help you find some really actionable data. For example... I'll tell you that Brad Callen is cleaning up with the phrase "Michigan SEO Services" ... well, he would be if anyone actually searched on it... but when they do, he cleans up .

    Final Thoughts:
    The data is *crazy* fresh... As in a few hours old.
    It's easy to use and understand.
    It's not soo easy to use that total newbs will suck up the power of this tool anytime soon (I hope).

    Competitive Intelligence products are getting really good. It's almost to the point that someone / network / agency is gonna have to do something about this.
    Oh... and if you're selling "Totally Hide My Affiliate A$$" ... I'm buying!
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    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      Oh... and if you're selling "Totally Hide My Affiliate A$$" ... I'm buying!
      Is this referring to an affiliate link cloaking or similar product?
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      • Profile picture of the author danhughes
        Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

        Is this referring to an affiliate link cloaking or similar product?
        I wish it was that easy. I cloak, I use SSL (both of which make it harder to prove your legitimacy to Affiliate networks). At the end of the day these tools are SERP scraping. If I human can click it, then a spider can follow it. Not to mention that there is almost always something in the URL that gives you more information. Affiliate ID's, refereral URL, the name of the folder of the script your using. The only things I can think of are expiring links or some kind of distraction /fake link tactic. With both of those you can pretty much give up on Google ever selling you an affordable click.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Mention that the guarantee says no questions asked if necessary.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    Maybe the support team is busy reading the post inside the GCD forum from pissed off people who would like to know why it's a ghost town inside there, with no help or responses.

    Trust me, I'm not the only disappointed buyer.
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    • Profile picture of the author JunChic
      Originally Posted by Michele Whitley View Post

      Trust me, I'm not the only disappointed buyer.
      Me too!

      I wanted to give Chris the benefit of the doubt but as things are going the way it's now....look bleak. I smell rats. I asked for refund a day ago and no response. I guess I will be calling my CC about the dispute.

      Compare to the complaints here and GCD, here is by far nicer. In GCD forum, under the frustrated thread, many unhappy campers there.
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      • Profile picture of the author JunChic
        Oh, I forgot to add, for those who bought it on the day of launch and intend to stay.... just so you know, you are charged from the day you purchased regardless how many days you don't have access to GCD.

        Check under your account under billing.
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        • Profile picture of the author steveka
          You might screw things up and that's understandable at some point, as long as you have the intention to fix these things. If he would have emailed people right off the bat (which he is really good at when the subject is about selling something) and apologized, i am pretty much sure that the pressure would not be this high. But he didn't do that. Because probably he is too busy with drinking mojitos and surfing in Mexico.

          Besides, why are you hiding the submit ticket link behind the login page? You have the potential to come up with an idea and your software guys are capable of creating a complicated software, but they are not capable of thinking a very simple thing like "wait, how the customers are gonna communicate with us if they can't login" ? Yeah, right... I guess i am just gonna stay away from all chris carpenter products, eventhough his claim would be about how to print money on demand legally. Well unless he offers 6 months free trial with zero down
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      • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
        Originally Posted by JunChic View Post

        Me too!

        I wanted to give Chris the benefit of the doubt but as things are going the way it's now....look bleak. I smell rats. I asked for refund a day ago and no response. I guess I will be calling my CC about the dispute.

        Compare to the complaints here and GCD, here is by far nicer. In GCD forum, under the frustrated thread, many unhappy campers there.
        Your not kidding! I just read the thread, and trust me..it's very nice and polite here compared to inside the GCD forum. Funny thing is...no support, no Chris to be found in the forum AS promised in the pre-launch pitch!
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        • Profile picture of the author JunChic
          Originally Posted by Michele Whitley View Post

          Your not kidding! I just read the thread, and trust me..it's very nice and polite here compared to inside the GCD forum. Funny thing is...no support, no Chris to be found in the forum AS promised in the pre-launch pitch!
          Called my CCC, and they will investigate. But I can only dispute it after 30days of purchase with all the supported documents that the sellers aren't responsive. You bet I will, plus yours Michele and others'.

          The consolation I got from my CCC is that I don't have to pay when my statement comes.
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    • Profile picture of the author bbyau
      I have been "sold" by all the hypes surrounding this product. But with so many inputs and comments (negative one), will have to pass this one up !
      The worst one is the "No questions asked Refund". How are we going to get it if we have to send email or even getting response like Michele mentioned ?
      For PPC Classroom, we can cancel the membership within the membership area.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    I have sent in three tickets, and at least a dozen emails...NO response. I received the one smarta** email that I posted...I replied and not a word.
    I can chalk this up to a lesson learned...shame on me.

    On to the CC company to file the dispute...what a frigging mess!

    I hope Chris knows that if he doesn't get off his ___ and make this right, his name is MUD so he better hope he never wants to peddle another product!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author vencedor08
      I have asked for a refund also but untill now no one has replied yet. I still believe that things will get better
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Looks like it wasn't a joke when I said earlier that we may need another type of detective ... hope this works out for everyone, as well as for those of us trying to hold on and pull through.
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  • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
    So Chris is "out to lunch" when it comes to GCD issues. He is very on the ball though when it comes to promoting other products. Anybody else received his latest email spruiking Mike of the Butterfly club? Why doesn't he acknowledge that this launch has been a monumental stuff up? I made a conscious decision to take the 4 payment option 2 so I could see what was going to be delivered. Glad I did because with the Aussie dollar in the "can" it cost me $860 for payment 1. I learned my lesson on the Arbitrage C debacle and got my refund without a hassle because I had kept their ORIGINAL guarantee. I have Chris's too and intend using it if he doesn't offer a cogent arguement for his lack of response to our concerns. What I'm really angry about is how I allowed myself to feel so trusting towards him. My 2 cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author guanxk
    I do not think that direct linking can bring you very far in internet marketing. Firstly, you would have to goes into a bidding war and you do not have any autonomy of your site. I was thinking that if everyone starts using GCD, it might end up IMers killing each other.
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    Just a point on this,I am disappointed on the refund front, I haven't requested one yet, but Frank Kern had this right on the button in his videos.

    Fundamentally he said, if the customer complains do not argue with them, do not fight them, refund and move on. In fact his view was that if you refund without any arguments and immediately then they you may even increase trust.

    If you come out and say "I am sorry you weren't happy, keep the product for the next 10 days free, and we will refund right away", they might come back, or they might buy from you again in the future.

    It is that simple.

    Frank had major issues with the first day of MC last year, but he solved quickly and offered a refund straight away to anyone who wasn't happy, NO questions asked
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    • Profile picture of the author Brad101
      Absolutely agree on that kind of refund policy. It's not worth time and energy arguing.

      Originally Posted by cymonguk View Post

      Just a point on this,I am disappointed on the refund front, I haven't requested one yet, but Frank Kern had this right on the button in his videos.

      Fundamentally he said, if the customer complains do not argue with them, do not fight them, refund and move on. In fact his view was that if you refund without any arguments and immediately then they you may even increase trust.

      If you come out and say "I am sorry you weren't happy, keep the product for the next 10 days free, and we will refund right away", they might come back, or they might buy from you again in the future.

      It is that simple.

      Frank had major issues with the first day of MC last year, but he solved quickly and offered a refund straight away to anyone who wasn't happy, NO questions asked
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  • Profile picture of the author win292
    No more good news for this product? It should be a good tool, but....
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    GCD 1 was a bomb as well. Read this and this.. it's funny cause people are saying nearly the exact same thing this time around.
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    • Profile picture of the author Donnie
      Think about it folks .....

      if there was a product were you could find profitable campaigns and simply clone them, one after another, amassing profits you wouldn't be able to buy it for $2000. It would more likely be marketed to a select group of gurus for at least $50,000 plus a huge monthly fee.

      If it were easy to do, $7 per hour employees would be hired to do clone these campaigns, making the software creator tens of millions. Think about what you would do if you discovered a way to make untold fortunes.

      That said, I'm sure if you are willing to put in a lot of work, GCD 2.0 will help you immensely. It isn't going to be easy. A lot of work research and talent will be required, things a $7hr employee wouldn't be able to do.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    Well...still no response from any of the support tickets I've sent in, nor emails. Exactly how many emails do they have, and what's the point. They only send things for you to buy. They don't respond to anything! Here's how many I have...
    chrisc@gcdetective.com, support-team@gcdetective.com, gcd.chris@gmail.com, support@gcdetective.com, frank@gcdetective.com, chris@gcdetective.com

    I have written to them ALL and not one response! I hope anyone wanting to purchase this, will read my post. I think it is SO unprofessional to ignore paying customers concerns. If he or his team had just responded, I wouldn't be this pissed off.

    I don't know if anyone understands that feeling, but it is like I've been robbed. I wouldn't have any looked twice at this product if PPC Classroom had not endorsed it.

    So disappointing to know that GCD can treat paying customer's like this.
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    • Profile picture of the author JunChic
      Originally Posted by Michele Whitley View Post

      So disappointing to know that GCD can treat paying customer's like this.
      Michele, did your CCC offer to credit you the amount when you lodge your dispute.

      I don't know how long Chris is going to hide. Does he think he can get away with this? No "F'ing" way. He can't hide forever.
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      • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
        Originally Posted by JunChic View Post

        Michele, did your CCC offer to credit you the amount when you lodge your dispute.

        I don't know how long Chris is going to hide. Does he think he can get away with this? No "F'ing" way. He can't hide forever.

        I have to go through this big hassle of mailing in all of the information to the dispute dept. Then wait 10+ days to get a response...blah blah blah

        RED FLAG should have been that I could not purchase through clickbank. At least I would have been able to quickly get a refund.
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        • Profile picture of the author JunChic
          Originally Posted by Michele Whitley View Post

          I have to go through this big hassle of mailing in all of the information to the dispute dept. Then wait 10+ days to get a response...blah blah blah
          I'm doing both, submit my dispute via email and continue to ask for my refund. $1997 is not a small amount and I'll make sure Chris and his GCD get the ATTENTION they deserved.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    THIS IS COMFORTING EH...

    <chrisc@gcdetective.com>:
    216.139.233.194 does not like recipient.
    Remote host said: 550 sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.7.17)
    Giving up on 216.139.233.194.

    <support@gcdetective.com>:
    216.139.233.194 does not like recipient.
    Remote host said: 550 sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.7.17)
    Giving up on 216.139.233.194.
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  • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
    I can't PM yet so to here is the page I ordered from which has his guarantee at the bottom.





    https colon // launch dot gcdetective dot com/pay_gcd_v2_2188_pp4X547 dot php

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    • Profile picture of the author JunChic
      Originally Posted by Purplemagic View Post

      I can't PM yet so to here is the page I ordered from which has his guarantee at the bottom.
      https colon // launch dot gcdetective dot com/pay_gcd_v2_2188_pp4X547 dot php


      You can find it in his TOC
      Google Cash Detective Terms of Service
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    The Terms of Service are here and they clearly state 30 money back guarantee no questions asked... yet as we see they asked Michele why does she want to leave, so it looks like a violation of the terms on their part.
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    • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
      Originally Posted by Yusuf View Post

      The Terms of Service are here and they clearly state 30 money back guarantee no questions asked... yet as we see they asked Michele why does she want to leave, so it looks like a violation of the terms on their part.

      That is correct. Plus, there was NO signature by the person who wrote it to me, no response to the request for the refund, and when I wrote back, telling them to just issue the refund...no response. Not one word!

      Chris pitched the forum and how he would be in there and active, answering questions...etc. HA...not one post from him!
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  • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
    I may be naive and that's why I'm embroiled in this fiasco AKA GCD. I am asking my ccc to put a charge back on my card. I've just received another email from Chris C promoting GoogleCash. Thought I'd click thru to see where it took me. Turns out its Clickbank and another link to PayDotCom. I'm wonderering if they are aware of what is going on with their client? Any thoughts?
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    • Profile picture of the author JunChic
      Originally Posted by Purplemagic View Post

      I may be naive and that's why I'm embroiled in this fiasco AKA GCD. I am asking my ccc to put a charge back on my card. I've just received another email from Chris C promoting GoogleCash. Thought I'd click thru to see where it took me. Turns out its Clickbank and another link to PayDotCom. I'm wonderering if they are aware of what is going on with their client? Any thoughts?
      Can you show us a section of that email (with that link).
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  • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
    I've just printed out the invoice for my GCD purchase...this invoice is from within the GCD program. It is issued through:

    Intelli Response
    12126 N. Ridge Rd., Mequon 53092, Wisconsin United States
    Call Us: 1-414-397-5133
    email: orders @ intelli-response dot com

    Now as I'm in Australia I have no idea whether this is one of Chris's companies or is a legit shopping cart providor. Can anyone confirm if they are an independent organisation and if so would contacting them do any good?Your thoughts please.
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    • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
      Originally Posted by Purplemagic View Post

      I've just printed out the invoice for my GCD purchase...this invoice is from within the GCD program. It is issued through:

      Intelli Response
      12126 N. Ridge Rd., Mequon 53092, Wisconsin United States
      Call Us: 1-414-397-5133
      email: orders @ intelli-response dot com

      Now as I'm in Australia I have no idea whether this is one of Chris's companies or is a legit shopping cart providor. Can anyone confirm if they are an independent organisation and if so would contacting them do any good?Your thoughts please.
      When you call that number..it is a personal number that says..."hello, you have reached Steve Scott"

      OMGoodness...this is scary!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
    The following links were at the bottom of an email from Chris Carpenter <chris AT affiliatejackpot dot com> that I received this evening. One takes you to Clickbank and one to PayDot Com


    http colon //www dot googlecash.com/preparation/
    and
    http colon //www dot googlecash.com/index.htm?apid=A100002G&apflag=1&utm_source=learng ooglecash&utm_medium=email&utm_content=news5&utm_c ampaign=gc
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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
      Originally Posted by Purplemagic View Post

      The following links were at the bottom of an email from Chris Carpenter <chris AT affiliatejackpot dot com> that I received this evening. One takes you to Clickbank and one to PayDot Com


      http colon //www dot googlecash.com/preparation/
      and

      http colon //www dot googlecash.com/index.htm?apid=A100002G&apflag=1&utm_source=learng ooglecash&utm_medium=email&utm_content=news5&utm_c ampaign=gc
      Well he did something to tick off Clickbank. When you go to the order link there you get this:


      IMPORTANT!

      This product is no longer for sale or has been disabled due to a terms of service violation
      Signature

      Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm. -Winston Churchill

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      • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
        Originally Posted by Scott Ames View Post

        Well he did something to tick off Clickbank. When you go to the order link there you get this:


        I'm am just sick to my stomach right now

        I won't soon forget this lesson!
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Steve Scott is one of the people in GCD, he makes some of the training videos for GCA and also answers support tickets. He posts in the forums as well but not much.

    BTW another discrepancy is that GCD was supposed to be limited in quantity, but that clearly is not the case and a proof of that is the "Final Push..." email Chris mailed out saying GCD will close on Monday at midnight. Unless I'm misunderstanding something, that means that between now and Monday midnight if 20,000 people sign up then they're in. So that's a time based limited not a quantity based limit, as opposed to what was stated.

    I very well could promote this and make some money but how on earth could I sleep comfortable at night with promoting this mess especially once it has become so obvious? Maybe that part is taught in PPC Classroom, which is managed by the ones who made the most $ in affiliate sales? Pretty sad how there is no responsibility and accountability on behalf of all of the non-guru gurus claiming that they "want to give back" ...
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  • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
    Check out the Mequon address on Google Maps. Not very "Corporate"
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Read this from 2007 when GCD1 was launched and flopped miserably. Discussion about how to get a refund from Chris... 100+ posts. lol
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    • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
      Originally Posted by Yusuf View Post

      Read this from 2007 when GCD1 was launched and flopped miserably. Discussion about how to get a refund from Chris... 100+ posts. lol
      WOW....wish I would have seen all of this BEFORE launch day!
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    This is the number on my CC charge... 888-654-0760

    It claims to be Google Cash, then it prompts you to hit the # that sends you to the so called "dept" your wanting, then you get "I'm sorry the dept you are trying to reach is unavailable, sending you to voice mail"

    What a CROCK!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Yeah me too The strange part is it seems like they just wrote this yesterday... if the dates weren't on the posts I'd think they're talking about GCD2.

    Just have to take it as a lesson to investigate before being convinced by all of the mass control style videos at the pre-sales page. I'm actually trying to get it to work for me so I don't have to request a refund but.. it's not looking good and it's not encouraging that he would even have this type of behavior to begin with.
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    • Profile picture of the author JunChic
      Originally Posted by Yusuf View Post

      Yeah me too The strange part is it seems like they just wrote this yesterday... if the dates weren't on the posts I'd think they're talking about GCD2.

      Just have to take it as a lesson to investigate before being convinced by all of the mass control style videos at the pre-sales page. I'm actually trying to get it to work for me so I don't have to request a refund but.. it's not looking good and it's not encouraging that he would even have this type of behavior to begin with.
      Me three!

      Yusuf, I don't care if Chris put a magic spell and make GCD & GCA work like a charm or throw more bonuses or secret tips. The trust is gone. All I want is my money back.
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    • Profile picture of the author toolleather
      Yusuf,
      I agree with you, I want to make this work, but I think our 30 day refund period should be extended a few more days because we were not able to utilize the GCD2 for at least the first 3-4 days because of server/login problems which were due to no fault of ours.
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  • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
    Re Steve Scott Intelli Response
    check out these links. Quite interesting...
    http colon //www dot intelli-response.com/services.php
    http colon //www dot gcdetective.com/new5.php

    One leads to the other!
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    JunChic I hope it all works out for you. Please do keep us updated on the refund status and once you get it (hopefully), show what steps you took for others who need a refund.
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    • Profile picture of the author JunChic
      Originally Posted by Yusuf View Post

      JunChic I hope it all works out for you. Please do keep us updated on the refund status and once you get it (hopefully), show what steps you took for others who need a refund.
      I WILL.

      I will definitely keep you guys updated. As to those (esp. Michele), keep us posted of yours. We have to go as a collective voice, nail that "B" down.
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  • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
    It seems to me that Chris has rebranded Dynamic ROI Optimizer from Intelli Response. Perhaps thats why he can't explain what's happening? Do any of you experienced IMer's have an opinion?
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    Finally...all my 50+ emails, support tickets and VM messages, must have gotten somewhere...this is the email I JUST received. I'll let you know if it really is credited back.

    Hi Michele,

    This is to let you know that your refund for the Google Cash Detective or Google Cash Automator has been processed.

    Your credit card ending in ____ has been credited a total of $_______.

    Please note that it normally takes between 3 to 5 business days to see it on your account.

    Thank you,

    Amy

    Google Cash Support Team
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    • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
      Originally Posted by Michele Whitley View Post

      Finally...all my 50+ emails, support tickets and VM messages, must have gotten somewhere...this is the email I JUST received. I'll let you know if it really is credited back.

      Hi Michele,

      This is to let you know that your refund for the Google Cash Detective or Google Cash Automator has been processed.

      Your credit card ending in ____ has been credited a total of .

      Please note that it normally takes between 3 to 5 business days to see it on your account.

      Thank you,

      Amy

      Google Cash Support Team
      Good work Michele...they say the squeaky wheel gets the grease....
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      • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
        Originally Posted by Purplemagic View Post

        Good work Michele...they say the squeaky wheel gets the grease....

        Yes it does..However, My post in the GCD forum, here and the emails etc have not been taken kindly...I have been locked out of GCD and no longer a "subscribed member" HA HA

        Wish they had been that quick to give me my d**n refund! Funny how "quick" on some things, and slow on others...LMAO
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        • Profile picture of the author JunChic
          Originally Posted by Michele Whitley View Post

          Yes it does..However, My post in the GCD forum, here and the emails etc have not been taken kindly...I have been locked out of GCD and no longer a "subscribed member" HA HA

          Wish they had been that quick to give me my d**n refund! Funny how "quick" on some things, and slow on others...LMAO
          I'm not surprise your posts in GCD will be deleted soooooon. Keep you posted. I think I better make a copy of that for my CCC reference!
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    Now we are cooking....ALL of a sudden, the emails start coming in..how about this one..

    Dear Customer
    <br/>
    <br/> Hi-- We just got this request and the voice mail. Can we ask why you are asking for a refund after just a few days ? lso, these are some very very successful marketers with a top notch research and development team, lots of resources, and a desire (via evidence of the coaching & videos & blogs & more) to honestly help their members. That is hard to In fact, where else could that be found. We would hate to see you go as we are proud of our product and have the team to make it very very special and a history of doing exactly that and more. We are focused on the prize and it will be a great ride for all of us. Can I ask you to give this some more thought or let one of our coaches talk with you before making that decision

    My response is...GIVE ME MY FRIGGIN REFUND!
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    • Profile picture of the author JunChic
      Originally Posted by Michele Whitley View Post

      Now we are cooking....ALL of a sudden, the emails start coming in..how about this one..

      Dear Customer
      <br/>
      <br/> Hi-- We just got this request and the voice mail. Can we ask why you are asking for a refund after just a few days ? lso, these are some very very successful marketers with a top notch research and development team, lots of resources, and a desire (via evidence of the coaching & videos & blogs & more) to honestly help their members. That is hard to In fact, where else could that be found. We would hate to see you go as we are proud of our product and have the team to make it very very special and a history of doing exactly that and more. We are focused on the prize and it will be a great ride for all of us. Can I ask you to give this some more thought or let one of our coaches talk with you before making that decision

      My response is...GIVE ME MY FRIGGIN REFUND!
      I didn't get that email.
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      • Profile picture of the author cambric
        I too got that reply...and I fired one back saying 'thanks but no thanks'...give me my refund! They took out TWICE the amount they should have from me, so I'm fighting on that too!

        Bob
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        • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
          Originally Posted by cambric View Post

          I too got that reply...and I fired one back saying 'thanks but no thanks'...give me my refund! They took out TWICE the amount they should have from me, so I'm fighting on that too!

          Bob
          Looks like it's GCD ver 1 all over again. Taking out more than they should. They will probably say that they had a problem with their Payment Processor!!!
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        • Profile picture of the author vencedor08
          I said the same thing....no thanks....give me my money.
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    • Profile picture of the author vencedor08
      I have also filled my refund request form and I will be waiting for my money.
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  • Profile picture of the author JunChic
    Michele, I saw your posts on GCD forum (frustrated and need support). Good on you, keep them informed of what kind of "give-back-to-the-community" guy they are dealing with.

    Am trying to submit more refund ticket.
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  • Profile picture of the author cambric
    They can delete my posts too...just get me my money and I wish the rest of them the best of luck!!
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    • Profile picture of the author vencedor08
      Same here bro.....just give me my money.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    The bitter/sweet comfort I have is that, I'm not the only one that fell for this hyped up program. I kick myself for not doing what I normally do, which is research all possible information on something. Of course, this is what I get for going against my better judgment and jumping in with both feet.

    I appreciate the responses and support, and I hope all who want their money back (including me) get's it, and for those who chose to hang in there and pay him loads of money...I wish you the best success with it.
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    • Profile picture of the author vencedor08
      I finally have my refund notification. I also wish the best for all of you that will stay....but as for me....I will be learning from all the beautifull people here in the WARRIOR FORUM (Best of the best)
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      • Profile picture of the author bbyau
        After hearing all these, luckily for me, I did not join the GCD 2. I searched and found Brad Callen's PPC Shadow. This one seems to have some feature similar to the GCD 2 except no say 3 months of prior data.
        I have joined it for $5 one month trial.
        Good luck to all !
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      • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
        Phew looks like i had a close shave on this one, i was a beta tester but got a refund after a week or so, and when i recieved my refund comfirmation i got the same reply as you guys but i nearly gave it another chance, sooo glad i never, they even offered me a month free!!!!!!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Can anyone help me answer why PPC Shadow looks extremely similar to PPC Bully, or vice-versa? Even in the FAQ, etc. I emailed PPC Shadow this question and received no reply.
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    • Profile picture of the author vencedor08
      Wow..I did not know about this PPC Shadow stuff. Is this new?

      Well at least they let you try it for less than $5 dollars. I'll see if can take the trial offer and then come back here and give my honest review.
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      • Profile picture of the author dhsemp
        Still waiting for a refund on CGD from back in 2007... over 50 trouble tickets submitted... all closed without action. I eventually gave up. I'm surprised he's launching this again with the same name... lot's of people were actually trying to get lawyers to sue him and the big flop that GCD made in 2007. Hope you guys have better luck.
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        • Profile picture of the author darksky
          Hmm... I got GCD back in 2007 and requested a refund as well, although I got
          mine right away.

          This time, a friend of mine's a beta tester and after talking with him, decided to
          pick up GCD 2.0.

          I love it... I think it's amazing. The training videos are excellent, and I'm just
          blown away by what it does.

          I highly recommend it.
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          • Profile picture of the author stevescott
            Steve Scott here from GC Detective. Everything is going very well now for GCD. There were a few unexpected issues with logins the first 2 days after the launch but now all users are able to access it and use it fine. Some of the other errors were related as we were moving soms servers around to overcome the login issue.

            I truly believe you won't find a better keyword tool out there. I think I should explain the first launch of GCD a year and a half ago regarding refunds. What happened was that due to the huge influx of members our merchant account paniced and shut down our account. When we processed refunds through authorize.net it said that they were accepted by the system, however our merchant account was not processing them to people's cards and never told us about it.

            After taking awhile to figure out what was happening we eventually refunded all of those who requested it, out of pocket, via paypal before we even received the money from the merchant account provider (CSI). So everyone got refunded who requested it.

            Michele stated she sent 50 support tickets or something like that. That is the problem when you hare a ton of users submitting the same requests over and over again. It becomes difficult to catch up. We are responding to all support tickets though. Also regarding Michele looking at the support ticket history, I only see any support tickets from her starting this morning and she had her refund a few hours later. Unless she sent emails to other places before.

            We have live webinar training 5 days a week from 8am to 12pm and also every evening for a couple of hours. I don't know any other companies that do this. Additionally we continue to put out new training videos constantly. GCD is working great and is very fast, despite the issues for the first couple of days.

            Thanks,

            Steve
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            • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
              Originally Posted by stevescott View Post


              Michele stated she sent 50 support tickets or something like that. That is the problem when you hare a ton of users submitting the same requests over and over again. It becomes difficult to catch up. We are responding to all support tickets though. Also regarding Michele looking at the support ticket history, I only see any support tickets from her starting this morning and she had her refund a few hours later. Unless she sent emails to other places before.

              Why don't you learn to read!!! I never stated in here that I sent 50 support tickets! You people are UNREAL!
              Glad I finally raised enough HELL to get someone in here to address the issue with all of these poor people that fell for the BS...after DAYS of silence, it's about time someone from GCD spoke up! Now if you can just get your story STRAIGHT!
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          • Profile picture of the author Coderjeff
            For what it's worth, Steve Scott finally wrote this in the GCD forum:

            Thanks for all of your input. As many of you have noted, you have sent
            50 support tickets. That is the problem when you have this many people
            sending support tickets multiple multiple times, it becomes unmanageable.

            While the first GCD launch the influx of customers caused our merchant
            account to panic and close down our account without telling us. We
            would submit refunds through authorize.net and it said it would be
            successful. We didn't know that the merchant provider was not following
            through on the refunds. Eventually we found out and we refunded those
            who requested out of our pockets via Paypal.

            We only have had a few technical issues this launch with the login issue
            and a few smaller ones. And everything is running very smoothly.

            For those of you who have unanswered support tickets we are getting
            there. With all of the duplicate tickets it's taking a longer time to
            catch up, because as I said some people are sending 25 to 50 support
            tickets if they are not answered quickly enough.
            I just got this email from Chris:
            We are closing down the GCD Forums for a little bit so we can do some maintenance on it and I also want to get moderators in place. I am going to get 5 moderators for now. As it is quite out of control at the moment without any moderation.
            That same email asked me if I was interesting in being one of the moderators because they had found my responses to other members as being helpful. I haven't been one of the forum cheerleaders and have made a few posts that were farily critical about the support problems so I hope that it is a sign that they are taking steps to resolve things.

            Otherwise, I have no relationship with GCD, other than being one of the paying beta testers, and I currently have an outstanding support ticket about a double billing problem for March, so I'm not here to shill for them or without some concerns myself.

            Obviously I can't promise that anything will improve, but I suspect that with the GCD forum closed for now there will be rumors that they have gone into hiding.

            I can say that I found the product itself to be useful and guess I can only hope for the best.

            ps - As I previewed this note I just saw that Steve posted here while I was typing this. I don't want to repeat him, but since he didn't mention the GCD forum status I'll go ahead and post it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Obelisk
          "Patience is a Virtue right?"

          Holy crap, how many times have I heard that throughout my life, but when it comes to being told 'I have a sure-fire system to thousands of dollars on the other side of this curtain, just slide yer credit card here...' I feel it is a bit of a different story...especially in the IM world.

          Especially when you are buying a 'PERCIEVED' Multi Thousand Dollar tool....

          Settle down folks, you have 30 days, so why 'REFUND' on Day 2 (or 3 or 4 or 5?)

          Obviously there were issues 'beyond' Chris' control, like all good things, give it time... if after 2 weeks (I presume things would be sorted out by then) things are still out of control, then hit the 'REFUND BUTTON'....

          That being said, if after a week or two, functionality hasn't been established on the membership side, then I would also recommend asking the creator for an extension on your refund period. Any sane business owner in the world would recognize these issues and be glad to have the chance to redeem themselves in your eyes.

          If the creator balks at such an attempt, or implies customer 'misunderstanding' then run like hell....Personally, when I create a product I stand behind it no 'if's', 'and's' or 'butt's'....

          At this point, the creator/provider should realize a huge 'Lack of Delivery of Promised Good's' and be more than willing to work with any disgruntled folks caught up in the 'Melting Server Issue's', 3rd Party 'Outta My Hands' Issue's, or General 'Not WhatI Paid For' Issues....

          Bottom Line, give it a few days to sort itself out, you have a sound refund period & thousands of witnesses to the claims contained in the sales letter (just look at what forum you are reading) to back you up should require a bit of 'Muscle'.

          Oh well....Got some wine to drink...Lates....

          Chris

          P.S. How is that for a post from a 'Lurker' of many years. Nowadays I adhere to the Do More read less syndrome...oh what a disease to have

          P.S.S. I am NOT an affiliate of this product, a beta tester of this product, or have any sort of stake in the 'Success' of this product. I just hoped to provide a kick in the arse of 'Common Sense' for all those jumping ship on Day 1,2,3,4,xxxxx of a program.

          Have you ever bought a box of Cereal, Not Actually Tried it, then returned it for fear of it not 'Gettin Yer Bowel's Movin'?

          Eat the cereal then decide, if half you folks would have said 'I followed the directions to a 'T' for 3 week's, the results were not as promised so I ask for a refund, then I might place a bit of weight on your claims. But you can't really do that now can you?
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          • Profile picture of the author Guru
            Originally Posted by smithsts View Post

            "Patience is a Virtue right?"

            Holy crap, how many times have I heard that throughout my life, but when it comes to being told 'I have a sure-fire system to thousands of dollars on the other side of this curtain, just slide yer credit card here...' I feel it is a bit of a different story...especially in the IM world.

            Especially when you are buying a 'PERCIEVED' Multi Thousand Dollar tool....

            Settle down folks, you have 30 days, so why 'REFUND' on Day 2 (or 3 or 4 or 5?)

            Obviously there were issues 'beyond' Chris' control, like all good things, give it time... if after 2 weeks (I presume things would be sorted out by then) things are still out of control, then hit the 'REFUND BUTTON'....

            That being said, if after a week or two, functionality hasn't been established on the membership side, then I would also recommend asking the creator for an extension on your refund period. Any sane business owner in the world would recognize these issues and be glad to have the chance to redeem themselves in your eyes.

            If the creator balks at such an attempt, or implies customer 'misunderstanding' then run like hell....Personally, when I create a product I stand behind it no 'if's', 'and's' or 'butt's'....

            At this point, the creator/provider should realize a huge 'Lack of Delivery of Promised Good's' and be more than willing to work with any disgruntled folks caught up in the 'Melting Server Issue's', 3rd Party 'Outta My Hands' Issue's, or General 'Not WhatI Paid For' Issues....

            Bottom Line, give it a few days to sort itself out, you have a sound refund period & thousands of witnesses to the claims contained in the sales letter (just look at what forum you are reading) to back you up should require a bit of 'Muscle'.

            Oh well....Got some wine to drink...Lates....

            Chris

            P.S. How is that for a post from a 'Lurker' of many years. Nowadays I adhere to the Do More read less syndrome...oh what a disease to have

            P.S.S. I am NOT an affiliate of this product, a beta tester of this product, or have any sort of stake in the 'Success' of this product. I just hoped to provide a kick in the arse of 'Common Sense' for all those jumping ship on Day 1,2,3,4,xxxxx of a program.

            Have you ever bought a box of Cereal, Not Actually Tried it, then returned it for fear of it not 'Gettin Yer Bowel's Movin'?

            Eat the cereal then decide, if half you folks would have said 'I followed the directions to a 'T' for 3 week's, the results were not as promised so I ask for a refund, then I might place a bit of weight on your claims. But you can't really do that now can you?
            Well Said!

            I have no idea why people panicking.. so far i liked software not because it is made by GCD 1 creator or Chris but because I can see data which is very important for me to make more money!
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          • Profile picture of the author vstar650
            First let me make it very clear that I am not a Shill nor do I have any financial stake in GCD....

            Since putting it to use on March 12th and setting up only two campaigns, I have made $503.39 in clickbank commissions with a total adspend of only $23.41, I quite honestly don't even know how to use it to it's full potential yet

            I don't blame anyone for venting their frustrations, and I know how frustrating it can be to have your support questions go unanswered,

            I do think that Chris and his team made an honest effort in creating a flawless launch of GDC, but when you anticipate a certain number of memberships but twice as many sign up, that's when things go wrong.

            I think they should have put a limit on the number of initial memberships until they were comfortable that everthing was running smoothly, then allow more members afterwards

            There has been some recent communication from team member Steve Scott indicating that the worst of the Bugs have been ironed out and that all support tickets are slowly being addressed, He also indicated that there was a huge influx of support issues and refund requests (with people sending in muliple tickets) and therefore it will take some time to sort through them

            Lets face it, even the best most thought out plans can and will go wrong... Shit Happens!

            Even the Billion Dollar Giants like Microsoft and Google have issues with their product/services launches and their support is often no better... Has anybody sent in a support ticket to Google lately... That last issue I had with a Google service took 3 weeks to resolve (and could have taken 3 minutes in my opinion)

            Anyway I know this post won't sit well with many of you and I don't blame you one bit, it's very frustrating to shell out your hard earned Money and not get the level of Product and support that you deserve, but I truly feel that given a few more days it will all come together and Chris and his Team will make right and compenate all those who were inconvenienced.

            I for one love the Software now that the wrinkles have been ironed out and I can only see it imroving in time.

            Now that they have GCD working smoothly I suggest they get their Support team up to spead, it certainly is lacking at this time, and I say shame on you Chris... But I can't knock the product, as it's working Beautifully for me and I am profiting with Clickbank and Adwords like I never have before!

            Cheers,
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            • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
              Since putting it to use on March 12th and setting up only two campaigns, I have made $503.39 in clickbank commissions with a total adspend of only $23.41,
              Well now that seems like its performing as advertised.

              Not asking you to reveal your niche or the secret sauce in its entirety but could you elaborate about how the GCD tool helped you accomplish this?

              I guess it helped you to identify another campaign for a product that you determined would be successful based upon ? What?

              Cost per click? Length of time Current Ad has run? Some ROI formula you use? Did you clone an ad/campaign? Did you direct link?
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              • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
                Originally Posted by vstar650 View Post

                Since putting it to use on March 12th and setting up only two campaigns, I have made $503.39 in clickbank commissions with a total adspend of only $23.41, I quite honestly don't even know how to use it to it's full potential yet

                Congrats I do wish everyone that stays with GCD the best of luck with the program.

                I had high hopes but for several reasons including but not limited to the customer service, I changed my mind.

                I am glad to read that people are having some success, no matter what the program is that they use.

                P.S.I can't help but wonder if the sudden flood of post' defending GCD is a group prompted by GCD to get here and try to do some damage control..hmmm


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              • Profile picture of the author cambric
                Originally Posted by TexTon View Post

                Wasn't that the day of the launch, guess maybe the day after?
                And you've somehow been able to access the software, while others haven't, and made a $479.98 profit?
                This all the while not quite knowing how to use it to its full potential?
                Unbelievable.
                Congratulations, yeah congratulations.:rolleyes:
                It was opened for sale on the 10th...around 2pm est I believe...then for the next 24-36 hours nobody could really use it...so around the 12th early, nearly 48 hours later, it got available to almost everyone.

                That is impressive...I hadn't thought about the time factor...exactly how did you do it that fast? If so...I congratulate you! I am with Michele, for various reasons I too asked for a refund...one of which they pulled out TWICE the amount they were supposed to and keep sending me emails saying, "no, it's only a confirmation". Really? My credit union didn't know that!

                Seriously, great luck to you and those who stay, I'm staying with PPC Classroom and learn it that way.
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                • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
                  Originally Posted by cambric View Post

                  It was opened for sale on the 10th...around 2pm est I believe...then for the next 24-36 hours nobody could really use it...so around the 12th early, nearly 48 hours later, it got available to almost everyone.

                  That is impressive...I hadn't thought about the time factor...exactly how did you do it that fast? If so...I congratulate you! I am with Michele, for various reasons I too asked for a refund...one of which they pulled out TWICE the amount they were supposed to and keep sending me emails saying, "no, it's only a confirmation". Really? My credit union didn't know that!

                  Seriously, great luck to you and those who stay, I'm staying with PPC Classroom and learn it that way.
                  I'm with you 100%...I will see you in the forum of PPC Classroom, NOW that is a program that I can't say one bad thing about, and am sooo glad to be a part of it!

                  I don't know about you but...funny how all the GCD defenders have ALL of a sudden showed up..
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              • Profile picture of the author stevescott
                That's awesome vstar. That's typical of the testimonials we've been receiving by other members from the beta users and some since we've launched.

                I apologize Michele about misquoting you about the 50+ support tickets. You are right you said you've sent 50+ emails and support tickets etc...Also I went back and checked and you are right that you sent the email on Friday afternoon and received the refund on Saturday morning, so you were right about that.

                Right now the software is working very smoothly. There was an issue where a user created an auto bot that automatically queried our software at insane rates. Not to mention that he sold his software to other users. This caused some serious problems and we have since taken measures to stop automated bots.

                Frank Terranova will be in the conference room to answer member questions and give them live support Monday through Friday from approximately 8am to 12noon. And then also conduct classes even evening that normally last for an hour followed up by questions and answer sessions.

                Additionally we are bringing on extra support to make sure we are up to speed on all tickets as fast as we can. We have made a tremendous investment in developing this software and our users have also done so in order to use it so know that over delivering is essential. While everything hasn't gone perfectly, we take measures to make sure that all issues are resolved as fast as possible.

                Thanks,

                Steve
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                • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
                  Originally Posted by stevescott View Post


                  I apologize Michele about misquoting you about the 50+ support tickets. You are right you said you've sent 50+ emails and support tickets etc...Also I went back and checked and you are right that you sent the email on Friday afternoon and received the refund on Saturday morning, so you were right about that.

                  Just for the record, I started sending emails on Tuesday
                  Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:26 PM
                  This is the time stamp from my first email to GCD, if you remember correctly,
                  there was NO possible way to send a support ticket until Friday because
                  no one could get LOG IN for any length of time until then. So..it appears
                  you have made my point for me!
                  Also, the support ticket was only answered after I left you a voice mail.

                  If I had a product, and it was clear that it had problems..I would do the right thing, and
                  admit that I had screwed up, and the launch was a cluster "f". I would get into the forums THE DAY OF
                  and start posting to assure people that I take FULL responsibility, and I would
                  offer to extend the warranty, or make SOME concessions to upset buyers
                  that paid $1000's.

                  In this economy, that would have been appreciated, and professional. All you manage to do was destroy
                  trust in GCD and everything related to it.

                  Good day

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            • Profile picture of the author Obelisk
              Originally Posted by vstar650 View Post

              First let me make it very clear that I am not a Shill nor do I have any financial stake in GCD....

              Since putting it to use on March 12th and setting up only two campaigns, I have made $503.39 in clickbank commissions with a total adspend of only $23.41, I quite honestly don't even know how to use it to it's full potential yet

              I don't blame anyone for venting their frustrations, and I know how frustrating it can be to have your support questions go unanswered,

              I do think that Chris and his team made an honest effort in creating a flawless launch of GDC, but when you anticipate a certain number of memberships but twice as many sign up, that's when things go wrong.

              I think they should have put a limit on the number of initial memberships until they were comfortable that everthing was running smoothly, then allow more members afterwards

              There has been some recent communication from team member Steve Scott indicating that the worst of the Bugs have been ironed out and that all support tickets are slowly being addressed, He also indicated that there was a huge influx of support issues and refund requests (with people sending in muliple tickets) and therefore it will take some time to sort through them

              Lets face it, even the best most thought out plans can and will go wrong... Shit Happens!

              Even the Billion Dollar Giants like Microsoft and Google have issues with their product/services launches and their support is often no better... Has anybody sent in a support ticket to Google lately... That last issue I had with a Google service took 3 weeks to resolve (and could have taken 3 minutes in my opinion)

              Anyway I know this post won't sit well with many of you and I don't blame you one bit, it's very frustrating to shell out your hard earned Money and not get the level of Product and support that you deserve, but I truly feel that given a few more days it will all come together and Chris and his Team will make right and compenate all those who were inconvenienced.

              I for one love the Software now that the wrinkles have been ironed out and I can only see it imroving in time.

              Now that they have GCD working smoothly I suggest they get their Support team up to spead, it certainly is lacking at this time, and I say shame on you Chris... But I can't knock the product, as it's working Beautifully for me and I am profiting with Clickbank and Adwords like I never have before!

              Cheers,
              Hey All You Jive Turkeys in WF-Land,


              vstar650, So what your saying is you actually took what you were shown, applied it, and actually got what the product offered?

              Well there you have it folks, taking action garners results!

              (Please note, the above reference does not take into account for the 'appliers' prowess pertaining to adwords, obviously familiarity with the 'Goog' will cause results to vary.)

              My comment is to commend 'vstar650' for what 90% of the purchasers won't do....Take Action!

              Excellent job vstar650, with this attitude you will undoubtable make it in whatever endeavor you undertake! Awesome!

              knowledge - action = where you are now
              knowledge + power = financial freedom (within the correct context of course



              Best Regards jive Turkeys,


              Chris
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              • Profile picture of the author Obelisk
                BTW....I am trying to make all reference's to the almighty 'Google' be refferred to as just 'The Goog'", "Goog" or any other facsimlie thereof....so any and all future attempts will be pursued and penalized within the constraints of the law....



                I am an Idiot.....

                P.S. This link has been saved for prosperity....(.)(.)'s

                Take Care,

                Chris
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                • Profile picture of the author Obelisk
                  One more thing before I go for a long time again....

                  GOOGLE ADWORDS SUCCESS EQUALS:

                  Product Keywords+Benefit Laden Ad

                  -or-

                  Keywords Describing What The Product Does+€Benefit Laden Ad

                  Coupled with

                  [] for testing

                  if converts

                  "" with more kw research for the LT's

                  Track it for a few days (sometimes just a day)

                  Then decide on a rollout plan...(LP, List Building, Click-Fling...etc....)



                  It's all in the Deet's People....

                  Take Care,

                  Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    Why no response??? [TI-9B971]

    Friday, March 13, 2009 3:14 PM

    From:
    "Support Team" <support-team@gcdetective.com>


    BTW Steve...If I only sent a support ticket this morning, then how could I have posted the reply sent with this email...yesterday! Hmmm, little strange don't you think? Since YOUR support team clearly stated that it takes more than 24 hours to get a reply...something doesn't add up does it?

    I don't appreciate being called a liar to save face for your unprofessional manner in dealing with so many upset people that spent money on a product that clearly was not ready.

    Just make sure that refund get's back to me, and I'll gladly leave a post giving GCD credit for returning my $$$
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  • Profile picture of the author vic1
    Since putting it to use on March 12th and setting up only two campaigns, I have made $503.39 in clickbank commissions with a total adspend of only $23.4
    So you're saying about 16 sales or so from about 235 clicks?
    Direct linking?
    Conversion rate of 14.6 to 1?

    Will the GCD affiliate link come out on your next post?
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    • Profile picture of the author Guru
      Originally Posted by vic1 View Post

      So you're saying about 16 sales or so from about 235 clicks?
      Direct linking?
      Conversion rate of 14.6 to 1?

      Will the GCD affiliate link come out on your next post?
      yes i have affiliate link my signature but we all have rights to express our view. as i said from very first post here. 90% + people will not be able to make any money from it but there will be people making good money from it.

      I can't see any problem with the software after problems in the beginning. this software is for 1 year ( doesn't matter which option people selected ) getting back $2000.00 ( cost of software ) will not be hard if done right way.

      just thinking of putting some KW in the software and then finding best campaign and then just cloning will not make money. ( this will take may be 20 minutes)
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  • Profile picture of the author dicksony
    Still waiting for Vstar to expand on his success story..
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  • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
    To Vstar.
    It is really interesting to hear from you expanded success story...
    Could you make it like a study case... )
    And I'm a believer as Vstar that situation with support will get better soon...

    BTW, I've got email from Chris - he is closing GCD2 doors on Monday, Mar. 16 at midnight.
    Who is still interested to get in can take a look here: Google Cash Detective Order Page

    Regards,
    Alexander
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  • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
    To Vstar.
    It is really interesting to hear from you expanded success story...
    Could you make it like a study case... )
    And I'm a believer as Vstar that situation with support will get better soon...

    BTW, I've got email from Chris - he is closing GCD2 doors on Monday, Mar. 16 at midnight.
    Who is still interested to get in you can take a look here: Google Cash Detective Order Page

    Regards,
    Alexander
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  • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
    Sorry for the double post - something was wrong with my connection.
    (

    Alexander.
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  • Profile picture of the author Philipc
    I am little worried with the instability of the whole program. I'm searching for a while and it works fine. Then I conduct another search and it comes back with "0" results. :|
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  • Profile picture of the author vic1
    yes i have affiliate link my signature but we all have rights to express our view
    You miss the point. We are not talking $38 commissions here.
    The only success stories, the only touting for this product are made by GCD affiliates who earn $450 plus per sale.

    And this has occurred through out this thread from the day it was started.

    And this has occurred through out every other forum on IM there is.

    Vstar is one of two that have touted this product and provided numbers without an affiliate link but his numbers don't quite add up, thus the affiliate in your next post crack.

    Yea, you can express your view all you want but the only people who will believe the swill are people, who at this point in their career, can't tell the difference.
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      Originally Posted by vic1 View Post


      ...but the only people who will believe the swill are people, who at this point in their career, can't tell the difference.
      This is powerful software, and it takes a bit of time to see the real
      gains. Review these Testimonials from beta customers and followers
      of the Google Cash system ...
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      - Too much advertising ...

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      • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
        Well when i was on beta test i heard of no people in the members area making any money with GCD cloning campaigns, plenty of people who were cloning existing campaigns but losing money though !!!! Fact !!!
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        • Profile picture of the author stevescott
          Originally Posted by checkmuldoon View Post

          Well when i was on beta test i heard of no people in the members area making any money with GCD cloning campaigns, plenty of people who were cloning existing campaigns but losing money though !!!! Fact !!!
          That's simply not true. A lot of the people who are making the money you don't normally find in the forums. They are busy making money and not telling people about it. We received an overwhelming amount of testimonials. And there is an artful strategy to it that Chris discusses in his many videos of how to use GCD and attack a market. Additionally Frank teaches in his live seminars some of the mistakes people are making and showing them the right way to go about it.

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          • Profile picture of the author steveka
            Originally Posted by stevescott View Post

            That's simply not true. A lot of the people who are making the money you don't normally find in the forums. They are busy making money and not telling people about it...

