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9 years ago

I 2nd that really. my answers tend to look like spam on this forum with me having to repeat what I have just commented in a previous post to someone else asking the same how to make xyz amount of money online

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Mark Singletary

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Internet Trillionaire

I 2nd that really. my answers tend to look like spam on this forum with me having to repeat what I have just commented in a previous post to someone else asking the same how to make xyz amount of money online

It's not looking like spam only - it is spam when you are dropping links to your books and courses outside your sig.

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ChrisBa

9 years ago

Can we maybe have this in a sticky post? Maybe make the title a little nicer, but with the same info on how to easily find answers

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The Niche Man 9 years ago
This is a issue/complaint that comes up almost as much as the questions you've posted, and it's always a welcome thread to a lot of regulars here, including me.

Why people don't use the search feature more has always been a question mark to me. After-all, that's one of the most valuable tools of most internet marketers. Although you must admit, the search feature on this site isn't exactly a technical marvel that instills confidence.

So, I came up with the following conclusions why the same questions are asked over and over again by people.
- They really are lazy like you said.
- They've researched and want to get the most current answers.
- They searched already, but they ask now thinking the answers may have changed. (Sometimes they do).
- They want to increase their post count.
- They want to expose their signature.
Or all of the above.

Ironically, if you notice, most of the 'routine' questions asked over and over again, tend to get the highest participation too. So, the ones who answer the same questions maybe part blame to some extent.

Something to consider.
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- ksmusselman 9 years ago
  
  They are among us.
  
  I've been a member at a WAH forum for a couple more years than I've been here, and this same topic comes up a lot in different sections over there too.
  
  How do I start? Where do I look? Have you heard about this yet? I need help!
  
  It's like they just can't comprehend the Search function.
  
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salegurus

9 years ago

Originally Posted by ChrisBa

Can we maybe have this in a sticky post? Maybe make the title a little nicer, but with the same info on how to easily find answers

You could have it as a bright flashing neon banner that stretches the length of your monitor and it still wont help... Personally i think most of those who post stuff that been done to death don't actually care about keeping the forum clean and relevant...

Originally Posted by The Niche Man

Ironically, if you notice, most of the 'routine' questions asked over and over again, tend to get the highest participation too. So, the ones who answer the same questions maybe part blame to some extent.

Something to consider.

100% correct, iv'e never understood why/how someone (Old or New member) could answer the same questions day in and day out. Im sure a few do it out of generosity but i'm just as sure that many do it for "other" reasons...

Originally Posted by ksmusselman

It's like they just can't comprehend the Search function.

Two things:
1)They can't comprehend the search function...
2)Even though anyone who lands on the WF home page can clearly see that there are multiple forums these clowns insist on only posting on the Main Forum...

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discrat

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeff Lenney

Holy Crap Guys

Use the SEARCH feature before you ask one of the following questions that's asked multiple times per WEEK:

What would you do with $200?
How would you make $100 a day fast?
How would you make $500 a day?
How would you make $100k per year?
Etc...

It's ALL in here already, and every-time the answer is the SAME:

It's going to take HARD WORK. You can't simply push a button and send tons of magical traffic to your websites/youtube channel that will make you an instant internet gazillionaire.

You need to understand that it's going to take work to succeed in this business, and YES it's a business. It takes money, hard work, dedication.

You're going to fail, you're going to feel like giving up - but STICK WITH IT and quit buying every other WSO that promises you $500 over night "done for you".

Find ONE method and stick with it, want to know what works well?

ONE of the following:

SEO (Search Engine Optimization)
Make Money Blogging - you write about topics people in your NICHE (yes, stick to one) are searching for and monetize with adwords, affiliate products, etc
Build a List: Put together a sqeeze page, offer people in your potential list a freebee (write it yourself or outsource it) that they can't refuse and give it to them for FREE! Do NOT use a non informative Title such as "The Secrets to Weight Loss" - they can google that and it's not interesting. However, something like "How I lose 7 lbs in 7 days WITHOUT Dieting" - THAT'LL get people signing up like crazy.
1. Drive Traffic with Solo Ads, Facebook Marketing, or Google OR bing/yahoo PPC

Combine all 3 of those things together and you'll be unstoppable, just remember it takes WORK and you're not going to get there overnight.