            Steve
            Why are they busy? I thought they were only working a few hours a day
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          • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
            So were are all these people making the money ? Fact is every single person who cloned a campaign and posted in your forum had lost money FACT !!!!
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            • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
              Here's a brief update:
              • there were login problems for at least the first 3-4 days and perhaps until now with some people, but no word from GCD yet on whether they will extend our 30 day trial.
              • the detector itself does appear to work as demonstrated in all the pre-sales videos, as far as finding the historical data of keywords, etc.
              • no comment on GCA since I'm still trying to understand how to apply the formulas
              • the forums are currently down and being upgraded as they had a critical software bug which was slowing down the authentication server, and making it difficult to log into GCD.
              • the training for GCD is unorganized and scattered all over the place, there are quite a few long videos but they are without notes or descriptions so while they are there, it is difficult to benefit from them since they aren't in any chronological order (Step 1, Step 2, Step 3, etc.)
              • the membership appears to be limited only by time, not by quantity as was indicated in the pre-sales and sales letter, it will close Monday midnight and so if 10,000+ people join by that time then they are in.
              • Google Cash Revolution is incomplete and not available.
              • there was an advertised amount of 12 landing pages to be available, only 2 are available at the moment.
              • Google Cash 4 Home Course is incomplete and what is available is only the introduction, which was basically the pre-sales videos.
              Could be some more stuff but that's what I can think of offhand.
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              • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
                Originally Posted by Yusuf View Post

                • the forums are currently down and being upgraded as they had a critical software bug which was slowing down the authentication server, and making it difficult to log into GCD.
                Really? LOL...probably more like, having to go in and delete the hundreds of post made by pissed off people who couldn't gain access to what they paid for, and about the non-existent support team/mediators that were supposed to be "very active" in the forum.:p
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                • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
                  and put some bullshit fabricated testimonials up!!!!!
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                  • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
                    Wow ... I am really impressed with the pure passion in this thread!

                    But you know what else? With a bit more "back & forth", this thread will
                    easily become the most popular discussion in recent Warrior history.

                    Check it out - 15,000 views and 650+ comments so far. Really great work!

                    I would like to thank Michele Whitley, who has posted 46 replies so far,
                    and her friend Yusuf (with a fantastic 43) - and I would like to welcome
                    a new contender into the mix: checkmuldoon - moving up fast

                    The 3 of you have managed to keep this thread going and going. I'm really
                    happy with the massive exposure. Just a little while longer, and this thread
                    will become the most popular discussion thread ever at the Warrior Forum.

                    Awesome stuff!

                    Sales are still strong - and loads of customers came directly from this
                    thread. (Wonderful irony - just brilliant stuff!)

                    It was a difficult start - but things are going extremely well at GCD2.
                    Thanks for the input. I'm looking forward to watching this thread reach
                    new milestones! GCD has already changed the affiliate marketing industry.

                    Limited spots.

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                    • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
                      mmmm The reason i gave your sotware the custard pie is simple, i wanted to do some competitive intellegence to see the keywords being used like in the video about NY hotels however i tried around 10 different urls and not one showed ant data and i knew for a fact they were using adwords, also i cloned a campaign as shown in the training videos not the same campaigns though, a campaign i found using GDC which had massive profability index and had been running for over 90 days, however $250 on adwords and no sales. Also it showed keywords were costing this guy aroung 30 cents yet the same keywords cost me ove $1 !!!
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                      • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
                        Originally Posted by checkmuldoon View Post

                        mmmm The reason i gave your sotware the custard pie is simple ...
                        Yes - we do have stories from burned customers. Not all campaigns are
                        going to be profitable in the first few days. The training videos very
                        specifically say - take it slow, and start with high bid costs ... then as
                        you progress - lower your bid costs over the first week.

                        It seems some customers decided to avoid the training videos

                        There are a LOT of customers who did follow Chris Carpenter's instructions,
                        and have begun cloning campaigns very slowly. One of the best strategies
                        you can do, is use a $5 bid price - with a $25 per day campaign limit.

                        This way, you always hold down the top position, and you will receive
                        a very high click through rate. However, you will only spend $25 per day.

                        As each day goes past, you can continue lowering your bid price, and
                        watch the "average" position reported by Google Adwords. Your goal,
                        is to maintain position while lowering your bid cost.

                        By maintaining your position, you can maintain your click through rate.
                        There is an "art" to it, and it's fully explained in the training videos.

                        Spending $250 in a single night gives you no insight into the industry.

                        Google Cash Detective shows hundreds of thousands of long-term
                        Adwords advertising campaigns, run by successful webmasters and
                        affiliates. These people have progressively lowered their cost per click
                        over weeks (sometimes months), and a critical part of our training shows
                        exactly how to emulate their success, by cloning their campaigns AND
                        lowering your initial bid costs to become profitable ...

                        The process of lowering click costs, and maintaining position can be
                        repeated and applied far more quickly, on high volume keywords. I'm
                        sorry you lost $250. I really feel for you, and I hope it does not
                        discourage you! This really is a great piece of software and I know
                        it can help you, and others - to earn money. It works really well ...

                        And very briefly, the campaigns showed in the video were cloned
                        by hundreds of customers within about 2 hours. The cost per click,
                        competition and position metrics went mad, because a lot of our
                        customers had very little experience and just cloned them verbatim.

                        (I wish I was the merchant who owned those Clickbank products!
                        They must have had some incredible traffic and insane sales!)

                        And finally - in situations where you experience "0 results", this may
                        have been related to the keywords you used. If they were not being
                        tracked previously, then data will begin to accumulate from your initial
                        query. The software is extremely accurate and works for U.S. listings.
                        At this stage, it only offers insight into U.S. based Adwords markets.

                        I'm sorry you lost the funds man. I hope you stick with it, because the
                        lifestyle Chris presents, is entirely possible. Selling other people' stuff is
                        one of the easiest ways to make money online, and GCD offers affiliates
                        a tremendous advantage.
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                    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
                      Im sure you're a little butt-hurt by the negative vibes in this thread towards the GCD. I can understand that. But honestly - you guys do have a bit of this coming. Take your lumps with a bit of humility and honesty and you will likely win people over.

                      Being a wise-ass prick likely won't get you anything but a few more refunds.

                      Your choice ...

                      Originally Posted by NewQuestions View Post

                      Wow ... I am really impressed with the pure passion in this thread!

                      But you know what else? With a bit more "back & forth", this thread will
                      easily become the most popular discussion in recent Warrior history.

                      Check it out - 15,000 views and 650+ comments so far. Really great work!

                      I would like to thank Michele Whitley, who has posted 46 replies so far,
                      and her friend Yusuf (with a fantastic 43) - and I would like to welcome
                      a new contender into the mix: checkmuldoon - moving up fast

                      The 3 of you have managed to keep this thread going and going. I'm really
                      happy with the massive exposure. Just a little while longer, and this thread
                      will become the most popular discussion thread ever at the Warrior Forum.

                      Awesome stuff!

                      Sales are still strong - and loads of customers came directly from this
                      thread. (Wonderful irony - just brilliant stuff!)

                      It was a difficult start - but things are going extremely well at GCD2.
                      Thanks for the input. I'm looking forward to watching this thread reach
                      new milestones! GCD has already changed the affiliate marketing industry.

                      Limited spots.

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            • Profile picture of the author stevescott
              Originally Posted by checkmuldoon View Post

              So were are all these people making the money ? Fact is every single person who cloned a campaign and posted in your forum had lost money FACT !!!!
              Generally before Google Cash Detective, even if you follow the best PPC marketing practices, only 20% of your keywords will be profitable.

              When entering a new market or set of new keywords it is expected that you will have to pay a larger amount upfront to get yourself in there in the top positions. Once in there you follow the strategies taught by Chris of lowering your bid prices. If your budget is low it's best to start with just a few keywords and once you start making profits then start incorporating other keywords.

              So I haven't looked at everyone's situation in the forum, but more likely than not people did not follow through with the strategies, which is unfortunately the case many times. In anything most people quit too soon.

              Not every single keyword in GCD will turn out to be profitable, but it exponentially increases your chances and when you find those keywords you need to approach them smartly.

              Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author Guru
      Originally Posted by vic1 View Post

      You miss the point. We are not talking $38 commissions here.
      The only success stories, the only touting for this product are made by GCD affiliates who earn $450 plus per sale.

      And this has occurred through out this thread from the day it was started.

      And this has occurred through out every other forum on IM there is.

      Vstar is one of two that have touted this product and provided numbers without an affiliate link but his numbers don't quite add up, thus the affiliate in your next post crack.

      Yea, you can express your view all you want but the only people who will believe the swill are people, who at this point in their career, can't tell the difference.
      I have no idea apart from initial problem what is the problem with the software. it is giving result what it was promised to give. it is a software it can't make anyone money for sure until one uses their other IM skills with it! i think its about too much expectation!
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Elliott
    Read the post there is plenty of other problems, I would say for 1 support tickets not being answered. Spending 300,000 $$ and not hiring enough people to reply to support tickets?
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    • Profile picture of the author vstar650
      Well now that seems like its performing as advertised

      Not asking you to reveal your niche or the secret sauce in its entirety but could you elaborate about how the GCD tool helped you accomplish this?

      I guess it helped you to identify another campaign for a product that you determined would be successful based upon ? What?

      Cost per click? Length of time Current Ad has run? Some ROI formula you use? Did you clone an ad/campaign? Did you direct link?
      Keep in mind that I have been successfully advertising with adwords for over 6 years, so I have come to know the system very well and have built an excellent history which ultimately improves my Quality Score,

      Also, in that time I have tested, tested and retested and I can pick out high converting keywords and nail down High converting ad copy quite easily (You Gotta hit their Hot Buttons)

      With that said, Without revealing my niches, here is how I approached my initial campaign...

      I used the keyword search function by actually throwing in random keywords and I continued to Drill down in search of "late buying cycle keywords" (longtails)

      Example: (but not an actual example that I've researched)
      search for keyword adwords
      drill down and find Adwords Miracle
      drill down more and find Buy adwords Miracle Guide

      Granted, these Gems are not the easiest to find but they are out there, and although the traffic is small in comparison to the root keywords Adwords... With Good ad copy, the Click Through Rate can easily exceed 50% and with excellent Merchant sales copy or Landing Page a convesion rate of 25% is easily attained

      I looked for high run time ratios of 30 days or more, traffic estimate of over 6000 per month and cost per click below 0.25 ( once again these Gems can take time to find but they are out there)

      I looked for the best performing late buying cycle keywords and used only them

      I took their best performing ads and improved on them by hitting their hot buttons (the values or emotions which drive our behaviours) for example: fulfilling a pleasurable value while alleviating a painful one

      On both of my campaigns I Direct linked by outbidding my competitors using Chris' bidding formula, now I should clarify that as of this morning one of my campaigns are not displaying because of the double serving rule which indicates that one of the competitors has increased his bid amount above mine.

      That means I have to either out bid and hope that my competitor bails out (if he Does Not Bail out, it will only cause a bidding war) or create a landing page

      In some cases in the past I have out bid and scared off the competitor but It has also backfired and turned into an all out war ( which can suck up the profits in no time)

      I Love creating Review style landing pages anyway, as I feel they can do wonders for conversion rates, so in this case I will slap together a Lander today and be right back in business.

      Wasn't that the day of the launch, guess maybe the day after?
      And you've somehow been able to access the software, while others haven't, and made a $479.98 profit?
      This all the while not quite knowing how to use it to its full potential?
      Unbelievable.
      Congratulations, yeah congratulations
      - No, it was 2 days later

      - Yes, I managed a $479.00 profit while only using the keywords seach function and not taking advantage of it's full potential such as "Url search" and "Wild Card search"

      Do I care if you believe me?... No... I have nothing to gain

      So you're saying about 16 sales or so from about 235 clicks?
      Direct linking?
      Conversion rate of 14.6 to 1?

      Will the GCD affiliate link come out on your next post?
      What the Hell... I said nothing of the sort

      How did you come up with these figures with out knowning my stats such as...
      - Imressions
      -CTR
      -CPC
      -Conversions
      -Commission earned
      Are some sort of mathematical Genius? I f you thinkl you are, let me tell you... You're not even close!

      On that note... I DO Not owe you or anbody else a full statistical report!

      Will the GCD affiliate link come out on your next post?
      Absolutely NOT :p
      P.S.I can't help but wonder if the sudden flood of post' defending GCD is a group prompted by GCD to get here and try to do some damage control..hmmm
      Not from Me, Once again I have absolutely nothing to gain from my initial post except for the feeling of satisfaction I get from offering some helpful insight

      vstar650, So what your saying is you actually took what you were shown, applied it, and actually got what the product offered?

      Well there you have it folks, taking action garners results!
      EXACTLY!!!

      I am a firm believer that 90% of people WILL NOT take the neccessary action require to make such programs work... But hey, that just means less competition for me

      Take care all, I hope you have a very Properous new year

      P.S
      This will be the last reply from me on this thread, I'd love to stick around but I'd rather spend my time inside GCD learning to maximise it's potential and then taking action.

      Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author vic1
    Are you a competitor? You don't have many posts next to your name
    I originally belonged to the WF in 2005 and quit because of the snake oil salesmen like yourself that do nothing but take advantage of noobs. And at that time, me.
    I've been in the game for 4 years now and call it the way I see it.

    I rejoined about 2 months ago to research something and started to make relevant posts but got locked out. Some kind of computer glitch I guess, but you know what I mean of course.

    So I had to re-sign, thus no posts.

    But I see the same BS floating around so soon, I'll drop out again.
    The noobs are such suckers, (no offense, been there done that) and the snake oil salesmen still can't sell anything on it's merits.

    You make me laugh so much. It really is funny to watch you smear
    the GCD system. You must have some sort of agenda.
    I have no other agenda then call it the way I see it.

    And I'm not a competitor but have been around long enough to call a spade a spade.

    You embarrass yourself trying insinuate that I must be a competitor to have an opposing view of your product. How could I possibly have negative things to say after watching the cool videos.


    Review these testimonials from beta customers and followers
    of the Google Cash system .
    Just call me skeptical when people post their results. No one wants to spend a thousand bucks and tell everyone the truth. Especially on YOUR forum.

    There are tens of thousands of phony results posted every day by either affiliate marketers, or some one who doesn't show their affiliate link on the first phony result post but will show it shortly there after or habitual liars who haven't told the truth since they got caught touching Suzie's private parts when they were 4 years old.

    For 2 weeks we tried to get Beta testers to post here with results.
    Not one came forward and dozens were reading.

    This is powerful software, and it takes a bit of time to see the real
    gains.
    I must have missed this part in the videos. I must have tuned out for awhile dreaming of living on the beach in Mexico because of all the money I make from PPC marketing.

    Noobs, the truth of the matter is all of guys selling how to do PPC really did start out making money from PPC. But it's a tough game. It's much easier selling the how to guide or program and that's how they all now make their money.

    Don't believe for a second they are still doing direct linking PPC campaigns. They don't have the time anymore.

    amazing bonuses
    I really laugh at this term. Are those the bonerouses that to get, you have to go through 3 pitch pages with offers to sell the programs you really need to make GCD work for you?

    Until then, the world
    must listen to people like you ... with BIG opinions. lol
    The same way they must to listen to you.

    The difference is I'm trying to get people, mainly noobs, to think a little before they fork over their dough.

    That in fact, if something is too good to be true, it's not.

    That in fact, if you're not making money with PPC now, you probably just don't get it. And GCD isn't all of a sudden going to make that light bulb in your brain turn on.

    Are you a competitor by any chance?
    Again, trying to shed a poor light on an opinion because I didn't fall for the cool video BS.


    Until then, the world
    must listen to people like you ... with BIG opinions. lol

    At least my opinion doesn't reek of self servicing bullshit like you and the rest of
    the GCD affiliates do.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    Vic1,
    I hope you don't drop out. I value opinions like yours that actually help us that have been in IM for less than a year.

    For almost a year, I can proudly say that I haven't fell for "pie in the sky" programs. Unfortunately I was star struck with GCD and bought into it. BIG lesson learned!!

    I have made a little money but am still upside down, so I was hoping this program would be the help that I needed for research so I could learn how others are successful...not to CLONE, but research and learn so I could tweak and change what I needed to in order to get better results.

    I for one...appreciate your contribution. Sometimes I feel like I'm walking through s**t to ride the pony! So we "noobs" are glad to see people like you active in the forum...thanks


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  • Profile picture of the author stevescott
    I personally have seen several newbies learn from our training and utilize our tool to make profits quicker than most newbies do with PPC marketing.

    GCD is an amazing tool giving you immediate access to 2.5 million keywords and 20 million + unique landing pages. There is not tool like that available period. There are tools like keywordspy where you have to pay $139 a month just to monitor 500 keywords and it doesn't give you nearly as much data.

    Additionally there are several more powerful features that weren't even talked about in the prelaunch. Such as you can do wildcard searches for any link that exists on all 20 million landing pages. That's a huge amount of data. There is an average of 5 outgoing links that are searchable on all 20 million landing pages.

    We have live training in a conference room about 6 hours every day. With so much training and a powerful software newbies and advanced marketers alike have a accelerated increase in their chances of being succesful.

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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    stevescott,

    When should we expect GCD forums to be back up? Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    In that case maybe I should put my affiliate link up.
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  • Profile picture of the author ExtraCashOnline
    Guys

    to be fair to the GCD team give them some time to sort themselves out. Remember that you have 30 days before to make a decision. Also give yourself some time to use the software. You paid for it so use it and see if it's worth what you paid, don't give up just yet.
    I know I will get some backlash but that is okay because some of you are angry but remember just try it. That is all that anyone can ask, that you try it. I think that everyone can log into the member's area now. The software will truly help people make money online. And yes, I have added my affiliate link because I believe in the product and I'm also a customer.

    peace
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    Yes, and I've done it out of sincere honesty in sharing the truth about my personal experience, in hopes of saving even one person from the pitfall of spending way too much money on a less than adequate product!

    There are no links in my post or signature. I have no alterative motive for financial gain by writing some fabricated crap sales pitch, hoping to make a profit because clearly, your time is more valuable in here than in that fantastic product your are defending.

    If it does all you say, and your making so much money with it..I sure wouldn't be in here blasting those of us who are dissatisfied. I would be in GCD making every minute count, making those hundreds and thousands you defenders claim are rolling in for every ten minutes work.


    If I believe in something I am just as passionate as I am when I feel like I have been taken!

    Good to see it it "closing" tonight...those who miss out will have no idea how luck just befriended them!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Just to be clear I'm not bashing GCD, in fact I'm watching training videos right now and trying to set some campaigns up.

    The main mistake they made during the launch is the lack of remaining in contact with the customers. They sent JV Promo Prize emails yet kept people in the dark about the latest situation on logging in and so on.

    Of course it's understandable that they only have a few people on their staff, but it also must be understood that people put down money with the promise of being able to access GCD immediately along with priority support and the other things that I mentioned which aren't even complete yet such as the Google Cash 4 Video Home Study course and it seems like they won't be complete within the 30 days.

    The least they could do is simply extend the 30 day period.

    Every day counts. Specifically it costs roughly the following prior to the 30 days trial expiring:

    Option 1 - $33.23 a day
    Option 2 - $11.67 a day
    Option 3 - $66.57 a day
    Option 4 - $18.23 a day

    So if you paid for Option 3 and couldn't log in for 3 days then that means you lost almost $200. See how people could possibly get aggrivated? Of course there is the refund and that's what I told myself, but then people got even more upset when it seemed like refunds weren't being given out. I agree this is only the first few days and that's too early to request a refund, but everyone is in different financial situations and honestly when the customer service number is not working then eyebrows start raising.

    Personally I'm focusing on setting up campaigns so that I can cover my costs so that this much money isn't as critical to me and that's the best action I think everyone who is still in should take now. Try to get an extension, move on and get down to business... there is a reason we signed up, remember? If it doesn't work for you in the days left then get a refund.

    BTW Steve I'll try to ask you again... any idea when the forums are going to be back up?? If you don't know then just be direct and say you don't know.
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      Originally Posted by Yusuf View Post

      The least they could do is simply extend the 30 day period.
      I have already recommended this to Chris, and I am very sure it will be
      extended to accommodate the server issues we had in the beginning.
      There will be an announcement soon, and then our doors shut ...

      Every customer will have at least three weeks to decide if they want
      to maintain their membership. I feel sorry for the people who asked for
      a refund straight away, because they will never get back in - at any
      price. (Just for the record, the refund rate has been extremely low)

      I also feel really, really sorry for our competitors. GCD was WAY better
      than *anything* else on the market before we even launched, and the
      influx of new membership fees gives us the opportunity to grow and
      improve beyond belief.

      GCD is more than a tool ... it's a community of people that believe in
      the idea of selling affiliate products through Pay Per Click advertising.

      The best tools and the best training.

      The forums are being fixed. The login details are auto-populated by
      the back-end system, and it has become quite tricky to get this all
      going correctly. Sales are still coming in quickly, and we need to pull
      the forum integration until GCD shuts the order system later tonight.

      Originally Posted by Yusuf View Post

      The main mistake they made during the launch
      is the lack of remaining in contact with the customers
      I completely agree. The entire contact system, membership registration
      and forum membership back-end were all tied together, and when one
      part of the system went down, it made it impossible to email everyone.

      Chris did send out emails through Aweber, but they delay all blasts over
      a period of time anyway - and the staggered delays caused even more
      issues. We are not excusing ourselves. We acknowledge the issues we
      face, and have already developed a stunning plan to reward our very
      patient customers.

      I'm not just saying all this either ... it's the truth. It's damn hard to keep
      a collection of complicated servers online, 24/7 under insane "better than
      expected" sales conditions.

      And for all the haters who think they could have done it better ...

      Why don't you? We are actively looking for more programmers now.
      Please submit your resume (customers only) and we look foward to
      hearing from you.

      Our server farm, the back-end, and our support team were overwhelmed.
      We admit it. Things are back on track now, and you will be pleasantly
      surprised by how quickly things are beginning to move ...

      This is not some cheap bit of software. It's not even a "tool".

      GCD is a "soon be be closed" community of PPC Affiliate Marketers, who
      given a few weeks - will be in a devastatingly effective position to find,
      clone and dominate campaigns in thousands of niches online. I feel so
      sorry for those who miss out now.
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      • Profile picture of the author mike_f
        I'm not here to support or bash GCD, I wanted to ask Scott (or any GCD related person) if he know when the "Add Keywords" feature will work as advertised? It has not been working since I signed up on Tue (3/10).

        I've submitted one ticket, sent 2 emails and posted 2 posts in the GCD forum. It is a critical feature for me to test and use GCD. (Sorry to post here, not sure what else can I do).

        Thank you,
        Mike
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        • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
          In some cases, we have been forced to pull parts of the system offline. We
          are aware of the issue, and have been actively updating the software and
          the entire back-end (both software and hardware).

          We have a team of programmers behind this ...

          This is not a "one man show" - and we're adding extra functionality to the system
          as we continue to make it more robust. We have already taken on board a load of
          suggestions from brand new customers. Things are accelerating and once our doors
          close tonight, we will restore functionality where necessary. We are not sitting still
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          • Profile picture of the author mike_f
            Originally Posted by NewQuestions View Post

            In some cases, we have been forced to pull parts of the system offline. We
            are aware of the issue, and have been actively updating the software and
            the entire back-end (both software and hardware).

            We have a team of programmers behind this ...

            This is not a "one man show" - and we're adding extra functionality to the system
            as we continue to make it more robust. We have already taken on board a load of
            suggestions from brand new customers. Things are accelerating and once our doors
            close tonight, we will restore functionality where necessary. We are not sitting still
            So do you know when the "Add Keywords" feature will work as advertised? (not new functionality).

            Just FYI, I need to plan my time around my traveling plan to test GCD, that is why I need to know when is the ETA of that critical feature (as advertised, not new functionality). I do not want to refund as others here, I wanted to give GCD a chance, but you got to help me out here. Thanks.

            Mike
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          • Profile picture of the author Hadrian
            Originally Posted by NewQuestions View Post

            ... and once our doors close tonight [Sunday Mar 15]...
            Email just received from Chris says:

            "The Google Cash Detective will be closing the doors on
            Monday, March 16th at Midnight."

            I guess the left and right hands of GCD are not communicating. :confused:

            More disappointing is the fact that his email contains no apology, explanation or acceptance of responsibility for the shambles of the launch. So either the situation is being wilfully ignored, or it's part of a sequence prepared before the launch, in which case the other statements therein cannot have been known at the time it was prepared.

            'Hoist' and 'petard' come to mind!
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            • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
              Originally Posted by Hadrian View Post

              "The Google Cash Detective will be closing the doors on Monday, March 16th at Midnight."
              Thanks for the update Hadrian! I quoted incorrectly that GCD was
              closing tonight, when in fact it is tomorrow night. The closing date did
              not change. (I just have not slept in 66 hours and quoted incorrectly)

              Originally Posted by Hadrian View Post

              ... it's part of a sequence prepared before the launch, in which case the other statements therein cannot have been known at the time it was prepared.
              You are correct - the pre-written email that you received is part of our
              launch autoresponder sequence. It lets our prospects know when the
              doors are closing. Thanks for pointing that out. As I mentioned earlier,
              the GCD customer mailing system experienced problems when the rest
              of the servers went down. Chris did send out several emails via Aweber
              and will issue an official statement soon. We are aware of the issues
              and look forward to offering clarification and an apology to customers.

              Originally Posted by Hadrian View Post

              ... shambles of the launch ...
              GCD continues to grow very quickly, and we are making steady progress.
              You are expressing your own personal opinion here (which you are more
              than entitled to do) and we would be extremely happy to issue you a
              full refund, and a personal apology Hadrian.

              Come to think of it - are you actually a proper customer Hadrian?

              Originally Posted by Hadrian View Post

              'Hoist' and 'petard' come to mind!
              Impressive! Definition of Petard (Courtesy of Wikipedia)
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              • Profile picture of the author Hadrian
                Originally Posted by NewQuestions View Post

                Come to think of it - are you actually a proper customer Hadrian?
                I'm neither a proper nor an improper customer, just a prospective customer (until midnight tonight) doing 'due diligence'.

                I don't think that my customer status invalidates my opinions, although it probably does reduce my chances of getting the offered refund.
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      • Profile picture of the author Coderjeff
        Originally Posted by NewQuestions View Post

        Why don't you? We are actively looking for more programmers now.
        Please submit your resume (customers only) and we look foward to
        hearing from you.
        Is there an email address to submit them to?
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  • Profile picture of the author WhosMaverick
    Just wondering if the training videos will be organized in a easier manner to get through....

    With so many videos available, and short (if any description), it isnt very productive to watch ALL one after another just to figure out what the video itself is about.

    Any chance they will be better organized so as to save us time going through them all?

    Just curious...
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      Yes - most certainly. The huge support issues forced us to pull all of our trainers
      off their normal duties and attend the email barrage. We have already put up hours
      of new training footage, and the actual GCD member's area contains a lot of content.

      The training blog contains over 500 comments, and we have about 2,000 ready
      for posting. We have also hired more trainers to accommodate new customers.

      Actually ... training is something we have really ramped up. As our membership grew,
      we realized this was no longer just a tool. It has become an amazing community of
      PPC marketers. We have new training videos going up every day, along with constant
      webinars, email based training, and our new bonuses will offer even more content ...

      Our main trainers and our support staff are constantly updating the materials, and
      we will have things "ship-shape" in the next couple of days. There is already a LOT
      of material, so start working through it. Most customers will need to watch the
      videos a few times until key concepts sink in.
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    • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
      Originally Posted by WhosMaverick View Post

      Just wondering if the training videos will be organized in a easier manner to get through....

      With so many videos available, and short (if any description), it isnt very productive to watch ALL one after another just to figure out what the video itself is about.

      Any chance they will be better organized so as to save us time going through them all?

      Just curious...
      Can someone from GCD address this request please?
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      • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
        Originally Posted by Purplemagic View Post

        Can someone from GCD address this request please?
        Actually, I did previously. The post timing of our messages may have led
        you to miss my answer shown below:

        Originally Posted by NewQuestions View Post

        Yes - most certainly. The huge support issues forced us to pull all of our trainers
        off their normal duties and attend the email barrage. We have already put up hours
        of new training footage, and the actual GCD member's area contains a lot of content.

        The training blog contains over 500 comments, and we have about 2,000 ready
        for posting. We have also hired more trainers to accommodate new customers.

        Actually ... training is something we have really ramped up. As our membership grew,
        we realized this was no longer just a tool. It has become an amazing community of
        PPC marketers. We have new training videos going up every day, along with constant
        webinars, email based training, and our new bonuses will offer even more content ...

        Our main trainers and our support staff are constantly updating the materials, and
        we will have things "ship-shape" in the next couple of days. There is already a LOT
        of material, so start working through it. Most customers will need to watch the
        videos a few times until key concepts sink in.
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        • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
          Originally Posted by NewQuestions View Post

          Actually, I did previously. The post timing of our messages may have led
          you to miss my answer shown below:
          Not good enough...there are 1 or 2 of us on here that are struggling to understand some of the material presented in the training videos. We paid our money expecting..at the very least..watch this first, then this ,then this etc. Whilst I agree there is a plethora of videos to watch..there is also the issue of time constraints. Why would I watch a video with just a date as an indicator of its subject? I have already submitted a request for a refund...however I'm now leaning toward asking for that to be cancelled..it hasn't been acknowledged anyway inspite of two tickets. I'm beginning to see that there might be value in GCD however I want to be guided in what I should watch/listen to sequentially. I'm in PPC Classroom and THEY understand the meaning of sequential training...why can't GCD? It is alright for you..the experienced players to say just go through the videos a few times....frankly that just smacks of "look we can't be bothered...you figure it out! I don't think I'm being unreasonable here.
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  • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
    Guys - I really appreciate your need for exact times and dates, but things are fluid.
    It might sound like I'm side-stepping the question, but the reality is ... I cannot give
    you an exact time without putting my self in a position to be called a liar ...

    There are a few people in this thread, who have shown their true colors.

    They took things very personally - and decided to swear publicly. They also
    labeled our team a bunch of scammers, and questioned valid GCD testimonials,
    they attacked anyone who supported our product and our team, and they have
    spouted their own ill-informed opinions on almost every topic.

    And, they would seize on any opportunity to call me a liar. So, please know
    that our team is working as hard as possible (sounds a little cliche right?) and
    Chris will be sending out an official update soon. I know your time is valuable,
    and I know it can be deadly hard to organize your time around this tool. I'm
    hoping GCD can help you save time in the future, to pay you back (if that
    makes sense. lol)

    The GCD system offers a LOT of different ways to cut and slice the data.
    Adding your own keywords is extremely important, but in the mean time,
    check out the months of data on your competitors.

    You can search via their URLs, landing pages and even ad copy. This can
    offer some unbelievable insight into keyword generation, and may allow you
    to expand into new and exciting areas - while we restore the "add keyword"
    functionality. Thanks for understanding, and I hope you can still spend your
    time productively, even without this feature. We are working hard and fast!
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    Originally Posted by NewQuestions View Post


    There are a few people in this thread, who have shown their true colors.

    They took things very personally - and decided to swear publicly. They also
    labeled our team a bunch of scammers, and questioned valid GCD testimonials,
    they attacked anyone who supported our product and our team, and they have
    spouted their own ill-informed opinions on almost every topic.
    True colors? You mean told the truth?

    Ill-informed opinions? :rolleyes:

    If any of that was aimed at me as many of your other post, I can assure you that it is more than an "ill-informed" opinion. I BOUGHT this product, and with all of your server problems, the one that took money out of my account, seemed to be working just fine!

    I posted my experience and my opinion of the customer service or "LACK" there of, and the product... after of course...I was FINALLY able to sign in.

    Where were all of you on launch day? There were very upset and concern people in here that spent their money on this product!

    You have waited until the dust settled from the nightmare launch to come in here and get up on your soap box to defend this "God Like" product. In fact, I believe that your first post after launch was on 3/15 and Steve's was on 3/14...hmmm

    Your in here pointing fingers at all of us who were trying to get some answers since 3/10..now you all show up to do damage control by blasting us and side stepping the real issues, not to mention taken responsibility!

    Credibility is based on actions, not words!
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      Originally Posted by Michele Whitley View Post

      True colors? You mean told the truth?
      I have been nothing but honest in this thread. Others have been keen
      to share their opinions. Many times opinions are not based on the truth.

      Originally Posted by Michele Whitley View Post

      I BOUGHT this product, and with all of your server problems, the one that took money out of my account, seemed to be working just fine!
      Yes - the GCD ordering system was handled by a 3rd party provider and
      worked flawlessly. I believe you were refunded. Is that correct?
      Originally Posted by Michele Whitley View Post

      Where were all of you on launch day?
      The team noticed major problems hours before the official launch time.
      We tried as hard as possible to resolve things, and we eventually began
      to take orders about an hour after our official launch time. When the
      authentication servers crashed, the rest of our team were working hard
      to resolve the issues and bring everything back online ...

      We began answering emails within seconds of being live, and received
      thousands and thousands within the first 30 minutes. As you know, the
      launch blog had over 7,000 comments on it ... it was pretty popular.

      Communication was difficult because the GCD back-end went down,
      and it was tied to the authentication server, which had all of the new
      customer details, including their email addresses and so forth ...
      Originally Posted by Michele Whitley View Post

      There were very upset and concern people in here that spent their money on this product!
      We understand this point. In fact, there were a lot of unhappy people,
      including ourselves. Instead of spending time in the Warrior Forum, we
      had to address critical issues that threatened the entire launch. Our
      team replied to emails as they arrived in chronological order. As we
      mentioned before, some customers sent up to 50 emails, messages,
      phone calls, private messages in the forums etc. The sheer quantity
      of support requests overwhelmed our team. This can happen ...
      Originally Posted by Michele Whitley View Post

      You have waited until the dust settled from the nightmare launch to come in here and get up on your soap box to defend this "God Like" product ... now you all show up to do damage control by blasting us and side stepping the real issues, not to mention taken responsibility!
      Actually - this is not damage control. I'm just using this thread as a nice
      way to build a FAQ on our launch day issues. The forums are down, and
      the support system is under strain. This unique discussion thread allows
      me to hear customer concerns, and try and offer some clarity.
      Originally Posted by Michele Whitley View Post

      Credibility is based on actions, not words!
      I believe you were refunded is that correct? We are really sorry for the
      4 days of painful down-time, and Chris will address this in a statement
      soon. You mentioned responsibility above - and our recent actions
      have allowed thousands and thousands of customers to login to the
      GCD system. The training system has hundreds of positive comments
      along with thousands that are yet to be moderated.

      Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

      Being a wise-ass prick likely won't get you anything but a few more refunds.
      Point taken. This is a serious operation, and all refunds will be made
      gladly. If you would like a full refund, please contact our support staff.
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  • Profile picture of the author mido
    stevescott

    It would really help to have the guarantee and membership extended by about 5 days. I sent Chris and support few emails on this subject.

    Second point - to reopen the forum.

    Third - to Organize Training links: pure GCD training section and other motivational and miscellaneous tips and ideas in another section.

    There has been definitely a lot of progress in the last week.
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      Originally Posted by mido View Post

      It would really help to have the guaranty and membership extended by about 5 days. I sent Chris and support few emails on this subject.
      I know for a fact, that all payments and re-bills will be extended, and
      your guarantee is solid. Chris will be making a statement on this soon,
      but I know from him (he just emailed me) that all customers will get
      additional time to consider GCD based on the launch delays we
      experienced.

      Originally Posted by mido View Post

      Second point - to reopen the forum.
      The programmers are working very hard on this. The forum is even
      more important than our blogs. We have also hired more moderators
      and the forums should be back on track soon. Believe me ... I don't
      like doing this "back and forth" thing out here in the Warrior Forum.

      I would rather do this inside the GCD membership area, where only
      real customers can offer their opinion. Point taken though - and the
      forums are the top of our list, along with the "Add keyword" function
      which is scheduled to live on Tuesday morning (according to Steve)

      Originally Posted by mido View Post

      Third - to Organize Training links: pure GCD training section and other motivational and miscellaneous tips and ideas in another section.
      Yes - I admit, the organisation of the training material is not that great.
      In fact, we have loads more material that we haven't even uploaded yet
      because our training staff (the people you hear on video, and those who
      are working behind the scenes) are actually working on support emails.

      The training system will be the star feature of GCD. Please accept my
      apologies if it does not meet your needs at the moment. I can only
      promise better organization when we close our doors at midnight
      tomorrow, and restore staff to the real duties.

      Originally Posted by mido View Post

      There has been definitely a lot of progress in the last week.
      Thanks for the vote of confidence!
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      • Profile picture of the author mike_f
        Originally Posted by NewQuestions View Post

        I would rather do this inside the GCD membership area, where only
        real customers can offer their opinion. Point taken though - and the
        forums are the top of our list, along with the "Add keyword" function
        which is scheduled to live on Tuesday morning (according to Steve)
        Jonathan (NewQuestions) and Steve,

        I will take your words that Tue is when the "Add Keywords" feature will be working. I need that critical feature to use GCD as more than half of the keywords in the various niches that I'm actively working on are not in the database. After spending so much on this, I will wait for 2 more days, but not any longer, please deliver the promise.

        Mike
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        • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
          Originally Posted by mike_f View Post

          ... please deliver the promise ...Mike
          Thanks for the vote of confidence Mike! We really do appreciate it.
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          • Profile picture of the author probizlink
            I have been a member of GCD since Jan 30th and did not have any problems until launch.
            There were fewer videos then..but when I submitted a question it was always answered
            promptly and once personally by Chris. I really do feel they will address all concerns in
            the near future. I am usually the first to point out things that are not working.

            GCD was working great the first month.
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            • Profile picture of the author Coderjeff
              Originally Posted by bkroberson View Post

              I have been a member of GCD since Jan 30th and did not have any problems until launch.
              There were fewer videos then..but when I submitted a question it was always answered promptly and once personally by Chris. I really do feel they will address all concerns in the near future. I am usually the first to point out things that are not working.

              GCD was working great the first month.
              My experience was about the the same. I too joined in January and GCD was working fine until the launch.

              The Google Cash 4 training videos weren't coming as fast as promised, but there was usually a quick reply to any questions about GCD and new features were being added regularly. I haven't used GCA so I can't say anything about it.

              My opinion is that there should have been more training in place before the launch and it happened too soon. What's done is done and they appear to be working to address those issues. Most likely their actions during this week will reveal what can be expected in the future.

              Unfortunately, I believe that too many inexperienced members all jumped into the same niches based upon the examples in the sales material or training that was available and were competing with each other and paying too much per click without understanding how the system could be used profitably. My impression was that the beta testers who had PPC and affiliate experience were able to use GCD profitably, but the tool may have been too powerful for those without experience and more training at very basic levels will be necessary to use it successfully.

              The lack of service and support was a major problem and I hope will be addressed. The system is good if you know how to use it. I would also like to see Google Cash 4 completed soon. Putting the tool ahead of training that explained the reasons rather than the nut and bolts of using the tool was a mistake.

              It's unfortunate they chose to launch and add more members prematurely and they are really going to have to prove themselves. I wouldn't blame anyone who has already decided to get a refund, and I was having huge doubts myself for a time, but I suggest that anyone who is on the fence hang in there and take advantage of the opportunity to learn what you can - even if you eventually decide on a refund. Just seeing how and if they turn things around could be a valuable experience and may provide a good (or bad) example of how to handle problems in your own business.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    I believe you were refunded. Is that correct?
    I believe you were refunded is that correct?
    No actually I have not been refunded yet. I was told I would be, and I clearly stated that as soon as the money get's back into my account..I will make a post stating that.

    I do find it interesting that the only response you have to offer people who complain is

    we would be extremely happy to issue you a
    full refund
    This is a serious operation, and all refunds will be made
    gladly. If you would like a full refund, please contact our support staff.

    I for one would be "EXTREMELY HAPPY" to get that refund.
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      Originally Posted by Michele Whitley View Post

      No actually I have not been refunded yet. I was told I would be, and I clearly stated that as soon as the money get's back into my account..I will make a post stating that ...
      ... I for one would be "EXTREMELY HAPPY" to get that refund.
      Yes - I double checked and your refund has been processed. It is however
      the weekend, and banks don't usually operate over this time period.

      You will receive the refund payment within 5 days. I really wish I could
      speed that up for you. Thanks for your continued patience Michele.
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  • Profile picture of the author RBadgley
    I have been watching this forum since the launch of GCT and some of the comments are absolutely vicious and I have to believe some members have an ax to grind with this product. But it has taught me one thing that you can not judge a product from any input from here. I have not bought this product but I have a friend that has and he has started off slow but it is working. For me I have opted to try PPC Kahuna but only because of the cost of the products if I had the upfront funds for GCD I would have bought based on my friend's experience. Not any input from here.
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  • Profile picture of the author bidmarket
    Steve Scott or New Questions,
    Could you provide a general outline of things you would study and in the order you would study them?
    thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author Shevd
    I really hope things improve for the gcd team and the people that brought it as it was a very high ticket product.
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  • Profile picture of the author colbyarmstrong
    Is anyone else who has gcd try to do a search and it comes out zero results every time? This has been going on with me for the last 3 days and I just want to make sure its just not me.
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      Originally Posted by colbyarmstrong View Post

      Is anyone else who has gcd try to do a search and it comes out zero results every time? This has been going on with me for the last 3 days and I just want to make sure its just not me.
      This happens if the keyword is not inside the GCD database. I just checked
      and the database is running fine. I did five keyword queries on random ideas
      and they all returned thousands of results.

      Also - please note - if you do a keyword search with the word "Google",
      the results are often not shown. This relates to how Google structures the
      requirements of its APIs.

      Could you let me know the type of search (perhaps via private message)
      and I will try and replicate your situation?

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author colbyarmstrong
        Originally Posted by NewQuestions View Post

        This happens if the keyword is not inside the GCD database. I just checked
        and the database is running fine. I did five keyword queries on random ideas
        and they all returned thousands of results.

        Also - please note - if you do a keyword search with the word "Google",
        the results are often not shown. This relates to how Google structures the
        requirements of its APIs.

        Could you let me know the type of search (perhaps via private message)
        and I will try and replicate your situation?

        Thanks
        This happens every time i try to do ANY kind of search. It just flashes and then doesn't bring back any results. Whether I do a KW or URL search. Even for searches that I have gotten results before.

        This has been happening every since Friday night. I really need this taken care of ASAP

        Thank You
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    • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
      It happened to me soooooo many times, plus i searched for loads of urls which it never returned anything
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      • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
        Originally Posted by checkmuldoon View Post

        It happened to me soooooo many times, plus i searched for loads of urls which it never returned anything
        I am interested to know more. Please private message me with your URLs.
        The software is running very well, and is returning hundreds of thousands
        of queries every day now. I am here to help

        Thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
          i can't PM you, i went through all this with your support they could not find anything on them either. The ad i wanted to do research on appears everytime for make money online in the top three positions, so i know they are using adwords, your support however said it did not show up when they searched.. basically they reckoned it was because he was a UK advertiser it was not showing up for them. Now the thing is the UK is were i am based and a lot of my competitors are also UK based and GCD didn't have any data for around ten urls i searched for whether this is because they are UK based or not i dunno, FACT is it did not work, if UK is not supported you should say so from the start..........
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          • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
            Originally Posted by checkmuldoon View Post

            ... if UK is not supported you should say so from the start..........
            Actually - Chris does say this in one of the launch videos. This is why
            you're receiving zero results. Only US Adwords monitoring is in place now.

            However, I know for 100% fact, that the UK and AU localisation is being
            tested behind the scenes, and the local versions are being added soon.

            I do understand your point though, and I will tell the copywriters that the
            US local restriction should be stated more clearly. That's an excellent point.
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            • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
              maybe you should advise your support to so they can answer queries better !!! Well once the UK is included it would interest me as i had a business model which would be cool if it worked !!!! I must say the way you have handled the topic on here is first rate!
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      • Profile picture of the author Collegepro
        Originally Posted by checkmuldoon View Post

        It happened to me soooooo many times, plus i searched for loads of urls which it never returned anything
        I'm having the same problem - I cannot get any url search results - I just get messages like - [2] URLs search: Your search session expired. Please search again

        Is this a known problem at the moment?
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        • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
          Originally Posted by Collegepro View Post

          I'm having the same problem - I cannot get any url search results - I just get messages like - [2] URLs search: Your search session expired. Please search again

          Is this a known problem at the moment?
          The GCD software is working well. I just checked, and we have had no
          major issues for 48 hours now. Usually when your search query expires,
          it's because you have not done a search for quite a while - or perhaps
          if you change your membership details, password etc.

          Try logging back into the software, and performing the search again.

          Also, be aware - that if the keyword/advertiser is not in the database,
          then it will return 0 results. Also, if the keyword/advertiser is not using
          Google Adwords in the United States, the results will appear as zero.

          I have checked the software a LOT this morning. (I mean hours worth
          of activity, and I can't see any issues.)

          There are times when zero results are returned. This is not a fault of the
          software. It just means the keyword has not been "watched" - either
          because no one entered it into the database (through the add keywords
          tool), and because there is no one advertising specifically in the US for
          this particular keyword/advertisement combination.

          Hopefully that helps. Please private message me the details if you like.
          I can try and help out more

          Cheers,
          Jonathan
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    • Profile picture of the author Unexpected Error
      Originally Posted by colbyarmstrong View Post

      Is anyone else who has gcd try to do a search and it comes out zero results every time? This has been going on with me for the last 3 days and I just want to make sure its just not me.
      I have experienced this. Just click the button again and the results should come up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Any idea at all about when the GCD forums will be back up?
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      Originally Posted by Yusuf View Post

      Any idea at all about when the GCD forums will be back up?
      Yes - I discussed this with Steve, and when we stop taking orders (tonight),
      then the forum can be connected again. Basically, we need to wait until we
      shut down tonight, and then we can import the final customer database into
      the new forums. This auto-creates everyone's accounts and connects all
      support requests, forum posts, mailing details, membership details and lots
      of other data together.

      The programming team have done an amazing job, and the forums will be
      online really soon. I can't give you an exact time, but the forums are the
      number one priority as soon as the order system is shut down tonight.

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    In that case I'd suggest you tell them to add that to the message that is currently displayed when we try to go to the forums. One last question and not sure if it's too late but can you please suggest to them to use VBulletin or at least phpBB? SMF seems very clunky especially if the forums are to be used for an active community.
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      Originally Posted by Yusuf View Post

      In that case I'd suggest you tell them to add that to the message that is currently displayed when we try to go to the forums. One last question and not sure if it's too late but can you please suggest to them to use VBulletin or at least phpBB? SMF seems very clunky especially if the forums are to be used for an active community.
      Good points! Thanks for that. I have sent these ideas straight to the coders.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Sean
    New Questions,

    When is the Google Cash Detective close?

    Is the system stable now?

    If I where to share with others to join buy, can it be assessibled and use by 3 different computers at the same time from different locations?

    What is the different of GCD from AdsSpyPro and PPC Kahuna?
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    • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
      Originally Posted by Nick Sean View Post

      When is the Google Cash Detective close?
      Midnight tonight.
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  • Profile picture of the author cderenberger
    For a less advanced product, you can try AdSpyPro.. it's a script you will need to install on your server, works fairly well.. never tried GD though.. Looks like a great product but it's out of my price range..kinda like spending $50 on a burger in my opinion.
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    • Profile picture of the author vstar650
      Hey Guys

      Once again , I'm here to tell you that this FREAKIN' software works

      This morning I through a bunch of keywords at it and I came upon a Piece of equipment ( sorry, but I can't divulge what it is... I'm being Greedy) that is getting over 60,000 searches per month

      I did a little more research and found an affiliate program through commission junction that is paying 10& commission on the product which has an average cost of $1,500.00 ( that's 150.00 commission on average)


      I put together a direct linking campaign in about 10 minutes and now it is only 6 hours later and I have landed 1 sale already, with a total adspend of only 8.73 and a $137.63 commission... that's a $128.90 profit

      I'm telling you Guys/Girls... GCD is fu**ing amazing

      For all of you who had a rough time in the beginning, I don't blame you for being Skeptical... Hell, I was too, but my Gut Instincts told me to stick it out, and am I ever Glad I did!

      With all the Bugs (and Yes, lack of initial Support), Quite Honestly... GCD FREAKIN, ROCKS!!!

      Cio
      Gotta throw in some more Keywords
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      • Profile picture of the author Guru
        Originally Posted by vstar650 View Post

        Hey Guys

        Once again , I'm here to tell you that this FREAKIN' software works

        This morning I through a bunch of keywords at it and I came upon a Piece of equipment ( sorry, but I can't divulge what it is... I'm being Greedy) that is getting over 60,000 searches per month

        I did a little more research and found an affiliate program through commission junction that is paying 10& commission on the product which has an average cost of $1,500.00 ( that's 150.00 commission on average)


        I put together a direct linking campaign in about 10 minutes and now it is only 6 hours later and I have landed 1 sale already, with a total adspend of only 8.73 and a $137.63 commission... that's a $128.90 profit

        I'm telling you Guys/Girls... GCD is fu**ing amazing

        For all of you who had a rough time in the beginning, I don't blame you for being Skeptical... Hell, I was too, but my Gut Instincts told me to stick it out, and am I ever Glad I did!

        With all the Bugs (and Yes, lack of initial Support), Quite Honestly... GCD FREAKIN, ROCKS!!!

        Cio
        Gotta throw in some more Keywords
        Well done!

        I started one campaign yesterday with $1.00 a click now I am paying about $.32 a click and my CTR is 8.07% not made much money from this campaign so far but this is not bad!
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        • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
          Originally Posted by Guru View Post

          and my CTR is 8.07% ...
          Establishing a high click-through rate is easy with GCD.

          The software allows you to look back over the last 5 months,
          to identify the longest running advertisements - and these often
          have advertisements that attract a super high click-through rate.

          Cloning the actual Adwords advertisements is extremely effective,
          and it leads to more clicks, at lower costs with better Quality Scores.

          These variables, and a proven product can allow affiliates to make a
          serious income selling other people's products. Google Cash Detective
          is truly one of a kind. It simply cannot be compared fairly to its other
          competitors. Doors close in less than 7 hours.

          Believe me ... the doors are closing. I'm actually sitting here right now,
          designing the page that will replace our front-end. If you have any doubts,
          then I suggest you take Chris up on the 30 day guarantee period.

          (This is being extended as well, to accommodate our early launch delays)

          Good luck everyone, and thanks for the participation and readership in
          this discussion thread. I will jump back in a few days and update this
          thread. I am super busy right now with the final count-down so please
          direct all support queries to the GCD help desk.

          Thanks again
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      • Profile picture of the author Georgian
        Originally Posted by vstar650 View Post

        Hey Guys

        Once again , I'm here to tell you that this FREAKIN' software works

        This morning I through a bunch of keywords at it and I came upon a Piece of equipment ( sorry, but I can't divulge what it is... I'm being Greedy) that is getting over 60,000 searches per month

        I did a little more research and found an affiliate program through commission junction that is paying 10& commission on the product which has an average cost of $1,500.00 ( that's 150.00 commission on average)


        I put together a direct linking campaign in about 10 minutes and now it is only 6 hours later and I have landed 1 sale already, with a total adspend of only 8.73 and a $137.63 commission... that's a $128.90 profit

        I'm telling you Guys/Girls... GCD is fu**ing amazing

        For all of you who had a rough time in the beginning, I don't blame you for being Skeptical... Hell, I was too, but my Gut Instincts told me to stick it out, and am I ever Glad I did!

        With all the Bugs (and Yes, lack of initial Support), Quite Honestly... GCD FREAKIN, ROCKS!!!

        Cio
        Gotta throw in some more Keywords
        Hey!

        You are cool... 3x faster than me

        I did 3$ adspend and 45$ comm today!
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    I like it!
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    • Profile picture of the author drnet
      I can not tell you how much money I have already made with this tool... HE HE

      For those of you doubting, give it 30 days. I know there were some issues around the luanch, but hey that is the net. Spend enough time online and you will find that technical issues happen everywhere.

      I am one of the original 30 for beta testing and it ran flawlessly.

      It helped me make $17K in 30 days in my consulting business, and I am about to bring in MUCH more than that

      Keep it coming Chris
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  • There is a tool out there that does what gcd does and it only costs $29.99

    If you believe this guy has spent $350,000 on this then you will believe anything.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick.A
      Originally Posted by chips peas and gravy View Post

      There is a tool out there that does what gcd does and it only costs $29.99

      If you believe this guy has spent $350,000 on this then you will believe anything.
      What tool are you referring to?
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      • Profile picture of the author Guru
        Originally Posted by Nick.A View Post

        What tool are you referring to?
        THis guy must be talking about Ad spy Pro which you can get for $29 to $47 but there is big difference between that tool and GCD! You can't compare that $29 tool with GCD!
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        • Profile picture of the author AndreVas
          Originally Posted by Guru View Post

          THis guy must be talking about Ad spy Pro which you can get for $29 to $47 but there is big difference between that tool and GCD! You can't compare that $29 tool with GCD!
          Respectfully disagree.

          GCD script can easily be sold for $29 one-time for self-hosted version. It's too simple to program. Just stores data in MySQL DB. Everything else is AdSpyPro identical.

          Only advantage GCD2 has over AdSpyPro is it already has existing data to look at. With ASP, you gotta manually input the keywords and set for how long you want to monitor it. That's the ***ONLY*** difference.
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          • Profile picture of the author Nick.A
            Originally Posted by AndreVas View Post

            Respectfully disagree.

            GCD script can easily be sold for $29 one-time for self-hosted version. It's too simple to program. Just stores data in MySQL DB. Everything else is AdSpyPro identical.

            Only advantage GCD2 has over AdSpyPro is it already has existing data to look at. With ASP, you gotta manually input the keywords and set for how long you want to monitor it. That's the ***ONLY*** difference.
            No, it's ***NOT*** the only difference. Does AdSpyPro provide you with a landing page slide-show? How about training? And how much would you need to host it? All the good hosting companies have banned scripts like AdSpyPro from their shared hosting accounts, so you would have to host the script on a dedicated server or VPS.
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            • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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              Originally Posted by Nick.A View Post

              No, it's *** NOT *** the only difference. Does AdSpyPro provide you with a landing page slide-show? How about training? And how much would you need to host it? All the good hosting companies have banned scripts like AdSpyPro from their shared hosting accounts, so you would have to host the script on a dedicated server or VPS.
              The money you paid for GCD would pay for a really nice server.
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              • Profile picture of the author Nick.A
                Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                The money you paid for GCD would pay for a really nice server.
                That is true but at least let us not pretend that you could achieve the same functionality as GCD by paying just $29 for AdSpyPro!
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                • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                  Originally Posted by Nick.A View Post

                  That is true but at least let us not pretend that you could achieve the same functionality as GCD by paying just $29.99 for AdSpyPro!
                  I haven't used either so I don't know. I already own Adspy and will be using that shortly. I am sure it will do what I need it to do.

                  I really don't know if GCD was just overhype or this thing actually works. It is hard to tell with all the affiliates running around trying to make a quick buck.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Virtual Banker
                    Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                    I haven't used either so I don't know. I already own Adspy and will be using that shortly. I am sure it will do what I need it to do.

                    I really don't know if GCD was just overhype or this thing actually works. It is hard to tell with all the affiliates running around trying to make a quick buck.
                    Well one thing you can say for sure is that had a GREAT launch formula swiped directly from MC2.0

                    IF you can get any value out of it - swipe their launch.
                    As for the product it just depends how much you want to pay and how much hand holding you need.
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              • Profile picture of the author businessmentor
                Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                The money you paid for GCD would pay for a really nice server.
                +1.

                Before buying, decide what you really NEED. Then calculate and compare the costs.
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          • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
            Originally Posted by AndreVas View Post

            GCD script can easily be sold for $29 one-time for self-hosted version. It's too simple to program.
            Incorrect. Fail.
            Are you even a GCD customer?

            Originally Posted by AndreVas View Post

            Just stores data in MySQL DB. Everything else is AdSpyPro identical.
            Incorrect. Fail.

            Originally Posted by AndreVas View Post

            Only advantage GCD2 has over AdSpyPro is it already has existing data to look at. With ASP, you gotta manually input the keywords and set for how long you want to monitor it. That's the ***ONLY*** difference.
            Incorrect. Fail again man ...
            Are you even a GCD customer?

            Let me ask you a set of questions that I hope you have time to answer.
            (After all, you have just publicly made some big statements which I hope
            you can backup here in a public forum)

            Can AdSpyPro offer 6 months worth of data on 2.5 million keywords
            (and counting?) or just the ones you enter manually yourself?

            Oh yeah ... and upon entering them yourself ... you have to wait a
            while right? What - like 5 months to get comparable data? Too funny ...

            Does AdSpyPro allow you to dive deep into people's landing pages to
            find out what products they are promoting? Yes, landing page searches
            using an unbelievably complex parsing routine that stores millions of
            actual landing page sites into the GCD system ...

            Or how about the built-in "GC Automator" system that dynamically
            adjusts your bid prices by interfacing with Google Adwords to actively
            adapt your campaign over time, to produce the most profit at the
            lowest cost per click - while maintaining position. Does AdSpyPro
            - a $29.99 piece of software do that?

            Originally Posted by AndreVas View Post

            That's the ***ONLY*** difference.
            Hmmm ... not quite. lol

            Does AdSpyPro continue working when Google changes their rules,
            their rankings, their programming rituals and so on? Will the author
            keep on supporting you months from now, years from now? Does
            this mean your hard researched data is worthless without constant
            updates? Does that mean your data is rubbish and inaccurate?

            Does this mean you need to update AdSpyPro every time Google
            decides to change things around? (This happens almost daily now).

            Do you need to constantly fight to keep up with the latest changes?

            What sort of internet connection do you need to monitor over 4.5
            million keywords every DAY. Oh - that's right ... it's twice daily.
            Silly me ...

            I guess AdSpyPro doesn't really do that right?

            Originally Posted by AndreVas View Post

            That's the ***ONLY*** difference.
            Actually, I could spend an entire night outlining differences, but I just
            wanted to set the record straight, because your opinion is completely
            incorrect. These types of ill-informed opinions have defined this thread,
            but have helped it become the most popular discussion thread in Warrior
            Forum history (at least within this category).

            Final question. Are you even a GCD customer?

            I kind of get sick and tired of asking this question.
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            • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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              @ NewQuestions Well yes...I'm a GoogleCashDetective "customer" as you put it. An "Unhappy customer". If the tool and site did what you promised in your launch I'd be a happy camper. "Will the author keep on supporting you months from now, years from now?" Very funny. There's NO SUPPORT whatsoever at the moment and it's been what - a week after launch? All these excuses of yours just don't wash. The thing is a bloody disaster and you should be ashamed to be associated with it. You think it's going to get better? I very much doubt it. And BTW you're the guy that likes to pick apart websites in your videos. Start with your own. Start with having a clear "CONTACT" page and a "SUPPORT" system that works. We haven't paid chickenfeed for this thing. This is a serious chunk of change over the year. "A private community of like-minded people" - I like that bit. Bit like a sect then? Maybe a sect where the yoga-loving Guru gets around in a fleet of Rollers or something. But instead of distributing flowers from the window he's chucking out "hot keywords". ;-)

              Just re-read your post of 22 Feb. "Our main priority is looking after members. Growing too quickly would be very dangerous. In part - that is what made our previous launch "difficult" ".

              Looks like you didn't learn from that one eh?
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      Originally Posted by chips peas and gravy View Post

      There is a tool out there that does what gcd does and it only costs $29.99

      If you believe this guy has spent $350,000 on this then you will believe anything.
      Actually, if you believe a $29.99 tool can do "what gcd does"
      - then it sounds very much like you will "believe anything" ...

      Your first post at the Warrior Forum?

      Quick Question - Are you real GCD customer or not?


      I disagree with your statement, and you have blatantly called
      Chris Carpenter a liar, without providing any proof to your claims ...

      Would you care to name this $29.99 piece of software so I can publicly
      rip it to threads - exposing all of its weaknesses and pointing out why
      it's inferior in dozens of different ways to Google Cash Detective?

      I sure would love a copy - if it really does what you claim it does ...



      Hmm. Only a few hours left everyone

      I just got a load of messages, and yes - the doors are really closing.
      I will update this thread once GCD has closed.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nick.A
        Originally Posted by NewQuestions View Post



        Hmm. Only a few hours left everyone

        I have just visited https://launch.gcdetective.com/_new_gcdorder.html and it states that there is over 1 day left to order. So, has the closing date been extended again? Please clarify.

        Thanks.


        Edit: Sorry, I have just realised the figures are negative (implying that the offer has expired). To avoid confusion, I would suggest you either remove the counter altogether or reset it.
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    • Profile picture of the author malcasid
      Originally Posted by chips peas and gravy View Post

      There is a tool out there that does what gcd does and it only costs $29.99

      If you believe this guy has spent $350,000 on this then you will believe anything.
      What is this $29.99 tool called? Development costs not to mention hosting the software does not come cheap.
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  • Profile picture of the author mido
    AdSpyPro from JP is $27, you host it on your VPS or dedicated server and build your database. One time fee.

    PPC Bully from Israel and PPCShadow from Brad - more simillar to GCD, but you have to build your own database and have limited number to keywords. To add more keywords, you have have to pay more money - monthly.

    PPC WebSpy from Brad - very good to spy Adwords keywords, free and paid versions, one time fee.

    GCD2 - does it all and has large database already built-in. Does not compare to the above.
    They don't answer my support ticket and emails for few days - that's another issue.
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    • Profile picture of the author malcasid
      Originally Posted by mido View Post

      AdSpyPro from JP is $27, you host it on your VPS or dedicated server and build your database. One time fee.

      PPC Bully from Israel and PPCShadow from Brad - more simillar to GCD, but you have to build your own database and have limited number to keywords. To add more keywords, you have have to pay more money - monthly.

      PPC WebSpy from Brad - very good to spy Adwords keywords, free and paid versions, one time fee.

      GCD2 - does it all and has large database already built-in. Does not compare to the above.
      They don't answer my support ticket and emails for few days - that's another issue.
      I think GCD2 offers the highest value per dollar. You have the most capability. I'm not saying you can't make money with the other tools but its good to have the most powerful tools you can have especially when it comes to PPC.
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  • Profile picture of the author XGoogleX
    if some thing too good to be true is not.
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  • Profile picture of the author davez
    I'll give it a month and there will be a 29.95 product out there that mimics GCD. It's the nature of the Net. Seen it happen way too many times over the years.

    For the record PPC affiliate is OK.
    PPC_Kahuna is the best IMO.
    GCD only can go by the vids, but if it works as shown helluva piece of software, but a bit pricey.

    The Old Fashioned Way roll up your sleeves and get to WORK!
    Numero UNO.

    Now put your CC away get a nights sleep and wake up in the AM go over to PPC Kahuna and get to work. Learn how to fish.
    You won't have to scramble when that flashy piece of software doesn't want to work right for whatever reason.
    Just a prediction, but again seen it happen many times before.

    Hope a neutral opinion can shed a ray of Common Sense on a thread that used be locked tighter than a drum at this point.

    Night All,
    Dave
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  • Profile picture of the author AndreVas
    NewQuestions,

    Yes. Gladly a GCD2 customer. With a full $1997. Also a long AdSpyPro customer.

    As for fail... wrong.

    PASSED EVERYONE. 10/10. Flying colors. Couldn't have said it better.

    GCD2 script can be programmed in 5 days. Infact wouldn't be suprised if someone did, and decided to sell it for $97. Then by 2012, you'll have GCD scripts (self-hosted) for $5 on eBay.

    PASSED. lol.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by AndreVas View Post

      NewQuestions,

      Yes. Gladly a GCD2 customer. With a full $1997. Also a long AdSpyPro customer.

      As for fail... wrong.

      PASSED EVERYONE. 10/10. Flying colors. Couldn't have said it better.

      GCD2 script can be programmed in 1 day. Infact wouldn't be suprised if someone did, and decided to sell it for $97. Then by 2012, you'll have GCD scripts (self-hosted) for $5 on eBay.

      PASSED. lol.
      I really don't know anyone who has been praising GCD in this thread. I do know and have worked with Andre. I trust what he says. He is a very successful and very knowledgeable person when it comes to this stuff.

      He is also not selling either one.
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    • Profile picture of the author cms418
      PLease New Questions stop responding to morons who are only bashing a great product. I f#&ing love it so far!

      This thread is only being continued because of the people who cannot afford it have to make them selves feel better by throwing negative vibes in here.

      Those who can and did are working hard. Back to make more $$ and find more niches!
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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        Originally Posted by cms418 View Post

        PLease New Questions stop responding to morons who are only bashing a great product. I f#&ing love it so far!

        This thread is only being continued because of the people who cannot afford it have to make them selves feel better by throwing negative vibes in here.

        Those who can and did are working hard. Back to make more $$ and find more niches!
        This is entertaining to say the least. I really hope it is everything people claim it to be. Just for the sake of the honest people that spent the money on it.

        I would also like to state that this product's credibility is suffering a tad from all the no name responders with the small post counts.
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  • Profile picture of the author DonDavis
    New Questions- I really don't think you are doing your product any good with your smug attitude. You are coming across as a young cocky kid with a chip on his shoulder. Just an observation.
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      Originally Posted by DonDavis View Post

      New Questions- I really don't think you are doing your product any good with your smug attitude. You are coming across as a young cocky kid with a chip on his shoulder. Just an observation.
      Don't mistake my "smug attitude" with utter confidence in GCD.

      Also - it is my job to set the record straight. My regular 9-5 job ...

      And just in case anyone thinks I'm taking this personally - I am not.
      I love the "back and forth", and it has helped our support department
      tremendously.

      We are closing our doors in a less than 2 hours. Thanks to everyone.
      This has (and continues to be) an awesome Warrior thread!

      Unfortunately for the haters ... I am going to update this thread with
      dozens of happy comments and testimonials. I have been gathering
      them most of the day. This thread will hang around unless it gets
      locked - which is fine. It has served its purpose. 2 hours guys

      I'm going to sign off for a while. Time to start locking down the GCD
      system. I will be back with happy news, announcements, comments,
      success stories, video and written testimonials. Awesome stuff !!!
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      • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
        new questios what you doing with a 9 to 5 job just use your software and make $$$$$$$$$$$
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        • Profile picture of the author steitieh
          Originally Posted by checkmuldoon View Post

          new questios what you doing with a 9 to 5 job just use your software and make $$$$$$$$$$$
          Well, that's a shocker! I read through all the pages, and that's the only comment that shocked me!

          I am a member in GCD2... Was thinking, what if you had a "Magical" Butting within the tool that simply shows you the campaigns of profitability index of 100K+ ? or 10K+ etc. ? well, that by itself should the purpose of the software for the owners!

          That feature will never be out to members, otherwise, hmmm... I guess everybody is gonna be struggling to get into the same 100 winners ...

          I got nothing against GCD or you Jonathan, But GCD is way overpriced in my opinion..

          I also noticed that any keyword I search for gets stored in the DB, so I got no privacy of my own, what If I get a winner, everybody else gets the same chance to grab it.

          And yes, I did type a couple of keywords that returned nothing.

          Finally, I think its a good job done, but I doubt I'll continue with it.

          That's just me!

          Good luck

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          • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
            [quote=steitieh;613817]Well, that's a shocker! I read through all the pages, and that's the only comment that shocked me!


            Well your easily shocked then or have no sense of humour !!!!
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              Originally Posted by steitieh View Post

              Well, that's a shocker! I read through all the pages, and that's the only comment that shocked me!


              Well your easily shocked then or have no sense of humour !!!!
              huh? Let me re-phrase it! it wasnt your "COMMENT" that shocked me, but the fact that Jonathan Had a 9-5 job while having a treasure laying around!

              1 DB query Jonathan, top 1000 Markets please..


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              • Profile picture of the author vencedor08
                I had access to GCD for two days only because all the login problems they were having and All I can say is that is the best tool on PPC Spy I have ever seen. I had to ask for a refund because I realised that for me it is too expensive at this moment.

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                • Profile picture of the author vstar650
                  It's been only 5 days since I first put GCD to work and I have recouped my investment already

                  I realize that the price point is out of reach for most, but quite honestly, if you are not already earning a enough income online to afford GCD then you are probably not advanced enough to make it work for you anyway

                  I know I'm Gonna get some backlash for that last statement, but I really believe it to be true!

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                    Its true. I am working on it.
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        • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
          Originally Posted by checkmuldoon View Post

          new questios what you doing with a 9 to 5 job just use your software and make $$$$$$$$$$$
          I like to help other people. I always have ... and money does not drive
          my every decision in my life. I have enough money. I like my job working
          my regular 9-5 job with the crew at GCD.

          I do it out of love, not just for money.

          Chris and I have been using this software for almost 3 years. So when
          you say "just use your software and make $$$" - I'm happy to say I have,
          I am, and I will continue to use GCD to make an insane killing. lol
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      • Profile picture of the author assoc
        Originally Posted by NewQuestions View Post

        Don't mistake my "smug attitude" with utter confidence in GCD.

        Also - it is my job to set the record straight. My regular 9-5 job ...

        And just in case anyone thinks I'm taking this personally - I am not.
        I love the "back and forth", and it has helped our support department
        tremendously.

        We are closing our doors in a less than 2 hours. Thanks to everyone.
        This has (and continues to be) an awesome Warrior thread!

        Unfortunately for the haters ... I am going to update this thread with
        dozens of happy comments and testimonials. I have been gathering
        them most of the day. This thread will hang around unless it gets
        locked - which is fine. It has served its purpose. 2 hours guys

        I'm going to sign off for a while. Time to start locking down the GCD
        system. I will be back with happy news, announcements, comments,
        success stories, video and written testimonials. Awesome stuff !!!
        Hi

        I would just like to add my two cents.

        I bought GCD when it first came out and I also bought adspypro. On hostgator they kept blocking adspy so I never really got to use it so I cant say if it works or not. I will try again. In regards to GCD I have been playing around with it again since I got the email about being a beta tester which

        I didn't participate in. Anyway I love this software
        and its ok with me if people dont use it cause its less adwords competition for me to compete with. Hey lets face it adwords is very competitive and you can lose alot money fast if you dont know what you are doing. In one of the training sessions this week I learned how to save 50 dollars a day with one adwords test campaign.

        The training goes on 5 days a week with 5 webinars Which could easily be worth the price of the software it self.. I tried to research campaigns with out gcd just to see what I could do and I felt like a blind man. With gcd I can see all your best ads and best keywords in 5 mins. The data is only days old not 30 days like some people have suggested.

        This is just my observation. Im not affiliated with gcd in any way other that a happy customer.It takes a little while to learn how to use it but nothing that is hard. In terms of up time it always works for me except for a couple days after the launch but I expected that no big deal.

        So Im busily working to create successful campaigns to prove that it works. If you try to clone the top 5 products on clickbak good luck . Not to say it cant be done but as Chris has said there are thousands of profitable ones to go after. I wanted to say thanks to Chris for giving me hope in a market that is hard to break into.

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  • Profile picture of the author JoshB
    IMO GCD has been very helpful to me and I would personally recommend anyone to give it a try. If you dont think it will be worth your $$$ then dont buy it! but if you have the money try it out and you'll see it will pay itself back in no time if used to its full potential. just thought id give my feedback
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  • Profile picture of the author JoshB
    Newquestions I am a GCD customer and i can tell you i am absolutely 100% satisfied with what it has blessed me with. with all the no named responders ruining the rep of GCD and what-not I would Like to say try it if you dont like it get your money back. but it is an investment for your future and it is a heck of a good product. I have already recommended it to many of my friends because I feel I need to share my findings and not just keep it in and be greedy. To all of you who doesn't want to buy it because it 'cost too much' well if you think that is too much well you should think about how many people out there put money into other products out there which after they purchased only found out it was filled with 'junk' and 'outdated' information which we all know already doesnt work. if you got the money buy it, if you dont believe its worth it dont. simple
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  • Profile picture of the author mido
    First - I'm user of both: AdSpyPro and GCD2.

    Second - AdSpyPro is $27 (not $29, it used to be $67 in 2007).
    It has been for almost 2 years on the market and has the latest update for Google and YAHOO (which GCD2 is lacking).
    AdSpyPro supports 131 data centers - different countries - for both Google and Yahoo - GCD2 not, only Google US.
    You store your data Privately on your VPS or dedicated server which obviously costs money, but it is your private database.

    Obviously GCD2 has many other advantages, Instant access to big database, LP, affiliates, merchants and URL searches, wildcards, and many other options for creative users - that's why I have both.
    Hopefully Yahoo will be added soon and international datacenters as well.

    NewQuestions - it would be nice if you could sign your posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author JayStarr
    I just joined up now YES.. after the official launch has closed..

    And I must say.. NO log in problems and the detective seems to function nicely, no complaints on my end.

    I think / hope to be a very satisfied customer over time.

    PS: I got in after the launch because I found the back entrance, its still open if you want to jump in and not wait PM me and I'll send you the backdoor, and no its not an affiliate link just a little sneeky for the last person who does not want to miss out.

    Yes you will still need to pay, and all payment options are available etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    I think this thread has been a masterclass in how not to promote a new product.

    Every business messes up from time to time. New launches in Internet Marketing mess up quite frequently. What you do when something goes wrong is that you apologize and apologize and apologize. If customers get upset and are rude to you, you take it on the chin and never respond in kind.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by pearsonbrown View Post

      I think this thread has been a masterclass in how not to promote a new product.

      Every business messes up from time to time. New launches in Internet Marketing mess up quite frequently. What you do when something goes wrong is that you apologize and apologize and apologize. If customers get upset and are rude to you, you take it on the chin and never respond in kind.
      Exactly right. They have treated their new customers very badly. You wonder why we are "whining" as DarkSky puts it. I'm beyond whining - I'm ropeable. $2600+ they would have taken off me over a year and this is the treatment I get from the get-go. Still waiting on a "High Priority " Support ticket reply that is now 5 days old.

      And you know what? Stuff happens - they had major server problems etc and were overwhelmed by their "success" - but if they showed some class - if they kept us in the loop with a daily email, I might be prepared to wait a bit longer while they sort it out. But the only emails I get are from Chris boasting about the number of affiliate sales they've had and how much the affiliates like Frank Kern, Anik PPCClassroom and others are raking in - which only rubs salt in the wound. And then we have Jonathon Paul on this Forum rabbiting on about how their customers are the most important part. I'm not feeling the love here.
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      Originally Posted by GCDBeta View Post

      Hi Guys

      anyone wishes to join GCD for half the price?

      give me your email address and i'll contact you if you are interested...act quick tho..as this offer is closing this Friday 20th...
      Membership is closed (unless you are selling your membership?)
      which is fine, although it might be easier to ask for a refund ...
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        • Profile picture of the author nhazdy
          Not many people can afford this. Too expensive. PPC itself will cause some more damage.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    As promised, I have come to post that I did in fact receive the refund for GCD that I requested.

    I can say that this is the most satisfied I have been with this product since paying for it on 3/10!

    Best of luck to those who remain..
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  • Profile picture of the author Philipc
    Am a new user to GCD and PPC in general. Will say this though...I was a little irked that the problems up front surrounding the launch were not address by Chris in a more pro-active manner or that he could not have foreseen the surge in demand (i.e. more emails keeping us informed of problems etc.). Other than that, no problems so far. I fully intend to test drive for 30 days to see if it suits me. What more can I ask?
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      Originally Posted by Philipc View Post

      Am a new user to GCD and PPC in general. Will say this though...I was a little irked that the problems up front surrounding the launch were not address by Chris in a more pro-active manner or that he could not have foreseen the surge in demand (i.e. more emails keeping us informed of problems etc.). Other than that, no problems so far. I fully intend to test drive for 30 days to see if it suits me. What more can I ask?
      Yes - I agree. It was super unfortunate, and our ability to communicate
      with customers was made very difficult, because the mailing system was
      (and continues to be) built into the back-end software.

      Chris did send out several Aweber emails, but the staggered way Aweber
      sends information meant that important details were being delivered at the
      exact same time to everyone.

      However - I completely agree with your point. The server issues and the
      lack of clear communication were certainly very low points for the team.
      I'm hoping we can restore a little confidence with our announcements
      and some unadvertised stuff
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  • Profile picture of the author jblack
    I truly belive in good training. I think that GCD is exactly that. However, with that being said, I don't think this product is for the newbie. You must have a working knowledge of PPC and Google before you attenpt to use this and be successful.

    If a newbie is considering this, I believe your money is better spent on other broad trainings until your knowledge base can handle this in depth system.

    I like it and I will use it, but I have been working PPC for years now, and everything has its flaws, I think it will all get ironed out.
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      Originally Posted by jblack View Post

      I truly belive in good training. I think that GCD is exactly that.
      Actually, as one of the trainers - I *know* we can do a lot, lot better.

      Chris and I are rolling out new videos, and our staff has grown very
      quickly to accommodate new GCD customers.

      I'm sure everyone is aware of the issues we faced in the first 48 hours.

      We basically had to pull our entire training staff off their duties, and put
      them on customer support. Thousands and thousands of emails had to
      be answered as quickly as possible.

      Things are getting back to normal now. The customer databases are
      working and so is the mailing system. Chris is about to send out one
      hell of an email, that answers an awful lot of important questions ...

      But - I just want everyone to know, that the training system is being
      updated. It is pretty good at the moment, with over 15 hours of video
      training, along with content and audio teleseminars etc. We also have
      Frank working basically non-stop on live training webinars, and our
      support crew is literally hurting themselves to answer questions. lol

      Just wanted to point all this out - and make a public promise to really
      over-deliver on the training. I have 12 new videos in the pipe-line,
      and Chris is working on another two amazing videos that will be
      released in the next day or so ...

      And for all those people who said "But all this should have been ready
      before we arrived" - well, that's probably true, and we were going to
      roll out training videos faster than anyone could digest them ... but
      we got bogged down in customer support.

      I look forward to blowing everyone away with dozens more videos,
      that will really push the training angle. This is the best tool full stop.
      Now we just need to push the training back-end to the same level.

      We have some amazing people on board, and you can expect quality
      training for all skill levels. GCD makes things so easy now. It allows
      every customer to see what is working, and what is not ...

      This sheer fact, makes our jobs as trainers so much easier. We don't
      have to rely on opinion. We can just point straight to the source and
      say "Hey, look at this guy. He is making money. It works. Here's why"

      I want to thank everyone for their contributions to this thread. I know
      it got a little heated earlier before, and I wasn't about to stand for
      out-and-out lies, and I did try and acknowledge the problems we
      faced. Huge announcement soon. I hope we can restore everyone's
      confidence in the entire GCD concept.

      It's not just a tool. It's a private community of like minded people,
      who *will* make serious money using this unique piece of software.
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  • Profile picture of the author mido
    NewQuestions

    Today I posted a ticket as GCD forum is still down.

    To be efficient we need PDF Manual which explains every column and every field.
    Various lengthy "training" videos are very much waste of Time.
    Good training videos are from 1min 30sec to 4min 30sec - CONCISE and PRECISE.
    In GCD2, especially Frank's stuff - you may spend 1.5 Hours to grab 45 seconds of useful information.
    So let's have PDF GCD Guide with link to 2-3 min SHORT videos, if required.
    And have it Indexed.

    I can give you examples of short, concise training videos, like Jeff Johnson's support or Keith Baxter.

    Tonight Conference room was full again (350 people).
    Frank hasn't even changed the password.

    Frank was supposed to teach Advanced method tonight (I got in the last few minutes only when some people have left) and he was still talking about $1 a day Adwords budget to test new campaigns! Stuff for noobs.

    Advanced users test campaigns with $50 - $3,000 daily budget and use different tactics.
    Can you get somebody to teach really Advanced stuff there? Maybe Amit Mehta?

    Thanks,
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      Originally Posted by mido View Post

      NewQuestions

      Today I posted a ticket as GCD forum is still down.

      To be efficient we need PDF Manual which explains every column and every field.
      Various lengthy "training" videos are very much waste of Time.
      Good training videos are from 1min 30sec to 4min 30sec - CONCISE and PRECISE.
      In GCD2, especially Frank's stuff - you may spend 1.5 Hours to grab 45 seconds of useful information.
      So let's have PDF GCD Guide with link to 2-3 min SHORT videos, if required.
      Chris has just sent an email, that addresses basically every one of
      your points. Please understand that our regular training staff were
      pulled from their normal duties to answer customer emails.

      We have received over 500 emails from customers that told us
      the forums are still down. We understand this fact, and we know
      there was a lack of communication over the last 5 days. Please
      don't hold it against us. (The forums will be back up very soon)

      I'm sure you will appreciate the changes that are being made
      right now. Check the email from Chris for additional details.

      We are trying to strike a balance between videos for experts like
      yourself, and those who have never even used PPC. The training
      system has over 600 positive comments in less than 4 days.

      I'm hoping this validates our current training resources, although
      I must emphasize again - that most of our training talent was
      pulled from regular duties and have been doing customer
      support work.

      GCD is not going away. We experienced a large influx of customers.
      Certainly more than we expected, and it has empowered us to hire
      more talent, develop new resources and create a unique environment
      that will hard to beat ...

      The software is working perfectly now. No issues what so ever.

      Most of our customers will need to clear their GC cookie, and we
      have just sent out an email to explain how to do this. That was the
      primary issue behind almost all of our login and authentication issues.

      Looking forward to posting testimonials as we get past this backlog!

      I got another private email from a customer who has sold the actual
      PPC data returned from GCD - for $17,000. Pretty impressive huh?

      There is a lateral thinking training video that explains how to do this
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      • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
        There is a lateral thinking training video that explains how to do this [/quote]

        I must say that this is a great video and was the way i saw mysef moving forwaed with the software, however, it just wouldn't return any results for UK !!!! If your in US this could work extreamely well
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          Hey, Vstar here,

          To all of you who have sent me a PM, I'm sorry that I haven't replied, but it's only because I Do Not have enough posts on the warrior forum to be able to send PM's

          If you want a reply , you will have to include an email address

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      • Profile picture of the author simplicityo
        Originally Posted by NewQuestions View Post

        Chris has just sent an email, that addresses basically every one of your points. Please understand that our regular training staff were
        pulled from their normal duties to answer customer emails...
        Looking at the date of the your post, it's been two days now I still have not received Chris email. I have check my spambox too and it's not in there.
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        • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
          Tvidhe lateral thinking only works in US, they forget to tell you that!!!!
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          • Profile picture of the author sharp11
            Hi all.

            Since the launch, we have experienced similar issues as some folks in this thread, such as: the URL search is not functioning (we have done many wildcard searches for affiliate and cpa networks with 0 results returned); the keyword search doesn't seem as robust as when Chris was showing it in his videos (pre-launch); session is expiring quickly-many times from one search to the next; whenever we use the back button, it ends the session; the forum has been offline for much too long, etc...

            Chris has asked members to submit all comments below the online GCD training videos, which i did a few days ago. As of this writing, my comments have not been posted, while others (dated after mine) have been posted. This led me to check out other comments below other training videos and that is when i noticed that GCD appears to be posting only positive comments. It seemed odd to me that no one was posting about any possible issues or concerns. Well, when i found this thread, i was shocked to find just how many issues members are in fact experiencing. Could this be partly why the GCD forum is down? In this age of transparency, shouldn't Chris and company be honest with us about what is happening?

            At this point, we are still cautiously optimistic about using the Detective tool but also growing more uncertain as the time passes without solutions to many of these issues.

            One other thought; the training is surprisingly weak, given that the initial training videos (pre-launch) from Chris and Jonathan were quite good. This should have been a major priority and included for all members immediately; ie: some short videos and PDF's about the separate functions (search, URL, ads, landing pages), more in-depth and advanced training from Chris and Jonathan etc. The Mastermind Pro video training is not acceptable, especially when one considers the cost involved. Just look at PPC Classroom to see how well organized it should really be, rather than this mess. GCD, hurry up and remedy this asap please!

            In summary, we are aware of the potential of this tool but also very surprised about the problems and lack of communication. I hope that this works out... we'll see.
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            • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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              Originally Posted by sharp11 View Post

              Hi all.

              Since the launch, we have experienced similar issues as some folks in this thread, such as: the URL search is not functioning (we have done many wildcard searches for affiliate and cpa networks with 0 results returned); the keyword search doesn't seem as robust as when Chris was showing it in his videos (pre-launch); session is expiring quickly-many times from one search to the next; whenever we use the back button, it ends the session; the forum has been offline for much too long, etc...

              Chris has asked members to submit all comments below the online GCD training videos, which i did a few days ago. As of this writing, my comments have not been posted, while others (dated after mine) have been posted. This led me to check out other comments below other training videos and that is when i noticed that GCD appears to be posting only positive comments. It seemed odd to me that no one was posting about any possible issues or concerns. Well, when i found this thread, i was shocked to find just how many issues members are in fact experiencing. Could this be partly why the GCD forum is down? In this age of transparency, shouldn't Chris and company be honest with us about what is happening?

              At this point, we are still cautiously optimistic about using the Detective tool but also growing more uncertain as the time passes without solutions to many of these issues.

              One other thought; the training is surprisingly weak, given that the initial training videos (pre-launch) from Chris and Jonathan were quite good. This should have been a major priority and included for all members immediately; ie: some short videos and PDF's about the separate functions (search, URL, ads, landing pages), more in-depth and advanced training from Chris and Jonathan etc. The Mastermind Pro video training is not acceptable, especially when one considers the cost involved. Just look at PPC Classroom to see how well organized it should really be, rather than this mess. GCD, hurry up and remedy this asap please!

              In summary, we are aware of the potential of this tool but also very surprised about the problems and lack of communication. I hope that this works out... we'll see.
              Yes I noticed they weren't posting any negative comments. In fact the humourless *******s didn't post a long (mostly positive) comment of mine where I labelled the tool "the Dick" (slang for Detective) instead of "Detective". Got sick of typing GoogleCashDetective.
              I find the tool mostly works OK. There are a few glitches but you get that with any tool don't you? But some strange results do show up. Some Clickbank products and URLs are simply not showing even though I know they are being advertised on Adwords. Bit strange. And I've found some bizarre results in the keyword searches. Such as "Brisbane (Australia) auctions" and "Scottish auctions" results for a search on a keyword list for the most popular "u.s. government auctions site" - supposedly these keywords having profitabilty indexes of 12,000 or something. And that has me scratching my head. Is the keyword in the list and people are clicking on it in curiosity? Why would you click on an ad for "US Government auctions" if you're searching for "Brisbane auctions" or "Scottish auctions". And why would the ad be (supposedly) targeting Australia or the U.K.? Bizarre.
              I've heard back from GCD Support with a short and rather rude reply. To wit: "What do you mean the blog is missing. It is up with the comments on the videos up. Also what hyperlink is not working for the Contact Us?
              I'm responding to your response of a support ticket, so we are answering questions.Thanks."
              This guy obviously needs some people skills and Customer Service training. Maybe he's the cleaner who was just thrown in to help out? Poor sap thinks a "blog" is just a static web page with no comments and no links. And he makes it sound like he's doing me a huge favour by even replying.
              I agree with your comments on the Mastermind Pro stuff. I find them rather childish and annoying. Jonathon Paul does a much better job. The other - Frank Terranova or whatever and the girl whose name I can't remember are condescending and waffling. Much better to supply PDFs with it.
              You would have thought they'd worked all this out before launching. especially since this is isn't the first time they've done this. So I've now got the form I need to fill out to get a refund before the end of the 30 days (does that include the weeks free billing he offered I wonder?). My finger is paused. I would like to think they'll get it together but I dunno. Not a good start.
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              • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
                Montroicity, Your experience with the search results is similar to mine, i dunno whether it had something to do with me being in the UK however it made me doubt the data, when i questioned support about this the had no clue!!! I had such high hopes but just could not trust the data. I typed in around ten urls of campaigns i knew to be doing well on adwords and no data returned!!
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                • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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                  Originally Posted by checkmuldoon View Post

                  Montroicity, Your experience with the search results is similar to mine, i dunno whether it had something to do with me being in the UK however it made me doubt the data, when i questioned support about this the had no clue!!! I had such high hopes but just could not trust the data. I typed in around ten urls of campaigns i knew to be doing well on adwords and no data returned!!
                  Yep. I'm entering data on long-term existing Adwords campaigns (friends & clients of mine) and nothing is showing up. They're Australian campaigns so maybe they are not tracking them. But they should be - I notice quite a few Aussies commenting.
                  As for the lack of Support/Comments/dead links etc - could it be CC has gone surfing and left the patients in charge of the madhouse? Surely not. Servers keep timing out on Firefox too. But maybe that's a Firefox issue. Doesn't seem to happen on Safari. I'm on a brand new 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac with H.S. Broadband too. In Paris.
                  Check out the data on Jamorama.com (as an URL search and a keyword search under "learn guitar") it shows only 7 campaigns. That doesn't seem right at all. I would have expected quite a bit more. Especially as JP uses that product as an example in his vids. I scratch my head. Think I'll give them a few more days to see if there's a radical improvement before pulling the pin. Bit worried about the refund now.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
                    Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

                    Yep. I'm entering data on long-term existing Adwords campaigns (friends & clients of mine) and nothing is showing up. They're Australian campaigns so maybe they are not tracking them. But they should be - I notice quite a few Aussies commenting.
                    As for the lack of Support/Comments/dead links etc - could it be CC has gone surfing and left the patients in charge of the madhouse? Surely not. Servers keep timing out on Firefox too. But maybe that's a Firefox issue. Doesn't seem to happen on Safari. I'm on a brand new 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac with H.S. Broadband too. In Paris.
                    Check out the data on Jamorama.com (as an URL search and a keyword search under "learn guitar") it shows only 7 campaigns. That doesn't seem right at all. I would have expected quite a bit more. Especially as JP uses that product as an example in his vids. I scratch my head. Think I'll give them a few more days to see if there's a radical improvement before pulling the pin. Bit worried about the refund now.
                    metronicity,

                    Further back in this thread they mentioned that GCD only tracks US DAta and that later on they will look at UK and OZ. That's why you can't find the OZ campaigns.
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                    • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
                      Originally Posted by Purplemagic View Post

                      metronicity,

                      Further back in this thread they mentioned that GCD only tracks US DAta and that later on they will look at UK and OZ. That's why you can't find the OZ campaigns.
                      I know that Now but there was no mention of it during the launch or the crappy training, also when i asked support why the url's/ campaigns were not showing, they had no clue dispite them knowing i'm in the UK!!!!!
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                  • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
                    I actually pulled the pin before it was launched, i got in on the Beta testing stage, i paid $197 then it would have been $97 per month to be honest if i would have paid anymore i would have been boiling my head!!! Anyway as for the training that Frank fellow and the women they have the most annoying voices ever, talk about waffle i reckon they just like the sound of their own voices, to be fair i though Johnathan's training vids were pretty good, i reckon they should custard pie the other two tho... Its a pity the software would have been cool for cats if it did what it said on the tin, i must admit i'm glad i got out when i did, however i'm sure some people will drop lucky and make some cash!!!!!!!
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                  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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                    Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

                    Yep. I'm entering data on long-term existing Adwords campaigns (friends & clients of mine) and nothing is showing up. They're Australian campaigns so maybe they are not tracking them. But they should be - I notice quite a few Aussies commenting.
                    As for the lack of Support/Comments/dead links etc - could it be CC has gone surfing and left the patients in charge of the madhouse? Surely not. Servers keep timing out on Firefox too. But maybe that's a Firefox issue. Doesn't seem to happen on Safari. I'm on a brand new 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac with H.S. Broadband too. In Paris.
                    Check out the data on Jamorama.com (as an URL search and a keyword search under "learn guitar") it shows only 7 campaigns. That doesn't seem right at all. I would have expected quite a bit more. Especially as JP uses that product as an example in his vids. I scratch my head. Think I'll give them a few more days to see if there's a radical improvement before pulling the pin. Bit worried about the refund now.
                    I found the Jamorama affiliates by doing a wildcard search - all 875 of them.
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                    • Profile picture of the author jcaviani
                      Metronicity,

                      I am done wasting my time with you or anyone else who can't see beyond their own anxiety. You are free to request a refund and leave at any time and yet you seem to require help getting out the door too?
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                      • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
                        Originally Posted by jcaviani View Post

                        Metronicity,

                        I am done wasting my time with you or anyone else who can't see beyond their own anxiety. You are free to request a refund and leave at any time and yet you seem to require help getting out the door too.
                        jcaviani,
                        Whoa! Hold on there pal....this is not a debate about "Mine is bigger than your's" To me its about getting what we paid for...simple. And that is not happening in Spades!
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                        • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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                          Originally Posted by Purplemagic View Post

                          jcaviani,
                          Whoa! Hold on there pal....this is not a debate about "Mine is bigger than your's" To me its about getting what we paid for...simple. And that is not happening in Spades!
                          Exackery Mister Craw...Exackery. If Whatsisface re-read my posts he'd see that I quite like Jonathon Paul's vids (even though he sounds half-cut ) and I have fun using the tool - especially the wildcard function but we just want what we paid for....when do we want it...NOW!
                          Guess what - they still haven't sorted it. The Forum's still MIA.
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                      • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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                        Originally Posted by jcaviani View Post

                        Metronicity,

                        I am done wasting my time with you or anyone else who can't see beyond their own anxiety. You are free to request a refund and leave at any time and yet you seem to require help getting out the door too?
                        Just found the door, thanks. It was off its hinges but I managed to get out alive.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnDow
        I agree, I got plenty of time to watch it all. Frank is a really really nice person. However he (they incl Ann) claim to do this for years. So close the damn chatbox, don't take questions, TEACH US, explain functionality, do an example... that's it. Can't be that hard... Again Frank is a nice guy, but also tell us about the advanced stuff... but think he's not to.
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        • Profile picture of the author simplicityo
          Originally Posted by JohnDow View Post

          I agree, I got plenty of time to watch it all. Frank is a really really nice person. However he (they incl Ann) claim to do this for years. So close the damn chatbox, don't take questions, TEACH US, explain functionality, do an example... that's it. Can't be that hard... Again Frank is a nice guy, but also tell us about the advanced stuff... but think he's not to.
          Well at least you get to watch them all. I have problem with some of Frank's recorded training.

          Doesn't have any success login into live training too. Most of the times it says wrong password and once I got in, I get kicked out of the training almost immediately. Maybe I should use groundnut instead of peanut.
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  • Profile picture of the author mido
    Thank you NewQuestions, just got Chris email. Switching to Go to Meeting should fix the space limit issue.

    Since there so many noobs, let Frank teach them those $1 or $5 budget campaigns.

    But we need pro coaches with different Mindset, to show us the riches of GCD, and teach tactics where you spend and make thousands of $ a day.
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  • Profile picture of the author scottty64
    First posting to this board thought I would give my 2 cents. Lost money a few years ago trying ppc so gave it up cause I never made a penny from it. I accidently clicked on a page about gcd and was immediatly interested and subsequently became a member like a lot of others.

    Before the launch I did what probably hundreds of other people did after watching the videos of chris showing how easy it was to clone a campaign and decided like most to clone one of the examples he was using in the video.....big mistake of course and lost about a 100 bucks doing that. Again I was disappointed with ppc and figured this isnt gonna work.

    To make a long story short...When I finally was able to go through a lot of the videos, participated in some of the conferences put on by frank and then finally being able to test out the gcd for the last few days and see what it does etc I was able to find a campaign to test out.

    Keep in mind I had tried ppc a few years ago and never made a cent for almost a year trying.
    Because I have some webdesign skills I first built a website for my campaign that I was going to clone and made sure it was professional looking bla bla bla...I got cloned the campaign I reseached on via the gcd and launched it.