</rant>

Thanks Jeff.

And yes I so appreciate what you did with No Sig.

In a way it is so sad, though !

It seems like anymore even the most credible Warrior Members get 'assaulted' and accused of Sig Spam by other members when starting a new thread

It has really gotten out of hand

I have made a decision when I see a Thread that is truly worthy started by a altruistic member who has really contributed to the Community and then other members start this kind of harassment they can be rest assured I will not be quiet about it anymore.

Like I said enough is enough !!

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allenshayzar

9 years ago

internet is all about getting into it first....and knowing that there is money in it.....who would have thought that a guy like "pewdiepie" and the father of "Hulyan and Maya" in youtube would earn millions. Based on my opinion, they did it at the start by just simply having fun with it. That's maybe their passion as well. so for everybody out there...just do the things that you like best...don't think about the money...it will just demotivate you....doing what you love will never ever make you tired or get lazy....

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Jeff Lenney

9 years ago

Originally Posted by allenshayzar

internet is all about getting into it first....and knowing that there is money in it.....who would have thought that a guy like "pewdiepie" and the father of "Hulyan and Maya" in youtube would earn millions. Based on my opinion, they did it at the start by just simply having fun with it. That's maybe their passion as well. so for everybody out there...just do the things that you like best...don't think about the money...it will just demotivate you....doing what you love will never ever make you tired or get lazy....

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curiozities

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeff Lenney

Holy Crap Guys

Use the SEARCH feature before you ask one of the following questions that's asked multiple times per WEEK:

What would you do with $200?
How would you make $100 a day fast?
How would you make $500 a day?
How would you make $100k per year?
Etc...

It's ALL in here already, and every-time the answer is the SAME:

It's going to take HARD WORK. You can't simply push a button and send tons of magical traffic to your websites/youtube channel that will make you an instant internet gazillionaire.

You need to understand that it's going to take work to succeed in this business, and YES it's a business. It takes money, hard work, dedication.

You're going to fail, you're going to feel like giving up - but STICK WITH IT and quit buying every other WSO that promises you $500 over night "done for you".

Find ONE method and stick with it, want to know what works well?

ONE of the following:

SEO (Search Engine Optimization)
Make Money Blogging - you write about topics people in your NICHE (yes, stick to one) are searching for and monetize with adwords, affiliate products, etc
Build a List: Put together a sqeeze page, offer people in your potential list a freebee (write it yourself or outsource it) that they can't refuse and give it to them for FREE! Do NOT use a non informative Title such as "The Secrets to Weight Loss" - they can google that and it's not interesting. However, something like "How I lose 7 lbs in 7 days WITHOUT Dieting" - THAT'LL get people signing up like crazy.
1. Drive Traffic with Solo Ads, Facebook Marketing, or Google OR bing/yahoo PPC

Combine all 3 of those things together and you'll be unstoppable, just remember it takes WORK and you're not going to get there overnight.

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1-This should be post of the year, if not decade.

2-Flesh it out a bit, turn into an ebook and make a million overnight!

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Jeff Lenney 9 years ago

Originally Posted by curiozities

1-This should be post of the year, if not decade.

2-Flesh it out a bit, turn into an ebook and make a million overnight!

LOL thanks man, I"ve got a few other posts similar to this that blew up rather big - been a few months though so I figured i'd drop some common sense and a few jewels haha
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Keith Everett

9 years ago

It's amazing how people are willing to put in 40/50hrs a week at a job they probably can't stand, fight traffic both ways and then come home and work for an hour on the Internet and expect results... This is a business and should be treated as such... You shouldn't be asking what would you do with $100, $200 etc, you should be asking yourself "What do I need to do to make my business successful?"...

Great post BTW... I've missed this place, I think I'll come back more...

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ryanbiddulph

9 years ago

Hi Jeff,

Great points.

I'd add, it takes mental work too. Some with a poverty/failure consciousness feel hard work means posting ads on forums for 14 hours a day.

That's dumb work, failing work. Because they think like failures, they act like failures.

Smart, intelligent, persistent work brings success.

Smart, intelligent work is borne of a success conscious mindset, and you gotta work on your mental tools to get that mindset.