    Low and behold that first nite the campaign ran I had 34 clicks of 1058 impressions with 4 sales, (although my google account tracking tells me I have 5 conversions but clickbank only shows 4 sales so dont know why the difference there) it cost me $53 and change and my sales were $121 and change. Now this may not seem a big deal to most but this is from someone who didnt have a clue how to make money using ppc obviously caused I lost in the past. Today not as good as yesterday with only 1 sale. My avg cpc is slowly lowering since last nite, I think it had gone down over 50 cents already which is great.
    Basically I just wanted to say that this does seem to work if you go about it the right way and not just put up or clone any old campaign out there thinking its going to work. I also think that having a professionally done landing page is better but thats me.
    This is only my 2nd day with this campaign so we'll see where it goes but so far I am having success with it.
    I also agree that the owner or owners of this software could have shown more support when things were not going smoothly the first few days of launch, and I am still a little teed off that the forum is still down now for 3 days and still not back up.
    So far I like the program and for me I am actually making some money at it...and hopefully a lot more to come.

    Great forum here btw...tons of info great job.

    Terry

    ps....I am not a plant from gcd to go out and try to calm the waters so to speak lol as I had read in other posts. Just a regular guy living in Calgary Alberta Canada trying to succeed in this cut throat business.

    Take care
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    • I have to admit I'm pretty surprised that nothing is happening. The forum is *not* back, and some things are not yet working properly, and no new training materials have been put up on the site.

      In the meantime we can share information on my own forum, here:

      Index :: Google Cash Detective Independent Forum

      Oh well, I seriously hope things will get better. The software itself mostly works and is very useful, but a lot of stuff *around* it is not working satisfactorily.

      I'll consider it learning money if I have to decide to cancel out, after my 30 days run out if there's not significant progress.

      Incidentally, if you go on the gcdetective front page, you can sign up for the waiting list, presumably they'll open up again once they know how many slots are vacated by cancellations.
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      • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
        Originally Posted by understandyourniche View Post

        I have to admit I'm pretty surprised that nothing is happening. The forum is *not* back, and some things are not yet working properly, and no new training materials have been put up on the site.

        In the meantime we can share information on my own forum, here:

        Index :: Google Cash Detective Independent Forum

        Oh well, I seriously hope things will get better. The software itself mostly works and is very useful, but a lot of stuff *around* it is not working satisfactorily.

        I'll consider it learning money if I have to decide to cancel out, after my 30 days run out if there's not significant progress.

        Incidentally, if you go on the gcdetective front page, you can sign up for the waiting list, presumably they'll open up again once they know how many slots are vacated by cancellations.
        We haven't had any news for a couple of days...it is though Elvis has left the building!

        But wait..
        I just received this from CC........Amazing how he can solicit new business and still not satisfy paying customers.

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        As a thank you to my recent subscribers, I'm offering
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        • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
          LOL he's using the survey technique.. guess he was on Howie's call last night.

          Funniest part is if you do go to buy Google Cash... you see this:



          Woops!
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    The most confusing part is why didn't they expect a large amount of people to join? Why weren't they prepared? Why wasn't the support staff already in place? Why weren't the forums already prepared with moderators?

    If I paid $350,000 to develop a program then surely I would pay a few bucks a month to a reasonable-sized support staff. Surely I would've prepared training for both the beginner and advanced levels before launching.

    And what good is it to make the bonuses like the home study course and Google Cash Revolution available only AFTER the 30 day trial expires?

    Why did Chris say it will be limited based on people when it was in fact limited based on time?

    And why doesn't the customer service phone number work?

    It seems the only reliable thing going on so far is Frank's daily training, which is good but it isn't organized in a manner for one to really track their progress and understand what to do next, but I don't blame Frank for that.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      The quick answer is that they are inept. But I'm getting a very uneasy feeling about these cats. I'm still waiting for the "High Priority" Support Ticket to be answered.
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  • Profile picture of the author darksky
    I'm one of his customers. A happy one. I'm not on his staff - and I don't know Chris personally... I don't even surf. ;-) I paid for my package, same as you.

    My experience though has been a very positive one.

    Like I said though: I can't comment on their support, since I just haven't needed to use it.
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  • Profile picture of the author scottty64
    Well I think support may be getting quicker...I sent in one today regarding how much longer is the forum going to be down, a couple hours later I got a response....although my question wasnt really answered as their reply was we are working on it.
    Just dont understand why is it taking 4 days or so now to put the forum back I am sure it doesnt take a genius to work out a couple bugs in a forum ...I dont know why it was pulled in the first place as it was working fine and I dont think anyone had issues logging into the forum.
    I still like the program and all but other things are a little fishy and without the forum as a way to communicate with everyone else I am sure most of the noobies are probably running scared the longer their is no way of communication.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Shipp
    This is a joke!!!
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  • I also bought GCD2. I'm overall happy with the tool, unhappy with the support, and super unhappy with the absence of a forum.

    Why should we wait for their forum anyways... gcdforums.com is available. Anyone up for it? Or should I just buy the domain and set up the forum which will take me all of 1 hour max?

    The tool works very well, IMHO, when you compare it to other tools I've used in the past (keywordspy and keycompete) it rocks and blows their ass. If you expect GCD2 to cook dinner for you, have sex with you, and iron your shirts, sorry, you're gonna be disappointed. There's a TON of things that should be improved, and I'm sure some of them WILL be improved. It is good at what it is billed at doing, but it isn't gonna earn you a dime -- that's still YOUR job, buddy.
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  • Profile picture of the author WhosMaverick
    Anybosy know if they are going to organize the training videos *correctly*?

    I find it extremely unproductive seeing a video with a date as a title...

    The tool itself is a BEAST if you know the ins and outs of its function... but for that we need correct education on how to really squeeze the juice out of it.

    When is the forum back up? Anybody?
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by WhosMaverick View Post

      Anybosy know if they are going to organize the training videos *correctly*?

      I find it extremely unproductive seeing a video with a date as a title...

      The tool itself is a BEAST if you know the ins and outs of its function... but for that we need correct education on how to really squeeze the juice out of it.

      When is the forum back up? Anybody?
      Just got a reply from Support - pretty quick too - about an hour. "The forum should be up by today and tomorrow morning at the very latest."

      What's the bet it crashes again (Pessimistic b. aren't I?)
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  • Profile picture of the author thomashoi
    I think many of us are drawn to google cash detective probably because of it's quick way to make fast money. You can literally find the exact keywords that is profitable, so you can simply setup a campaign and plug in the same keywords.... all done in mins.

    Put it on autopilot and make a few thousands dollars very month like clock work. Is it really that simple? I think for sure, all of us are making google very rich.

    The fact is that cpc for that particular keyword will shoot up and soon not profitable anymore. Are we seeing something here?

    many such ppc products will be launched regularly because most of us want to make a quick buck but don't want to spend time to do the necessary market research.

    Internet marketing is like a business and you need to invest time to make it work. If you have not been making money for many years, I think it's time for you to go back to the basics and start to do real market research:

    1. Find a hungry market/niche
    2. Find out what they REALLY want
    3. Give it to them

    The keywords you derive after research can bring you 1000% roi

    Give it a thought.

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    • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
      I agree but the point of GGC is your supposed to be able to find profitable keywords and campaigns, i understand its simply a tool and hard work is involved however, it just didn't work like was advertised as all the data is from google.com (US) they should be more clear on that.......
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    If the launched version has incomplete features, very little training, no support, unfinished bonuses, etc.... then what was the beta version like??
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  • Profile picture of the author papeter
    I haven't bought GCD and I am reading a lot of mixed reviews here with more negatives than positives. Glad I didn't jump in. So what's the alternative? PPC Bully? I looked at that and whilst it doesn't have the instant reporting that GCD has it has just lowered it's monthly price to $49 with no mad upfront fee. PPC Kahuna seems favourite as nobody has a bad word to say about that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
    Reading all the comments here I didn't even bother with customer support, the forum and all that, so you might say my expectations were low... except for the software itself.

    Well, to date, I have found ZERO campaigns to copy! Mind you, I did find some profitable ones but they were all done by big companies for their own purposes, not by affiliates whose profit margins will obviously be more lower, and thus way harder to make a profit.

    That's what bugs me the most. It seems almost no one is making a profit with adwords anymore. GCD allows me to see that, but that was not the point now was it.

    The training videos are 40+ minutes longs at time, unstructured, and drive me nuts. Give me some short ones to master this tool NOW, not 40 days later.


    I'm still giving it a run but yeah, at $2600 a year, this is not what I expected to say the least. Of course, IF I do find good campaign AND actually make money I'll be happy. But up to now, I've wasted hours with nothing to show for it.
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    • Profile picture of the author thomashoi
      Originally Posted by Jay Rhome View Post

      .......... . It seems almost no one is making a profit with adwords anymore. GCD allows me to see that, but that was not the point now was it......
      I begged to differ. There are still tons of opportunities to make money from adwords, only if you have done enough research to find the keywords that is used by people in the late buying cycle.

      why not start with article marketing to capture the organic keywords and use it in your ppc campaign?
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  • Profile picture of the author jcaviani
    The truth of the matter is some of you folks would complain that you might get hit in the head by falling one thousands dollars bills if you left the porch to get one.

    You have the most intelligence I've seen in one place in my 5 years online and all you can do is find ways to NOT make it work for you? Apparently, you have no idea what value this intelligence has. Btw, if all you want to do is income chase with moronic direct linking affiliate campaigns you are even stupider than you sound.

    I can't do a direct linking campaign - whine, sniffle snort. Hey McFly, then why don't you get an idea what you have to do to beat the guy who is direct linking? Oh, but you might have to get off your ass and think a bit - say it isn't so. Why don't you compile some intelligence reports. Oh, but you might have to get off your ass and think a bit again. Pcik and indsutry and help buisness get more leads and profits. Oh, but you might have to get off your ass and think... There are so many things you could be doing, but you chose to whine instead.

    You are not in grade school any more where you get admonished for not learning the assigned lessons and everyone has to feel good about themselves. If your grasp of PPC is weak, then find some resources and learn it. If your tech skills are weak, ditto. Don't expect any one else to give two shits about you making money because we don't.

    I get the feeling some of you expect those who have done their homework to sit around the camp fire with you roasting marsh mellows singing Kumbaya and sharing all they know for free. This is business and I have no problem making you fresh road kill. GCD is a tool that fits into many different contexts. Pick a few and learn them.

    I have had it with you lazy whiners. Complain away and please get the hell out of GCD. After the recession is over, there will be Dilbert Cubes all over the country with your names on them. Please take your rightful places. We need people like you.

    Sure, there have been glitches. Can any of you whiners tell me anything about the system you berate? Servers, APIs, databases, load balancing, etc. Keeping track of 2 million keywords is no small feat. Add in hundreds of users and queries and it gets even more complex.

    Where are the positive responses? Get a clue will you? We are too busy making money to come here and be dragged down by a bunch of whiners here on their lunch hour dreaming about succeeding.

    No one is going to make your money making environment perfect for you so stop looking and get busy.

    Vito
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by jcaviani View Post

      The truth of the matter is some of you folks would complain that you might get hit in the head by falling one thousands dollars bills if you left the porch to get one.

      You have the most intelligence I've seen in one place in my 5 years online and all you can do is find ways to NOT make it work for you? Apparently, you have no idea what value this intelligence has. Btw, if all you want to do is income chase with moronic direct linking affiliate campaigns you are even stupider than you sound.

      I can't do a direct linking campaign - whine, sniffle snort. Hey McFly, then why don't you get an idea what you have to do to beat the guy who is direct linking? Oh, but you might have to get off your ass and think a bit - say it isn't so. Why don't you compile some intelligence reports. Oh, but you might have to get off your ass and think a bit again. Pcik and indsutry and help buisness get more leads and profits. Oh, but you might have to get off your ass and think... There are so many things you could be doing, but you chose to whine instead.

      You are not in grade school any more where you get admonished for not learning the assigned lessons and everyone has to feel good about themselves. If your grasp of PPC is weak, then find some resources and learn it. If your tech skills are weak, ditto. Don't expect any one else to give two shits about you making money because we don't.

      I get the feeling some of you expect those who have done their homework to sit around the camp fire with you roasting marsh mellows singing Kumbaya and sharing all they know for free. This is business and I have no problem making you fresh road kill. GCD is a tool that fits into many different contexts. Pick a few and learn them.

      I have had it with you lazy whiners. Complain away and please get the hell out of GCD. After the recession is over, there will be Dilbert Cubes all over the country with your names on them. Please take your rightful places. We need people like you.

      Sure, there have been glitches. Can any of you whiners tell me anything about the system you berate? Servers, APIs, databases, load balancing, etc. Keeping track of 2 million keywords is no small feat. Add in hundreds of users and queries and it gets even more complex.

      Where are the positive responses? Get a clue will you? We are too busy making money to come here and be dragged down by a bunch of whiners here on their lunch hour dreaming about succeeding.

      No one is going to make your money making environment perfect for you so stop looking and get busy.

      Vito
      Yes BUT Mister Smartmouth...the whole idea of GCD was to teach newbies AND people who knew something about affiliate marketing to GET AN EDGE - to get an edge by Direct Linking which they had us believe you could do easily by CLONING successful campaigns.Well that's obviously Not the case is it? There are other factors in play - how much money you're going to throw at Google, your history with Google Adwords, your CTR history etc.

      If we'd paid $97 or something we might be philosophical. But we haven't. We've paid a Grand upfront and $97 a month Plus. Or 67% of us will have paid $2600 AT LEAST over the coming year. That aint chickenfeed and for that sort of scratch I expect something to run a lot smoother than this.

      I like using the tool. But its not infallible. But I have a very good idea how I can make money using it. I just want the rest of the shit that was promised. And BTW sport you definitely CAN make money Direct Linking - but you need to lower your spend dramatically and target your keywords. JP talks about a program that helps with that. Maybe you didn't get that far but that program and that method is KILLER.

      Go back and listen to what CC says in one of his vids. He wants it to be a "tight-knit community" where we all help each other. While we're learning. That's what this is - a LEARNING PROGRAM. And we all make some money. I share that ethic. Seems you're too intent upon being a Total Ahole to join that little club.

      Have a nice day you hear.

      p.s. if you want to get into the techie side of things, how come they didn't host the servers with Peer1 or someone? They wouldn't have had this B/S would they.
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      • Profile picture of the author jcaviani
        Metronicity,

        I hope the time you have wasted to write your novellas of discontent have been worthwhile.

        GCD is just a tool. It can be used productively in many ways. Generally the people who succeed in business have put themselves in that position. They learn everything they can in the hopes that their preparation will meet opportunity. They don't wait for everything to be perfect. There are no guarantees and they know they have to make hay while the sun shines.

        This is the part of the equation government seems to pay no deference to when deciding to arbitrarily redistribute wealth. Many people who make great money also take great risks. Where is the government when they don't succeed? I'm tired of the half truths that fuel this class warfare. People want jobs and yet the people who can actually create them are chastised and evil. Is it really prudent to throw money we don't have at a blackhole of need?

        Could the GCD launch have been smoother? Perhaps...but stop acting like it's similar to a drum and bugle core performance that has been rehearsed for a year before going live. This is real time baby and nothing tests a system like a few hundred people hammering it. Adjustments have to be made.

        Everything will be okay. Good luck to you.
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        • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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          Originally Posted by jcaviani View Post

          Metronicity,

          I hope the time you have wasted to write your novellas of discontent have been worthwhile.

          GCD is just a tool. It can be used productively in many ways. Generally the people who succeed in business have put themselves in that position. They learn everything they can in the hopes that their preparation will meet opportunity. They don't wait for everything to be perfect. There are no guarantees and they know they have to make hay while the sun shines.

          This is the part of the equation government seems to pay no deference to when deciding to arbitrarily redistribute wealth. Many people who make great money also take great risks. Where is the government when they don't succeed? I'm tired of the half truths that fuel this class warfare. People want jobs and yet the people who can actually create them are chastised and evil. Is it really prudent to throw money we don't have at a blackhole of need?

          Could the GCD launch have been smoother? Perhaps...but stop acting like it's similar to a drum and bugle core performance that has been rehearsed for a year before going live. This is real time baby and nothing tests a system like a few hundred people hammering it. Adjustments have to be made.

          Everything will be okay. Good luck to you.
          Well there you go - "They learn everything they can in the hopes that their preparation will meet opportunity." Exackery. "They learn everything they can". Sometimes the fastest and easiest way to learn is to pay someone to teach you. That's what we were hoping for here. Go back and read the comments. Are they happy with the training and the teaching? "They don't wait for everything to be perfect" - no but they expect to get what they paid for. Can't you see that? What are you there for? Just for the tool? Yeah right. Or did you cough up your dough hoping to pick up some good techniques/tips/resources/contacts - stuff you didn't know? Huh?
          Don't follow the rest of your ramble about "half truths that feed this class warfare". Way off topic there. "Is it really prudent to throw money we don't have at a blackhole of need?" - you on crack or what? We're talking about a classic case of what lawyers call "misrepresentation" - An assertion or manifestation by words or conduct that is not in accord with the facts.


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      • Profile picture of the author JohnDow
        Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

        And BTW sport you definitely CAN make money Direct Linking - but you need to lower your spend dramatically and target your keywords. JP talks about a program that helps with that. Maybe you didn't get that far but that program and that method is KILLER.
        What program? Hint?
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        • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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          Originally Posted by JohnDow View Post

          What program? Hint?
          You'll find it on my site. It involves Redirecting & Masking your affiliate link to make your Display URL & Destination URL the same. Then you can direct link without having to do battle with all the other schmucks paying too much per click. Very easily done. But keep it to yourself.
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          • Profile picture of the author vstar650
            Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

            You'll find it on my site. It involves Redirecting & Masking your affiliate link to make your Display URL & Destination URL the same. Then you can direct link without having to do battle with all the other schmucks paying too much per click. Very easily done. But keep it to yourself.
            Here's the problem with using that approach... Google's double serving rule is not just about the URL, it's also about similar pages

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            As per Google's guidelines:

            We'll only display one ad per search query for advertisers sharing the same top-level domains in the display URL. This means that if you're an affiliate advertiser, your ad may not show for a query because another affiliate or the website that runs the affiliate program also has ads using the same (or a similar) domain in the display URL. Also, your site should not mirror (be similar or nearly identical in appearance to) your parent company's or another advertiser's site.

            __________________________________________________ _______________

            So, Masking, cloaking or redirecting DOES NOT get around the "similar page" issue and it is only a matter of time before Google Slaps the Shit out of you anyway... might not be today or tomorrow, but it will happen eventually!

            My 2 cents
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              Originally Posted by vstar650 View Post

              Here's the problem with using that approach... Google's double serving rule is not just about the URL, it's also about similar pages

              __________________________________________________ ______________
              As per Google's guidelines:

              We'll only display one ad per search query for advertisers sharing the same top-level domains in the display URL. This means that if you're an affiliate advertiser, your ad may not show for a query because another affiliate or the website that runs the affiliate program also has ads using the same (or a similar) domain in the display URL. Also, your site should not mirror (be similar or nearly identical in appearance to) your parent company's or another advertiser's site.

              __________________________________________________ _______________

              So, Masking, cloaking or redirecting DOES NOT get around the "similar page" issue and it is only a matter of time before Google Slaps the Shit out of you anyway... might not be today or tomorrow, but it will happen eventually!

              My 2 cents
              It's a very good way of testing a campaign before building a Landing Page.
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            • Profile picture of the author vstar650
              Originally Posted by vstar650 View Post

              Here's the problem with using that approach... Google's double serving rule is not just about the URL, it's also about similar pages

              __________________________________________________ ______________
              As per Google's guidelines:

              We'll only display one ad per search query for advertisers sharing the same top-level domains in the display URL. This means that if you're an affiliate advertiser, your ad may not show for a query because another affiliate or the website that runs the affiliate program also has ads using the same (or a similar) domain in the display URL. Also, your site should not mirror (be similar or nearly identical in appearance to) your parent company's or another advertiser's site.

              __________________________________________________ _______________

              So, Masking, cloaking or redirecting DOES NOT get around the "similar page" issue and it is only a matter of time before Google Slaps the Shit out of you anyway... might not be today or tomorrow, but it will happen eventually!

              My 2 cents
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  • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
    Watch who you call lazy you prick, i spent ten year down a coal mine!!!! and i don't have thousands to waste. Fine it don't work with direct linking so why they say it does??
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    • Profile picture of the author jcaviani
      I'm not saying it does or doesn't work with direct linking, but you would be very foolish to use it only in that way. There are so many other options. And what does your coal mine prowess have to do with Google Cash Detective and affiliate marketing?

      Face the music here folks. Affiliate marketing as it is practiced by many is nothing more than income chasing. You should be collecting leads and building a business instead. If not, you are building someone else's business. Sure you can make a good chunk of change being an income chaser and many people like it, but just know your longevity is limited.

      Btw, dish out all the names you can think of. I really don't care. I took some time here to try and help. I hope you can view it that way in the long run. I know most people aren't bad people, some just need a kick in the ass now and then.

      You should be jumping up and down saying wow, there are still so many direct linkers. How much do I have to do to compete with them? In many cases, not much!

      Threads like these and many others are why I generally dislike free forums. You really have no idea who is commenting and with what intent. It doesn't take a genius to know many people will say and do just about anything to make money and keep their money - look at the US economy.

      Be careful and test things for yourself. There is much disinformation floating around about what and what doesn't work. Direct linking was supposed to be dead a long time ago right? Do you think there were people who profited by getting everyone else to believe that rubbish?

      Mind games are many times more effective than reality. Google does it all the time. Are the GCD naysayers actually people profiting wildly who are trying to throw you off the path? Or, am I trying to throw you a curve? The only way for you to know for sure is to know your subject matter, which brings me full circle.

      YOU control your success, not some tool or profit hungry narcissist. If you don't know something no one else cares. Stop thinking like you're in grade school and everyone is supposd to feel good about themselves. It didn't work there and it certainly doesn't work in business.
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  • Profile picture of the author WhosMaverick
    I get the feeling some of you expect those who have done their homework to sit around the camp fire with you roasting marsh mellows singing Kumbaya and sharing all they know for free.
    LOL!! Thats funny

    I can't do a direct linking campaign - whine, sniffle snort.
    Tis for testing. But anybody out there *serious* about building a business will need to go further and build the whole nine yards. Or else their in a hell uva ride competing with a gazillion DL´ers...
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    I don't know about the roasting marsh mellows singing Kumbaya part... but the top JVs did get a 7 day trip to a yoga retreat surf camp on the beaches of Mexico.
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  • Profile picture of the author WhosMaverick
    Face the music here folks. Affiliate marketing as it is practiced by many is nothing more than income chasing. You should be collecting leads and building a business instead. If not, you are building someone else's business. Sure you can make a good chunk of change being an income chaser and many people like it, but just know your longevity is limited.
    Amen brother
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  • Profile picture of the author cms418
    Is there anyway around not competing with someone for a bid who is already direct linking to a campaign? What did Chris do with his display URL and how can I do that?
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by cms418 View Post

      Is there anyway around not competing with someone for a bid who is already direct linking to a campaign? What did Chris do with his display URL and how can I do that?
      PM me and I'll show you how. I guarantee it will light up your lightbulb. Don't go telling Mister Know-It-all up top though. Or I'll have to kill you.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnDow
        Metronicity please contact me by skype I can't yet PM on this forum.

        THANK YOU.
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        • Profile picture of the author mbpage9
          Whilst I am totally underwhelmed by GCD I've given them a few days to sort out their s**t. I've just logged in and found wild card url search is now functioning and the forum is up and running.

          Hopefully we can now evaluate the software properly before deciding if it was worth the money. That said, in 3 hours of searching I haven't found anything worthwhile to clone. It really makes you wonder if anyone actually does make money with adwords these days!
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  • Profile picture of the author John Bowie
    That's smart, jrise. I can't help but think GCD is going to create its own firestorm of competing quick-buck product searches that becomes self defeating, particularly with the fact that Google can verify the quality of longer-running campaigns by a whole raft of things like their account set-ups and usage and history, which GCD can't tell you.
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  • Profile picture of the author davesh
    i have been a member of ppc classroom from there i got a reference link for gcd.
    i watch all the videos of gcd from google towel to all the graphicals of online success i tried running one test adword campaign for reversephone lookup which drastically failed the campaign i ran was for 25 bucks with high converting keywords but it miserrably failed after 32 clicks 1.34% CTR and NO SALES i saved my skin getting ripped off for $1997 !!!
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    Hey check this out! http://www.chriscarpenterblog.com/go...e-the-phoenix/ Incredible! He's having the same problems as this launch of 18 months ago. Looks like he hasn't learnt anything from his past fiasco eh?
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    • Profile picture of the author vic1
      Hi All,

      I haven't been around this thread for awhile and I see nothing has changed. LOL

      I'm not a GCD customer but I do have a question for newbies who have recently opened an ad words account with Google.

      I am showing a few people how to do PPC. They all opened brand new accounts just last week.

      To help them, I used similar campaigns that I run now, all successful.
      They used their own landing pages and domains.

      Every one had a 1 quality score and a slap of $10 but Google were showing landing page and relevance ok.

      These are campaigns that almost, but not quite copy my successful campaigns.

      Has anyone using or not using GCD run into this?

      On another note. Before I put up a landing page, I'll direct link for a couple of days and see how the merchant's page sells. I've been doing this for over 8 months. Google has not approved my ad maybe 3 times in 8 months.

      This past week, they have not approved EVERY direct link campaign I have tried. About 10 of them. Never has this happened.

      My account is old. Avg. CTR for 19 ad groups and 4 campaigns is pushing 4.5 with QS of at least 7 on up for everything.

      Anyone else notice this the past week or two?

      I'll post this on the other thread too.

      Thanks,
      Vic
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      • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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        Originally Posted by vic1 View Post

        Hi All,

        I haven't been around this thread for awhile and I see nothing has changed. LOL

        I'm not a GCD customer but I do have a question for newbies who have recently opened an ad words account with Google.

        I am showing a few people how to do PPC. They all opened brand new accounts just last week.

        To help them, I used similar campaigns that I run now, all successful.
        They used their own landing pages and domains.

        Every one had a 1 quality score and a slap of $10 but Google were showing landing page and relevance ok.

        These are campaigns that almost, but not quite copy my successful campaigns.

        Has anyone using or not using GCD run into this?

        On another note. Before I put up a landing page, I'll direct link for a couple of days and see how the merchant's page sells. I've been doing this for over 8 months. Google has not approved my ad maybe 3 times in 8 months.

        This past week, they have not approved EVERY direct link campaign I have tried. About 10 of them. Never has this happened.

        My account is old. Avg. CTR for 19 ad groups and 4 campaigns is pushing 4.5 with QS of at least 7 on up for everything.

        Anyone else notice this the past week or two?

        I'll post this on the other thread too.

        Thanks,
        Vic
        Hang on...direct linking with redirect & cloaking or just direct linking? "Quality Score of 1" - I'd shoot myself - it means Google think you seriously suck. You sure you know what you're doing?
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        • Profile picture of the author vic1
          "Quality Score of 1" - I'd shoot myself - it means Google think you seriously suck. You sure you know what you're doing?
          Would have been a lot easier for me if you would have read the post.

          To help them, I used similar campaigns that I run now, all successful.
          They used their own landing pages and domains.

          Every one had a 1 quality score and a slap of $10 but Google were showing landing page and relevance ok.

          These are campaigns that almost, but not quite copy my successful campaigns.
          I have them coping a campaign that I have that does about 1500 per week.

          My QS scores are 7 and above. My CTR is 4.5.

          With landing pages and the same keywords using a new ad word account they have a QS of 1 even though Google is showing ok for landing page and relevance.

          That was the first part.

          My direct linking are with domains that I use to re-direct.
          I've been doing it for 8 months. All of a sudden they are stopping me.
          I know it's against their TOS, but they have never checked until the past couple of weeks.
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          • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
            This was an issue with the GCD I was a bit leary of ... a business model that is knowingly in violation of Googles rules, AND a business model that is pretty dependent on the "assumption" that someone running an adwords campaign for x number of days - must be making $$$.

            Could it be the product OWNERs campaign? Or the pdt owners own affiliate campaign? It may be their MOST profitable but NOT even profitable :-)

            I was thinking to myself - Self ... what if google has people from their adwords team as members here in Warrior Forum and they get wind of a program like GCD? Hi google - we've been stealing millions of your revenues for months under the radar, and now we;re going to show 1,000's of others how to do the same thing next week ... Things that make you go hrmmmm.

            Rather odd no that they are starting to crack down hard, and publish an article on it mere days after the GCD launch? What did Chris Carpenter know and when di he know it?

            Sounds like a great time to be a product creator ....
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            • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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              Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

              This was an issue with the GCD I was a bit leary of ... a business model that is knowingly in violation of Googles rules, AND a business model that is pretty dependent on the "assumption" that someone running an adwords campaign for x number of days - must be making $$$.

              Could it be the product OWNERs campaign? Or the pdt owners own affiliate campaign? It may be their MOST profitable but NOT even profitable :-)

              I was thinking to myself - Self ... what if google has people from their adwords team as members here in Warrior Forum and they get wind of a program like GCD? Hi google - we've been stealing millions of your revenues for months under the radar, and now we;re going to show 1,000's of others how to do the same thing next week ... Things that make you go hrmmmm.

              Rather odd no that they are starting to crack down hard, and publish an article on it mere days after the GCD launch? What did Chris Carpenter know and when di he know it?

              Sounds like a great time to be a product creator ....
              You're right. Google are not stupid. And I'm not sure what algorithms GCD is basing its "Profitability" on. But as I've said before - there's more to the equation than that. There's your History with Google Adwords for starters. Things like - Are you consistently getting good CTR?. Have you been around for awhile? Are you paying your bills on time.? Do they like the sites you're promoting? - all that. I'm highly suspicious of these types who claim to have a surefire system of milking Adwords. Bottom line - if its that good how come they're sharing it? And then we have the fact that Carpenter also runs a surf-camp plus yoga school in beautiful downtown Mexico. Something fishy there.
              I notice his sidekick Jonathan Paul has gone quiet on this Forum.
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              • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
                He's prob busy on their forum arguing with pissed off customers
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          • Profile picture of the author thomashoi
            Originally Posted by vic1 View Post

            Would have been a lot easier for me if you would have read the post.

            I have them coping a campaign that I have that does about 1500 per week.

            My QS scores are 7 and above. My CTR is 4.5.

            With landing pages and the same keywords using a new ad word account they have a QS of 1 even though Google is showing ok for landing page and relevance.

            That was the first part.

            My direct linking are with domains that I use to re-direct.
            I've been doing it for 8 months. All of a sudden they are stopping me.
            I know it's against their TOS, but they have never checked until the past couple of weeks.
            I think google is punishing advertisers that are not bring values to their customers. As you and I know, adwords is the bread and butter of google, therefore they make sure advertisers are doing their job.

            if QS is 1, check the keyword you are bidding, and also the ads and the landing page.
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    • Profile picture of the author JNFerree
      Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

      Hey check this out! http://www.chriscarpenterblog.com/go...e-the-phoenix/ Incredible! He's having the same problems as this launch of 18 months ago. Looks like he hasn't learnt anything from his past fiasco eh?
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      • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
        Originally Posted by JNFerree View Post

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        No problem, just check Google Cache for Google Cash

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        • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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          Originally Posted by Yusuf View Post

          No problem, just check Google Cache for Google Cash

          GoogleCash's Official Blog
          "Google Cache for Google Cash". Ha ha. He can run but he can't hide huh. Thanks for posting that. The link worked when I first posted it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    There was a thread about this on GCD forums about how people aren't able to get a campaign up with direct linking, not even for testing purposes.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by Yusuf View Post

      There was a thread about this on GCD forums about how people aren't able to get a campaign up with direct linking, not even for testing purposes.
      Probably means they have no history/no credibility/and Google doesn't like the shit they're promoting. And talking about GCD - they have no credibility. That guy should take his surfboard and just paddle off into the sunset. He just adds to the general perception that affiliate marketing is a scam.
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  • Profile picture of the author maiko2299
    What about googspy.com???? Have you used this or am I out in Left field somewhere??
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnDow
      Hey all, There is something GOOD to say.
      I did go in for a refund. They processed it smooth like butter... NO problems at all.
      Credited back to my Credit Card in 3 working days, but transaction date was same as refund day. Nothing to complain about.

      I still can log-in though. Can't use any functionality there, but you can sign up again in case you change your mind for $197,-. (They don't tell for what period, but i guess it's monthly.)

      All together I will gave you this thought, but remember It's just MY flipping mind twist:

      If you have access to the database THEY build, it's very easy to them to put filters in place to find the gold nuggets on autopilot and also to block them for us. I've spend literally HOURS and researched 100's of keywords to find a few more or less profitable campaigns exactly how they teach us. Cloned them, got cheap clicks and views (however price is going up > U will need a landing page to avoid) but so far no sales on about spending $25,- on ad words. Another guy found his own "profitable" campaign but really was NOT. I know, history tracking IS a perfect way to find out about your competitors are doing, but only if you get exposed to everything. Building your own base is much more work and time consuming but the results are exclusive.

      People on the forum that are still in the program post your success stories if you have any and I might over think this twist, or apologize, but so far I think we pay big $$$ to feed more valuable keywords to the system they can "shave".

      Success everybody.
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  • Profile picture of the author jcaviani
    Two of your most important metrics are lifetime customer value and cost of customer acquisition. If you play the affiliate game on its very bottom level - direct linking, no list, no backend, you will be eventually playing against someone who can afford to lose money on lead generation because their backend is a continuity or high ticket item that sells well.

    If you have a well performing $3500.00 backend in a market where your competitors have only a front end $50.00 information product, who do you think will win in Adwords? Knowing your lifetime customer value tells you exactly how much you can afford to spend to acquire a lead.

    While you can certainly make money in many markets (especially if they are undiscovered) as a bottom tier affiliate, it's much smarter and more profitable to turn prospects into customers through value. Providing value will be substantially more profitable long term than income chasing because you have a asset you can develop or sell.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by jcaviani View Post

      Two of your most important metrics are lifetime customer value and cost of customer acquisition. If you play the affiliate game on its very bottom level - direct linking, no list, no backend, you will be eventually playing against someone who can afford to lose money on lead generation because their backend is a continuity or high ticket item that sells well.

      If you have a well performing $3500.00 backend in a market where your competitors have only a front end $50.00 information product, who do you think will win in Adwords? Knowing your lifetime customer value tells you exactly how much you can afford to spend to acquire a lead.

      While you can certainly make money in many markets (especially if they are undiscovered) as a bottom tier affiliate, it's much smarter and more profitable to turn prospects into customers through value. Providing value will be substantially more profitable long term than income chasing because you have a asset you can develop or sell.
      And are you making money, Einstein?
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      • Profile picture of the author veotis
        Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

        And are you making money, Einstein?
        Yeah, he is. He's a respected member on a paid forum that I'm a member of. In the few posts he made in this thread, he gave some great information. He just comes on a little strong, but he definitely knows what he is talking about.
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  • Profile picture of the author BryanJLaz
    I purchased GCD and got a refund.. It is not working effectively.
    In addition, I would get PPCBully & Keycompete and you will be good to go..
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  • Profile picture of the author eric w
    Hi..i'm not new to making money on the internet, but i am new to adwords. I also purchased gcd ($997 up front and $97 monthly..ouch! lol..same as google conquest)

    I get a lot of benefit from reading the posts here.

    I've found a lot of markets with gcd where people are direct linking and have been doing so for long periods of time with profitability indexes of 5,000 and higher..some as high as 12,000! (gcd users will know what that means)

    In the weekly training webinars, there's good info regarding how to go into the infamous "reverse phone"

    Anyway, i've found many kw's and markets with gcd that "seem" ripe for the picking

    I'll see after i run my first campaigns

    Any advice is appreciated for this adwords newbie

    eric
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    • Profile picture of the author schnisz
      Hey Eric- congrats on taking action! Thats a big leap of faith to take for a newbie. I have been watching this thread intently. Please keep us updated on your progress especially money in versus money out. Good luck!
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      • Profile picture of the author jack101
        Anybody home? It's very quiet in here. Perhaps you're all busy making money or have applied for refunds. It would be nice to hear from some winners as encouragement to us newbies.
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  • Profile picture of the author wicked9690
    I would also be interested in hearing how it is going for GCD users now that they have things back on track.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by wicked9690 View Post

      I would also be interested in hearing how it is going for GCD users now that they have things back on track.
      "Now that they have things back on track" - laughing my ass off. You can not be serious.
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  • Profile picture of the author eric w
    thanks schnisz, i'll do that

    metronicity gave me some good advice and i plan on having a few campaigns up to test by this weekend

    the gcd webinars are very informative

    as a newbie, i'm treading lightly..i'm not going after those "reverse phone look up" examples

    as i'm typing here, i'm listening to a gcd webinar on how to clone a campaign and frank is showing in detail how to do it

    he's doing it for the newbie

    the good thing about frank's teaching, is that he's stressing taking it slow for the beginner and he actually showed us (not today) how to do cheap tests..one example is spending $1 per day and exactly how long to run it, and how to correctly interpret the results

    now, he's giving a good comparison between going after those "fatloss4idiots" and "phone look-up" markets

    he's saying he wouldn't suggest going after them..yet

    well, i'm going to finish with the webinar

    last not, there's a great feature that i really like with gcd,....it's the wild card search

    i can search all clickbank and all cpa program campaigns...every last one of them!...clickbooth, commission junction, etc, etc.

    well, gotta go...i'll keep you all updated on how i do

    thanks everyone
    eric
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon Harding
    Personally, I've used GCD ever since the first version came out.

    The support section is great and the ability to look at existing and historic PPC information and then look at the affiliate and see what otehr keywords they use is great.

    Personally if entering a niche, I like to:

    1. Find a fast selling Clickbank product wiith good gravity and then look for steady sellers
    2. Enter the product name into GCD2 and look at the ads;
    3. I find an affiliate running a lot of ads with good scores, that have been shown regularly for a reasonable amount of time and copy the keywords used; repeat
    4. I enter the URL of the CB product into Google external keyword tool, search for domain and pull off those keywords;
    5. I fire up Market Samurai, start up a new project on the product name, enter the keywords the top affiliates use and the product name keywords;
    6. I repeat for the other Clickbank products and enter them too;
    7. I now, by the way, have a list of all the keywords the top affiliates use for the product using CGD2;
    8. I copy their best performing ads into a swipe file
    9. I then use MS to analyse the keywords and the SEO competition (this is time consuming)
    10. I then create a list of keywords to target with PPC, those to target with organic results and those that fit into both categories
    11. I then create a website and cater it around optimsing it for using those keywords using Semiologic Wordpress blogs;I outsource the content creation as a rule
    12. I then use a seperate site with a variety of landing apges, opt-in pages and review pages and split test different pages using Affilaite Prophet and track conversions.

    If anyone wants more information on my method, tell me.

    So using CGD as part of a method can get you good results!

    If you just use the results for academic purposes it will do you no good.

    Best wishes

    Simon
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by Simon Harding View Post

      Personally, I've used GCD ever since the first version came out.

      The support section is great and the ability to look at existing and historic PPC information and then look at the affiliate and see what otehr keywords they use is great.

      Personally if entering a niche, I like to:

      1. Find a fast selling Clickbank product wiith good gravity and then look for steady sellers
      2. Enter the product name into GCD2 and look at the ads;
      3. I find an affiliate running a lot of ads with good scores, that have been shown regularly for a reasonable amount of time and copy the keywords used; repeat
      4. I enter the URL of the CB product into Google external keyword tool, search for domain and pull off those keywords;
      5. I fire up Market Samurai, start up a new project on the product name, enter the keywords the top affiliates use and the product name keywords;
      6. I repeat for the other Clickbank products and enter them too;
      7. I now, by the way, have a list of all the keywords the top affiliates use for the product using CGD2;
      8. I copy their best performing ads into a swipe file
      9. I then use MS to analyse the keywords and the SEO competition (this is time consuming)
      10. I then create a list of keywords to target with PPC, those to target with organic results and those that fit into both categories
      11. I then create a website and cater it around optimsing it for using those keywords using Semiologic Wordpress blogs;I outsource the content creation as a rule
      12. I then use a seperate site with a variety of landing apges, opt-in pages and review pages and split test different pages using Affilaite Prophet and track conversions.

      If anyone wants more information on my method, tell me.

      So using CGD as part of a method can get you good results!

      If you just use the results for academic purposes it will do you no good.

      Best wishes

      Simon
      Hang on, hang on..."the support section is great". That was not my experience nor a lot of others here. In fact, in a word, I would describe their so-called "support" as woeful. For instance, I'm no longer with them (and got my refund yesterday), but Jonathon Paul answered one of my Support Tickets just yesterday - two weeks late. And that in anyone's estimation has got to be plain out pathetic. It was marked "high priority" or "urgent" or whatever they called it.

      As for the rest of what you've said here you're just regurgitating the party line from the GoogleCashDetective little red book. I'm beginning to wonder if you are indeed a plant from GCD.

      Bottom Line: Are you making any real dosh from your great system? Does it offset the $2600+ a year those nice gentlemen from GCD are charging?

      BTW I see on your bloggie you describe yourself as a Barrister as well as an internet marketer. How very curious. What - the bar doesn't pay enough? Or do you just like whizzing around the affiliate track for thrills? You also answer my question as to whether you're making any money -

      I have being a struggling internet marketer for some time. Now, however, I feel like I'm making a series of breakthroughs. I'm not going to pretend I'm a genius at this or that I have thousands and thousands of pounds/dollars of income every month. (Yet).
      Actually, last year I went from breaking even to beginning to make money. And I plan to keep it that way.
      I guess being a Barrister you'd be well up on the Law as it pertains to Misrepresentation wouldn't you?

      StopPress: I see you've written a book that you're giving away free to all new subscribers to your blog. With the snappy title - "AFFILIATE JUDGEMENT DAY" and a great shoutline "It is time". Bravo.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    Originally Posted by dan dan View Post

    For us this is the best spy software on the market .
    Oh look - another acolyte from GCD. You joined Warrior Forum today and this is all you have to say? Pray tell us why you think its the "best spy software on the planet".
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon Harding
    Hey Metronicity

    Thanks for the flame.

    You are right inasmuch as I can't comment on the support in terms of the tickets and so forth because I haven't used that. I have used the videos which I have felt useful and there are lots of videos and webinars.

    I like the product and have used it since ths start. Other people may have a different experience.

    But, why so angry? Can't other people express opinions?

    You are as welcome to your opinions as I am to mine.

    As to making money, as I have said, it fluctuates. I wish I made more, of course and I have good months and bad months.

    By the way, cute picture of your son on your site.


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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by Simon Harding View Post

      Hey Metronicity

      Thanks for the flame.

      You are right inasmuch as I can't comment on the support in terms of the tickets and so forth because I haven't used that. I have used the videos which I have felt useful and there are lots of videos and webinars.

      I like the product and have used it since ths start. Other people may have a different experience.

      But, why so angry? Can't other people express opinions?

      You are as welcome to your opinions as I am to mine.

      As to making money, as I have said, it fluctuates. I wish I made more, of course and I have good months and bad months.

      By the way, cute picture of your son on your site.


      Simon
      Angry? Huh? You think that angry? And "Flame" - you truly think that a flame? I'm just telling it how it is - a complete fiasco - how can you deny that? And Voila - there you go - you've had no experience with Support. I have. A bad experience. A monumentally bad experience. I'm filing with the FTC as we speak. We'll see how he likes them apples. I note you don't talk about your Law gig.
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      • Profile picture of the author rhj12345
        I purchased GCD and will be asking for a refund, I still have a few weeks left. I have never made any money using PPC and would like to see it just once.

        So if you have NOT purchased GCD and you are good at PPC then maybe we can try an experiment for a few days or a week. Lets create a campaign together using your skills and my GCD and lets see if it works. I suspect the people who bought GCD were newbie's like me and thanks to WF I now see I made a mistake.

        I have enjoyed the training and picked up some good tips, but looking at PPCBully, with the exception of time, it does the same thing. I also agree long term this is not the way to build money on line, kind of like a Lawyer chasing an Ambulance, the Ambulance eventually runs out of gas.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Check out this thread - the call pretty much questions the Google cash method, to say the least, and that even if it's working right now then it probably won't be for long.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
    I asked for a refund yesterday.

    Let me say first GCD is indeed an amazing spy tool, but the lack of simple filters means you search for HOURS before coming up with useful data. And that's shows you something right there: it seems nobody is making money in PPC anymore!

    The first campaigns I found that were seemingly profitable were all by merchants or big name stores... not by affiliates. I finally found some, cloned a few kws, and got PATHETIC CTR, like 0,01% while being in top 3 spots. I didn't waste much money, but copying what seems like good, long running ads I expected better.

    I saw one of my own campaigns shown in part to be profitable and let me tell you it was not!

    The ability to look at all the landing pages in slide shows is great, but not worth the price tag by any stretch.


    I'm disappointed to say the least.
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    • Profile picture of the author rhj12345
      Yes, I found it to be the same. Hours of research for nothing.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by Jay Rhome View Post

      I asked for a refund yesterday.

      Let me say first GCD is indeed an amazing spy tool, but the lack of simple filters means you search for HOURS before coming up with useful data. And that's shows you something right there: it seems nobody is making money in PPC anymore!

      The first campaigns I found that were seemingly profitable were all by merchants or big name stores... not by affiliates. I finally found some, cloned a few kws, and got PATHETIC CTR, like 0,01% while being in top 3 spots. I didn't waste much money, but copying what seems like good, long running ads I expected better.

      I saw one of my own campaigns shown in part to be profitable and let me tell you it was not!

      The ability to look at all the landing pages in slide shows is great, but not worth the price tag by any stretch.


      I'm disappointed to say the least.
      I had a go at several supposedly "successful" campaigns and got good CTR but no conversions. Spot #1 & #2 is not where you want to be. #4 converts better. So you need to direct link with redirect & mask (have a look at my site) or build your own landing page. But yeah - the basic premise they're flogging this program with - "Clone a successful campaign and rake in the dough" is seriously flawed. You pay too much for clicks for one thing. The pros are getting them for .05 cents while we are charged a dollar or more.

      The GCD so-called "profitabilty" index is a crock. BTW if you want a free affiliate spy tool similar to GCD - PM me. No it's not PPC Spy - much better than that. But it is a FireFox plugin.
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  • Profile picture of the author jiht76
    I had bought GCD and this are my first impressions:

    Great tool to finding ideas, but not so good for "clonning" campaigns (I've tested it)
    A lot of sites with great traffic/popularity have LOTS of people promoting them as affiliates... but not for too long.

    This could mean that:

    A- It's not that easy to find campaigns to clone... and even if you do, clonning wil NOT guarantee your results.
    B- It's a better idea to find affiliates for your product than to be an affiliate.

    I'm still testing the software, I'm still don't have good results from it yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    So far it seems no one has really gotten any major results with GCD, or if they have then they aren't making it public... this includes the GCD Forums not just Warrior Forums.

    Anyone who has had results is (a) not sure exactly what happened and they're still learning how they got them, which is fine and normal but could be that they themselves did something useful, or (b) already extremely familiar with PPC.

    Almost every single training video so far is just repeating the same things more or less in different ways. There is no check list or step-by-step direction. So while I agree it is a good spy tool... any tool, regardless of how wonderful it is, is useless without a operator's manual and any organized training whatsoever. A NASA spaceship can take you to outer space, but not if you don't know how to launch off and pilot it. In fact, if you don't know how to use the tool it can end up harming you, such as the spaceship blowing up and crashing or you losing tons of $ on PPC campaigns.

    The key is that this product was mostly marketed to those with rough knowledge of PPC affiliate marketing, and it was understood that the training would be provided but as of now everything continues to be promised for delivery. I don't doubt it will be delivered necessarily, but probably 99.9% of those who purchased GCD were aiming to use the tool to pay off as much of it as possible within the 30 day trial.
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  • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
    I'm pretty new to warrior forums but have been keeping up w/ this thread and have "bought into" both PPC Classroom and GCD. I just got a horrible sinking feeling once I committed to GCD and started using it. The launch, support and training were a train wreck and I put in for a refund last week. Happy to report that I do already have my $ back.

    Jury is still out on PPC - I don't like the way Anik keeps pitching anything and everything to members.
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    • Profile picture of the author cambric
      Originally Posted by trishworks4u View Post

      I'm pretty new to warrior forums but have been keeping up w/ this thread and have "bought into" both PPC Classroom and GCD. I just got a horrible sinking feeling once I committed to GCD and started using it. The launch, support and training were a train wreck and I put in for a refund last week. Happy to report that I do already have my $ back.

      Jury is still out on PPC - I don't like the way Anik keeps pitching anything and everything to members.
      I have to agree 100% with you. I got my money back last week, thank goodness, and I have enjoyed PPC Classroom, but Anik does promote a lot of things, including GCD.

      I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to stay for a 3rd month with PPC...but I do feel tons better about them than I did about GCD!
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    • Profile picture of the author Aaron Elliott
      Jury is still out on PPC - I don't like the way Anik keeps pitching anything and everything to members.[/quote]

      This is why I left PPC, everytime Anik speaks its about how much fun he has with all his money and how he can have a holiday all the time. He also sends crap to my email all the time promoting other offers, eg GGD, he only promotes this because each commission is over 500 bucks for him. Not to mention the support sucked with PPC.

      I forgot to mention the 'free' dvd that was sent out was another marketing hype it had no helpful info on there what so ever.

      Bit of topic.. but anyway thats how I heard about GGD.
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      • Profile picture of the author mido
        Originally Posted by Kitejunkiee View Post

        Jury is still out on PPC - I don't like the way Anik keeps pitching anything and everything to members.
        This is why I left PPC, everytime Anik speaks its about how much fun he has with all his money and how he can have a holiday all the time. He also sends crap to my email all the time promoting other offers, eg GGD, he only promotes this because each commission is over 500 bucks for him. Not to mention the support sucked with PPC.

        I forgot to mention the 'free' dvd that was sent out was another marketing hype it had no helpful info on there what so ever. [/quote]

        Exactly, I left PPCC1 because of Anik and I'll leave PPCC2 because of Anik. Amit is OK.
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    • Profile picture of the author Avidpoet
      Originally Posted by trishworks4u View Post

      I'm pretty new to warrior forums but have been keeping up w/ this thread and have "bought into" both PPC Classroom and GCD. I just got a horrible sinking feeling once I committed to GCD and started using it. The launch, support and training were a train wreck and I put in for a refund last week. Happy to report that I do already have my $ back.

      Jury is still out on PPC - I don't like the way Anik keeps pitching anything and everything to members.

      Thats the reason why I asked for a refund from PPC Classroom. It seemed like the next week it was them pitching ppc bully then google cash detective 2. Its hard to stay focused when your teacher is sending you other products or services. Im still subscribed to their list and they are pitching ppc 2.0 today lol
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      • Profile picture of the author Aaron Elliott
        I know, also they teach you how to do PPC, but then they give you a stack of bonus such as speed PPC, and alot more programs. Im like hang on they just tought us how to use excel for PPC, now we get this program + many other progrsms.

        Anyway, right now im unsubscribing from all lists but 2. So sick of all this upselling crap.
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    • Profile picture of the author KentuckyJeff
      Originally Posted by trishworks4u View Post

      I'm pretty new to warrior forums but have been keeping up w/ this thread and have "bought into" both PPC Classroom and GCD. I just got a horrible sinking feeling once I committed to GCD and started using it. The launch, support and training were a train wreck and I put in for a refund last week. Happy to report that I do already have my $ back.

      Jury is still out on PPC - I don't like the way Anik keeps pitching anything and everything to members.

      I didn't go for GCD2 (or 1). I can't really imagine what product that I would pay two grand for. It's a shame that for that kind of money they couldn't even work out the most basic elements of getting up and running.

      I joined PPC Classroom after the first launch (Oct. '08 ?). I got that same sinking feeling just after the $$ transaction, and I had to wade through offer after offer before I could even get to the 'classroom.' It really is a major turn-off. It had a feeling of greed and desperation. I'll never look seriously at any other products from the same people.

      Although I did learn a few things in PPC Classroom, I didn't feel there was nearly enough to ask for a monthly fee. I believe I paid an initial $77 and $29 monthly thereafter. It may have been a decent offering as a $47 ebook, if you were a complete newbie. Obviously I'm no longer a member.

      It seems as though some of these so-called Gurus make their biggest money on their launches, so they just keep having one after another.
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      • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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        Originally Posted by KentuckyJeff View Post

        I didn't go for GCD2 (or 1). I can't really imagine what product that I would pay two grand for. It's a shame that for that kind of money they couldn't even work out the most basic elements of getting up and running.

        I joined PPC Classroom after the first launch (Oct. '08 ?). I got that same sinking feeling just after the $$ transaction, and I had to wade through offer after offer before I could even get to the 'classroom.' It really is a major turn-off. It had a feeling of greed and desperation. I'll never look seriously at any other products from the same people.

        Although I did learn a few things in PPC Classroom, I didn't feel there was nearly enough to ask for a monthly fee. I believe I paid an initial $77 and $29 monthly thereafter. It may have been a decent offering as a $47 ebook, if you were a complete newbie. Obviously I'm no longer a member.

        It seems as though some of these so-called Gurus make their biggest money on their launches, so they just keep having one after another.
        Yep. had the same experience with both. But you're not allowed to say anything, don't you know, because that would be "negative". GCD weren't posting any comments that were even remotedly "negative". Even in the Forum which is supposed to be, by definition, "A public meeting place for open discussion".
        And this is a Forum here so I'm gonna say it - I think all these kinds of programs are run by out-and-out crooks. Greedy, selfish, grasping, ruthless crooks who prey on Newbies and the gullible or hopeful dreamers.
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  • Profile picture of the author EricDestiny
    Originally Posted by jrise View Post

    Btw, I did what he said manually in the pre launch videos and I made money. I made around $215 with the reverse phone detective and only spend $65 on ppc. Manually guys in 3 days! Do you know how much I will be making if I had the software and could clone like 20 campaigns per week and would set a budget of $500 a day? That would be a nice and juicy 30 or 40K per month. I mean.. thats just awsome, hello? anybody there? I said awsome oke! Well, this train is going to leave so you better decide if you want to hop on.

    Peace

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    Hey man,

    Sound like this software is a winner for you.

    Btw, since you've used the software, do you know what's the different between GCD 2 and keywordspy.com?

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Elliott
    It is a program that shows how long other people have been running adword campagins. Shows what keyowrds, bid prices ect they are using. The idea is you can copy their campaign's.
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  • Profile picture of the author jkmg
    I too bouhgt into PPC and GCD. I will be requesting a refund from gcd because I have lost more money than it cost me to join (which was a lot). I bought into a different program and started making money the right way (Hard work and a business plan!). The program I ended up with is the best I have seen! and there is only one upsell, which EVERY marketer should have! (Market Samurai). Once you learn to use that software, you will never log into PPC or GCD again!
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    Haven't tried it.

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  • Profile picture of the author jkmg
    I just want to add that when Anik and GCD provide trainings, they use examples of good niches to use. The problem is that it was a good niche to THEM before they exposed it to several thousand newbies who were inevitably going to jump on that bandwagon. The one great campaign I had was destroyed in 6 hours (after 5 weeks of hard work) when they used it as a training example. Nobody seems to understand how to use the tools to find UNIQUE and less competitive niches. My feeling was it was just too much hard work to have them potentially destroy every campaign you work hard on (meaning that if it is profitable, it WILL show up in GCD and every noob on earth will destroy it by cloning it)
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  • Profile picture of the author Austin Kendall
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by Austin Kendall View Post

      Yep, forget what you heard about GCD first time around. I've used just about every spy tool there is (PPC Bully, iSpionage, Zamdoo, Under Cover Profits, AdSpyPro, etc.) and this is the best.

      Main reason is that it has a database of a couple million keywords and has been tracking them for several months. All I do is drop in a keyword, and I see every advertiser's ad that has been running against it, and how long they have been running.

      All other tools require you to enter your keywords, then wait until they BEGIN searching on them, from that day forward. So you'll wait 20-30 days to see if the keyword is still being run by an advertiser.

      GCD gives you that data now, so it slashes the time it takes to enter a market. It lets you see all the advertisers ads and in some cases you can see what other markets that advertiser is in (useful if you want to track and emulate a superaffiliate.)

      I went through the pain of the first GCD launch, and was skeptical when I heard it was back out. But I've been using it for a month, entering markets profitably, as well as expanding my keywords for existing markets I am in.

      I can tell you Chris has done a real good job of turning the GCD ship around. Keep an eye out for the launch (although I am part of the beta I am not privvy to the launch date.)
      You sound like a paid spokesperson for GCD. Almost mirroring word-for-word the party line. "I can tell you Chris has done a real good job of turning the GCD ship around". Yeah, right. How on earth can you claim that? From what I can see here and other Forums and people EMAILING me (almost daily) - there's a lot of unhappy campers out there. Unhappy with one Chris Carpenter and his GoogleCashDefective. In my book he's done a truly DREADFUL job. Go back and read over the comments.

      "Keep an eye out for the launch" - hello - it launched 4 weeks ago. That's what we're all so steamed about - the disastrous launch. You sure you're even a member? How come you didn't know that? The servers had huge problems for starters - which must have affected you along with everyone else.

      There goes your credibility. "Join date: April 2009". I smell a rat here.
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      • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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        Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

        You sound like a paid spokesperson for GCD. Almost mirroring word-for-word the party line. "I can tell you Chris has done a real good job of turning the GCD ship around". Yeah, right. How on earth can you claim that? From what I can see here and other Forums and people EMAILING me (almost daily) - there's a lot of unhappy campers out there. Unhappy with one Chris Carpenter and his GoogleCashDefective. In my book he's done a truly DREADFUL job. Go back and read over the comments.

        "Keep an eye out for the launch" - hello - it launched 4 weeks ago. That's what we're all so steamed about - the disastrous launch. You sure you're even a member? How come you didn't know that? The servers had huge problems for starters - which must have affected you along with everyone else.

        There goes your credibility. "Join date: April 2009". I smell a rat here.
        Lookee, lookee. "Austin Kendall" has taken his post down. How very surprising. He's gone off the Grid too. Now who exactly is this "Austin Kendall"? This GCD "beta tester" who wasn't even aware that it launched 4 weeks ago. "I can tell you Chris has done a real good job of turning the GCD ship around. Keep an eye out for the launch (although I am part of the beta I am not privvy to the launch date."
        Too funny. Austin Kendall please call home.

        BTW there's an "Austin Kendall" on facebook. He's a "friend" of Jennifer Lopez.
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  • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
    Mate it was launched on March 10, i was part of beta before that date i had to ask for a refund mainly because it didn't have data for the UK so it wasn't any use to my business model. Plus some of the results it returned were very strange to say the least !!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author thomashoi
    Seems that many newbies is jumping into the ppc market without realizing the danger.

    Unless you are already making some money in a certain niche and have understand your target audience, you should not go into ppc.

    Many of the newbies faced google slap where cpc suddenly shoot up to $10 and they lost hundreds in a day.

    If you are already experienced in IM, I think gcd can give you more ideas and angles to play with ppc and put your campaign on steroids.
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      Originally Posted by INDIAMORE View Post

      Actually googe rejects my relations always. why...
      Your message isn't clear. What are you saying?
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  • Profile picture of the author RoyChan
    Hey,

    What's wrong with GCD? I am a member of it, but don't see any hicups at this point. What's the "charges" and "verdict"? GCD1.0 was bad, but GCD2.0 looks and works well for me.

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  • Profile picture of the author jiht76
    I'm sad I didn't check this thread before.

    I already bought GCD and had no results.

    I'm a Google Advertising Professional with over 7 years of experience and I think I'm capable enough to find good business opportunities with GCD.
    I had even created a Pay per Click software which I use with my customers and let me pay really low per click.

    But even with that and weeks of trying I had no results whatsoever.

    I started the process of asking for a refund. I hope I have no problems there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick.A
      Originally Posted by jiht76 View Post

      I'm sad I didn't check this thread before.

      I already bought GCD and had no results.

      I'm a Google Advertising Professional with over 7 years of experience and I think I'm capable enough to find good business opportunities with GCD.
      I had even created a Pay per Click software which I use with my customers and let me pay really low per click.

      But even with that and weeks of trying I had no results whatsoever.

      I started the process of asking for a refund. I hope I have no problems there.
      So, as you are a Google Advertising Professional with over 7 years experience, what did you think GCD might do for you and how did it fail to achieve this?

      By the way, the URL in your signature doesn't work -- hover your mouse over it and you will see why. The video on your site doesn't work either.
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      • Profile picture of the author Guru
        Originally Posted by Nick.A View Post

        So, as you are a Google Advertising Professional with over 7 years experience, what did you think GCD might do for you and how did it fail to achieve this?

        By the way, the URL in your signature doesn't work -- hover your mouse over it and you will see why. The video on your site doesn't work either.

        i think these are the reason for GCD to not work for people
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    • Profile picture of the author thomashoi
      Originally Posted by jiht76 View Post

      I'm sad I didn't check this thread before.

      I already bought GCD and had no results.

      I'm a Google Advertising Professional with over 7 years of experience and I think I'm capable enough to find good business opportunities with GCD.
      I had even created a Pay per Click software which I use with my customers and let me pay really low per click.

      But even with that and weeks of trying I had no results whatsoever.

      I started the process of asking for a refund. I hope I have no problems there.
      Unless you have already do your market research well i.e
      1. find the hungry crowd
      2. find out what they really want

      the keywords provided by GCD is useless

      keywords are not the answer, the person who types the keyword into
      the google search engine is the answer.

      Try and understand what the person is looking for when they type in a
      certain keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark C
    Good info. I bit the bullet and dropped $1997 on GCD. Very skeptical. I recently received an email from Perry Marshall recommending Adwords Accelerator They have some big companies using this product...??? I watched the demo. Does anyone know about this tool? Should I get my money back for GCD.

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    • Profile picture of the author RoyChan
      Originally Posted by Mark C View Post

      Good info. I bit the bullet and dropped $1997 on GCD. Very skeptical. I recently received an email from Perry Marshall recommending Adwords Accelerator They have some big companies using this product...??? I watched the demo. Does anyone know about this tool? Should I get my money back for GCD.

      A confused Newbie, information overloaded,
      hey, sorry to jump in, but I guess, I need to say a few fair comments re: GCD.

      Have you attempted the training video? If you do, at least you will learn a few things.

      If you want the quick and easy, you can do so by following their direct linking training tutorials (which by the way) I am doing myself. Analyze the long term direct linking programs, check out how people do it. Spend an hour or so, sitting and thinking how people pitched those programs. Most importantly, you need to think, why people are buying what they are buying or acting ... Don't quit, study and learn.

      Also, you may use your current experience to see what market sells.

      I can't say too much, as I don't know your experience, but overall, I think GCD is a GREAT tool. Use it to its greatest potential.

      If you are new, PM me... see what I can do for you.

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      • Profile picture of the author rhj12345
        For everybody who posted in here, thank you. I purchased GCD and asked for a refund based on what was posted.

        I have to say I did get a few golden nuggets out of there training videos, but the software never made me any money.

        The only thing that was an eye opener using GCD was how many people drop there ads after only a few days. Anybody making money on adwords?

        My refund only took a few days, I do not believe the people at GCD are dishonest, and some of the posted remarks were a little harsh. I just think they tried to create a product with the best intentions and failed to get it right.

        Anybody reading this, here is the lesson. Read Warrior Forum BEFORE you buy anything, these people know there stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author Atrain818
    I just got my GCD refund. It just did not live up to expectations or to claims made in the promo videos. The training section is a disjointed mess and from what i have seen no one is making money with it. In the members forum ther is a thread asking if anyone is making money, no one is. Lots of posts from enthusiastic people who are sure the next campaign will be the big winner but not a single person actually making money. I am far from a PPC expert but I do have 2 profitable campaigns that have been running for some time with landing pages and cheap long tail key words. I launched 23 direct link campaigns with the data I collected using GCD and not a single sale, not one. Lots of expensive clicks though. I tweeked an ad group in one of my profitable non GCD campaigns using GCD data and my conversions stopped cold. Switched it back and conversions started again.Refund was prompt so props for that.
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    • Profile picture of the author 4runner
      Just refunded myself too. I use ppcbully & spyfu as well as ppc kahuna for essentially the same data and it's a helluva lot cheaper!

      Also, what most people probably don't realize is, MOST of the people that are profitable and running adwords campaigns (translation - the ones that you would bother spying on and cloning) probably know how to block access of GCD and most spytools to their sites/landing pages. I ran a series of tests during my "trial" of GCD and since I knew what to block via my .htaccess file, NONE of my campaigns were visible on GCD and I ran them for an entire month on common keywords (and made no money)

      In another words, people that you'd want to copy - you probably aren't going to find them anymore on a go-forward basis. This was easy to verify because when I first signed up, I found NUMEROUS "review style" generic domains direct linking to HUNDREDS of click bank products or CPA offers - ALL of them running for over 120 days or more with profitablity indexes of 12,000 or more (again, this is debatable). All of a sudden, within about a week of membership, all those campaigns showed the campaign wasn't running any longer according to GCD - but if I went and just googled it myself, sure enough the ad was there.

      What does this mean? Obviously, once these advertisers knew GCD was released and tons of us were going to be spying on their domains - it was VERY easy to block the GCD tracking algorithm and the top guys will be doing everything they can to avoid spytools from seeing what they are doing.

      If you simply google "block spy tools", you'll see tons of references on how to modify your .htaccess file and how to block spyfu, keywordspy, etc etc etc.

      of course, there's ways around that too, but that's a different discussion

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      • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
        Originally Posted by 4-runner View Post

        What does this mean? Obviously, once these advertisers knew GCD was released and tons of us were going to be spying on their domains - it was VERY easy to block the GCD tracking algorithm and the top guys will be doing everything they can to avoid spytools from seeing what they are doing.

        If you simply google "block spy tools", you'll see tons of references on how to modify your .htaccess file and how to block spyfu, keywordspy, etc etc etc.

        of course, there's ways around that too, but that's a different discussion

        T.

        Thanks for good info! BTW, can they block website duplication tools like teleport?

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        • Profile picture of the author DukeNasty
          Here is a stupid question. How in the heck do you request a refund at GCD? There wasn't a "cancel" button or a "refund" button from what I could see. Do you simply submit a support ticket and wait for your refund? Thanks

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          • Profile picture of the author Awakened
            Submit a support ticket. They will send you a link via e-mail to submit an additional support ticket asking for a reason for the refund request. In addition you need to uncheck the programs on the support ticket. Just submitted refund request last night. Impatiently waiting for it to hit my bank account - hope that helps
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            • Profile picture of the author AffiliateMax
              Originally Posted by Awakened View Post

              Submit a support ticket. They will send you a link via e-mail to submit an additional support ticket asking for a reason for the refund request.
              I thought it was a 'no questions asked' money back guarantee?
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              • Profile picture of the author DukeNasty
                Thanks for the help guys. BTW, I was really miffed by the lack of direction with GCD in terms of the training. The training videos were not complete with respect to providing an end to end solution and were released much too slowly for a product that costs this much. My guess is that their strategy was to try to get people closer and closer to the 30 day refund window and hopefully have a good portion cross this threshold, but it seems a little bit like dirty pool to me. I also did not like the fact that the forum was policed so religiously. At any rate, it was a good learning experience (i.e. there is no magic bullet) and wish them the best. Of course, if I don't get me refund pretty quickly I may go ape$hit, but I have no reason to believe I won't be refunded accordingly.

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              • Profile picture of the author Awakened
                Originally Posted by AffiliateMax View Post

                I thought it was a 'no questions asked' money back guarantee?
                Yeah I that so too, but they do ask. I believe it was optional though
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        • Profile picture of the author 4runner
          Originally Posted by wealthwind View Post

          Thanks for good info! BTW, can they block website duplication tools like teleport?

          Alexander
          hmmm, haven't used teleport but if it's anything like some of the other site cloners (There was another WSO in here a while ago called "affiliate site quick" that could quickly copy pages), you can't technically prevent people from loading your site, viewing the source code, and then simply having their way with it - of course, this brings on all sorts of copyright infringement issues and I'm by no means a lawyer.

          now you can encrypt your html pages and things like that, but it makes it a pain to modify and google doesn't like pages like that if you're concerned with SEO.

          For others looking to refund - the process was quick and painless so they get props for that. Simply submit a request via their helpdesk
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      • Profile picture of the author mtucker
        4-runner, thanks for pointing out your experience about noticing that alot of successful campaigns had went away about a week after the launch of GCD and how they probably tweaked their script.
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        • Profile picture of the author 4runner
          Originally Posted by mtucker View Post

          4-runner, thanks for pointing out your experience about noticing that alot of successful campaigns had went away about a week after the launch of GCD and how they probably tweaked their script.
          no problem

          I'm thinking they will have to do a lot of tweaking on their end to mask and/or rotate their algorithm from being "detected". I've blocked all my campaigns from all the major server based spy tools and can verify by just going to those sites and looking for my own domains - they will NEVER show up. That's why PPC Kahuna is good since it runs on your own PC via proxy so there's no massive footprint being left when you check your server logs. Some will argue that running a program on your own PC isn't "as robust" and you can't monitor as much data and blah blah blah, but come on - 90% of the posts I read in these forums or on the membership forums are coming from COMPLETE NEWBIES that are asking questions that make me shake my head and think why the heck did you just drop 2k on a piece of software that you will barely even use 1% of? Unless you're rolling out 10 to 20 campaigns a WEEK and testing thousands of keywords, how many people are honestly cloning and running enough campaigns for that to even matter? I test 2 or 3 campaigns a week at the MOST and I have no problem with gathering data and market intelligence slowly - I'm not an Amit or Amish or Anik or Aymen... (wait a sec, to be uber successful in PPC, maybe you have to have a name that starts with A... no wonder!)

          Anyway, the norm with IM launches these days is quite frankly saddening - so many "newbies" are so desperate, they are shelling out 1k or 2k for a "course" and training when they could get the basic training by just reading a $20 book picked up at Chapters (ie, Perry's Definitive Guide) and ease their way in. Not slagging some of the courses out there as I have many and they are great, but my expectation and experience going INTO the course is waaaaay different. I'm not asking questions like - "I've just lost my job, I have no money, I am a complete newbie, but will this $997 tool or $1997 course help me 'turn the corner' and be successful online??!?!"... how many times have you read that in those launch blogs?

          My PPC experience has been, even if you DO find a profitable campaign, you still have to spend at least $300 to $400 minimum just to get a reasonable amount of REAL data to make a statistically significant decision as to what keywords to continue with and which to dump - more if you really want to get enough data from split testing your landing pages - because you ARE split testing your landing pages aren't you? With CPV (cost per view) to CPA offers, more like about $1,000 because the impressions and traffic can be massive and you need to test a LOT of keywords). There's no arguing that GCD is great for uncovering campaigns that have been running for a long time quickly - but big friggen deal! - it DOESN'T reveal the HISTORY behind those particular successful ads which is what allows them to run for that long in those positions and are likely running at 1/5th the displayed CPC. If you go and clone any of the ads in there (which most of you probably tried) using basically the same or the EXACT same ad, EXACT same directly linked landing page, EXACT same keyword, you probably failed miserably because you were paying close to the actual displayed click cost and you would have been running it AT A LOSS and wondering how they could be successful - then pulled the plug after you exhausted your campaign budget of $50.... or $100... or whatever... The guys that you were cloning have been running it for that long have already established a high CTR history so it is IMPOSSIBLE to beat them and outrank them - and if it has been successful for them do you think they're going to let some newbie come in and try and displace them? Nevermind the fact that the top guys are also geo-targeting, and ad scheduling as well - ever consider that? While you enter the market and bid $1.50 a click and kill your daily campaign budget within 3 hours at the beginning of the day, they can simply wait till you're gone and turn on their ad for the rest of the day and get the rest of the clicks at half the price - I've done it and it's fun to watch. Does anyone in the GCD training even mention the little fact that some of those campaigns could very well be targetting ONE city or ONE postal code? GCD doesn't reveal any of that info either. Sure, they can bid $5.00 a click and run for 120 days straight because they are only appearing for a specific location. I could have bid on a ton of super expensive keywords, but only set my campaign to appear in ONLY my own postal code - guess what - GCD will see my ad is indeed running at 100% for 120 days (albeit with very limited traffic and clickthru's which cost me very little) but Joe newbie comes along, looks at the ad and thinks - hey, this ad has been running for 120 days and it's an expensive keyword, so BINGO! I'm going to clone it and run it across Canada, US, UK, & Australia (or heaven forbit, all territories)... and ends up losing his/her shirt... d'oh....

          Think about it - how can you possibly outrank and go "head to head" with an advertiser who has been running their ad for 120 days solid at 100% appearance on a keyword which shows a $1.50+ Avg. CPC and simply COPY their Ad and direct link to the merchant and expect to beat them? The person you're cloning has been running the ad for 4 months and probably has a great CTR (although their quality score sucks since almost every direct linked campaign I analyzed with google goggles came up with poor quality scores even using a 10% CTR) so with Joe Newbie coming onto the scene and being "taught" to clone and copy their ad and direct link - with ZERO ad history, setting an ad budget of $30 a day AND paying full price on the CPC - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine they are likely doomed to failure. A good example using endurance sports - I've done the ironman triathlon the last couple years - if someone with little experience were to just watch me and see that I trained for X amount of days, saw what kind of shoes I wear, the bike I ride, where I run or ride, how often I run or ride, etc etc - do you think that they can just "copy" my training schedule from the last year and expect to finish? Although it's plainly open for everyone to see what I'm doing or have been doing the last while, unless you're my coach, you don't know what I've done for the past 5 years prior to this particular training schedule, what heart-rate zones I'm training at now, the pace i'm running, the wattage I'm training at on the bike, what aspects of my stroke and breathing I'm focussing on when I'm swimming, what my nutrition / recovery / sleep plan is, my periodization schedule, etc etc etc. All you know is, he swims this many laps, he runs this route everyday, he rides this many miles - if I just "copy that exactly" and follow him around, I can do Ironman... that's ASSININE....I think that applies here - just because you can SEE what someone has done or what they are openly doing - don't think there are a LOT of things happening behind the scenes that also have to be considered...

          Anyway, enough of my rant, but it just pains me when I read some of the pre-launch blogs and forum posts by so many people that have absolutely no clue as to what they are getting themselves into. I look forward to the day when a product or tool comes out that actually pre-qualifies people before they even allow them to purchase - because, clearly price alone is not screening at all these days. People seem to be willing to spend any amount to get the next shiny gadget and instantly fall for the marketing hype (read my post about X's "death of crap" on my ironmarketer.com blog - changed my attitude about everything)

          Sorry for the long post, but I hope this makes all of us really stop and think before purchasing the next "shiny widget".
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          • Profile picture of the author MoneyPlus
            ... that's ASSININE....I think that applies here - just because you can SEE what someone has done or what they are openly doing - don't think there are a LOT of things happening behind the scenes that also have to be considered...

            Anyway, enough of my rant, but it just pains me when I read some of the pre-launch blogs and forum posts by so many people that have absolutely no clue as to what they are getting themselves into...


            WOW...
            That is about the most honest and perceptive post I have read...EVER!

            Thank YOU.
            You just save me $1,997.00
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            • Profile picture of the author darksky
              NO WAY I'm going to be asking for a refund. GCD is way to effective.
              It flat out works! Now that's not to say there isn't a learning curve if
              you're new to PPC - because there is. BUT, if you track and use
              negative keywords with your campaigns, AND, aren't afraid to
              step outside of Clickbank -- oh my gosh, you won't believe what
              you can do with this!
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              • Profile picture of the author patlondon
                Originally Posted by darksky View Post

                NO WAY I'm going to be asking for a refund. GCD is way to effective.
                It flat out works! Now that's not to say there isn't a learning curve if
                you're new to PPC - because there is. BUT, if you track and use
                negative keywords with your campaigns, AND, aren't afraid to
                step outside of Clickbank -- oh my gosh, you won't believe what
                you can do with this!

                I'm glad you're getting your money's worth out of GCD. Really. You couldn't have been a total newbie, am I right..?

                I'm glad I stayed away however- I found it hard to swallow the promotional emails from Chris that said flat out..."this works 100% of the time in finding profitable campaigns!"

                Well maybe so...but for newbies...? Or rather the people who have been running the campaigns..the ones you're going to try and clone..? Yes...those would be profitable we could assume.

                And then all the issues with customer service and training..?

                No thank you, I'll stick to studying PPC at ppc Kahuna and keep that hard earned cash for the campaigns. The software there gathers same data but it takes time and some effort.
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                • Profile picture of the author Ziah691
                  I returned my GCD and so have lots of others in PPC Classroom. I have nothing good to say about this software at all. If you don't have $2-3k to start these campaigns....then forget using this software. GCD was the worst product ever...they charged me $2188 instead of $1997 although they did refund me. I don't know many people that are keeping it. The forums were so tightly locked down because they were afraid the negativity would lead to a mass exodus. I'm a PPC Classroom VIP member and new here....I thought I would put in my experience. It wasn't good at all. I wish those who do have it the best of luck.
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            • Profile picture of the author 4runner
              Originally Posted by MoneyPlus View Post

              ... that's ASSININE....I think that applies here - just because you can SEE what someone has done or what they are openly doing - don't think there are a LOT of things happening behind the scenes that also have to be considered...

              Anyway, enough of my rant, but it just pains me when I read some of the pre-launch blogs and forum posts by so many people that have absolutely no clue as to what they are getting themselves into...


              WOW...
              That is about the most honest and perceptive post I have read...EVER!

              Thank YOU.
              You just save me $1,997.00
              No problem moneyplus... Although it was kind of a negative post, the point I was trying to make was - the TOOL is not the answer - there's a LOT of other things going on and the way it is being marketed will lead MANY down the garden path. For those of us that know what is going on behind the dark curtain, it has it's use, but I would rather spend $2k on campaigns. After comparing the data I got from GCD, I could get the same market intelligence using the other (cheaper) tools I have.

              For those having good results, feel free to post - judging by the forum at GCD, nobody was able to post any real results that I saw before I refunded. Speaking of which, although I got an email from GCD support that the refund was processed back on April 8th, I just checked today and noticed it still hasn't been posted...

              keep your eye out on my blog and subscribe as I'll have some news in a couple weeks that I think this thread will find interesting re: competitive tools to GCD.
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      • Profile picture of the author rhj12345
        Originally Posted by 4-runner View Post

        Just refunded myself too. I use ppcbully & spyfu as well as ppc kahuna for essentially the same data and it's a helluva lot cheaper!

        Also, what most people probably don't realize is, MOST of the people that are profitable and running adwords campaigns (translation - the ones that you would bother spying on and cloning) probably know how to block access of GCD and most spytools to their sites/landing pages. I ran a series of tests during my "trial" of GCD and since I knew what to block via my .htaccess file, NONE of my campaigns were visible on GCD and I ran them for an entire month on common keywords (and made no money)

        In another words, people that you'd want to copy - you probably aren't going to find them anymore on a go-forward basis. This was easy to verify because when I first signed up, I found NUMEROUS "review style" generic domains direct linking to HUNDREDS of click bank products or CPA offers - ALL of them running for over 120 days or more with profitablity indexes of 12,000 or more (again, this is debatable). All of a sudden, within about a week of membership, all those campaigns showed the campaign wasn't running any longer according to GCD - but if I went and just googled it myself, sure enough the ad was there.

        What does this mean? Obviously, once these advertisers knew GCD was released and tons of us were going to be spying on their domains - it was VERY easy to block the GCD tracking algorithm and the top guys will be doing everything they can to avoid spytools from seeing what they are doing.

        If you simply google "block spy tools", you'll see tons of references on how to modify your .htaccess file and how to block spyfu, keywordspy, etc etc etc.

        of course, there's ways around that too, but that's a different discussion

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        • Profile picture of the author patlondon
          Just wondering if anyone has planned any lawsuits against Chris C. for the mountain of blatant lies about GC.

          I'm hoping that the other so called gurus who promoted the crap out of this will get an earful and lose half of their lists.

          Maybe these guys will actually *review* a product before jumping on the next bandwagon to rake in the cash on the backs of unsuspecting, trusting people next time around. Wonder how they sleep at night.



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  • Profile picture of the author Nancy Forman
    No, but I'd love to know more about that myself. Anxious to hear if you get a good response.

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  • Profile picture of the author alherd
    I tried Google Cash Detective with about 30 campaigns following the training videos step-by-step.
    No results. Not even one sale.
    Each campaign got more than 100 clicks. Some campaigns got more clicks than others.
    Bottom line was that it costed me a whole lot of $$

    For those of you familiar with GCD, the GCD profitability score was 3,000+ (which is good), keyword search volume of several thousand per month (each keyword).

    I got good ad placement (on first page) and used cloneable campaigns. Meaning I used the same exact landing pages.

    I placed another 10 campaigns wednesday morning.
    This time, for testing, I cloned the landing pages and hosted them on my own domain. So far, same story; clicks and no sales so far.

    After all this work, I'm sorry to say that I got nothing from it.
    Wish I could report better news, but I needed to get this off my chest.

    If my results change. If I make any $$$ with this, I'll be sure to update my post to let everyone know.
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    • Profile picture of the author Avidpoet
      Requested a refund this past Sunday and got my monies Tuesday. It didnt work out for me as well. The offered to extend my refund period for 30 more days but at that point I already had my mind made us. Get this though! Someone recommended Perry Marshalls (Definitive Guide To Google Adwords) book and Ive learned so much half way through the book than I did with GCD2 or Pay Per Click Classroom 2 (way to many upsells and promotions of other peoples stuff from Anik) which I also left. If you really want to learn it (newbies like myself) go back to basics. Pick up Perry Marshalls book alot of Gurus read that same book when they first started out.
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      • Profile picture of the author mikeperriss
        I admit I'm a newbie to all this, but the only reason I signed up in the first place was because of the training. Ok, so I was naive, but who isn't when it come to the first time of anything, but I have to agree with earleir posts made, that's there's just been too much pitching of other people's products, so now I have to ask myself, do these guys really make the kind of money claimed from adwordks, or is their sole income just from pitching other people's products to their lists, cos if this is the case, then the adwords training is out the window lol
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    • Profile picture of the author mtucker
      alherd, thanks for sharing your experience with GCD. After reading your post and a couple of others, I just sent a support ticket in for a refund for my GCD. I can surely find some resources here in the Warriors Forum and receive better mentoring than I was recieving with GCD.
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      • Profile picture of the author mido
        Originally Posted by mtucker View Post

        alherd, thanks for sharing your experience with GCD. After reading your post and a couple of others, I just sent a support ticket in for a refund for my GCD. I can surely find some resources here in the Warriors Forum and receive better mentoring than I was receiving with GCD.
        I'm waiting for Refund for 12 days already and nothing. Called the bank today.
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        • Profile picture of the author themarketingdirt
          Originally Posted by mido View Post

          I'm waiting for Refund for 12 days already and nothing. Called the bank today.
          I asked for a refund too... and they said they've processed it. Hopefully this is true.

          Like someone else already said, I tried cloning a 'successfully' campaign and fell flat on my face. Lesson learned, if something sounds too good to be true it probably is... I'm sure a lot of newbies got burnt too, because when I last checked out the forum, there wasn't a single post from a newbie who actually had positive results...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Francis
    google cash detecctive rocks and should be out by this year
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    • Profile picture of the author 4runner
      Originally Posted by darknighthatter View Post

      google cash detecctive rocks and should be out by this year
      huh?

      by "out" - my interpretation is it will indeed be "out" of satisfied paying members.

      I think the tool has it's place for guys/gals that want to test dozens of campaigns at a time rapidly and have a big budget and an adwords account that allows way more than the standard amount of ad groups and keywords. It DOES allow you to find markets and associated products very quickly, but you still have to do the work once you find those products/markets - it definitely isn't the magic bullet and it's unfortunate that the GCD marketing was SO good, I think many people that purchased it were given the false impression it would make PPC easy. It isn't!! Even the top PPC guys are finding it more and more difficult and they have budgets in the 10s of thousands a DAY - so they have the luxury of being able to fail a lot more and test a lot more than us mere mortals...

      Its like any other enterprise solution, in the hands of a newbie, it's useless - but in the hands of people that need that level of horsepower - it is just another TOOL - it is not necessarily the be all, end all solution.

      Happy Easter...
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by darknighthatter View Post

      google cash detecctive rocks and should be out by this year
      You're just a little bit off-the-pace my son.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick.A
    @4-runner:

    Man, that's one hell of a rant... but right on the button!

    Now, regarding the use of .htaccess to block PPC spy tools. How sure are you that these tools will discard an ad and its keywords just because they can't access the landing page? Unless they capture and store the landing page, like GCD, why would they bother to check it out?
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    • Profile picture of the author 4runner
      Originally Posted by Nick.A View Post

      @4-runner:

      Man, that's one hell of a rant... but right on the button!

      Now, regarding the use of .htaccess to block PPC spy tools. How sure are you that these tools will discard an ad and its keywords just because they can't access the landing page? Unless they capture and store the landing page, like GCD, why would they bother to check it out?
      Hey Nick

      Lol, I know - I apologize to everyone for that

      Based on my own experience - when launching a new campaign on a particular domain and ensuring all my "blocking" is in place, I have yet to see my ads revealed with the common spy tools - but they key factor is - I don't direct link. All my campaigns have been to my own pages (review or squeeze or just plain old home page to my own storefront.) This isn't to say that it's 100% bomb-proof but that's been my experience. If you are direct linking to the merchant, you're probably out of luck since you have no ability to "block" what you're doing.

      I just ran one of my domains thru keyword spy and it doesn't show any data whatsoever. However one of my other domains DOES show up with the data from 2 years ago because I never implemented any "blocking" (and it still shows up even though I've never run it again for almmost 2 years). So it is clear that keywordspy needs to see your landing page since it does some pretty extensive analysis of your domain including organic rankings, "time machine" function, etc etc - so if it can't crawl your domain - it obviously can't give any of this data.

      Here's some data from keywordspy right off their home page which everyone can access.

      The Super Affiliates Chart shows the top performing affiliates at ClickBank based on the number of keywords they use and based on the number of products they actively promote.

      1. appc3 37,660
      2. bottom 27,425
      3. mboudet 22,112
      4. goog3 14,989
      5. king80 10,759
      6. purchase01 9,833
      7. vvllc2 7,643
      8. congoman 6,878
      9. 91862 6,747
      10. vvllc6 5,910

      As an experiment for yourself, anyone that has an active GCD account - do a URL query on a few of these to compare GCD's results with keywordspy's. You may find that GCD now reports a totally different number of keywords or many of the campaigns "stopped appearing" a couple weeks ago. I do remember checking out most of these guys campaigns and couldn't figure out how they could be profitable if they were direct linking - many of them have their own review pages so I don't dispute the fact they are making it work (somehow), but even their landing pages are showing up with quality scores that are poor according to google goggles.

      Then again, with super long history, they could be paying .04 a click whereas everyone else is paying .50 and google goggles isn't totally accurate, but even with a good history in my own account, using the same exact keywords directly linked to THEIR review landing page as an experiment - I got quality scores less than 5, in many cases 3. If I linked to my own landing page, that could increase to 7 or 8 instantly with proper formatting. Going direct to clickbank was basically suicide.

      It's interesting to compare the results between the two and if you check out what these dudes are promoting by direct linking - I think you'll be scratching your head wondering how the heck they are profitable too...
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnDow
        Guys,

        IF the system works, I hardly doubt it, it is VERY easy for CC & Co. to filter the gold nuggets for their own personal use easily. Since they run out of inspiration to feed their system with keywords, they let us pay 2K to help them. *LOL* The data they show to us is so to say very "biased".
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        • Profile picture of the author Nick.A
          Originally Posted by JohnDow View Post

          Guys,

          IF the system works, I hardly doubt it, it is VERY easy for CC & Co. to filter the gold nuggets for their own personal use easily. Since they run out of inspiration to feed their system with keywords, they let us pay 2K to help them. *LOL* The data they show to us is so to say very "biased".
          Hi John,

          This could be true of any system that uses a central database that is owned, accessed and maintained by the system owner or their employees. I guess if you subscribe to a tool such as GCD, you are trusting that the owners will play fair. And, of course, all users of the system have access to the same data so there is no chance of discovering something unique -- if you've discovered a gold nugget, it's there for all other users to discover too.

          And yes, you are helping them build up their database that might, one day, be sold off for a huge pile of cash. But, on the flip side, if the tool works and makes you a pile of cash too, so what? You're "scratching each other's back", so to speak.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick.A
    @4-runner:

    No need to apologize, 4-runner, you're providing some great information here. Personally, I would like to thank you for sharing the knowledge you have gained from your testing.
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    • Profile picture of the author 4runner
      Originally Posted by Nick.A View Post

      @4-runner:

      No need to apologize, 4-runner, you're providing some great information here. Personally, I would like to thank you for sharing the knowledge you have gained from your testing.
      My pleasure Nick. I have refrained for a couple years from posting anything and have spent the majority of my time lurking - but now it's just becoming too much when seeing so many people getting led down the garden path...

      always happy to share my experiences - good orbad.

      cheers all
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
    Banned
    They've reopened the stupid thing -
    Great news!

    A few new memberships are available for the Google Cash Detective!

    As you know, we launched this incredible software and interactive
    training system just over a month ago, yet despite the demand, we
    closed the doors in order to keep our membership exclusive and to
    maximize the value to our members.

    Today, I have re-posted our launch blog so you can see all the videos
    that led up to the launch while we open the doors again for just a
    handful of new members.

    If you want to quickly get up to speed with the latest techniques
    and the most powerful software in the industry, have a quick look
    because these spots won't last long
    Caveat Emptor.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
    Banned
    BTW my Adwords a/c was HACKED last night. Serious. Just waiting to hear back from Adwords - and isn't their Support a joke. Couldn't sleep last night so jumped back on the Mac and to my horror some a'hole had got in and added a €2000 a day campaign (cheap air tickets site) at €1.90 a bid. Has already cost me €220 and Adwords have shut down my a/c. Great. I suspect it has something to do with the open source TOR poxy proxy I've been running as a trial - writing a LP for a client who has a Proxy Server called "Identity Cloaker". This happened to anyone else?
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  • Profile picture of the author practknowl
    I signed up for Google Cash Detective - but used the 30-days Money Back Guarantee - as it doesn't support well German keywords - that I would need more.

    But all the functions work - like Google Cash Automator, Adding my own keywords - that then get's scanned for Google Ads and Keywordsearchings etc.

    Just to mention positively: they refunded the Money very fast, without further questions, as promised!

    Othmar
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  • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
    Reading between the lines, the only reason they have re opened it is to fill all the spots left by the refunders !!!!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Philipc
    Hmmm....cancelled within the 30 days. CC shows no refund as of yet.... anyone else in the same boat?
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    How many people have requested a refund and haven't received it yet?
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    • Profile picture of the author themarketingdirt
      Originally Posted by Yusuf View Post

      How many people have requested a refund and haven't received it yet?
      A quick reply. I asked for a refund and waited 10 days, and it wasn't processed even though the Google Cash Detective support team assured it was. I called my bank and confirmed that NO Refund was issued.

      So I just submitted another Ticket to ask for the refund, and to warn them if I do not see my refund processed in my internet Banking account on Monday, I will ask my bank to issue them a charge back. Will post updates on how it goes.

      But one thing for sure, I won't be buying Chris Carpenter again. I felt that he really over hyped his product this time, and now he's suffering the backslash for over promising and under delivering. Once trust is broken, it's pretty much gone for good.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nathan Hangen
        So is direct linking via masked URL's still working after April1?
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        • Profile picture of the author kalynna
          Originally Posted by Nathan Hangen View Post

          So is direct linking via masked URL's still working after April1?
          I'd like to know the answer to this too.
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  • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
    Wow - I hope you guys get your refunds soon. That's not a small sum of money to be waiting on. I received my refund fairly quickly but requested it about 3 weeks ago I think. I also left PPC classroom as well and have removed myself from their lists.

    Just as an aside, right or wrong, this is how I've been signing up for any "recurring" accounts. I have either an "extra" checking account that doesn't have much money in it or a Paypal account, also never very full and use the debit cards for either of those to sign up. Then, I have the credit card protection there but can also pull the money out of either of those accounts easily if I need to cancel something and the other party won't cooperate. I'm not a flaky chronic canceller at all but I dont' want anyone having access to my main personal checking or business accounts either. Paypal also has the cancellation feature built in for recurring charges... I've recently learned that also.

    I'm still a newbie here and I hear of waay too many people getting snookered in IM. I've found WF to be a great place to prevent that from happening... too often.
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    • Profile picture of the author patlondon
      Yea Trish- I think really long and hard before subscribing to any monthly deal unless it's with Paypal. They're not perfect by any means but that extra level of protection is a big relief!
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  • Profile picture of the author BigG95
    Requested a refund, still waiting, I couldn't take it anymore, can get the same input from free sources
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  • Profile picture of the author kckaz
    Wow. I passed on this launch and came back to see the comments. Not too pretty. Then again, maybe only the complainers are posting and the ones having success are prudently staying quiet about it.
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    • Profile picture of the author probizlink
      I have not had ANY problems with GCD or Chris. I love the software. The many sources of training has been tops. If you get another chance you might want to try it. I think Chris just opened it up again. I do not spend as much time here because I now use my time learning new ways to use GCD.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
    Banned
    I feel sorry for the people who asked for
    a refund straight away, because they will never get back in - at any
    price. (Just for the record, the refund rate has been extremely low)

    New Questions (Jonathon Paul) from GoogleCashDefective back on 14/3.
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    • Profile picture of the author 4runner
      Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

      New Questions (Jonathon Paul) from GoogleCashDefective back on 14/3.
      heheh... I guess "low refund rate" is a relative term in their eyes - just like their profitability index was I wonder if people using GCD realize that maybe a lot of the keywords displayed by GCD could actually be CONTENT network keywords and not necessarily just search network keywords...

      interesting that isn't mentioned anywhere... at least not that I could see... kind of a big thing to point out isn't it? Especially to all the "newbies" in there...
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  • Profile picture of the author toolleather
    I also asked for a refund of GCD and they were trying to give me the runaround. It was supposedly processed on 17 Apr, but I still haven't seen anything credited to my account yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author rashamba
    I just want to say that I did ask for a refund and it processed next day. I do not think they are wanting negative publicity or bad reports to credit card companies. The only way I see this product as effective is if you are a high level marketer wanting to research competitors in a market you are going to build your own product for.
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    • Profile picture of the author saffillo
      I also tested out GCD quite extensively, but it wasn't giving me any positive results. For that amount of money, I would rather spend it on testing campaigns if I'm not getting the great results as mentioned on the sales page.

      I asked for a refund on April 11th and it was processed on the 12th. However, when I checked my credit card statement to confirm if the fund was indeed refunded, it wasn't. I waited a few days thinking it might take a few days to process... and now almost 11 days later... nothing has been refunded yet. I submitted a new ticket after the 4th day and have yet to hear from anyone. I also tried calling, so I can speak to someone, but it always directs me to a voicemail (!?!?) This is the first time I'm getting this kind of problem with customer service and I must say I'm not impressed at all.

      Please keep us updated if anyone gets a refund back. Lesson learned...
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      • Profile picture of the author jack101
        I don't think there should be a worry about refunds. They're not absolutely stupid. They have created a small fortune even if there is a 50% refund rate. And not making refunds within the 30 days would bring the house down. My refund took about 7 or 8 days. But then there was a time zone difference, and it had to go through their billing dept, my credit card company and my bank. And there were 2 week-ends. I'd suggest not getting too nervous until someone reports a refusal of a refund request made within the 30 days. And so far there has been none reported here.
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  • Profile picture of the author wyoming
    I asked for a refund on April 9th. GCD responded (I jumped through the hoops) and GCD confirmed refund on April 13th and said payment would be in 3-5 business days. The refund has not hit the account as of April 23. In the meantime, support has been responsive but the answer is "your refund has been processed".