Also, keep on creating and connecting. I prefer blogging and list building as my tools of choice, so I create plenty of in depth blog posts along with plenty of strong bonds with niche leaders to prosper.

Create.

Connect.

Keep working on that mindset through meditation and visualization, and through observation.

In time you'll kill it online, in a good way

Smart post!

Signing off from Bali.

Ryan

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Afiqfikri Daud

9 years ago

Maybe people that create those same thread needs specific advice for his/her current situation. Just saying..

So I just wondering, how warriorforum can fix this?

Maybe they can implement new code or something that show up relevant threads (under the title bar) once people type words in the new thread title.

Let say this lazy guys type "how to make..", then under the title bar, shows up "how to make money fast"/"how to make $200 per day" etc etc etc. (old relevant thread links) - this can give them option whether to read the old threads or to ignore it. Some will, and some don't, but at least we can reduce the amount of same thread post..

This type of idea I get from Fiverr support/contact us. Where once you type in, relevant FAQ links will appear below it, which is nice..

If warriorforum can pull this off, it would be great for all the community, well at least Jeff will be happy.

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Kay King 9 years ago

This type of idea I get from Fiverr

I think we have more than enough "Fiverr mentality" around here as it is.
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agmccall

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeff Lenney

Holy Crap Guys

Use the SEARCH feature before you ask one of the following questions that's asked multiple times per WEEK:

What would you do with $200?
How would you make $100 a day fast?
How would you make $500 a day?
How would you make $100k per year?
Etc...

It's ALL in here already, and every-time the answer is the SAME:

What irks me most about these type of posts is that the OP almost never participates in the thread after the question is asked. Or, the 3 post newbie gurus chime in with "the money is in the list" or "build your list today" .

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agmccall

9 years ago

One other thing, Since joining the warrior forum I have had 3 infractions. All three infractions have come from my witty responses to these type of posts, so I now try to stay away from them

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dedy

9 years ago

I think the question is not HOW but mostly is about YOU. That's what I think for over 5 years in Internet marketing.

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MarksWineClub

9 years ago

Oh if we're giving advice......WRITE! Write in your own space, write in other people's space. Too often I see people who are too interested in the perfect blog, or the perfect place to guest post.....instead of simply writing and getting started.

Search engine's increasingly reward positive action, so take it!

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SouthSpawn

Banned 9 years ago

Very good post.

I think this happens because the name should be changed from

"Internet Marketing"

to

"Internet Business"

I think a lot of new people to the tech/internet world.
They see words like "Internet Marketing" and it might give the impression of
"Hey, if I just learn these few task of internet marketing. I will be rich."

When you say "Internet Business". That sounds more involved.

Just my two cents here.

Mark

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Brent Stangel

9 years ago

What would you do with $200?
How would you make $100 a day fast?
How would you make $500 a day?
How would you make $100k per year?
Etc...

Or more likely...

What would you do with 200$?
How would you make 100$ a day fast?
How would you make 500$ a day?
How would you make 100K$ per year?
Etc...

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chillheart

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Brent Stangel

Or more likely...

What would you do with 200$?
How would you make 100$ a day fast?
How would you make 500$ a day?
How would you make 100K$ per year?
Etc...

Grrrr who started that crap where they put the $ AFTER the number? It ain't right, man. It ain't right.

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Brent Stangel 9 years ago

Originally Posted by chillheart

Grrrr who started that crap where they put the $ AFTER the number? It ain't right, man. It ain't right.

They simply aren't smart enough to bother getting it right.

So, how much do you think someone will make offering products for 12$ only?
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Action Man

9 years ago

So,

Is it being suggested here that the WSO's that say:

"How to make $50,000 in one month on autopilot" are not entirely accurate?

gees..

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Phil Essex

9 years ago

Lol. This whole thread was funny !

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Daniel Evans 9 years ago

The forum wouldn't have half the visitors that it does if it weren't for those threads.

Monotonous repetition has its value.
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Jeff Lenney

9 years ago

Forgive me guys, but I wanted to bump this one as it's REALLY relevant now.

Notice: nothing in my signature, not trying to get more traffic - just trying to help this forum since the mods and new owners obviously don't.