    I am new to IM and greatly appreciate the Warrior Forum. The product was highly promoted under the concepts of 'direct linking works' and 'GCD is the ultimate tool for direct marketing success'. I followed the training, program, research and strategy in GCD for direct linking using exact copies of ads, campaigns and keywords designated as highly profitable by GCD. Although the process was a good learning experience on basics, I had no success with direct linking. In the GCD forums, zero success seemed to be the norm. I personally refunded because the product did not perform as advertised. For the price, it should.

    Overall, I agree with 4-runner's comments as to the reasons that the direct linking concept did not work as advertised. I would also add that the initial launch was problem after problem and created no confidence in the product.
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    • Profile picture of the author DukeNasty
      Wyoming,

      Don't feel bad. After multiple requests, I finally got an answer from GCD on April 15th, stating that my refund had been processed, refunded to the credit card I used and should post within 3-5 business days. Of course, as of today there was still no refund so I logged back onto GCD and sent another "Urgent Refund Request" support ticket. This is the response I received:

      Thank you for your email.

      After receiving emails from our customers regarding their
      refunds. We have found a glitch in the refund process that has caused a delay in the communication between our end and your credit card company. We are working to resolve this issue and will be getting your refund credited to your account as quick as possible.

      We appreciate your patience and apologize for the inconvenience.

      Best
      Paige
      Customer Support

      My question is this. I can only imagine that there must be tons of bank issued credit cards used so how in the heck could they have problems with the bank. It sounds like the problem is on their end...not with the banks. Obviously they knew this was a problem (the refund process), but my guess is that they do not communicate with the customer unless you proactively communicate with them. Or in other words, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. I have been pretty disappointed in my GCD experience (horrible launch, couldn't log in to the forum for a week, policed posts on the forum, etc.) and now it is even a simple process to get your money back...even though you were supposed to be covered under a money back guarantee. We will see how this pans out, but I am pretty disgusted by the fact that they did not give a time frame for resolution in the email they sent.

      E.
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      • Profile picture of the author tres-echeverria
        Hey DukeNasty,

        I was searching on Google for others who have had trouble with GCD / Chris Carpenter, products and refunds, and needed to post my experiences here as well, from a customer's point-of-view as well.

        Sorry my first post needs to be negative, but people should know what to expect from GCD, Chris Carpenter.

        DukeNasty, unfortunately I'm in the same boat as you. I was told 2 weeks ago that my refund was being processed.

        I called my credit card company today and they said no credit was ever issued.

        When I contacted GCD support, they sent me the same canned response that you got;
        Hi,

        Thank you for your email. After receiving emails from our customers regarding their refunds.We have found a glitch in the refund process that has caused a delay in the communication between our end and your credit card company. We are working to resolve this issue and will be getting your refund credited to your account as quick as possible. We appreciate your patience and apologize for the inconvenience.

        Best
        Kala
        Why did they wait 2 weeks to tell me this?? They have my email address.
        My guess is that they're stalling and/or planning to NOT issue the refund.

        Needless to say, their explanation is a bold-faced lie and a horrible attempt to insult the intelligence of their customers.


        Any merchant who accepts credit card knows very well that they do not deal directly with their customer's credit card issuing bank. NO! It's the merchant's Card Processing Service that deals with the credit card banks. The merchant's Card Processing Service processes both refunds and credits, then sends them in batches to the credit card companies.

        I find it extremely-hard-to-believe that their Card Processing Service has a "communication issue" with refunds.

        Of course, as any scam would have it, there were no "communication issues" when it came to CHARGING all their customers k/n/a "victims".
        It's anyone's guess how many millions they profited from this operation.

        This is starting to feel like a genuine rip-off. It's a true shame that Chris Carpenter and Company have decided to take the low-low road here.

        Once thing for sure is that I will never buy anything from Chris Carpenter again or from any other "Guru" who finds it OK to ever promote any of Chris Carpenter's crap. I hope the others on this forum experiencing the same trouble can step up and do the same, so that the so-called Gurus will think long-and-hard about pushing and praising a bad product the next time around.

        Regarding the refund problems, if anyone else is getting the same run-around with their refund from Chris Carpenter, please post here.

        Even though the charges came from a Mequon, Wisconsin company, Chris Carpenter supposedly lives in Mexico. I'm sure the Mexican Federales would be very interested to hear about this situation involving transactions potentially in the millions of US dollars. You don't want to mess with those guys. For those interested see, mexicomapxl[dot]com/society-and-culture/police[dot]html . If someone knows the official URL, please let me know.

        P.S. My advice to anyone even thinking about buying or even trying Google Cash Detective; Stay Away and save yourself the wasted time and the frustration of using an overly-hyped product that DOES NOT WORK as advertised.

        PPS. If anything should change, ie; I get my money back, I will update my post.
        Good Luck to all.
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  • Profile picture of the author mido
    It has been 23 days since I requested Refund.
    They say it was processed and No refund received after more than 3 weeks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Has anyone requested a chargeback yet?
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    • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
      Originally Posted by Yusuf View Post

      Has anyone requested a chargeback yet?
      Yusuf
      I sensed there would come a point when the rush of refunds would create some back pedalling from GCD. It seems that this is happening as we speak.

      I went for and received a refund almost a month ago because I felt GCD wasn't delivering as promised. I actually said in my refund request to refund me without asking why I wanted a refund and also said that if it wasn't actioned within 48 hours that I'd be seeking a charge back. They delivered.

      I am in the process of unsubscribing from all the lists of the "Gurus" that promoted GCD too.

      One that I was particularly "p**s*d with was Amit at PPC Classroom 2.0 which I had joined as well and have since unsubscribed. Perhaps if enough of us refuse to jump on these overhyped launches in the future we may get some ethical conduct back in this business.

      One good example of ethics in IM is Gauher Chaudrey. I'll support him anytime.

      I hope you guys asking for refunds get them.
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      • Profile picture of the author Avidpoet
        Originally Posted by Purplemagic View Post

        Yusuf
        I sensed there would come a point when the rush of refunds would create some back pedalling from GCD. It seems that this is happening as we speak.

        I went for and received a refund almost a month ago because I felt GCD wasn't delivering as promised. I actually said in my refund request to refund me without asking why I wanted a refund and also said that if it wasn't actioned within 48 hours that I'd be seeking a charge back. They delivered.

        I am in the process of unsubscribing from all the lists of the "Gurus" that promoted GCD too.

        One that I was particularly "p**s*d with was Amit at PPC Classroom 2.0 which I had joined as well and have since unsubscribed. Perhaps if enough of us refuse to jump on these overhyped launches in the future we may get some ethical conduct back in this business.

        One good example of ethics in IM is Gauher Chaudrey. I'll support him anytime.

        I hope you guys asking for refunds get them.

        Amit is the reason I cancelled PPC 1 and PPC 2. Hey may be a good teacher but one never knows if he constantly promotes other products. Even if they are in competition with his own brand. Run dont walk.
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      • Profile picture of the author 4runner
        Originally Posted by Purplemagic View Post

        Yusuf
        I sensed there would come a point when the rush of refunds would create some back pedalling from GCD. It seems that this is happening as we speak.

        I went for and received a refund almost a month ago because I felt GCD wasn't delivering as promised. I actually said in my refund request to refund me without asking why I wanted a refund and also said that if it wasn't actioned within 48 hours that I'd be seeking a charge back. They delivered.

        I am in the process of unsubscribing from all the lists of the "Gurus" that promoted GCD too.

        One that I was particularly "p**s*d with was Amit at PPC Classroom 2.0 which I had joined as well and have since unsubscribed. Perhaps if enough of us refuse to jump on these overhyped launches in the future we may get some ethical conduct back in this business.

        One good example of ethics in IM is Gauher Chaudrey. I'll support him anytime.

        I hope you guys asking for refunds get them.
        I still haven't received my refund either from April 8th after the canned response. The irony is, I sent another email telling support how displeased I was with their lack of response and they sent me the SAME CANNED EMAIL AGAIN!! (the one everyone else got about the "glitch" with their payment system) what a crock.

        I totally agree with purplemagic about Gauher being a total stand-up guy. Others are Andrew Hansen, John Barker, Marc Lindsay and Daniel Turner from PLR Pro, Michelle MacPhearson, Keith Baxter, Perry Marshall to name a few others... (and I'm sure there's others, but I just didn't happen to buy their stuff Scary thing is, I've bought a lot of crap over the years, and my inbox used to be filled with pitch after pitch after pitch... but now I'm so much more productive (and profitable) just staying the course and "killing the noise".
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  • Profile picture of the author ludak
    Hmmm interesting
    Someone say that GCD work someone that not?????

    What is the true??????
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  • Profile picture of the author RKWebster
    So how is it going? Is anyone making money with GCD??
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    • Profile picture of the author alherd
      By all means, stay away from Google Cash Detective! I ran 50 campaigns following Chris Carpenter's step-by-step videos.
      Not even a single campaign made money. Most didn't even make a single sale.
      The product is terrible, the training is terrible, the support is terrible.
      To top it all off, I requested a refund 10 days ago and have received nothing. No one even replies to emails asking about refunds.
      My next step on monday is to file a chargeback and to file a complant with the Wisconsin Attorney General.
      Chris Carpenter is a fraud.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Ok so the following have requested a refund within the 30 days and have not received it yet even after their accounts were canceled and their refund was confirmed:

    alherd, mido, themarketingdirt, Philipc, BigG95, toolleather, saffillo, wyoming, DukeNasty, tres-echeverria

    Is this right? I wonder how many more there are which just don't happen to be here on WF.
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    • Profile picture of the author alherd
      Originally Posted by Yusuf View Post

      Ok so the following have requested a refund within the 30 days and have not received it yet even after their accounts were canceled and their refund was confirmed:

      alherd, mido, themarketingdirt, Philipc, BigG95, toolleather, saffillo, wyoming, DukeNasty, tres-echeverria

      Is this right? I wonder how many more there are which just don't happen to be here on WF.

      Hi YUSUF, Confirmed. That is correct. Cancelled within the cancellation period. So far no refund has been issued. No response from Chris Caprenter/GCD except for the canned messages already posted by the many others who have been ripped off here.
      There must be hundreds more in the same boat who don't know about Warriorforum.
      Chris Carpenter's charges came from Mequon, Wisconsin (a suburb of Milwaukee)
      Im located in Chicago and I know that The Wisconsin Attorney General is very good about following through on allegations of fraud.
      We can also file with the Ozaukee County, WI Attorney General, if necessary.

      There was also a suggestion from tres-echeverria about getting in touch with the Mexican Federal Authorities (does Chris Carpenter actually live in Mexico with his family, or is this part of his deception/fraud?).
      Bottom line is that we need to put the heat on frauds like this, or we can kiss our money good-bye and let the Chris Carpenter types come and back rip more people off. He has no right to our hard-earned money, and has no right to spend it, or enjoy it, or share it with the "Guru" fraudsters who pushed his products right along-side him.

      Everyone: Keep your paperwork; emails, credit card receipts, screenshots of the GCD support screen, etc...
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    • Profile picture of the author 4runner
      Originally Posted by Yusuf View Post

      Ok so the following have requested a refund within the 30 days and have not received it yet even after their accounts were canceled and their refund was confirmed:

      alherd, mido, themarketingdirt, Philipc, BigG95, toolleather, saffillo, wyoming, DukeNasty, tres-echeverria

      Is this right? I wonder how many more there are which just don't happen to be here on WF.
      I'm sure there's a WHOLE LOT MORE that have cancelled.
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      • Profile picture of the author themarketingdirt
        Originally Posted by 4-runner View Post

        I'm sure there's a WHOLE LOT MORE that have cancelled.
        Hi Guys, I finally got my GCD refund today after sending 10 tickets, 2 emails, and calling my bank twice and waiting for 17 days. I'm just glad the case is closed and I got my money back without filing for a chargeback. From this incident I've learn 2 important things.

        1. If I ever buy a big ticket IM product again, I'll make sure I buy through Paypal.

        2. There's no such thing as a Magic Bullet. If something sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't.

        If you can spend weeks following a particular IM product launch and shelving out 2k buying the next big thing, you might as well spend more time and money launching, testing and tweaking your own PPC campaigns.
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        • Profile picture of the author 4runner
          Originally Posted by themarketingdirt View Post

          Hi Guys, I finally got my GCD refund today after sending 10 tickets, 2 emails, and calling my bank twice and waiting for 17 days. I'm just glad the case is closed and I got my money back without filing for a chargeback. From this incident I've learn 2 important things.

          1. If I ever buy a big ticket IM product again, I'll make sure I buy through Paypal.

          2. There's no such thing as a Magic Bullet. If something sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't.

          If you can spend weeks following a particular IM product launch and shelving out 2k buying the next big thing, you might as well spend more time and money launching, testing and tweaking your own PPC campaigns.
          My refund DID show up this morning in my account - I only sent 2 messages to support since my original request on Apr.8th and both replies came back with the same form-letter that most of us received about the glitch.

          Celleek brings up a good point about the merchant account possibilities, but it looks like they were at least able to process refunds as of today so this is a good sign for those that are waiting in the queue.

          Yusuf, you're absolutely right - big IM launches are ridiculous - one day a Guru is giving his "best bonus ever" and then the next day he's right on the next laundh with his next "even more bestest bonus ever"... and again and again... Just got more "spitch" mail from PPC classroom (SPAM + PITCH = SPITCH - you heard the term here first by me about Mark Ling's Affiloblueprint re-launch. Mark has got some great stuff but since he's offering some great affiliate bonuses, expect the onslaught from the rest of the "spitchers". To note, Chris Carpenter is on the top leaderboard for Mark's launch!

          Moral of the day, all of us should be praising what a great forum this is and advising your lists that before they buy ANYTHING, turn to the cumulative wisdom that is found within this forum.

          Have a great week everyone and hope you get your GCD refunds processed without too much (more) delay

          T.
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          • Profile picture of the author jack101
            Any reasonably priced alternatives to GCD that work?
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  • Profile picture of the author saffillo
    I submitted a new ticket 2 days ago and I received the same generic email as the others have had along with another email titled "Google Cash Refund Notification".

    "This is to let you know that your refund for the Google Cash Detective or Google Cash Automator has been processed.

    Your credit card ending in *** has been credited a total of $**.00.

    Please note that it normally takes between 3 to 5 business days to see it on your account. Thank you,Amy, Google Cash Support Team"

    I will wait 5 more days and see if I have to call for a charge back.
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  • Profile picture of the author mido
    That's what GCD sent:

    "After receiving emails from our customers regarding their refunds. We have found a glitch in the refund process that has caused a delay in the communication between our end and your credit card company.

    The glitch seems to fixed and your refund should be showing in your account in 3-4 business days."
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    • Profile picture of the author Vincent Moore
      Originally Posted by mido View Post

      That's what GCD sent:

      "After receiving emails from our customers regarding their refunds. We have found a glitch in the refund process that has caused a delay in the communication between our end and your credit card company.

      The glitch seems to fixed and your refund should be showing in your account in 3-4 business days."
      I had not received my refund within the initial 5 workday period either. When I sent a support ticket, I got the same information that you provided above. 3 business days later, the refund showed up in my account.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    I'm happy you got your refund. Everyone else keep us updated please.

    As far as I know it's safe to buy IM products through ClickBank as well. Does anyone know of any refund horror story with them?

    Another thing you can add that I've learned personally:

    3. Do a simple Google search before buying. After problems started showing up early on, I did a search and found people complaining about GCD1 a few years ago. In post 584 of this thread I said: "GCD 1 was a bomb as well. Read this and this.. it's funny cause people are saying nearly the exact same thing this time around."

    You may also be able to add:

    4. Don't trust any products promoted on the lists. GCD2 gave out huge generous affiliate commissions and so everyone was promoting it to get their huge chunk. Of course none of those people are helping with everything once they got their commissions and JV gifts.
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  • Profile picture of the author webguycanada
    How does KeywordSpy compare with GCD?
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      • Profile picture of the author cms418
        I got a refund. The data that is dosplayed was not correct in GCD. I bid on 200 words that were said to cost $.05 and all of the words costed $2.00 or more when taken to ad words.

        On top of all of this I used affiliatre prophet to direct fitch my merchants landing pages and everybody BEWARE I was charged with PHISHING and my account was suspended with hostgator.

        BE CAREFUL IF YOU ARE DIRECT LINKING THIS WAY!
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          • Profile picture of the author cms418
            Originally Posted by celleek View Post

            You bid on 200 keywords that said the cost was .05 per click, yet you paid $2.00 per click? That sounds more like a Google slap than anything else and would have nothing to do with GCD. You can blame GCD for a lot of things, but you can't blame them for getting Google slapped.

            And since you brought up Affiliate Prophet -- it sounds even more like the product/domain you were promoting is TROUBLE. Google probably hates that domain, hence you got slapped by Google right away PLUS you got charged with Phishing. AP doesn't phish -- but if the domain it's fetching does phish, then your domain (in essence) is phishing too. Many people use AP on hostgator and have no problem at all.
            That one caught by PHISHING was not the same as the one that GCD provided incorret data. I know that I have not been slapped. I have a landing page, built on wordpress and keyword focused.
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            • Profile picture of the author cms418
              This is what was said to me. Keep in mind that I have many sites with AP but this one was caught because somebody complained.

              Here is what was siad;

              Keep in mind I have many sites with AP that have not been reported yet and I am only letting you guys know because I feel like I can contribute and keep other people from feeling angry like me.

              Here it is:

              Hello, We have received complaints of a phishing site being hosted on your site as referenced above. Upon inspection, we found that a phishing site had been installed on your account. The vast majority of phishing sites are installed by malicious users who have found exploits in scripts previously (and legitimately) installed on the account. However, since this account seems to have been created with the sole purpose of phishing, it has been suspended and is not eligible for reactivation.
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  • Profile picture of the author DukeNasty
    Glad to see people are getting their refunds. The last message I received from GCD was last Thursday stating "the file was uploaded" (presumably the refund information) and that we should receive refunds within 3-5 business days. Still seems shady to me, but we will have to wait and see if this finally resolves the issue.

    E.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Did anyone get their refund yet?

    I finally got mine... the date shows the 27th though I just saw it in my account today.

    What a relief.
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  • Profile picture of the author inman
    GCD used to be good back in 2007. It is surprising to see their downfall.
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  • Profile picture of the author DukeNasty
    I finally received my refund yesterday. It shouldn't have been that difficult to get a refund, but at least they finally came through.

    E.
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  • Profile picture of the author sjchiz
    My refund showed up on my CC today and it took about 2 weeks from the time I canceled my membership.
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  • Profile picture of the author mido
    I didn't get mine. It has been 29 days already.
    It has been one week since they "discovered glitch" and still nothing.
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    • Profile picture of the author sjchiz
      Originally Posted by mido View Post

      I didn't get mine. It has been 29 days already.
      It has been one week since they "discovered glitch" and still nothing.
      Mark/Mido,

      Send them a reply email from the email you got from them to confirm your cancellation inquiring if your refund has been processed yet. Thats what I did and my funds mysteriously showed up 3 days later.
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      • Profile picture of the author saffillo
        After my last email from them on Friday stating that my refund has been processed and it'll take 3-5 business days to show up, I finally got my refund credited today on my cc.

        Just send them a ticket and ask for a status of your refund. I'm sure you will get your refund, as we're all slowly seeing one show up everyday now. Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Reno Valentine
    wasn't GCD a total bust back in the day?
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  • Profile picture of the author iphonecashmachine
    Heres another idea

    Why not just buy a premium domain - for about 4- 10k
    Then use gcd or whatever other tool you have out there to find out what works and what doesnt.
    Then use that and start shipping goods from your garage. Easy as pie and you make more money and dont have to deal with networks and their scrubbing..
    cheers.
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  • Profile picture of the author alherd
    After weeks of trying, I finally got my refund today. It took a credit card chargeback inquiry to make it happen. There's no good reason for customers to have to do this just to get their money back.
    Shameful practices by a shoddy company.
    If anyone is still waiting for their refund, it seems like a chargeback is the best way to speed up the process.

    I have bought a lot of IM products over the years. The Chris Carpenter, Google Cash Detective is by far the WORST one ever, and the most expensive at $2,000.
    The campaigns found by the software were money losers. The keywords that GCD said were "profitable" were the most expensive and did not convert.

    What a nightmare. Glad it's over.
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    • Profile picture of the author patlondon
      Originally Posted by alherd View Post

      After weeks of trying, I finally got my refund today. It took a credit card chargeback inquiry to make it happen. There's no good reason for customers to have to do this just to get their money back.
      Shameful practices by a shoddy company.
      If anyone is still waiting for their refund, it seems like a chargeback is the best way to speed up the process.

      I have bought a lot of IM products over the years. The Chris Carpenter, Google Cash Detective is by far the WORST one ever, and the most expensive at $2,000.
      The campaigns found by the software were money losers. The keywords that GCD said were "profitable" were the most expensive and did not convert.

      What a nightmare. Glad it's over.
      You said it all right there. Question is...how many of us will fall for the next big thing..?
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  • Profile picture of the author folkcare
    I always wondered how you direct link the proper and right way, been after that for ages. Thanks a lot.
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      • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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        Originally Posted by davekorpi View Post

        Me too.. Please give detail...

        Then we have Domain Forwarding and Masking.. Can we hybridize the two??
        Can we direct link using Domain Forwarding and Masking then auto fill the form??
        Direct linking with masking and forwarding means you don't have to compete with the other direct linkers (to affiliate products). So you get your clicks cheaper and you can compete with the others on single keywords - Google only allows ONE direct affiliate link PER KEYWORD. I covered it here Direct Linking

        BTW don't let Google catch you - it's definitely against their T.O.S. I only use it for testing campaigns.
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  • Profile picture of the author BigJace
    I can't believe how far Chris has fallen. I mean a few years ago his stuff was killer and now its terrible.
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  • Profile picture of the author wyoming
    I finally received the refund after 21 days, 6 emails, 2 support tickets, and 4 canned email responses. Not a pleasant experience.

    I hope everyone else received their refunds.
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  • Profile picture of the author legitimatemoney
    Originally Posted by Amfire View Post

    Warriors,

    Anyone has been part of Beta testing Google Cash Detective? When is it out in the market? Reviews?

    Thanks,
    No, not again! Can anyone find anything real from this program? Please point me to it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Fritzjoerg
    Hi there,

    I am not quite sure if my version is Beta, I just got it a few weeks ago, and let me tell you all..its quite expensive ($997), but worth every penny of it!

    It was mentioned that there are other programs out there with similar capabilities, only this one beats them all and rightly so.

    If you dish out that kind of money, you should expect a bit more than the usual ebook crap everybody wants to sell you.
    I don't know Chris's first edition he rolled out a few years ago, but this one is really delivering!!!
    I can only tell you, if you can afford it, (and there is also a monthly few) go for it, it makes all those GURUS with their cheap crap Pale!

    Inside the program there are also tutorials and Chris has this company "Mastermind Pro's" contracted I guess, who provide weekly conference calls..which are very good!
    Then there are a whole bunch of videos to look at, which I find very informal too, but not as good as what the program is capable to do.

    Chris went Skying in Alaska and promised to have a lot more new videos to upload when he is back at his "crib" in the next few days, and I am looking forward to it!

    Like I said before, If you can afford it, go for it, you won't regret.
    Kodus to Chris, a program that really delivers...

    Fritzjoerg
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    • Profile picture of the author scdayton
      Originally Posted by Fritzjoerg View Post

      Hi there,

      I am not quite sure if my version is Beta, I just got it a few weeks ago, and let me tell you all..its quite expensive ($997), but worth every penny of it!

      It was mentioned that there are other programs out there with similar capabilities, only this one beats them all and rightly so.

      If you dish out that kind of money, you should expect a bit more than the usual ebook crap everybody wants to sell you.
      I don't know Chris's first edition he rolled out a few years ago, but this one is really delivering!!!
      I can only tell you, if you can afford it, (and there is also a monthly few) go for it, it makes all those GURUS with their cheap crap Pale!

      Inside the program there are also tutorials and Chris has this company "Mastermind Pro's" contracted I guess, who provide weekly conference calls..which are very good!
      Then there are a whole bunch of videos to look at, which I find very informal too, but not as good as what the program is capable to do.

      Chris went Skying in Alaska and promised to have a lot more new videos to upload when he is back at his "crib" in the next few days, and I am looking forward to it!

      Like I said before, If you can afford it, go for it, you won't regret.
      Kodus to Chris, a program that really delivers...

      Fritzjoerg
      For crying out loud Mr. Join Date: Feb 2009 6 post guy give it a rest, the gig is up. At least read some of the posts on here before trying to blow sunshine up people butts so you don't look like such a fool. Jeesh.
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      • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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        Originally Posted by scdayton View Post

        For crying out loud Mr. Join Date: Feb 2009 6 post guy give it a rest, the gig is up. At least read some of the posts on here before trying to blow sunshine up people butts so you don't look like such a fool. Jeesh.
        Oh I dunno...I find these "seed" posts very funny. Almost like they're written by a bot. Absolutely no meat in the sandwich. Just platitudes.
        BTW Chris Carpenter claims "The Google Cash Detective converted from lead to sale at 7.7% overall, EVEN after refunds". With payouts to the JVs at "close to a million dollars".
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    • Profile picture of the author 4runner
      Originally Posted by Fritzjoerg View Post

      Hi there,

      I am not quite sure if my version is Beta, I just got it a few weeks ago, and let me tell you all..its quite expensive ($997), but worth every penny of it!

      It was mentioned that there are other programs out there with similar capabilities, only this one beats them all and rightly so.

      If you dish out that kind of money, you should expect a bit more than the usual ebook crap everybody wants to sell you.
      I don't know Chris's first edition he rolled out a few years ago, but this one is really delivering!!!
      I can only tell you, if you can afford it, (and there is also a monthly few) go for it, it makes all those GURUS with their cheap crap Pale!

      Inside the program there are also tutorials and Chris has this company "Mastermind Pro's" contracted I guess, who provide weekly conference calls..which are very good!
      Then there are a whole bunch of videos to look at, which I find very informal too, but not as good as what the program is capable to do.

      Chris went Skying in Alaska and promised to have a lot more new videos to upload when he is back at his "crib" in the next few days, and I am looking forward to it!

      Like I said before, If you can afford it, go for it, you won't regret.
      Kodus to Chris, a program that really delivers...

      Fritzjoerg
      You've got to be kidding me.... *sigh*
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      • Profile picture of the author snapper
        Chris went Skying in Alaska
        Does this mean he has his head in the clouds and has lost touch with the common man?
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        • Profile picture of the author Haydies
          Hello all

          I've recently signed up to the WF, although I have been reading it daily for the past few months. I'm a member of PPC Classroom 2.0 (although about to cancel that) and purchased GCD based solely on Amit's recommendations. Back then I thought he actually cared about his students, I don't believe that any more.

          I took the 4 x $350 payments, then $97 a month payment plan. Being in Australia, it works out to around $500 a payment, then $130+ each month.

          I've been trying to get a refund for ages now and have received nothing but "I'll pass your email onto Chris" responses. I don't know what to do now as we're well past the 30 day trial, and they'll just tell me it's too late. They will cancel my account, but that just leaves me out of pocket $2,000 (Aust) and nothing to show for it.

          I did ask if I could on-sell it, as it's just a log in and password, but again, no word back. I figured I could sell it to someone else on PPC Classroom as they seem to still love Amit. I should care about them too, but at the moment I'm just angry and upset that I got ripped off and want my money back. Especially as it was the last of our savings...
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          • Profile picture of the author 1RisingStar
            I'm member of PPC Classroom 2.0 and I signed up for GCD because of Anik & Amit's high recommendations and for their bonuses.

            It can be a good tool if you use it to promote and find CPA affiliates. ClickBank is over saturated with people trying to direct link. It works for me, but not by direct linking. It cuts down on research time by a lot, but the price is still way too high. I've used it a few times to promote CB offers by copying the ad from GCD with only a few lower cost keywords with one ad for each keyword. My cost would start out high, but but since my quality score was always 8 and above my cost would drop by 50% or more after about 3 to 5 days. I would only get about 20 clicks a day, but it was enough to make avg. 2 sales a week.

            Not much, but if you repeat it many times over it makes enough to cover the cost of GCD plus some more.
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          • Profile picture of the author themarketingdirt
            Originally Posted by Haydies View Post

            Hello all

            I've recently signed up to the WF, although I have been reading it daily for the past few months. I'm a member of PPC Classroom 2.0 (although about to cancel that) and purchased GCD based solely on Amit's recommendations. Back then I thought he actually cared about his students, I don't believe that any more.

            I took the 4 x $350 payments, then $97 a month payment plan. Being in Australia, it works out to around $500 a payment, then $130+ each month.

            I've been trying to get a refund for ages now and have received nothing but "I'll pass your email onto Chris" responses. I don't know what to do now as we're well past the 30 day trial, and they'll just tell me it's too late. They will cancel my account, but that just leaves me out of pocket $2,000 (Aust) and nothing to show for it.

            I did ask if I could on-sell it, as it's just a log in and password, but again, no word back. I figured I could sell it to someone else on PPC Classroom as they seem to still love Amit. I should care about them too, but at the moment I'm just angry and upset that I got ripped off and want my money back. Especially as it was the last of our savings...
            Sad to heard that from you. I really sympathize with you, as I'm in poor financial health right and understand what it's like to bank all your hopes on a product and then discover you have been taken for a ride.

            Here's what I suggest. Since you took the payment plan, you ought to be able to cancel the GCD transaction and avoid paying any further charges. Otherwise file for a chargeback based on the reason that the product did not perform as described. This will be the last resort as it takes months to investigate an international transaction/fraud. If they ask for evidence, just point them to the online forums threads that complain about GCD problem (there are many).

            It is very troublesome but at least you will still have a chance of getting your money back. Hope you succeed, good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author KentuckyJeff
    The bad thing about all of this is, in a year or 2, there will be Google Cash Detective 3 or something, all with a big hyped-up release, and there will be people waiting in line, crashing servers to buy again.
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  • Profile picture of the author stealthwarrior
    well, im a newbie, and bought the tool.

    the tool is easy to use, and i have had no bugs with it. there is an advanced section that i have shown to a few expert PPC marketers i know, and its way over their head.

    so the tool is great to research. but thats just it, its still just a tool.

    after you use this tool to find a niche ( which it does super well) you still have to then build a landing page, set up adwords, get an affliate link, and test it out.

    so it just reduces your time of testing. I am in PPC2 and he says to run about 20 campaigns a month to get a good feel, and minumum 10 a month..

    so with this tool, it will cut down that testing by how much i dont know, as it still takes money to test and build.

    i hope that helps people
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    • Profile picture of the author jtrag
      Originally Posted by stealthwarrior View Post

      well, im a newbie, and bought the tool.

      the tool is easy to use, and i have had no bugs with it. there is an advanced section that i have shown to a few expert PPC marketers i know, and its way over their head.

      so the tool is great to research. but thats just it, its still just a tool.

      after you use this tool to find a niche ( which it does super well) you still have to then build a landing page, set up adwords, get an affliate link, and test it out.

      so it just reduces your time of testing. I am in PPC2 and he says to run about 20 campaigns a month to get a good feel, and minumum 10 a month..

      so with this tool, it will cut down that testing by how much i dont know, as it still takes money to test and build.

      i hope that helps people
      Keep us updated with your results if you could please. I'm interested to see how this works out for you.

      Thanks,

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      Originally Posted by Cookchris09 View Post

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      What's with all of the bs posts" chris?

      I couldn't get these guys to respond either so I just had visa reverse the charges. What a waste of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lightlysalted
    Never heard of it personally can anyone provide a better overview to give some more details.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by Paid Surveys View Post

      Never heard of it personally can anyone provide a better overview to give some more details.
      I can't believe I'm reading this. A "better overview"? There's plenty of people adding their experiences here. Some of them very detailed and informative. What more do you want?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    Holy Crap that was a wasted day i basically read the entire thread because it was so see saw positive and negative comments i had no idea who to believe. So i just kept on reading hoping against hope once all the launch issues were over GCD will work and all newbies became over night super affiliates by cloning and the days of 2003 were back and google made us all millions ...... but at the end only negatives remained and everyone wanted refunds i cannot believe Chris Carpenter made two major flops on the same product 2 years apart .... sad thing is his flop still made more money than i will see my whole life
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    • Profile picture of the author darksky
      I too have found it frustrating when there's a mix bag of positive and negative reviews on a WSO. You don't know who to believe.

      I think the reason you're seeing such divergence on GCD is that there really is a lot to making money with PPC marketing... and even with GCD, there's a lot to DO and learn.

      My bet is most newbies either fail to implement, or maybe only put up 1-3 campaigns and then get frustrated and quit when they don't get positive results.

      Results can be had eve with a single campaign - BUT - there's a lot to it. It's more than just finding a successful campaign and then cloning it. There's also:

      1) your bidding strategy - unless you carefully go through all the videos, you may this.
      2) your negative keywords - many newbies MISS THIS ... negative keywords are a must, unless you're doing exact match only - in which case there are other things you need to pay attention to in your strategy that's also discussed in the videos.
      3) tracking... important, and a way to optimize your campaign and start profiting
      4) niche selection - look PAST the top 10 in clickbank - pay attention to the page your sending traffic too. There's things to watch out for. Also -- go BEYOND clickbank - it's a big world out there.
      5) Whether or not you optimize your campaign after the first few days, like Chris teaches.

      GCD is extremely good for finding profitable campaigns. I use it multiple times per day. It's running fast, and I'm having no problems with it whatsoever.

      Two words: it works!

      The reason you may not see more positives at this late stage is those of us that are happy are BUSY... busy using it. I haven't been back to this thread for some time. From my experience, GCD is running very smoothly... and like I said, I USE IT daily.

      In fact, I can't wait to turn it loose on some new CPA campaigns this week in a few new niches I've uncovered!
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      • Profile picture of the author 4runner
        Originally Posted by darksky View Post

        I too have found it frustrating when there's a mix bag of positive and negative reviews on a WSO. You don't know who to believe.

        I think the reason you're seeing such divergence on GCD is that there really is a lot to making money with PPC marketing... and even with GCD, there's a lot to DO and learn.

        My bet is most newbies either fail to implement, or maybe only put up 1-3 campaigns and then get frustrated and quit when they don't get positive results.

        Results can be had eve with a single campaign - BUT - there's a lot to it. It's more than just finding a successful campaign and then cloning it. There's also:

        1) your bidding strategy - unless you carefully go through all the videos, you may this.
        2) your negative keywords - many newbies MISS THIS ... negative keywords are a must, unless you're doing exact match only - in which case there are other things you need to pay attention to in your strategy that's also discussed in the videos.
        3) tracking... important, and a way to optimize your campaign and start profiting
        4) niche selection - look PAST the top 10 in clickbank - pay attention to the page your sending traffic too. There's things to watch out for. Also -- go BEYOND clickbank - it's a big world out there.
        5) Whether or not you optimize your campaign after the first few days, like Chris teaches.

        GCD is extremely good for finding profitable campaigns. I use it multiple times per day. It's running fast, and I'm having no problems with it whatsoever.

        Two words: it works!

        The reason you may not see more positives at this late stage is those of us that are happy are BUSY... busy using it. I haven't been back to this thread for some time. From my experience, GCD is running very smoothly... and like I said, I USE IT daily.

        In fact, I can't wait to turn it loose on some new CPA campaigns this week in a few new niches I've uncovered!
        I think the issue with the GCD debauchery ultimately came down to NOT whether or not the program was a useful tool, the issue was the misleading method of marketing and how many newbies were *led* to believe you could pick basically any offer out there, *direct link* to it, and be in profit immediately.

        Anybody that has been in the PPC game for more than 10 minutes (or a couple billing cycles) knows this is absolutely NOT the case. As mentioned, there are a TON of variables that are involved to make a campaign successful and those of us that DO already make money with PPC already know what is involved. Having said that, to market a piece of software and claim all the things that it claimed during the launch was in my opinion irresponsible and dangerous (and as a result, disappointing to a lot of people).

        ANY person who has mastered the basics in PPC, knows how to do niche/market/keyword research and can create a landing page or two can use any one of DOZENS of PPC guides out there to get their feet wet. Unfortunately, the gurus are preying on the "opportunity addiction" that runs rampant in this industry and release product after product after product and they each have to claim something bigger and better than the previous launch or people won't pay attention. If you just did what "day job killer" told you to do a couple years ago and devoted a solid 2 months to launching a minimum of 20 to 30 campaigns, you would have learned enough in the process to eek out a profitable campaign in your travels. Unfortunately, 98% of the people reading these forums want the "instant button" and everybody launching these products know it, so they take advantage of it - make their millions, and then the cycle repeats itself.

        PPC Bully 2.0 just launched (http://www.ppcdeconstructed.com/ppcbully2.php ) and it will do exactly what GCD does, AND it has way better sorting capability. GCD's sorting ability was terrible.

        I've got a bunch of other tools that I use as well and at the end of the day, my 2 grand was better spent on launching campaigns than another market research tool - especially when I could get the same data using other tools that are a fraction of the cost.

        Anyway, for those who still continue to use GCD, best of luck and it would be great to see some factual proof of how they are doing (with actual facts and figures). The last I heard, the forums still had zero evidence of anybody having any material success with it - or at least being more successful than what they would have been able to do by just doing some smart and diligent keyword research and launching a campaign or three.

        direct linking is a short term solution and if someone can prove that they were profitable over the long term direct linking to a reverse phone directory offer as outlined with GCD - I'd like to hear about it. Not to mention that you'll never find any of my own campaigns revealed in GCD - so most of the profitable guys have simply blocked the spy tools from even being able to spy on their campaigns anyway - as time goes on, you'll just end up seeing more and more advertisers with campaigns running for 4 days only and assume they pulled it because it wasn't profitable (according to their training) whereas in reality, smart advertisers swap accounts, use multiple accounts, use ad scheduling, geo targeting, htaccess blocking so it's not blatantly obvious what they are doing. There's a plethora of forums out there devoted to combating these spy tools anyway so why would anyone be so naive to think that with a huge launch and market hype like GCD, that profitable advertisers don't know about it and will do whatever it takes to protect their campaigns?
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  • Profile picture of the author rfuture2009
    sound advice, if you can't afford to lose the money, don't purchase the product... I know..... many times over
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  • Profile picture of the author ExtraCashOnline
    Google Cash Detective is a great product and Chris Carpenter is a person of integrity. Many people might bash google cash detective because they thought they were just going to go in and make money right there. They don't understand that you have to spend time learning about how the software works and then spend time putting up campaigns.
    Most people who asked for a refund did so because they were thinking about the money they spend as spending rather than investing. If you are going to be in internet marketing, then you will have to invest in your career as that of an internet marketer. This software is great for pay per click, but pay per click takes money too. Chirs said in the launch back in March that if this was your last money do not invest in the product. Most chose to ignore that and join, then complain when they got in and money did not come rolling out.
    Stop jumping from one product to another. Invest in a product, spend time with it and learn what it has to offer. No product is ever a waste of time and money because you learnt something that you would never have known.
    I signed up back in march and I have made my money back on the price of the software over but I took time to learn the software and commit to setting up campaigns everyday and keep testing and tracking my results. Most people who asked for a refund didn't even have 10 campaigns going, how were you planning on making money????
    Stop being so negative and bashing. You are all in internet marketing-you will not improve the industry with trash talking. Google cash detective is a great software and no ppc bully does not even come close to it!
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    • Profile picture of the author Avidpoet
      Originally Posted by ExtraCashOnline View Post

      Google Cash Detective is a great product and Chris Carpenter is a person of integrity. Many people might bash google cash detective because they thought they were just going to go in and make money right there. They don't understand that you have to spend time learning about how the software works and then spend time putting up campaigns.
      Most people who asked for a refund did so because they were thinking about the money they spend as spending rather than investing. If you are going to be in internet marketing, then you will have to invest in your career as that of an internet marketer. This software is great for pay per click, but pay per click takes money too. Chirs said in the launch back in March that if this was your last money do not invest in the product. Most chose to ignore that and join, then complain when they got in and money did not come rolling out.
      Stop jumping from one product to another. Invest in a product, spend time with it and learn what it has to offer. No product is ever a waste of time and money because you learnt something that you would never have known.
      I signed up back in march and I have made my money back on the price of the software over but I took time to learn the software and commit to setting up campaigns everyday and keep testing and tracking my results. Most people who asked for a refund didn't even have 10 campaigns going, how were you planning on making money????
      Stop being so negative and bashing. You are all in internet marketing-you will not improve the industry with trash talking. Google cash detective is a great software and no ppc bully does not even come close to it!

      I also signed up and lost money because of the teachings there but its hard to believe you with no proof and the fact that you have that link in your sig file dont help. They opened the door back up because PPC Bully 2 came out and now the competition is fierce. Believe me Ive been getting the GCD 2 emails for the past week now and its hard for me to believe anybody when he's offering commissions for new recruits.
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      • Profile picture of the author aimeee
        I also joined GCD and canceled after a few weeks. I don't think this tool is suitable for newbies. It's not that simple to just clone other people's profitable campaigns and expect to profit yourself because you have to outbid your competitors for your ad to appear due to the double serving rule of destination URL. I also don't like the GCD interface in that it doesn't allow filtering on search volume, profitability index etc... to find profitable campaigns quickly. You also have to watch hours of videos to get a few tips from them, most videos recorded from the webinars run by Mastermind Pros twice a day are just repeating the same stuff again and again. The forum is also monitored, every posts are reviewed before they are shown so that people cannot make too negative comments. Also PM is not allowed.
        From what I've seen, less than 10% of GCD members are making profits using this tool. Even then, they said in average, only 1 out of 10 campaigns are profitable.
        So I quit because I don't think I should pay a hefty fee to have only 10% success rate.
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        • Profile picture of the author 4runner
          Hey Everyone,

          I was pretty "vocal" and mde a few rants last month about the gong-show that we all know as GCD. The tool does have it's uses and some people WILL actually make use of the tool, but I definitely didn't like the hype and the somewhat misguided and misleading information (in my opinion) that was being given to sell/hype the product.

          I used it, I tested it and didn't like it. I couldn't sort the data in any meaningful fashion (not sure if they've released a new version of that) and the thing crapped out constantly.

          I have been fortunate enough to be part of PPC Bully since the beginning of version 1, and now with Version 2, it's much more efficient and effective to use (again, in my own opinion) and Emil and Yefi and Ran have been a great resource of info and help when I have asked them (especially during the launch).

          In using the product, I have had great success using it for SEO (!) and not just PPC (which a video I did was featured on their launch blog). Using it in this "slightly off the beaten path way", I was able to drive organic traffic to my blog for the launch last week and ended up #11 on their JV leaderboard with purely organic FREE traffic.

          Ended up starting a mastermind for people that picked up a license via my blog as I feel that if *I* can do this, anybody can for crying out loud. Not sure if they still have the doors open, but there's still room in my mastermind if you're sitting on the fence. I'll be going over my whole process of what I did for this particular product and I even ended up ahead of Mike Filsaime on the leaderboard even though he has a list of hundreds of thousands...

          Tav.

          p.s. - I'll be throwing up a few more videos about all this during the week so stay tuned.
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            • Profile picture of the author 4runner
              Originally Posted by davekorpi View Post

              How Does PPC Bully deal with the cloaked ClickBank URL's? For example PPC Bully says they can look at all the campaigns joeblow does but now joeblow is 97x&836Fdr one day and 376EwxQ1! the next..

              Would LOVE to know..

              Will all these things be "dead" with URL Cloaking?

              Thanks,

              Dave

              What are Trackbacks, and how do I use them?? Can I benefit dudes by using them. I see 4 under this thing...
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              That's actually a very good question re: Clickbank URL cloaking. I'm waiting to hear back from Emil and Yefi and will let you know what they tell me.

              In any case, the amount of profitable direct linked clickbank offers are few and far between to say the least. In one of the PPC Bully videos, they mentioned that only 4 percent (or something abysmal like that) of direct linked clickbank campaigns met their standard profitability index (which had to be higher than 21).

              At the end of the day, the tool helps you "get in the door" so to speak. I think people expecting to just clone and direct link and expect they are going to make buckets of money are kidding themselves and don't understand what the PPC marketing game really requires to be successful. GCD or PPC Bully is just a START to the whole picture. There are thousands of campaigns in either tool that show keywords being complete failures and unprofitable (according to their profitability index equation or number of days shown) - but in reality, it's the ad copy that sucked or the landing page that got slapped or the sales process was flawed. There's a whole set of variables that contribute to PPC profitablity and it's beyond JUST the keyword and cloning someone else's success (or lack thereof).

              In terms of trackbacks, it's almost easier just to Google it and you'll see what they are. It's basically just referencing a post on someone else's site through your own site - a remote comment if you will. They help with your off page SEO efforts since they create a backlink from the site you are getting the trackback from. In this case, people doing trackbacks from this forum are essentially getting some PR link juice to their own blogs by referencing some of these posts within their own blog. Hope that made sense - it's late lol.

              cheers
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              • Profile picture of the author adamprince
                If you watched the PPC Bully pre launch videos, from my perspective, they are FULL OF CRAP saying that they only spent $2.23 and made $25.00 from that adwords campaign they were running. That is NOT what gave them the sale -- I can guarantee you that much! How do I know this? Simple... when people lie, they ALWAYS forget about the little details. Confused are you? Well, in about 30 seconds, you won't be.

                Watch the video again and see how they are setting up their adwords campaigns. They are adding a Clickbank TID to the urls and they even mention that they will be tracking, which is why they wanted to use PHRASE MATCH. Then look at their clickbank account when it's opened after they SUPPOSEDLY made a sale. Do you see a Tracking id ANYWHERE on the clickbank page? Look at the TID column and you will see that it's empty. Why is it empty? Simple... because the sale is a phony... meaning they likely bought the product themselves to make it seem like a sale occured from their adwords campaign within the last hour.

                Every internet marketer and guru in the world knows that you have to track every single keyword so you know where the sale comes from and what keywords to drop -- but they're clickbank sale doesn't have a tracking id? Gimmee a break. If there is no tracking id, then it means one of two things -- either they're rookies or they faked the sale. Given their so called vast experience and investment into PPC Bully 2.0, I'd say the odds are definitely favorable for them faking the sale, wouldn't you agree? And if they faked the sale, then they probably faked the CTR on their ads too -- meaning they had 50 or so friends click on the ad to get a high CTR for the video demo purposes. It's not hard to do since the CPC was only .05.

                I do have to say however that PPC Bully has better filtering, though they have limited keywords. I did a search for ppc bully and ppcbully and those keywords were not to be found. Additionally I did a search for Kris Allen, Adam Lambert, and Danny Gokey and none were to be found. Those are still hot searches on Google.

                GCD on the other hand allows you to add as many of your own keywords as you want, which is a huge plus. PPC Bully is limited to a small set of keywords. I highly doubt they have 2.1 million keywords as I have tons of example of common keywords that are simply not in the database. If PPC Bully lied in their prelaunch by faking the clicks and the sale, then I wouldn't put it past them to lie about how many keywords they have.

                To me PPC Bully is unproven. They have limited keywords with only a month and a half worth of data. As data accumulates and if they add more keywords we will see how it handles.

                Additionally they way they identify unique advertisers is flawed. They treat each unique Ad as like a unique advertiser. So if an advertiser is split testing 4 different ads, it may appear that they are not profitable. For example they could be split testing 4 ads with equal distribution. This means that over the course of 100 days it might look like one ad is 25/100, the other ads are 25/100, 25/100, 25/100. Depending on how you sort the data (can't sort by display or destination url) it becomes extremely difficult to see that the advertiser is profitable. And if you do find all of the ads, then you have to manually add the data together.

                So over all I would have to say that if GCD can add some filtering simliar to PPC Bully, I think it's a much superior tool. The ability to add your own keywords is huge for me, at least.

                Adam
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      • Profile picture of the author thomashoi
        Originally Posted by Avidpoet View Post

        I also signed up and lost money because of the teachings there but its hard to believe you with no proof and the fact that you have that link in your sig file dont help. They opened the door back up because PPC Bully 2 came out and now the competition is fierce. Believe me Ive been getting the GCD 2 emails for the past week now and its hard for me to believe anybody when he's offering commissions for new recruits.
        Making money online is not difficult as long as you have the right education. Many people keep buying software and ebooks hoping to swallow a pill and make thousands the next day.

        This is not internet marketing, this is get rich quick scam.

        If all newbies were to do proper market research and understand their customer first, highly targeted profitable keywords will come naturally.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by ExtraCashOnline View Post

      Google Cash Detective is a great product and Chris Carpenter is a person of integrity. Many people might bash google cash detective because they thought they were just going to go in and make money right there. They don't understand that you have to spend time learning about how the software works and then spend time putting up campaigns.
      Most people who asked for a refund did so because they were thinking about the money they spend as spending rather than investing. If you are going to be in internet marketing, then you will have to invest in your career as that of an internet marketer. This software is great for pay per click, but pay per click takes money too. Chirs said in the launch back in March that if this was your last money do not invest in the product. Most chose to ignore that and join, then complain when they got in and money did not come rolling out.
      Stop jumping from one product to another. Invest in a product, spend time with it and learn what it has to offer. No product is ever a waste of time and money because you learnt something that you would never have known.
      I signed up back in march and I have made my money back on the price of the software over but I took time to learn the software and commit to setting up campaigns everyday and keep testing and tracking my results. Most people who asked for a refund didn't even have 10 campaigns going, how were you planning on making money????
      Stop being so negative and bashing. You are all in internet marketing-you will not improve the industry with trash talking. Google cash detective is a great software and no ppc bully does not even come close to it!
      And then you put an affiliate link in your sig. LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eloquent47
    Incredible.

    It is now 6:19pm BST. At about 7:45am this morning I decided to get online, before the house woke, in order to research a product which landed in my inbox. I watched the very, very appealing videos late last night and was entranced by a cool, natural presenter I had never heard of before, in a setting to die for.

    I was there. In the open-plan bo-ho chic house surrounded by sand, low-hung fruit and placid dogs. I was there. In the deep blue sea with the shore in the near distance . . . even though I cannot swim. (A metaphor?)

    I decided to start my research in WF and entered GCD2 in the search. What an incredible journey. I was completely caught up in the emotional fall-out with barely-disguised excitement before launch day to the slow but dreadful dawning that things were not right post-purchase to pure anger from customers at the thought of being fraudulently manipulated. But such wisdom among you. With everyone from newbie to experienced infopreneur adding their value to the thread to arrive at an agreed consensus about GCD2. Great community spirit.

    Needless to say, I have just finished the entire thread - it has taken all day. It is now 6:52pm BST and my research is complete. Thank you WF.
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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Million
      Originally Posted by Eloquent47 View Post

      Incredible.

      It is now 6:19pm BST. At about 7:45am this morning I decided to get online, before the house woke, in order to research a product which landed in my inbox. I watched the very, very appealing videos late last night and was entranced by a cool, natural presenter I had never heard of before, in a setting to die for.

      I was there. In the open-plan bo-ho chic house surrounded by sand, low-hung fruit and placid dogs. I was there. In the deep blue sea with the shore in the near distance . . . even though I cannot swim. (A metaphor?)

      I decided to start my research in WF and entered GCD2 in the search. What an incredible journey. I was completely caught up in the emotional fall-out with barely-disguised excitement before launch day to the slow but dreadful dawning that things were not right post-purchase to pure anger from customers at the thought of being fraudulently manipulated. But such wisdom among you. With everyone from newbie to experienced infopreneur adding their value to the thread to arrive at an agreed consensus about GCD2. Great community spirit.

      Needless to say, I have just finished the entire thread - it has taken all day. It is now 6:52pm BST and my research is complete. Thank you WF.
      Your username fits you very well . I've been 100% organic, but have always been curious about PPC. I normally avoid Kern's emails, but I happened to read that one and when I clicked on that link I fell into a journey, too, lol.

      I mean, WOOOW, what fantastic marketing. I don't think I've come across a launch as powerful as that...ever...

      An entire emotional rollercoaster, the music, the projected 'dream'... surfing huge waves... and Chris' personality, whether real or 'marketed', really gives you the feeling that everyone can do this... incredible.

      If I had to describe the campaign in one word it would be: 'escape'

      Anyway... organic is working just fine for me, but I did run 3 campaigns off of the trial version of gcd and one is breaking even from direct linking and all three campaigns have over a 15% CTR... so with a landing page I think I got my foot into some nice profits...

      Seems to me all you really need is one winner to ride the expenses of your other compaigns until you find another, and another, etc... and you just keep building out while testing/optimizing.

      It's finding that first winner where I think a lot of people lose their shirt either from bad luck, misunderstanding the process, or poor implementation. Then it's like, "Screw you GCD", lol. It's the same with running minisite campaigns... For 10 sites you'll get several losers, a couple goodies, and 1-2 cash-ins. Then you focus your efforts in the cash-in markets while testing out some new ones.

      What Chris should make very CLEAR, though, is that PPC requires a lot of upfront investment. He says a couple hundred in the video, but I think $800-$2000 would be a better estimate if you're going to run 10 campaigns to find 1-2 gems. I think I just got a bit lucky by hitting 1 out of 3.

      Also, I'm not sure if he's covering this in his product for the launch, but I think a lot of vendors, especially on ClickBank, are affiliates of their own products, and while finding a direct linking campaign may seem like a gem, you might be facing a vendor who's trying to pump up their gravity / ratings. Another reason why investment should be outlined better... and I feel for those who are looking at this as their 'answer' and go all-in "excited" and not really thinking it out.

      Anyway, I feel 'ya, I was up all night watching those videos and setting up campaigns, too. I definitely moved up a few levels in PPC as I've never 'broken even' before, lol... and I know when I do a landing page I'll be able to make that very profitable using some split testing.

      My only real concern is what do you do when someone copies YOUR campaigns!!!

      Cheers,

      Scott
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      • Profile picture of the author scottty64
        What I am pissed about is I had to pay $1000 just to join up with GCD and now 3 months later people are given the oppurtunity to join and try for 7 days for a $1. Also so much for GCD being limited to a select few as was advertised when this was launched now that there is also an affiliate program there as well...I'll know better next time when someone else claims to have the next big product or whatever with all these promises to just stay the hell away from it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Lothar Evers
          Originally Posted by scottty64 View Post

          What I am pissed about is I had to pay $1000 just to join up with GCD and now 3 months later people are given the oppurtunity to join and try for 7 days for a $1.
          Sorry for those that had to pay thousands upfront.
          New pricing is now $97 a month with (one more) 7 day trial.
          Included now for free:
          15 videos by Chris Carpenter on the foundations of Google Cash.
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        • Profile picture of the author Scott Million
          Originally Posted by scottty64 View Post

          What I am pissed about is I had to pay $1000 just to join up with GCD and now 3 months later people are given the oppurtunity to join and try for 7 days for a $1. Also so much for GCD being limited to a select few as was advertised when this was launched now that there is also an affiliate program there as well...I'll know better next time when someone else claims to have the next big product or whatever with all these promises to just stay the hell away from it.
          $97 / mo for 12 months is more than $1,000. Did you get a yearly or lifetime access? Either way you got a better deal.
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          • Profile picture of the author scottty64
            Originally Posted by Scott Million View Post

            $97 / mo for 12 months is more than $1,000. Did you get a yearly or lifetime access? Either way you got a better deal.

            I paid $1000 upfront and am also paying $97 a month, how do you figure I got a better deal when someone can join for a dollar and pay $97 a month. From my calculations I paid $999 more than those who are joining now for a dollar.
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            • Profile picture of the author snapper
              Let me get this straight...you can now join for $1 and $97 per month. Shhhez that would make me mad if I had paid my 1 gorrilla upfront a few months ago.

              Thinking about this a little further (talk about stating the bleedin obvious) it would seem that things are not going so well in GC land.

              Funny thing is I got an email from a well known IMer the other day whose first name starts with F and ends with rank stating that GC1 wasn't that good, but GC2 had fabulous support and was a great product.

              They just don't seem to care about cred. They just plough on churning out the emails. Maybe this is a good lesson to learn.
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            • Profile picture of the author Lothar Evers
              Originally Posted by scottty64 View Post

              I paid $1000 upfront and am also paying $97 a month, how do you figure I got a better deal when someone can join for a dollar and pay $97 a month. From my calculations I paid $999 more than those who are joining now for a dollar.
              It seems to me that a lot of buyers canceled. The reasons are very well exposed in this thread. The incredible $ 1,000 upfront fee might have been a concession to the huge number of Gurus promoting this carelessly. They wanted there upfront commission.
              $ 97 a month is much more reasonable, but still too expensive in my opinion. Nobody will use GCD the whole day. So if there are cooperatives of 3 to 4 of us using it jointly it is much more reasonable.
              However:
              getting the Google Cash Video Course from Cris Carpenter for $ 1 to me is a nobrainer. Since he issued the Google Cash Method many years ago Carpenter is an expert in it. As I am not this expert myself I will catch and study it. This will need some time and hopefully Google Cash Detective and all these wonder tools have dropped in price a little further by then.
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              • Profile picture of the author scottty64
                Just an update on $1 joining fee

                I emailed support and I was told that after the 7 day trial those wishing to continue with it would still have to "buy in" just like those who paid the big bucks up front had to do, as well as paying the monthly fee of $97.

                Says nothing on the sales page that this is the case as it only states that if after the 7 day trial you still want it then it would be $97 a month so we will see.
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                • Profile picture of the author Avidpoet
                  Wow so thats the catch! Yeah it doesnt say that on the Sales page at all. I guess you can add that to the bag of Marketing tricks and stunts some use.

                  "Count down timer"

                  "Oh God we just crashed our server"

                  "Once we close thats it"

                  (week later)

                  Ok ok after a few arm twists I decided to open it back up lmaooooooooo Internet Marketing is becoming comical man.
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  • Profile picture of the author sputnik
    4-runner,
    I just checked and they (PPC Bully 2) are still open.
    Although Emil mailed me on Saturday and said they would "close the doors in 2 days".
    Ok, now it is Tuesday and it is still there (the counter still says 'only 48 available':-) - again typical IM-hype!

    As far as marketing hype is concerned, I couldn't see any difference in the way Bully was marketed compared to GCD. Both were creating the typical hype we can observe with any big launch.

    The only thing I don't like about GCD is that many times it will show you a URL and when you click on it it says it has 'no information' on that URL - despite the fact that it shows up in the results. But so far I was able to uncover many keywords that I would have never come up with.

    I've got both PPC Bully and GCD and when I have some time later this week I might even do a side-by-side comparison of both products with screen shots and a sample set of keywords that I will use in both tools to see which one get the better results.


    Let's see...
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    • Profile picture of the author 4runner
      Originally Posted by sputnik View Post

      4-runner,
      I just checked and they (PPC Bully 2) are still open.
      Although Emil mailed me on Saturday and said they would "close the doors in 2 days".
      Ok, now it is Tuesday and it is still there (the counter still says 'only 48 available':-) - again typical IM-hype!

      As far as marketing hype is concerned, I couldn't see any difference in the way Bully was marketed compared to GCD. Both were creating the typical hype we can observe with any big launch.

      The only thing I don't like about GCD is that many times it will show you a URL and when you click on it it says it has 'no information' on that URL - despite the fact that it shows up in the results. But so far I was able to uncover many keywords that I would have never come up with.

      I've got both PPC Bully and GCD and when I have some time later this week I might even do a side-by-side comparison of both products with screen shots and a sample set of keywords that I will use in both tools to see which one get the better results.


      Let's see...
      @ Sputnik

      *Hype* is all relative I suppose. I think the problem people had with the GCD hype was how terrible version 1.0 was when they released it originally and during their new launch - the expectation was pretty high. I think PPC Bully's launch was more informative and educational and although done with a degree of so-called hype - their videos at least provided some real live examples that showcased the tool being used in a practical manner. GCD's examples in the training were a little dodgy - showing that reverse phone detective campaign and learn guitar market and basically saying all you have to do is direct link to these clickbank offers and using Chris's Google Cash method from 5 years ago or whatever, everything would be hunky dory and you'd be having banana mango milkshakes sitting on a beach somewhere. At least Emil and Ran showed the tool being used and figures from a customer's account showing profit - that's all that matters.

      The "limited number remaining" is standard fare - but I do know that based on the last receipt number I received from someone buying through my link last night, it was in 1400's and Emil said they were going to sell 1,500 licenses (whether or not they started at 1 is anyone's guess but who cares).

      What I didn't like about GCD is you can't fricken sort anything in a meaningful manner, nor can you export properly. Their profitablity index is questionable and they only had access to US data. You would literally spend hours clicking on advertise after advertiser trying to find high PI advertisers and you'd have a hundred tabs open in your browser. At least with PPC Bully, you set a filter, BAM, it's done - no dorking around and clicking on stuff trying to uncover the keywords. When I first started using GCD, it was crapping out all the time and constantly kicking everyone off so that left a pretty sour taste in everyones mouth from the get-go - maybe it's improved now, I dunno as I cancelled my membership and use PPC Bully versions 1 and 2 along with PPC Kahuna now.

      Both tools obviously mine the same information, however the interfaces differ enough that there is a big difference in how the data is presented which ultimately translates to efficiency in using the tool. The coverflow thing is cool in GCD, but although I wasted so much time playing with that, it didn't really *help* me per se and the results were always flaking out anyway.

      Regardless, I personally look forward to your report on the side by side comparison. Based on what I do, I liked PPC Bully better and that's why I stuck with it.

      cheers
      Tav.
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      • Profile picture of the author 4runner
        @ AdamPrince - from your quote:

        "Watch the video again and see how they are setting up their adwords campaigns. They are adding a Clickbank TID to the urls and they even mention that they will be tracking, which is why they wanted to use PHRASE MATCH. Then look at their clickbank account when it's opened after they SUPPOSEDLY made a sale. Do you see a Tracking id ANYWHERE on the clickbank page? Look at the TID column and you will see that it's empty. Why is it empty? Simple... because the sale is a phony... meaning they likely bought the product themselves to make it seem like a sale occured from their adwords campaign within the last hour."

        So conspiracy aside, I think the purpose of the demonstration was to show how an average "rookie" (as you call it) could setup a campaign without dealing with keyword TID's. They used Google's dynamic keyword insertion token and if you go right now and enter your clickbank hoplink with /?tid=diet vi rut at the end of it - see for yourself what comes up at the clickbank checkout (for those that don't want to bother, because the keyword was "diet vi rut" - it's longer than 8 characters and it has spaces, so in this case, the {keyword} token doesn't parse properly to clickbank so you do in fact end up with a null value in the TID tracking column - *THAT* is why their clickbank sales report showed a null value for the TID - NOT because they were faking it, or the sale was phony, or they were trying to mislead the viewers. And remember, it was a phrase matched keyword, so who knows what the actual full search term was inclusive of "diet vi rut" - it could have been way more than 8 characters and clickbank would have punted anything longer than 8 characters or with a space as a tracking TID anyway (There's a hint for those of you that want to track TID's with this (archaic) method - DON'T DO IT unless you're using exact match keywords less than 8 characters with no spaces and always test your destination URL's all the way through to checkout to make sure it shows up. To do PROPER keyword tracking, visit my site listed below and you can read about some of the tools I use). Either way, you are at least correct that a properly executed campaign should always have specific keyword tracking and again, Emil and Ran probably didn't bother going into detail of setting up tracking TID's for their demo because it was simply beyond the scope of the demo and they wanted to show how quick you could set something up.

        For those who are still not convinced, I'll make this easy for you: enter this into your browser or click the following link and go through to checkout as this is exactly what their ad would have displayed based on the destination URL in their demo:

        " http://blankhtml.4idiots.hop.clickba...iet%20vi%20rut " (the %20 represents the spaces that google would have automatically put in via the dynamic keyword token. You can even substitute your own clickbank ID if you think I'm trying to "trick" you)

        Notice anything at the bottom of the clickbank checkout? NO TID. Just your affiliate ID. Now try the exact same link, but with a keyword LESS than 8 characters and no spaces...

        Moral of the story "Mr. 1 post and just joined in May and ironically calls Emil and Ran rookies even though apparently has no clear understanding of clickbank tracking TID's himself"? I wouldn't be so quick to accuse people of being phonies

        @ George Dube - absolutely, all these things are tools. Without your brain to make use of the tool effectively, it's all useless. I don't think any of these gurus are going out with the express purpose of "taking advantage" of anyone - but as most of the people on this forum should know, opportunity addiction runs rampant in this space and the lure of the "magic button" will always prevail over hard work and common sense - anyone selling into this market realizes that so they are just selling into the demand. The tool works as advertised - plain and simple. It's like selling you a scalpal and expecting you to perform the simplest of operations - no matter how many times you've watched ER - and then people complaining that the scalpal was too sharp and your patient ended up bleeding to death. Is it the tools fault?

        The attitude in here seems that nobody wants to take full responsibility and accountability for their OWN actions or lack of education in the PPC game. Common sense would dictate that you aint gonna' make a killing selling reverse phone detective or jamorama after the demos that GCD did - but do you think tons of people did and lost a bunch of money doing it? absolutely.... then they go and blame the software that it didn't work...

        as you said:
        "Again.. create relationships with your niche, build quality content, link your sites, add value and give away loads of good freebies, and people will pay you back in kind... "

        That's the right attitude to succeed... there is no shortcut.

        Having an account with a ton of idle campaigns with that have a lot of impressions with ZERO clicks will indeed affect your initial quality score when launching new campaigns.

        @ 2b1ask1 - although your ad has been running for years with low clicks and low impressions, if someone came across your ad or keywords within PPC Bully (or GCD), if they knew what they were doing, they would either see that the traffic for that keyword is very low (thus low impressions), and I would certainly hope that people understand that when they see a keyword that has a high profitability score, but with abysmal traffic of say, 40/month, that isn't exactly a good indicator that the ad is profitable!

        that's another thing, if people actually bothered to go through the examples, watch the videos, read the documentation, they would figure all this out and know how to interpret the data the tools are showing us. It's not that hard folks.

        @DaveKorpi - Although we won't be able to query based on the affiliate ID with the new cloaked clickbank links - you can still query on the display URL which must be the same as the product name anyway in order to stay within Googles TOS. ie, if you wanted to promote fatloss4idiots, if someone was direct linking even with their cloaked clickbank ID, their display URL would still have to show "fatloss4idiots.com". So, you just query for display URL of fatloss4idiots.com and you'll still see all the affiliates direct linking to clickbank. With the cloaking, all this prevents is our ability to see what OTHER products these affiliates are advertising for because we can't query on their clickbank ID explicitly. does it really matter though? all you want to see are profitable clickbank products and what the keywords associated with them are. If you want to see the top clickbank affiliates and what they are promoting, just goto keywordspy.com and it will show you the top 10 "super affiliates" based on number of keywords they are advertising on as well as what clickbank product they are advertising. Happy reverse engineering...

        @Sputnik - Doors were shut as of this morning.


        **disclaimer, I was one of the top JV's for PPC Bully so I am a bit biased towards the tool - but I use it and I have gotten great use out of it and I'm sharing my experience with my mastermind group.
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        • Profile picture of the author adamprince
          Just for the record I joined in May of 2008....not 2009 From what I recall watching the video, he was using a software that changes the keywords into an 8 digit number.

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          • Profile picture of the author 4runner
            Originally Posted by adamprince View Post

            Just for the record I joined in May of 2008....not 2009 From what I recall watching the video, he was using a software that changes the keywords into an 8 digit number.

            Adam
            lol. just being facetious - but you know what I mean and the credibility factor is always questioned (especially in the last little while) when people jump on the forum and start bashing stuff with no other posts.

            Anyway, no - they didn't use any tool to turn keywords into 8 figure numbers like affiliate radar or hexatrack or hippojaw or whatever else - they just put in those keywords, slapped up a campaign with a generic clickbank directlink and stuck the google DKI token on the end - that's it. No hocus pocus, no misrepresentation, no wool over anyones eyes.

            What I don't like seeing in other examples are when people talk about earning 50k a day or whatever (like the CPA arbitrage launch) and try to make people think THAT is done easily - it's obviously not and marketing as such is completely irresponsible. For Emil's case, their example is totally achievable and most importantly - believable. Advertising on those keywords could legitimately drive that trafffic and one sale out of 45 clicks - that's a crazy converting product in a total buying market - so it's not out of the question. When the people "teaching" the GCD method used reverse phone detective as their demo - I think they could have come up with something a little better and everyone that tried to clone that campaign failed miserably - not because the tool didn't work - because they were led to believe it was just *that* easy without taking so many other factors into consideration. Do you think people started promoting fatloss4idiots with "diet vi rut" (which is apparently something in vietnamese by the way) - I'm sure they did - but whether or not it converted for anyone else is anyones guess.
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              • Profile picture of the author thomashoi
                I receive an email from Frank Kern recommending me to get Google cash detective 2. I decide to check it out and this is what I find out:

                This is basically a spy tool which can help you to find the most profitable keywords that is advertised on google adwords. Seems that this time round, the software is more complicated and need a server to run and maintain it.

                Also if google find that that's too many queries from the same ip, they might ban you and thus you wouldn't get anything. Google is constantly changing their programming code and gcd 2 might have problems extracting the data from google adwords.

                Finally, I guess that this piece of software does not teach you anything about internet marketing but google cash detective 2 simply "give you a fish" and this cost a bomb.

                At the end of the day, you need to "keep buying fishes" but still does not know how to fish, because knowing the keyword is one thing, but as long as you don't understand why your customer buys a product, you will not make a sale.

                Also the real people making tons of money online build opt-in list and cross sell products in the future so they don't make google rich!
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                • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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                  Originally Posted by thomashoi View Post

                  Seems that this time round, the software is more complicated and need a server to run and maintain it.
                  hang on...GCD is using "Cloud Computing". You don't need a server at all. Stop talking rubbish. A cloud service is sold on demand, typically by the minute or the hour - and you can have as much or as little of a service as you like. The service is fully managed by the Cloud provider and you need nothing but a personal computer and Internet access - preferably High Speed Broadband. That's the whole idea of it.
                  Not trying to flog GCD. In fact - just the opposite - as you'll no doubt glean from my many comments in this thread.
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            • Profile picture of the author 4runner
              Originally Posted by davekorpi View Post

              Adam:
              The 8 digit tracking number you refer to in that video was created by StatsJunky, which is my affiliate link if you want to check it out The idea of hiding the keywords is we do not want things like GCD or PPC Bully to "spy" on our keywords. As such we may find an awesome offer that works super duper well and be confident that nobody will "clone" our little magical money maker.
              One thing about StatsJunky is it is VERY NEW and has some problems but I still use the crazy thing. They ARE making it better every day but it has the black user interfact that I really really do not like AT ALL! It is terrible! StatsJunky is super easy to use because I use SpeedPPC with it.

              The reason it works so well with StatsJunky is because SpeedPPC makes ONE keyword per ADGROUP! As such the ADGROUP name is the same as the keyword. You can then apply StatsJunky keyword cloaking to your program and voila... Nobody can spy on you! I REALLY LOVE the SpeedPPC program. Unbelievable indeed... eedPPC has AWESOME customer service, which I can not say for StatsJunky.... yet.., AND they have cool videos to learn from. I woult TOTALLY not be able to run my campaigns without SpeedPPC and StatsJunky... The REASON? It is because SpeedPPC makes a TON of keywords and then StatsJunky tells me which ones I should trash. Frequently I find the most amazing results. In one example I discovered a mispelling in a keyword that was not expected that by using StatsJunky I discovered it. It is like discovering that folks wanting wedding dresses frequently typed in weeding dresses,, like when you weed in the garden. My keyword has to do with patents and it is so cool that I do want to keep it as my own discovery... And StatsJunky gives it a secret 8 digit number... And,... I LOVE it!

              Lastly, I am making a super duper HUGE Coupon Website... Anyone know feeds to get er done??? Like LinkShare only more??
              There was no 8 digit TID in their demo video as I mentioned a few posts back, they weren't doing TID tracking for the example. If you own PPC Bully, however, you would have been instructed in the members area in their training videos to specifically use tracking so that's not an issue. If you think you can do PPC without tracking, you're nuts. Scary thing is, tons of people are doing that and you can find thousands of them direct linking within PPC Bully.

              "The idea of hiding the keywords is we do not want things like GCD or PPC Bully to "spy" on our keywords. As such we may find an awesome offer that works super duper well and be confident that nobody will "clone" our little magical money maker. "
              Umm, GCD or PPCBully does *exactly* what you just described - when you advertise on a keyword - THAT is what the tool uncovers as you can't hide your keyword you're bidding on by using a cloaked TID in your destination URL. Just because you are cloaking your TID or SID is irrelevant in terms of people "spying on you" and this will only prevent the MERCHANT or Affiliate Network from finding out what keywords you actually used to convert to a sale or drove traffic to their site. PPC Bully or GCD finds your keyword based on the keyword you actually bid on (and you obviosuly aren't bidding on a cloaked keyword).

              ie, I could bid on the term "fat loss for idiots" but my destination url could have "blahblah.4idiots.hop.clickbank.net/?TID=g472894" which is created using whatever tracking tool you use, or just with an excel spreadsheet that you keep yourself. All this means is, when the owner of Fat Loss For Idiots looks at his sales stats, he'll see a sale from you and your referring link, but will see some weird TID and have no idea what the actual keyword was that you bid on - it prevents the MERCHANT from taking your profitable keywords and bidding on them himself since he gets to collect allllllll the sales data from alllllll his affiliates which is a very powerful piece of information. Only YOU know that "g472894" represented the keyword "fat loss for idiots". This is especially key in CPA networks where there's all sorts of unscrupulous things going on. So anyway, cloaking your TID doesn't prevent GCD or PPC Bully from finding what actual keywords you are bidding on. I think that's what you were trying to say - or at least I hope - because people will still be able to clone your little magic money makers all day long once they find out your destination URLs, whether you're cloaking your TIDs or not.

              Regardless, unless you're launching hundreds of campaigns with thousands of keywords across multiple affiliate networks within various paid advertising networks - you don't really NEED to use anything other than an excel spreadsheet. (I sure as hell don't do that and use a variety of tracking tools, but I use different ones in the same market with different adwords accounts so I don't leave a big footprint). There's also ways to block tracking tools like spyfy, keyword spy, key compete, hexatrack, etc etc etc from spying on your keywords you're bidding on as well as strategies to prevent GCD or PPCBully from identifying you as necessarily profitable based on on their Profitibality index algorithm - but that's an entirely different thread.

              Also, Speed PPC is great and Jay and Reena over there are fantastic, but there are other much cheaper alternatives to Speed PPC - and Speed PPC doesn't create and append tracking URL's when you're deploying campaigns. I use another tool that's better - and I won't put my affiliate link in here and violate the rules of the forum

              T.

              p.s. - Good luck with your coupon site...
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        • Profile picture of the author CMartin
          Just two corrections:

          Regarding ClickBank TIDs:
          Originally Posted by 4-runner View Post

          2009-06-17: [...]it could have been way more than 8 characters and clickbank would have punted anything longer than 8 characters or with a space as a tracking TID anyway[...]
          ClickBank TIDs can have 24 (twenty four) characters since 2009-03-10:
          https://www.clickbank.com/account/news.htm
          2009-03-10: Extending TIDs to 24 Characters
          Affiliates can better track and manage campaigns by tying a specific sale back to the promotion that initiated it via TIDs. Now TIDs can be 24 characters long.
          Regarding the use of affiliate links in the ads:
          Originally Posted by 4-runner View Post

          2009-06-20: [...]ie, I could bid on the term "fat loss for idiots" but my destination url could have "blahblah.4idiots.hop.clickbank.net/?TID=g472894" which is created using whatever tracking tool you use, or just with an excel spreadsheet that you keep yourself. All this means is, when the owner of Fat Loss For Idiots looks at his sales stats, he'll see a sale from you and your referring link, but will see some weird TID and have no idea what the actual keyword was that you bid on - it prevents the MERCHANT from taking your profitable keywords and bidding on them himself since he gets to collect allllllll the sales data from alllllll his affiliates which is a very powerful piece of information. Only YOU know that "g472894" represented the keyword "fat loss for idiots".[...]
          When using affiliate links in your ads, Vendors can see (by checking their server stats or with other automated system) what referrer page the lead was coming from, so if it was a page from Google search, it will have the keyword the lead entered in the query string. With a few analisys and research the Vendor can easily know exactly what are the keywords that are converting better and it can eventually start competing with you.

          So, it's never a good strategy to use affiliate links in the ads because most of the affiliate links use automated redirects and passes the referrer page that can be used by the vendor. The best way is to create landing pages in your web site and send traffic to it from your ads and only there [in your landing page] have your affiliate link [cloaked or not]. Sure... more work... but at least the vendor will not know what keywords the lead used.

          Carlos
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          • Profile picture of the author 4runner
            Originally Posted by CMartin View Post

            Just two corrections:

            Regarding ClickBank TIDs:
            ClickBank TIDs can have 24 (twenty four) characters since 2009-03-10:

            Regarding the use of affiliate links in the ads:

            When using affiliate links in your ads, Vendors can see (by checking their server stats or with other automated system) what referrer page the lead was coming from, so if it was a page from Google search, it will have the keyword the lead entered in the query string. With a few analisys and research the Vendor can easily know exactly what are the keywords that are converting better and it can eventually start competing with you.

            So, it's never a good strategy to use affiliate links in the ads because most of the affiliate links use automated redirects and passes the referrer page that can be used by the vendor. The best way is to create landing pages in your web site and send traffic to it from your ads and only there [in your landing page] have your affiliate link [cloaked or not]. Sure... more work... but at least the vendor will not know what keywords the lead used.

            Carlos
            Yes - it was the spaces that punted the keyword tracking, not being over 8 characters. Although Clickbank now accepts 24 character TID's, I never use anything more than 8 since I don't need to based on the tracking tools I use - they just assign the numbers for me. Besides, who would need a 24 character TID unless they were actually using naked keyphrases?

            In terms of the referrer URL, again, correct if you are direct linking from adwords - which you shouldn't do anyways and part of my massive rant way earlier about the GCD strategies in general.
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  • Profile picture of the author phil.wheatley
    Hi Guys

    Thanks for your all your comments on this topic, I've found them to be very sobering. By that, I mean I was really getting sucked into the hype around this and thought was it really WOULD be a case of just grabbing someones ad, cloning the site and then making a ton of cash.

    Ok, so with that hype aside, and clearly it won't be quite that easy, is it a fair comment to say that this software WILL give you a serious head start and give you a much better chance of succeeding if you can at least see what is working for others? For example, I can see that with some of the keywords people are using for various campaigns, I would have been waaaaaaay off with the keywords I was going to use myself. Same goes for the google ad copy.

    One thing that contriditcts what they say to a degree, is you should try 10-20 campaigns a month...well, surely if they sat that this thing should make it easy and make 9 out of 10 successful, then that is a contradiction??

    Chris has said a few times that on the 23rd, he will make an offer we can't refuse, I wonder if he will waver the $2000 upfront cost of the version released in March, and make it purely a pay per month thing??

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  • Profile picture of the author GlenH
    WOW.....1080 posts here on this thread.

    Is that a record?

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    • Profile picture of the author msubmission
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      Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

      WOW.....1080 posts here on this thread.

      Is that a record?

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      • Profile picture of the author Yuma
        How do we know which countries the ads are targeting? I can't find an answer to this.

        Re the keyword numbers/search volume; I think Chris should have mentioned that these were Broad Match Types. Thus inflating/skewing the actual results, especially as he only uses Exact Match when showing ads. Couldn't he have this feature build-in the GCD dashboard?
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      • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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        Originally Posted by msubmission View Post

        yes sounds

        Yes May be.
        Another blatant affiliate link. Can you not add more to the conversation than "yes may be"? You're touting the tool - have you used it? What's your experience of it? Mister 15 posts from India.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bakai
    I am not about to read 1080 posts about any product, but will test out GCD myself with a couple new campaigns. I have signed up for the free trial offer and read the report but I am not going to bother with direct linking to the affiliate offer because I have tried that a couple times with search and placement with negative results. I am going to create review style landing pages that have worked for me in the past and just copy successful campaigns, bid high to begin with, then gradually lower.

    I found a couple "mid sized" niches to use for this test.
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    • Profile picture of the author phil.wheatley
      Yuma, the program targets the US for the main part, people in other countries such as UK (me) and Aus etc are told to use a proxy service to see what's happening in Google US to get accurate results.

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      • Profile picture of the author Yuma
        Originally Posted by phil.wheatley View Post

        Yuma, the program targets the US for the main part, people in other countries such as UK (me) and Aus etc are told to use a proxy service to see what's happening in Google US to get accurate results.

        Phil
        Thanks for the info on using a proxy for best results.

        Yuma.
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  • Profile picture of the author Avidpoet
    You can thank PPC Bully 2 for his cheap rates now. Wow! I feel sorry for the people who had to fork over all that money when they launched.
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  • Profile picture of the author scottty64
    So seems like someone over at support dont know what they are doing. This is the reply to my email I sent cause I was pissed that I paid $1000 to join and they come out with the $1 7 day trial offer.

    "Hi Terry

    Thank you for your email.

    Just to let you know, the 7 day trial is not a full version. It is very limited.
    They will have to buy into the plan with the same options that were offered to you.

    Have a great week!
    **************************
    Then Chris sends an email to everyone probably because of the ruckus in the forums over it, his email below...

    "Second, we just relaunched GCD, and I wanted to let you know
    about the new pricing options we offered to keep you in the loop.
    We offered GCD for $97 a month, but that only includes the basic
    search feature in GCD.

    The $97 a month does not include all of the extras that you have
    access to: the forums, the live webinars, the bonuses, GCA,
    the niche review templates membership, and the training videos.


    I just wanted to let you know so you didn't think that you got
    shafted. As a full access member, you have the best deal, and
    going forward, you will also receive discounts like the one
    I'm providing for the Reality PPC workshop."

    *************************************

    Something fishy no doubt...he says the new people will be limited by a basic search...well from what I am reading on the sales page the search will include Search by keyword, URL, ad, or landing page and Wildcard searches????

    How is that limited?? Thats all I can do with the search right now.

    He says they wont have access to GCA.....Whats that about? I dont have access to GCA..I have to pay extra for that if I want it.

    He says that wont have access to the training videos...thats crap as well because right on the sales page it states that they can "start watching high quality training videos and master the affiliate marketinggame" I believe somewhere around 160 hours of training videos was mentioned...if that is not having access I dont know what is.

    As far as not having access to the live webinars is concerned I just got an email yesterday about a live webinar schedualed for Thursday ...what do you think it was called
    "Get to know GCD for new members"

    The only thing that I can see them not getting is the access to Bobby walkers membership site for the niche review templates and possibly the forum which I doubt.

    Does Chris Carpenter really think that some of us are really that stupid. Maybe I was the stupid one for not getting out within the 30 day money back gaureentee.
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    • Profile picture of the author csm
      Originally Posted by scottty64 View Post

      The $97 a month does not include all of the extras that you have
      access to: the forums, the live webinars, the bonuses, GCA,
      the niche review templates membership, and the training videos
      Well, he's not telling the truth to someone, either his existing customers or those who took the free trial and now are getting the $1 trial plus $97 per month option.

      I did the 7-day free trial, and now the offer is for $1 for an additional 7 days, then $97 per month, access to the GCA for 30 days free, after which I can have that for $39.95 per month, and also included are a boatload of videos and training as bonuses (not sure if they are the same as the existing 'full' members get).

      From the payment page:

      QUOTE
      Well, I want to give you full access to the Google Cash Automator for FREE for the first 30 days, and then it's just a low $39.95 per month, and SSSSHHHHH. Don't tell my existing customers who paid $1,997 for lifetime access to the Automator. You are getting the exact same automation system for FREE for a full 30 days and then just $39.95 per month!
      END QUOTE

      There is no mention anywhere of this being a limited version, nor having to "buy up" to get additional features.

      I did the 7-day free trial just to see what it was (no credit card required), but won't be extending for the $1 extra 7 days and $97 per month thereafter.

      Susan
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      • Profile picture of the author Lothar Evers
        Originally Posted by csm View Post

        Well, he's not telling the truth to someone, either his existing customers or those who took the free trial and now are getting the $1 trial plus $97 per month option.
        I did the 7-day free trial just to see what it was (no credit card required), but won't be extending for the $1 extra 7 days and $97 per month thereafter
        When it comes to dishonesty:
        the original sales page with the huge upfront payment is still up:
        http://launch.gcdetective.com/_new_gcdorder2.html

        I found that out yesterday evening when looking in Google adwords. Some of the gurus are still promoting it. So we will see what the truth is, when the 7 day trial is over. I will subscribe and cancel because I want to have the original Google Cash Detective for free.
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        • Profile picture of the author Lothar Evers
          Originally Posted by Adv4less View Post

          Ok, I tried the 7 day trial just for the heck of it as this is getting better than Days of our dreary lives....is that still showing?

          Gawd, I must have too much time on my hands. :rolleyes:
          Did the same and had to go through 4 upsells. Where in bits and pieces They asked me for money from the upfront payment. There of course you realize that the GCD is not enough and it needs a much bigger knowledge to be successful.
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          • Profile picture of the author Lothar Evers
            When I try to reach the "forum" from inside the Google Cash Detective the upsell goes on:
            "The Google Cash Home Study course already contains a wealth of information based on my own experiences, (...) but I realize that my own particular perspective - is just one way of looking at this type of knowledge. (...)For that reason, I have put together an advanced training package for anyone that wants to take the Google Cash Detective to the next level. What I am about to reveal, is something that you should NOT just skip over...
            This is by far, the best addition to your membership. Period.
            You can watch hours of advanced training videos. You will be able to download dozens of audio files and pre-recorded training events and more ...
            PLUS, you will be given unlimited access to the Google Cash Detective Forum. This is a private, closely guarded, moderated discussion forum for Detectives. There are over 5,000 information packed posts in the forum.
            These are real people, like you and me - who are discussing the very best strategies to earn money using the Google Cash system, the Detective and the Automator software.
            Our forum has thousands of posts. You will find cutting edge information, tips, tricks, techniques and tactics inside, and you can ask as many questions as you want. In fact, we encourage it. You will never be left wondering "How" with this training package ...(...)

            This is by far, our most valuable, useful and impressive offer - and you should add it to your order today. This is literally a "No Brainer", and it was previously included in our $1997 package. But - you don't have to pay that! You get the same training package at a massive discount!

            You get it all for only a one-time payment of $297.

            But what if I know it all?
            Listen, I know there are some people who like to "work it out themselves". That is an admirable trait. In fact, I think we're all like that. Everyone likes to feel unique, and it's genuinely exciting to work something out for yourself...
            But the reality is - this is a business, and mistakes can be costly. Why not fast track your way to success, cut corners and reduce your trial and error? Earn more money, faster and feel good about it! This alone, can motivate you towards greater success, and the Google Cash community is here to support and nurture you. Don't miss this opportunity to join this elite Pay Per Click and Affiliate Marketing community."
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            • Profile picture of the author scottty64
              This is by far, our most valuable, useful and impressive offer - and you should add it to your order today. This is literally a "No Brainer", and it was previously included in our $1997 package. But - you don't have to pay that! You get the same training package at a massive discount!

              You get it all for only a one-time payment of $297.
              So Yesterday in Chris's email he says that we..(original members) would not get shafted because the $97 a month that new members would pay would not included certain things bla bla bla and that those of us who paid $1000 and more up front have revieved the best deal.

              And now his upsell is for $297 for the whole shabang....like what is with people lieing directly to you ...he must know that everything he says and does will get back to people.

              I mean come on...he can't even get his own story straight nor the stories of his so called support.
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              • Profile picture of the author Lothar Evers
                Originally Posted by scottty64 View Post

                And now his upsell is for $297 for the whole shabang....like what is with people lying directly to you ...he must know that everything he says and does will get back to people.
                There are evene higher upsells. I guess up to $700. I did not sort them Out, because I will ignore them anyhow.
                Cris makes clear:
                • the Detective is just a teaser...
                • his videos not mentioning these upsells were simplifying the issue.

                Wherever you click in the detective trial version:
                you end at the upsell.

                Just issued a support ticket for the long list of affiliate and CPA landing page url patterns that he showed in one of his presell videos.
                By the way If someone here can share it:
                please pm me.
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                • Profile picture of the author Avidpoet
                  Wow!! Chris must've paid a ton of money to have The Detective made or his server bill is threw the roof. I cant believe it has come to all this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Honestly just forget about GCD and look into other alternatives like PPC Bully, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author scottty64
      I wish I could just 4get GCD seens how I had put a big chunck of money into it, it is just not easy to just forget about right now. I am just so sick of the lies, the broken promises and dishonesty and quite frankly it is helping to vent right now lol. And seen as how if I tried posting this stuff in the GCD forum it would probably get deleted before it ever reached the forum pages...talking negative about gcd is not allowed...lmao

      As far as PPC Bully ...thanks but no thanks...how does the saying go....fool me once shame on you...fool me twice shame on me. I wouldnt touch that one with a 10 foot pole because from what I have read so far it will be just like GCD ...3 months time I will probably get in for a dollar as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    scottty64 in that case I stand corrected as I haven't read the reviews of PPC Bully. It doesn't surprise me too much though since behind all of these products is an idea that is too good to be true.

    In any case I don't blame you for venting.. if I didn't finally get my refund I don't know what I would've done.
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    • Profile picture of the author scottty64
      no problem yusuf. I do have to say though I wasnt really complaining about the product itself becuase I still think that it will be useful once I figure it out...even though to date for me to make $200 I am spending $1,000 to make it. The complaints are more directed to the lies and dishonesty...but I am learning thats all part and parcel of being a so called guru these days...not everyone is like that I am sure but I have yet to find an honest one in 5 years.
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        • Profile picture of the author sandangel
          Originally Posted by Adv4less View Post

          It just keeps getting better by the hour!!! I just got an email from the PPC Bully cowboys offering me the "full" version of PPC Bully 2.0 for a 7 day trial for only $9.95!!!!! Whoaaa!!

          But wait, there's more....if I sign up for the 7 day trial for $9.95 I get $10,000 of free bonuses to keep!!!! Even if I dont buy PPC Bully 2.0 at the end of the 7 day trial!!!

          Man, I'm creaming my pants here!!!!

          FOR GODS SAKE, enough is enough!!! Stop treating us like idiots!!

          GCD and PPC Bully have both failed in their hyped up over priced attempt to screw the market and now they are desperatley trying anything and everything to get in the last few dollars before everyone wakes up.

          Had these idiot, so called Guru's simply offered the product at $49/month they probably would have thousands of subscribers and an enormous income stream. Instead they went for the big kill and all they got was a big flop.
          LMAO!! Thanks for the laugh. So true in what you said above. I almost bought into GCD but thank god, the Warrior Forum saved me a bundle of money and much un-needed stress! This is a wonderful forum and I'm so thankful that I found it!

          Sandangel
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    • Profile picture of the author Avidpoet
      Originally Posted by Ramsey Ace View Post

      Hey Google Cash Detective is not a scam. It has some nice cool features of spying on other people profitable adwords campaign. It should cost hundreds if not thousands for this spying tool. Chris Carpenter is legit, he is also known as the pioneer of direct linking in adwords.
      Alright Ive had just about enough!! Who let the Bot in here lol.. Either a Bot just posted that or someone had a gun to there head and was reading a scripted message
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  • Profile picture of the author dr nelton
    Can someone tell me what's the meaning of the word Internet Marketing for a so call Guru.? Dishonesty? Ambition?, or they probably think that we are stupid?

    Dr Nelton
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Really.. is it me or have all of these emails and offers from the gurus and their JVs become a bit embarrassing to say the least? Though I guess if everyone keeps falling for it then we can expect for it to get even more outrageous.
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      • Profile picture of the author 4runner
        Yep, the over-hyped bonuses and launches are definitely getting crazy. The JV prizes for one of the recent launches included a car in addition to the commissions... The next top affiliates got hefty cash prizes in addition to the commissions... So in a way, the bonuses have now shifted from what the end customer gets, but what the JV Partners get! "Gurus" are enticing JV's to promote their products the same way affiliates are trying to win the purchase from the end customer... it's kind of nutty.

        Anyway, the purpose of this thread was initially to discuss GCD and it sure has evolved into something a LOT bigger than that. Now PPC Bully and basically any affiliate launch these days can essentially be referenced. However, I do have to provide disclosure (as I always do when I am promoting something) that I do in fact use PPC Bully 2.0 and DID use GCD previously. When affiliates are promoting products that they know nothing about and are purely after the sale with absolutely no regard for the end customer, that is a big problem and one of downfalls of the internet marketing world at large.

        Yes, I promoted PPC Bully as an affiliate and I did offer a bonus. I formed a mastermind group with the 6 people that purchased through my link and the point was to have a group of like minded people get the best use out of the tool - I called it my "anti-bonus". The rule of our group is no pitches within the group, and nobody is allowed to buy anymore tools or systems or whatever else is coming down the pipe. IF people want to discuss something new, we talk about it as a group and we draw on each others experience to look at it without the "hype and lure of bonuses". The point is, I believe (and my members believe) that my "anti-bonus" actually provides some added value DIRECTLY related to their PPC Bully 2.0 purchase because that's all we focus on. I didn't offer them a bunch of OTHER products and bogus PLR materials and EVERYBODY who bought it was invited to join my group. I talk to them on the phone, we are planning our own conference calls to share success and failures, and unlike the typical "vendor membership forums", there isn't 1,500 people asking how to setup a content network campaign... or is an opening campaign budget of $5.00 enough... Besides, the guru behind the forum is too busy pitching the next product or skiing in Switzerland or wherever to bother helping you anyway...

        I believe I am accountable and responsible to the customer for what they bought through my link and I will whatever I can to help them with the knowledge that I have and if there is stuff that I can't answer, as a group - we figure it out. How many affiliate products have you bought from a "guru" that gave you a bonus, and then you never heard from them again - not even a "how are you making out with the product I just sold you for 2k - hope you are doing well with it..." Instead, it's "hey, so and so is launching blah blah blah, you better get on it quick as they're shutting the doors in 10 hours"....

        Anyway, yet another long rant - but I believe there ARE some vendors out there who do have some integrity along with the JV's that promote their products, but you definitely have to do some REAL research into what you're buying and from who... I have nothing but great things to say about Emil and Yefi and Ran over at PPC Bully, and despite what everyone may say about the hype and their launch tactics - their intentions were definitely not to mislead anyone and do anything dishonourably. They aren't forcing you to buy the product, they aren't obligated to offer you anything beyond the product itself - so if you DID buy it and you feel robbed in some way, you can obviously just ask for your refund. At least you got to try it and see if it worked for your needs. If the guys in my mastermind aren't having any success with it, I will also ask them to return it as I wouldn't feel right if they kept it - that's the mandate - everyone has to see some success and really focus on using it - and more importantly, give themselves a chance to be successful with it, without distraction and have others to help along the way. I think that's a valuable "bonus".

        I'll let everyone know how the folks in our mastermind are progressing.

        cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author truthspace
    I've been reading this thread with Pink Floyd on in the background so bizarre hahaha shiattt !! the irony wow I love this forum and almost got sucked in as well... and as a newbie I would have lost my ass... and what's up with Chris's lower jaw when he talks kinda spooky... ;-)
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      • Profile picture of the author snapper
        Just goes to show that having marketing skills can be very lucrative.

        It would seem that CC had massive problems with GCD1, but went away tweaked the product and then put his marketing skills to work and created a huge buzz. I don't think anyone could deny that there was a tremendous amount of hype prior to the second launch. There may have been the wise old heads sitting back waiting till after the launch, but there was also a massive amount of customers beating at the door prior to launch.

        Once again the product did not live up to expectations...but will that be the end of CC marketing career - I don't think so.

        He will wait a couple of years, most of the ho-ha will have died down and he will create a massive amount of hype for a new product - and do it all again.

        Once again there will be the knockers, but in a sense they will be the voice of one crying in the desert because the good marketer appeals to a potential customers sense of greed, hope and all of that stuff and will once again create a pre-sale hysteria.

        Who wins out of all this...the marketer and JV's.

        There will be those who say 'he has done his dash this time' just like there would have been those who said the exact same thing after the launch of GC1. People forget, new people arrive on the block that want to believe the 'new' product will change their life yada yada yada. I would back it in that CC will create another product that
        will rival the launch of GC2.

        Will I be waiting at the front of the line...no - but he knows that he can find lots of people that will wait in the line and plonk their hard earned into his wallet.

        He is a marketer and a darn good one at that. Maybe he needs to learn the back-end skills.
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        • Profile picture of the author truthspace
          So do you guys think that if the product is alright... and if followed properly and not just copying what he did on his videos and getting all crazy when it doesn't make you money - I mean he really didn't want you to copy his example he was showing in the first place... then it could be a really cool intelligence tool? and at the current price could be an ok deal to at least give it a whirl... or should we just get another intelligence tool like PPC Kahuna Elite which has not gotten a bad review on this forum to date. Also coupled with that using MSN's: Detecting Online Commercial Intention tool in adlabs is cool for finding "buying keyword" research... so what do you guys think? :p
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        • Profile picture of the author Lothar Evers
          Originally Posted by snapper View Post

          He is a marketer and a darn good one at that. Maybe he needs to learn the back-end skills.
          Meanwhile I even doubt that. With this "over promise under deliver approach" he already has destroyed trust that he build offer a long period of time.
          The latest:
          the Google Cash Course I am buying is (in many episodes) the replay of the overpromising marketing videos we have seen before the initial (re)launch in April:
          Cris surfing on the beach, skiing in Alaska under important headlines like:
          "My Story, the promise, 7 Steps to financial freedom, How to work efficiently, Productivity and efficiency at your computer.
          Other, more relevant ones like "Set up your adwords campaign" and track your results will not be published before the 7th or even 14th or 20th of July, long after the free trial. Nothing mentioned of this weekly release technique in the initial offer.
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          • Profile picture of the author truthspace
            Originally Posted by decologne View Post

            Meanwhile I even doubt that. With this "over promise under deliver approach" he already has destroyed trust that he build offer a long period of time.
            The latest:
            the Google Cash Course I am buying is (in many episodes) the replay of the overpromising marketing videos we have seen before the initial (re)launch in April:
            Cris surfing on the beach, skiing in Alaska under important headlines like:
            "My Story, the promise, 7 Steps to financial freedom, How to work efficiently, Productivity and efficiency at your computer.
            Other, more relevant ones like "Set up your adwords campaign" and track your results will not be published before the 7th or even 14th or 20th of July, long after the free trial. Nothing mentioned of this weekly release technique in the initial offer.
            It's like the old "bait and switch" tactic used by some shady people in the mortgage industry... ahhh it seems endless doesn't it....
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    • Profile picture of the author sandangel
      Originally Posted by truthspace View Post

      I've been reading this thread with Pink Floyd on in the background so bizarre hahaha shiattt !! the irony wow I love this forum and almost got sucked in as well... and as a newbie I would have lost my ass... and what's up with Chris's lower jaw when he talks kinda spooky... ;-)
      OMG!!! What a good laugh I got out of reading your post! Too funny! Almost feels like I was there with ya, LMAO!

      Sand
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      • Profile picture of the author 4runner
        Although it is very apparent there are a lot of frustrated people here, I think people need to take a deep breath and not get too carried away with "accusations" of the vendors' and their marketing methods. Just do some due diligence when presented with these "shiny presentations" and try to differentiate the facts from the riff-raff personal attacks.

        Having said that, I hope those of you that requested your refund got it promptly and without incident since there were obviously a lot of people asking for refunds.

        Anyway, when it comes to purchasing tools and being "sold the dream", keep in mind that Chris or Emil or whoever didn't put a gun to your head to buy their tool - I used GCD and I didn't like it, so I got my refund. I chose to use PPC Bully instead and it works great for my needs because it has better filtering and exporting capability over GCD - end of story. I've launched multiple campaigns, profited from a few of them and dug up some interesting markets I wouldn't have been exposed to if it hadn't been for the tool. Just remember, it's a TOOL - simple as that. How YOU use the tool will yield different results based on your knowledge, persistance, budget, etc etc. The reason behind a failed campaign are more likely caused by a flawed bid strategy or your landing pages sucked or you had zero adwords history - not because the tool didn't expose a profitable keyword and ad. Blaming the tool (and Chris or Emil etc etc) is like blaming your pen you didn't pass an exam. So what if the pen was an $800 Montblanc? If you didn't study or understand what the subject matter was before you sat down to write the test (launch your campaign), you can't expect the pen to do "ALL" the work - and just because many others use the same pen and manage to pass with flying colors doesn't mean someone else will have the same success. The point is, don't blame the pen - learn the subject matter.
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        • Profile picture of the author WPExpert
          Originally Posted by 4-runner View Post

          Blaming the tool (and Chris or Emil etc etc) is like blaming your pen you didn't pass an exam. So what if the pen was an $800 Montblanc?
          I think I get the point you are trying to make but that analogy just doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Mont Blanc don't claim their pen will make you independently wealthy (or pass exams), only that it will write; unlike Chris, who's claims went far beyond his or his software's ability to deliver.

          Also, the idea that people weren't forced to buy is not a 'get out of jail free' card you can use instead of basic honesty or integrity in marketing.

          My gut feeling is that, even in the IM world where truth and fiction are so often transposed, Chris's launch of GCD was a cynical attempt to part as many noobs as possible from significant amounts of cash, and from that point of view I think it can be said he is a 'successful' marketer.

          I would not sleep easy in Mexico if I was him though.
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          • Profile picture of the author Yuma
            I also disliked the fact that the GCD forum was heavily moderated. Every single post I made had to be cleared.

            This really, I feel, stopped everybody (esp. the noobs) getting an answer in a timely manner.

            Did anyone sign-up for the PPC Reality course? I got as far as week 4 (out of week 6), and simply found it a waste of time. They has a so called seasoned IM guru called Jeremy Wilson who was trying to promote spam software. In week 4, he thought that it wasn't worth pursuing & just realised that most software are used for a trial period (i.e. 7,14,30 days), so even if he did make a sale, he wouldn't see the results for awhile (which was dumb for a 6-week GCD course).

            I just feel he didn't do his homework before diving into a competive market.:rolleyes:

            Anyway, got my full refund (in writing anyway). Just hope I really get it. Otherwise I'm booking a cheap flight to Mexico, and it isn't for catching waves.
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            • Profile picture of the author WPExpert
              Originally Posted by Yuma View Post

              I also disliked the fact that the GCD forum was heavily moderated. Every single post I made had to be cleared.
              Yes, I found that part particularly annoying, not only because it slowed down the whole self-help idea of the forum, but because it was clearly a form of censorship on their part. Nothing the least bit derogatory to GCD or Chris got through. I know, because I tried on several occasions to make truthful, but none the less not particularly flattering, comments about the way the whole thing was being run. We were all treated like we were, well, just kids I suppose, even though we had paid a substantial chunk of pocket change to be there.

              Google Cash Detective -- great marketing, you can learn a lot from Chris, but the product itself is outdated, a poor concept poorly executed, buggy and incomplete. Or at least it was when I was there some 4 months ago.

              If its of any consolation, if you are within the terms of the guarantee, you WILL get your refund. At least, I did.

              Good luck!
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            • Profile picture of the author phd2000
              Originally Posted by Yuma View Post

              I also disliked the fact that the GCD forum was heavily moderated. Every single post I made had to be cleared.

              This really, I feel, stopped everybody (esp. the noobs) getting an answer in a timely manner.

              Did anyone sign-up for the PPC Reality course? I got as far as week 4 (out of week 6), and simply found it a waste of time. They has a so called seasoned IM guru called Jeremy Wilson who was trying to promote spam software. In week 4, he thought that it wasn't worth pursuing & just realised that most software are used for a trial period (i.e. 7,14,30 days), so even if he did make a sale, he wouldn't see the results for awhile (which was dumb for a 6-week GCD course).

              I just feel he didn't do his homework before diving into a competive market.:rolleyes:

              Anyway, got my full refund (in writing anyway). Just hope I really get it. Otherwise I'm booking a cheap flight to Mexico, and it isn't for catching waves.
              I went all the way to the end of this pain-full GCD-PPC" Reality Bootcamp, Chris said this was Jeremy's $700 training. This was a "professional failure" desaster that dragged on for 6 weeks. It took 6 weeks, hours of time, & $1000 loss to pull the plug - FAIL FAST???? I asked for a refund, they said it was only for the first week.
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  • Profile picture of the author bbyau
    Also for PPC Classroom 2 members, we are supposed to get Google Cash 4 for free. That has been in the bonus section for months until Google Cash 4 just came out (?). But this does not seems to be true now. CC seems to be over promising but not delivering.
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    • Profile picture of the author David.M
      Would you guys say that this "gurus" reputation has been tarnished beyond repair?


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  • Profile picture of the author 2Quick
    Ramsey Ace, I have to strongly disagree! Chris C. is definately not legit! When GCD first came out, or even before it was out, there was an offer for 30 people to be working with him one on one. I got the message from the Google Shadow guy.
    I watched Chris's video about this one on one mentoring and jumped on it very cheaply. I felt so lucky to have gotten early notice and to have gotten through the purchase phase. a few days later I am wondering why his page and video are still up. Getting suspicious, I told a friend online something does not smell too good here. I emailed Chris and he always got right back to me. So this told me he was not too busy or swamped with emails, like some business owners are and have to hire someone or many people to handle it all.
    He got back to me always right off, but.....he sidestepped and never answered point blank my questions about this one on one stuff. He would just point me to one of the videos in his back office or an audio from some lady or a british guy.

    There was never any one on one coaching at all. And just like with many of these Guru's products, you still have to fight and struggle with Keyword bidding, Ad copy, tracking and tweaking and all the stuff that gets in the way of success.

    I had never heard of him before getting that email from Google Shadow people, but once I got involved with GCD, he started sending me tons of offers from other Guru's and partners.

    Now I was on his list and that is all he was ever after in the first place.

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  • Profile picture of the author phil.wheatley
    You guys are funny :-) I know you will flame me for this but if you spent as much time using it as to did sitting on this forum posting about it, you might be making some money. With what I learn just from his blog during the 7 day free trial, I have gone from one sale per week on a product, to two salels a day. I have also since launched a small clickbank campaign which made a profit in the first day by using keywords from somebody else's campaign (not just ripping off their ads I might add).

    So, don't take this the wrong way, I used to be the same, but learnt that if you just go and use the bl**dy thing, you can do very well. I couldn't care less if I'm forced into the continuity, if you're gonna sign up for something, do it properly with commitment or don't bother at all. I can appreciate that some of the launch tactics regarding prices and stuff has been a bit..ummm....odd, shall we say, but at the end of the day, the tool is great and if used properly, worth a 1000 times the cost.

    As for being too afraid to reply, I would suspect it is becasuse he has much better things to do like sitting on the beach and having a cold beer rather than j**king off in this thread.

    Thanks,
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  • Profile picture of the author phil.wheatley
    Language!! he he Ok, well, fair enough, but I guess at the end of the day, he is a marketer and wants to make money, so to a degree, I take my hat off to him.

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    • Profile picture of the author scottty64
      So, don't take this the wrong way, I used to be the same, but learnt that if you just go and use the bl**dy thing, you can do very well.
      It has been confirmed by poll after poll that more than the majority of people that are using gcd are losing money not making money with it. I have spent countless hours and have watched and rewatched video after video, started dozens of campaings and tweaked and retweaked them till they were tweaked out, even using the expertise of the person I joined under who promised to have me earning at least $500 a month if I joined under them. I attended the live seminars, I use direct linking as well as have built landing page after landing page and I have spent now in the thousands of dollars on ad costs and other miscellaneous stuff.

      So before you go off and make that kind of statement to go and just use the bloody thing maybe you should go back and read some of the posts from people who actually did use the bloody thing. I dont just sit on my ass posting to forums cause I have nothing else to do. I am trying to be successful with gcd. Obviously I am not doing something right.

      We...meaning the "original" people who paid a shit load of money to get in were promised we would have everthing needed to be successful with gcd and that we would'nt have to buy other things to go with it. 3 months later my mailbox is being filled with this great offer and that great offer from chris carpenter for gcd stuff.

      Case in point...there is a thread in the gcd forum which is asking what do we want to see as future bonus' with gcd. The majority of those who responed had asked that we have a step by step videos of someone starting a new campaign from start to finish. Meaning we see how they are researching the product they will use, what key words they pick etc etc everything from start to finish and on the fly. So now 3 months later we get an email from mr chris that they have put together videos of exactly that. Only problem is...they want to charge us $100 to have access to them...what the F&%$ is that about. You ask us what we want as a bonus and you make it available BUT for a price...thats not a freaking bonus its just another way for them to fatten their alreally fat bank accounts.

      I too thought I had a good campaign going when I first used gcd, in fact I got 4 sales the same day I put the campaign up and thought I hit the jackpot. 3 months later I never got another sale from that campaign and spent well over $600 to make about $95. So I wouldnt be celebrating just quite yet on your all of a sudden 2 sales a day victory from using a 7 day trial, it can end in a heartbeat and cost you thousands.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Language!! he he Ok, well, fair enough, but I guess at the end of the day, he is a marketer and wants to make money, so to a degree, I take my hat off to him.

      Phil
      You take your hat off to him!!!Remind me never to buy anything from you or on your recommendation then. Have you even bothered to read right through this thread? There are a LOT of angry punters here. And we're not all raw newbies. And the reason we're bothering to post is that we are REALLY ANGRY about this whole thing. This whole MISREPRESENTATION - look it up.
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      • Profile picture of the author scottty64
        Thats exactly right decologne, everytime they do a poll more and more people are saying they are not making any money but losing it big time I am sure. It was good seeing the email from chris the other day saying they done up those new videos for us on starting a campaigne from scratch etc etc...and then the big disapointment right after reading that our bonus was not really a bonus after all and if we wanted to see the whole thing we better cough up another $100. Yes they showed the first video as a teaser for free and I have to say it was really good and I totally liked it but I'll be damned if I was going to fork out another $100 when the stupid thing should be part and parcel of the course. It's friggin training videos..it should be part of the program without any charge.
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        • Profile picture of the author Adv4less
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          • Profile picture of the author scottty64
            lol come to think of it...hmmm
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        • Profile picture of the author Lothar Evers
          Originally Posted by scottty64 View Post

          Thats exactly right decologne, everytime they do a poll more and more people are saying they are not making any money but losing it big time I am sure.
          The longer I look at this launch I realize that Cris -and most other sellers- have one product and one product only:
          "get rich quick!"
          In case of PPC Bully and GCD with a twist: watch at your competitor. To copy him is easy.
          While it is never wrong to watch the competition, the second part: copying is easy is where the lie starts. In real life -and it is no difference here the competition has the advantage of being in the market already. In case of PPC: has better click through rates and lower Costs per click. Maybe if you are Cris Carpenter it is easy to outbit every competitor in just topping his bids. But this is no strategy for an under capitalized newbie.
          There is a second problem:
          with tools like PPC bully and GCD more and more buyers compete for the same keywords. And the prices do what they are supposed to do in the case: go up. So the suggestion "if a campaign has been successful in March it must be successful nowadays too" is wrong too. Probably with less competition in March the costs per click than today when everybody and their dog are bitting for the same keywords.
          An example, researched this morning:
          the most popular fat loss product on clickbank is Fatloss4idiots. GCD shows 231 urls. with *4idiots* in it. And there might be many more directing to landing pages that include "4idiots". There will be many more promoting this product with different urls. This are simple to many urls. and their owners bidding for the same keywords.
          When a gold rush is simplified and the masses come: run away or: sell shovels. GCD is just another shovel. The hard work to dig gold is not done by the shovel or its seller. It is up to us. And the best wasy to do it is:
          discover a new (or at least: less known) mine!
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            • Profile picture of the author scottty64
              thats insane...I'm glad I will never fall into that trap again.
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            • Profile picture of the author Lothar Evers
              Originally Posted by Adv4less View Post

              God, I really do need to get a life and stop posting comments on these dork, crap touting marketing misfits and their over hyped spy tools.
              Same with me! Sp just for the record: I cancelled my GCG Membership yesterday on the 6th day of my $ 1 Membership. I used their support system inside GCD. Took a srennshot with date and time, just in case. Had a confirmation by Cris`s Team within two hours and my access was locked. Now lets hope that they not only cancelled that but my re billing too.
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  • Profile picture of the author phil.wheatley
    Hi Scotty

    I take your points on board ok and I can understand where you're coming from. I have been reading the posts for a couple of weeks as I thought I too was goin to have to pay a grand or two for the product.

    The point I was trying to make was some people just spend a lot of time slagging people or systems off instead of trying to make it work, I'm sure you're not one of those. I don't doubt that many are not making money with the system, but this also happens with many systems, they simply don't do what is asked or expect too much without making investments in PPC.

    Could it be that many are just trying to use GCD as shown in some of the main videos...i.e, find high gravity clickbank product, clone the ads, keywords, and expect to make money. Yes, maybe they have mislead people, because anybody should know that won't happen because everybody else is doing the same thing. I on the other hand, have used the information that GCD provides, and make money in areas that everybody else ISN'T looking at...just takes some thinking out the box. For example, I have my own product in a niche, so I used keywords from GCD which was promoting a product in the same niche and used those for my own campaign, and have increase my sales dramatically.

    I do agree though that asking you to pay extra for that bonus video is a bit off, especially after the money you spent...so fair enough on that one.

    ...but what I have learnt, is a lot of energy can be wasted flaming in forums when it simply isn't going to achieve anything, time could be better spent on doing something to add to your business.

    ....haha, I say that and then here I am on this forum, oh well.

    People buy these products because they think it's a push button system that will magically make them money...but as I'm sure you know, it will always take work one way or another.

    Phil
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      • Profile picture of the author Lothar Evers
        Originally Posted by Adv4less View Post

        Its how most of us on here feel. I have given my fair share if critiscm on this thread for both PPC bully and GCD. And, yes, I have used both extensivley and yes, I have NOT made any real money from using these products and yes, I have not come accross anyone that has!! Except those JVing with the cowboys at PPC Bully and GCD. (...)
        PPC Bully and GCD are simply not what they are hyped to be....just damn good research tools.
        The gripe on this thread is how these guru's have sold the spy products on baseless promises and bogus bonuses.
        well said and they know it:
        I have attached a screenshot of a poll taken at the GCD training this morning:
        A failure for most of the participants.
        It looks like a sellout:
        to many affiliates competing for the business
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  • Profile picture of the author bbyau
    I went for the free 7 days trial with "no obligation" (no cc details). Luckily did not continue to the $1 trial with so called bonuses.
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  • Profile picture of the author bpetric
    I have cancelled my GCD membership as well and have got their confirmation that my credit card will be credited in few days. However I was only reimbursed a partial amount and not full as agreed. After several emails and no reaction from these guys I have filed for FRAUD with my credit card company. BTW, I am in Switzerland.
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    • Profile picture of the author dr nelton
      Originally Posted by bpetric View Post

      I have cancelled my GCD membership as well and have got their confirmation that my credit card will be credited in few days. However I was only reimbursed a partial amount and not full as agreed. After several emails and no reaction from these guys I have filed for FRAUD with my credit card company. BTW, I am in Switzerland.
      Look if you didn't sing for some of the up sell they have when you canceled , one of the then said that you are going to be charge half of the $97 for a light membership if you try it for 30 days.
      I also try this product and canceled for a personal reason, but I found the material and the software very good,I will recommended .
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      • Profile picture of the author kab1973
        Seems like there are a lot of disgruntled users of GCD. I have had access to it since the beta launch and do have to agree that there are a lot of hiccups in the system. That dreaded "No URL Info Found" comes to mind.

        While I'm not heavy into PPC at the moment, I use the tool to quickly look at what offers certain marketers are using on specific keywords using the SlideShow feature. I can then use this info to build an organic search site around if I want.

        I use it on occassion to see what's working for the PPC to Affiliate/CPA crowd. I can then use this info to come up with my own ideas for other types of marketing that's out there. Because if people are using it for PPC and if it's been up there for any length of time then it's an indicator that it should be working. Not always, but at least it's better then starting from ground zero.

        Maybe someday I'll get heavy into PPC, but to be honest I've never had that much success with it. Just don't have deep enough pockets to find winning all the winning campaigns, I guess.

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        • Profile picture of the author 4runner
          Originally Posted by kab1973 View Post

          Seems like there are a lot of disgruntled users of GCD. I have had access to it since the beta launch and do have to agree that there are a lot of hiccups in the system. That dreaded "No URL Info Found" comes to mind.

          While I'm not heavy into PPC at the moment, I use the tool to quickly look at what offers certain marketers are using on specific keywords using the SlideShow feature. I can then use this info to build an organic search site around if I want.

          I use it on occassion to see what's working for the PPC to Affiliate/CPA crowd. I can then use this info to come up with my own ideas for other types of marketing that's out there. Because if people are using it for PPC and if it's been up there for any length of time then it's an indicator that it should be working. Not always, but at least it's better then starting from ground zero.

          Maybe someday I'll get heavy into PPC, but to be honest I've never had that much success with it. Just don't have deep enough pockets to find winning all the winning campaigns, I guess.

          -Keith
          Yep, that's exactly what I've been doing Keith. After finding what others have been doing, I build out an actual site and then run PPC to the site afterwards and Google gives it their blessing in terms of quality score... Direct linking with PPC is just too finnicky - I'm sure those who have deeeeep pockets can test and test and test and make it work, but I prefer a much more methodical due diligence process other than relying on ONLY how long others have been advertising on a keyword.
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          • Profile picture of the author scottty64
            Seems like there are a lot of disgruntled users of GCD
            From what I hear theres more and more everyday..but that not too surprising anymore.
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            • Profile picture of the author Graphix Guru
              Guys (and Gals), all I can say is...

              Thank Gawd I didn't fall for this pile of sh*t too.

              I seriously debated going further into debt to get GCD after the debacle that was Arbitrage Conspiracy. In fact, the thought even crossed my mind: "Well, you got the money back from AC. Maybe you should spend it on GCD."

              My hardening cynicism won the day, I'm very glad to say.

              Thanks to everybody on this thread for telling it how it really is. I will add Chris Carpenter's name to my ever-expanding list of so-called "g-u-r-u-s" who are actually dirtbags, and move on...

              Stay frosty, people!

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              • Profile picture of the author wkriski
                Rather than bash the creator, we could focus on debating whether this sort of data works - ie. do ads that run for months indicate a successful campaign? If not, what other ways could success be determined?

                For example, if you know that an affiliate product is selling (high gravity, etc) than it's really a matter of having a converting sales page and getting appropriate traffic to the page. Most likely you will create a page and either not get enough traffic (due to high cost of clicks, etc) or you won't get the sales (poor copy, etc). Then after you've burned through a bunch of adwords cash, you will likely give up on this idea.

                And secondly, if you believe in this approach, you could always take screenshots each week/month of search results pages for the keywords in your niche and see which ads are running over time. If you're browsing for hot niches and jumping around from one idea to another, you're probably never going to make any money or build a real business.
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  • Profile picture of the author moneyslayer
    Holy crap! Thanks for the info on this friggin scam you guys...
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    • Profile picture of the author sandangel
      Yes, a scam indeed!!! I am soooo glad that I learned about all of this before I ever gave out my credit card info! I am sickened that Chris Carpenter can get away with ripping innocent people off!!!

      I would have fell for this if I had not spent hours upon hours researching Chris Carpenter. It amazes me as well as disgusts me that he has ripped people off over and over with the same line of excuses and bu!!shit for years now. Where is the justice in all of this?? Yeah, makes me wonder why Chris Carpenter lives in Mexico now. I do live in Mexico, but not because I screw people, but because my heart is here.

      I am soooo thankful that this forum exist and that I found it and that I'm a part of it!!

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      • Profile picture of the author thezone
        Originally Posted by sandangel View Post

        Yes, a scam indeed!!! I am soooo glad that I learned about all of this before I ever gave out my credit card info! I am sickened that Chris Carpenter can get away with ripping innocent people off!!!

        Sandangel
        People who were unable to get their money back would be better off filing a chargeback for fraudulent claims for any non-refunded money (including the monthly fee).

        A lot of these type of "programs" really only make their money on so called 'non-refundable' monthly fees (and those individuals who can't be bothered attempting to get their money back). That is why they don't really give a shit about those "big purchase price numbers" or paying IM'ers big commission to sell these products as they make more in residuals and monthly then anything else.

        However, if the "software" purchased will only "function" with access to data which is based on monthly fees (and you may even "agree" to the fact that the monthly fees are not refundable), the fee is refundable as long as the program is being returned on a money back guarantee, because it does not live up to any claims they used to sell it, that would be considered "unjust enrichment".

        Anyone who does not attempt to get their money back, fund whoever is behind this and allow them to do it again. Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised if this guy has been and continues to be nothing more then a shill (sorry but I did see one (well part of one before I had to stop) of his videos, and this guy appears to have a limited intellectual capacity).
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        • Profile picture of the author truthspace
          Originally Posted by thezone View Post

          Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised if this guy has been and continues to be nothing more then a shill (sorry but I did see one (well part of one before I had to stop) of his videos, and this guy appears to have a limited intellectual capacity).
          That is the best, funniest, descriptive, awesomeness thing I've read on this guy yet: "limited intellectual capacity" hahahaha love it !!! so true... ahhh god thank you... (it's killing me softly)

          PS: Let's have someone go down to his little Casa de Mexico and see what he's up to... we know where he is from his Google Earth zoom down video he gave us... and what his pad looks like... let's go say "hello" and pick some fruit and play on his computer and have him show us how he does what he does...hahahaha "Goober" X 1000000.... :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author diggy20
    I bought PPC Bully 2 and I tried the trial of GCD2 and I agree that both are worthless. I can't believe the hype those products got. Lucky for me I was able to get my money back on PPC Bully 2.
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  • Profile picture of the author rojo
    I did not get the reality course and I agree that the moderated forum its somewhat weird, but Google Cash Detective its a rock solid tool.

    They are smart enough to let people decide for themselves, its only 1 dollar for the trial.

    My 2c
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  • Profile picture of the author Rappaport
    I was extremely dissatisfied with this product, its "services", and the promised made to sell it.
    I was not given a refund and I was not permitted to a charge back.
    I was outside of the 30 days to decide.
    It took me more than 30 days to fully scruntize the product and determine that it didn't work and that I didn't like it.
    But, I paid-in $1600.
    Because it took me 40 days to decide, does that justify keeping $1600 for something that didn't work?
    Apparently so.
    I was able to do everything I needed to do for free inside Google.
    GCD charged me a ton and didn't do 1/3 of what Google did for bupkis.
    There has got to be a remedy here.
    The whole notion of "Oh, well. It's been more than 30 days. It doesn't matter if it doesn't work, you lose your money." doesn't sit well with me in principle or in the wallet.
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    • Profile picture of the author entrepenerd
      That's too bad that you're out your money, but I have to say that it's not really the fault of the GCD crew. They were very up front about the return policy from the beginning. It sounds like you had concerns about the product fulfilling your needs to begin with and should have spent the appropriate amount of time to "fully scrutinize" the product earlier on.

      Sorry to say I can't support you on this one, but the onus was on you to make your decision before the 30 days was up. That's the way these things work. I DID get a refund on GCD without any issue because I made up my mind before the 30 days was up that it was not going to do what I wanted it to.

      Good luck in future endeavors, but try not to hold a grudge on this one. Mark it up to a lesson learned.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rappaport
        So you feel, that if a product doesn't work as described, you should have to still pay for it based on a time frame?
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        • Profile picture of the author entrepenerd
          Originally Posted by Rappaport View Post

          So you feel, that if a product doesn't work as described, you should have to still pay for it based on a time frame?
          I feel that if you buy a product with the expectation to try it out and are aware of the limited time you have to do so and fail to do so, then you have no right to complain about having to pay for it. I felt that 30 days was a sufficient time to evaluate the product and make a buying decision if you were going to do so. I feel that it's unreasonable of you to expect that you should have an unlimited amount of time to decide if you're happy with a purchase or not. If you didn't think you were going to spend the first 30 days proactively evaluating the software, then you shouldn't have agreed to purchase in the first place. If the return period was unclear, or you had mislead, I'd be 100% behind you. But, in this case, you just didn't spend enough time evaluating the software and that leaves you holding the bag.

          You need to keep in mind that there were many people involved in the launch of GCD and many needed to get paid for their efforts. I think it's unreasonable to expect Chris to hold off on paying those people their commissions because you might want to return the product well after the return period has expired.

          What I would recommend is that you actually use the product to your advantage now and make so much money that the $1600 is inconsequential.
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          • Profile picture of the author Rappaport
            I completely disagree with you.
            But that wasn't the question.
            The question was if you feel you should still have to pay for something if it doesn't work because some time frame has passed.
            You have no idea how proactive I was.
            You also assume that I should care who Chris has to pay for what.
            All I care about as a paying customer is whether or not I was sold a bill of goods and if my money was well-spent, justified, and worthwhile or not.
            For you to actually state, with any level of assurity, that I did or did not spend enough time evaluating the "product", as if you can comment on that or possibly know if I did or didn't, tells me that your opinion, while your's to state, is not one that I can consider having any credibility.
            And I don't mean that as a personal "gotcha", or anything like that, because I don't know you at all, I'm just saying that what you have had to say about this issue hasn't impacted or changed my stance at all, which is fine.
            I'm glad you got your money back.
            I'm not glad that I haven't.
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            • Profile picture of the author WPExpert
              Originally Posted by Rappaport View Post

              I'm just saying that what you have had to say about this issue hasn't impacted or changed my stance at all, which is fine.
              No, unfortunately for you, its not "fine".

              Because what you are saying, in effect, is that everyone has to live by the simple rules of the money back guarantee that was offered to both you and to us, and which we ALL accepted, but that you do not have to.

              You can live by whatever rules YOU wish to apply.

              The reason that it is not "fine" for you is that you have not learned, apparently, from your mistake and as a result, have not got your money back and are now boring the pants of us about it here.

              But it is fine for us though, we followed the rules and "we" got our money back.

              Put it down to inexperience - yours.

              If it doesn't kill you, its a cheap lesson.
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              • Profile picture of the author Rappaport
                I'll decide what's fine for me, not you.
                Additionally, I most certainly am not saying what you said I am.
                Don't you put words in my mouth.
                If you don't have a problem paying for something that doesn't work, despite some arbitrary time frame, more power to you.
                I do have a problem with it, though.
                I also have enough experience to know that if something is "boring the pants of" me that I certainly wouldn't invest any more energy into it, like by posting a reply, or something.
                Thank you.

                Rappaport
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                • Profile picture of the author Universal_Soul
                  It's not about "If you don't have a problem paying for something that doesn't work", but it's about making informed decisions. What you're saying here reminds me of 10 years old kid frustrated, and trying to blame othere for his own mistakes. If that's 30 days trial and you're out of the time frame than you shouldn't even open your mouth.... All you're saying is you're not organized and irresponssible. Sorry to be rude - but I thought this forum is for grown up people, who a/ can read b/understand what they read, but I always can be mistaken. Keep creating your own rules and curse the world for not adjusting to them, because it's not your fault...

                  Alle the best

                  JJ
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    • Profile picture of the author davez
      Originally Posted by Rappaport View Post

      I was extremely dissatisfied with this product, its "services", and the promised made to sell it.
      I was not given a refund and I was not permitted to a charge back.
      I was outside of the 30 days to decide.
      It took me more than 30 days to fully scruntize the product and determine that it didn't work and that I didn't like it.
      But, I paid-in $1600.
      Because it took me 40 days to decide, does that justify keeping $1600 for something that didn't work?
      Apparently so.
      I was able to do everything I needed to do for free inside Google.
      GCD charged me a ton and didn't do 1/3 of what Google did for bupkis.
      There has got to be a remedy here.
      The whole notion of "Oh, well. It's been more than 30 days. It doesn't matter if it doesn't work, you lose your money." doesn't sit well with me in principle or in the wallet.
      Do a chargeback with your Credit Card company, I'm sure they know about all the refunds of this POS.. Why hand over your money to a thief...PERIOD!
      They give you 90 days to dispute any charge, just point them to this thread to support your fraud claims.

      Know your rights people put this types of guru's out of business..
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      • Profile picture of the author Universal_Soul
        the best way to put "this types of gurus out of business" is to not buy their product, and if you do claim your refund in time specified in "terms&conditions". If you'll ask for a refund within specified time, it really doesn't matter whether they'll move you to the 'upper management" or not. It happened to me before with GlazerKennedy - their system was down for a few days, and they didn't refund me at first. But when I send the a copy of original message, with the date within the period of time specified in the t&c, they promptly refunded money into my account. So I really don't know what all this moaning is about.
        It's an issue only if they will REFUSE to pay you the money back, despite the fact you've send you cancellation e-mail within the specified time frame. Other than that there is nothing to talk about.

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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Two Words: MARKET SAMURAI
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  • Profile picture of the author Bossman34
    I used GCD for 30 days (actually, probably closer to 40 because of the timing of my trial and his extended trial), but I found the tool pretty useful. I didn't use it to create direct linking campaigns, but to help me figure out which landing pages were most successful in different niches.

    I used GCD to thoroughly research 3 different niches and I was able to make 2 of them profitable within a couple weeks. I'm now in the process of scaling those campaigns with both PPC and SEO. Plus, I'm confident that I can make the third campaign profitable as well...just holding off on that one until I get the other 2 scaled up.

    I agree with most that the claims made by Chris were a little outrageous (like so many launches), but this is a tool that can save you time and help you find profitable campaigns. It definitely takes some guess work out of it. Of course, you don't NEED a product like GCD, but it's a very nice time saver.

    Just my opinion...
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  • Profile picture of the author kbs
    I got to use the software for about 7 days and thought it was really good. I was able to find some keywords that I would have never thought of by myself. I think part of the problem was that GCD was pushed so hard by Guru's that it got saturated especially if you were involved in direct linking. I"m sure this type of software had something to do w/ the latest Google Slap.
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  • Profile picture of the author BertTassoni
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    Whoaaa, what a long thread. I use GCD and yes it is good if you know how to use it but its not worth the monthly fee when so much of the same research is readily available from other sources. I also don't like the many varied shady offerings which have left so many paying so much more then the latest price offering.
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    • Profile picture of the author sahanull
      i am a GCD user. It is a good tool. But dont get fooled into copy and paste a campaign via direct linking and start to make tones of money. NO CHANCE!!!

      For a start with the campaign you try to clone have history and QS that you dont have.

      Best way to used it is by creating your own Landing page
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      • Profile picture of the author RobJones
        Originally Posted by sahanull View Post

        Best way to used it is by creating your own Landing page
        I agree, you just need to put in a minimum amount of thought and work in order to get great results.
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        • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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          Originally Posted by RobJones View Post

          I agree, you just need to put in a minimum amount of thought and work in order to get great results.
          Hey Mister 10 Posts...perhaps if you bothered to read ALL the posts you wouldn't be so quick to start slagging people off as "Noobs". There are plenty of veterans here who have used the thing and found it to be not what it's cracked up to be.
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          • Profile picture of the author RobJones
            Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

            perhaps if you bothered to read ALL the posts you wouldn't be so quick to start slagging people off as "Noobs". There are plenty of veterans here who have used the thing and found it to be not what it's cracked up to be.
            Yes, I actually have read a lot in this thread and THAT was what prompted me to post here (was originally searching for something else but stumbled upon this thread).
            And I wanted to point out that while those "veterans" of yours might know a thing or two in other areas of marketing they clearly don't have a clue about PPC marketing.
            That is clear as crystal to me because I've been using this tool for about 3 months now and knowing how to use and exploit such tools I find this particular tool to be pretty useful and well worth the monthly membership fee.
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  • Profile picture of the author maxitman
    Well guys, there is something I am going to do, I will not buy anything, I mean anything over the internet that requires a monthly fee. I think, really, it is bad business. Mostly because you end up paying a lot of money for crappy products and crappy marketers.
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  • Profile picture of the author RobJones
    Wow, I just found this thread here.
    Well, here is what I can say to the n00bs who don't know how to use a tool and complain:
    I use this tool for 2 or 3 months now (maybe 2.5 months or something)
    and in my opinion this is really a GREAT tool!

    However, I don't use the copy and paste style with direct linking.
    Don't know how well that would work. Actually, I wouldn't recommend using copy & paste with direct linking at all.

    This is an amazing tool for finding the right stuff.
    But finding the right stuff alone won't make you money IMO.
    You need to know how to use tools.
    If you don't know then you are a n00b and need to learn first.
    Just because you are a n00b and don't know how to use a tool doesn't mean the tool is poor.
    This tool is great for what it does. And is well worth the monthly membership fee.
    If you don't know how to make multiples of the monthly membership fee PER WEEK, then learn the ropes but don't blame the tool, N00B!
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Cheah
      Originally Posted by RobJones View Post

      Wow, I just found this thread here.
      Well, here is what I can say to the n00bs who don't know how to use a tool and complain:
      I use this tool for 2 or 3 months now (maybe 2.5 months or something)
      and in my opinion this is really a GREAT tool!

      However, I don't use the copy and paste style with direct linking.
      Don't know how well that would work. Actually, I wouldn't recommend using copy & paste with direct linking at all.

      This is an amazing tool for finding the right stuff.
      But finding the right stuff alone won't make you money IMO.
      You need to know how to use tools.
      If you don't know then you are a n00b and need to learn first.
      Just because you are a n00b and don't know how to use a tool doesn't mean the tool is poor.
      This tool is great for what it does. And is well worth the monthly membership fee.
      If you don't know how to make multiples of the monthly membership fee PER WEEK, then learn the ropes but don't blame the tool, N00B!
      Hi RobJones

      To a certain extent, I totally agree with you that GCD does has
      its merits. Like what you say,"learn the ropes but don't blame the
      tool... ". But to call others "noobs" is really a disrespect to others,
      as well as yourself.

      Remember, you want others to respect, or be nice to you? Learn
      to respect, or ne nice to others first. How others react to you is
      how you behave in the first place.

      All the members here are "WARRIORS", not "nxxxs". Let's move on
      from here.... You never know one day, these warriors can be your
      jv partners.



      Yours sincerely


      Richard Cheah
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      • Profile picture of the author brand-all
        Was about to take up Chris's offer of the FREE DVD and trial membership and then had one of those bright spark moments (rare indeed) and came to the trusty Warrior Forum to read the latest comments first.

        Wooah!! what a huge thread and what a mixed bag of input from everyone.

        Thank you to everyone who took the time to give their honest and intelligent opinions. This helped me a great deal in making my decision to keep my wallet in my pocket.



        No I haven't been around here for some time as I had no need to research any new products for a while. I've been busy taking action with what I have already bought & started.

        Just my two cents worth.
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  • Profile picture of the author RobJones
    P.S.
    The fact that I don't have a high post count here,
    only says that I don't use this forum much.
    (In general, I use forums very rarely because it's very easy to waste a lot of time in a forum)
    And because I have 10+ years experience in marketing I don't need the forum to learn stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author thezone
      Originally Posted by RobJones View Post

      And because I have 10+ years experience in marketing I don't need the forum to learn stuff.
      Just curious, but your profile says you're 24 (10+ years) would make you 7, I'm just curious what you were "marketing" (and how) 10+ years ago.
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      • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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        Originally Posted by thezone View Post

        Just curious, but your profile says you're 24 (10+ years) would make you 7, I'm just curious what you were "marketing" (and how) 10+ years ago.
        No. Ten years ago he would have been 14. So if he has 10+ years of experience in I.M. he started when he was 13 - let's say. Hence his
        And because I have 10+ years experience in marketing I don't need the forum to learn stuff.
        So we won't see him again - he doesn't need the forum to learn stuff. He knows it all. And we're all just "noobs".
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        • Profile picture of the author RobJones
          Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

          He knows it all.
          I didn't say that. I'm a student of marketing for more than 10 years now and I don't think I'll ever stop learning.
          What I said was: "I don't need the forum to learn stuff." No more, no less.
          By that I especially meant: I don't need to generate hundreds or thousands of posts in the forum in order to learn.
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      • Profile picture of the author RobJones
        Originally Posted by thezone View Post

        Just curious, but your profile says you're 24
        It always annoys me a lot when I see some forms that believe they can force me to put in my date of birth or even just the year.
        Thus I ALWAYS select some random date on such occasions. And it amazes me how carelessly people handle their private data these days.
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      • Profile picture of the author Instructor
        Originally Posted by thezone View Post

        Just curious, but your profile says you're 24 (10+ years) would make you 7, I'm just curious what you were "marketing" (and how) 10+ years ago.
        Now If I could just find that link for Microsoft Math
        j/k
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  • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
    The thing is mate, when it was launched it was aimed at newbies, also the big marketing hype behind it was the find profitable campaigns and clone them. Thats what pissed most people off !!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author James Pateman
    Hi LB,

    Good to read some independent perspective.

    regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author l23bc
    Google cash detective

    I wanted to get in on that so bad but something that actual day that i could not explain that stopped me form the brink of joing up(I think in the universal world of marketing it was all the guru emails on the list who emailed me about 200 times a day trying to get me to sign up via their link with bonuses) After it closed it doors i felt i may of missed out from some great softwere.

    So to recover i joined the warrior forum and read this post all about it so in honestly i have not missed much it was all hype as i have read the negititve and positives on the program and staying in a professional mind and non bashing intended, im glad i was further away form the high apples on the trees when this was released,
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  • Profile picture of the author kbs
    I'm debating on whether or not to use the 7 day free trial and get some keywords for article marketing. I just thiink that GCD 2.0 would be a great source for niche keywords since it tracks what people are already searching for. I messed around w/ it for Adwords and found some great keywords that I would have never found anyother way.
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  • I've used GCD 2.0 for niche keyword research...it's great for that. It's also very useful to identify good landing pages for ideas on what's converting in a niche. I'm surprised sometimes how crappy some of the landing pages are that have been up for so long...they must convert...at least I assume they do...maybe that's another drawback.

    GCD 2.0 is a useful tool but there are other free tools out there that will show you almost the same stuff without the $97 coming out of your pocket every month. It's definitely not the noob tool it was promoted to be as it doesn't take into account any of the other reasons a PPC ad comes up in first position.

    Often times, the person in #1 position paid far less to be there than the person in the #5 position. It's not just about how much you bid for the keyword. Copy-catting an assumed successful PPC campaign or using it for a direct linking strategy is a recipe for shrinking your bank account.

    That's my $.02.
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  • Profile picture of the author stgga
    Wow, there is a lot here. From my experience bert tassoni, metrocinty and checkmuldoon hit the nail on the head. Learning how to research and do direct linking will get you most of the way there. I passsed on it because there was so much negative press on it. You will always find articles & posts from advocates but when you look at the various sources it boiled down to convenience at a steep price....and way too much hyperbole. IMO
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  • Profile picture of the author kimperino1985
    Originally Posted by Amfire View Post

    Warriors,

    Anyone has been part of Beta testing Google Cash Detective? When is it out in the market? Reviews?

    Thanks,
    Google Cash Detective doesn't look like a scam. It has some nice cool features of spying on other people profitable adwords campaign. It should cost hundreds if not thousands for this spying tool. Chris Carpenter is legit, he is also known as the pioneer of direct linking in adwords.
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  • Profile picture of the author thomashoi
    Direct linking may give you some short term income, but in the long run, nobody
    can guarantee if this will still work.

    I find that building your entire business on direct linking is dangerous because
    once this method off traffic generation is gone, your entire business is toast...

    It is still the best way to have a squeeze page to build a list....

    Your list will ensure you will have a sound business model.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wuuki
      Hi,

      just a quick reply to all of these "I am glad I haven't tried it" posts.

      I am a beta tester with GCD since day one and although it's true that this tool is not the holy cow allowing you to copy/paste campaign, it can give you great value for money when using it for the right type of research.

      You can use it for all type of marketing, media buys, content, paid, free, you name it.

      I wouldn't recommend it to everyone BUT to find out YOU have to TEST it yourself.
      The forum can give you an idea but shouldn't decide instead of you.

      Take care,

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  • Profile picture of the author lloydy14
    Hi guys

    Can anyone help me out please.

    I gained access to the GCD through joining ppC 3.0. The GC4 home study videos came as a bonus, these were incomplete at the time, they have since been updated but as far as I can see there are still two videos missing from the complete advertised course.

    I also gained access to the GCD though not the automater, I have tried using the detective and the keyword search is working, but when I try a URL wildcard search it keeps coming back as 0 results found or your session has expired.

    I have submitted three support tickets to which I have not received any replies.

    Can anyone shed any light on this for me please, is there a more direct way to contact Chris and his team other than the support system which does not seem to work or I am just being blatantly ignored.

    I cannot add to the debate on the value of the system unless I can use the system so i'm hoping one of my fellow warriors can help me out.

    Kind regards.

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author JustMint
    Wow - I'm just so glad I found this thread, and in turn so glad I've joined Warrior Forum.

    Thanks for everyone's intelligent feedback - this new guy just saved himself a disaster he didn't need!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Andersson
      After 1 year of GCD and GCA membership (and a campaign cloning success rate of around 30%), I decided I had had enough and decided to opt out. I fired off two support tickets to GCD Support, one asking to refund my GCD payment for June and cancel my subscription, and another to refund my June GCA payment and cancel that subscription also. I also mentioned that if I did not receive the refunds then I would initiate a chargeback from both of my credit cards (slightly underhanded threat there!).

      Needless to say, my membership was 'deactivated' within 10 minutes of sending my support tickets! I was blown away! All of a sudden I had no access to the Detective, no access to the videos or Automator... and all the links to the member options, forum and upgrades were gone. Funny thing is, I can still log in to my account and my credit card details, personal info and account details are still there. I also have two links to reactivate my membership if I so desire to, at some point in the future. Funny thing is... they also cancelled my free Clickbank Detective membership! LOL!

      So I created another Clickbank Detective membership because I find it to be a very useful tool for researching CPA offers and finding out the names of all the clickbank affiliates promoting the products. I also find I can do the same sort of spying and competitive intelligence research using tools such as Market Samurai, Keyword Elite, Affiliate Elite, Traffic Travis and Affiliate Prophet Pro. All other research tools I use are in the form of SEO and PPC Firefox addons.

      BTW... the Adwords Time Machine in Keyword Elite 2.0 is superior in many ways to GCD and is much easier to understand and visually identify. It too allows you to find the consistently successful campaigns and see their ad-copy, keywords, ad-changes, display and destination URL, affiliate links, etc. It's a pay-once, use-forever tool and much better value than a $97 per month membership. Oh, and I HIGHLY RECOMMEND to purchase the full, complete Affiliate Prophet keyword tracking tool (including all upsells and upgrades). It is worth every penny you spend on it and it is simply one of the most AMAZING keyword tools I have come across. Direct-linking in Adwords would not be profitable nor sustainable without using a tool like it!

      And that is saying a lot.
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      • Profile picture of the author jimfurr
        Originally Posted by Alex Andersson View Post

        After 1 year of GCD and GCA membership (and a campaign cloning success rate of around 30%), I decided I had had enough and decided to opt out.
        I would think a 30% success rate would make GCD a worthwhile tool!

        1 in 3 (approx.) I think I could make a living on that!

        Please respond, what am I missing?

        Jim Furr ><>
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        • Profile picture of the author psresearch
          Originally Posted by jimfurr View Post

          I would think a 30% success rate would make GCD a worthwhile tool!

          1 in 3 (approx.) I think I could make a living on that!

          Please respond, what am I missing?

          Jim Furr ><>
          You're right. If he had a 30% success rate and was still losing money then it sounds like he wasn't tracking, pruning, and scaling very well.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndreVas
    Looks like GCD is abandoned? Been in beta 3 for ages that's slow, support not answering questions and forum down.

    Also, pretty much useless because one also can't sort results.

    Anyone know more about GCD status?

    Thanks.
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